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to be included under your insurance plan if they want it but as you know they know that they're on to something and they are letting go specially republican presidential candidate rick santorum so while he was on the campaign trail in texas last night he didn't say that obama's waging a war against religious americans but he didn't just say the president is violating your first met right now he took it like twenty steps further. taking a faith and. why. why. are you marginalized. in america when you remove the color. god given rights what is left is a government that will tell you who you are what you do and when you do. what's in france. became the getting. way gentlemen we want way from home but. if we do. and follow the path of president obama and his own
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hostility to faith in america. and we are headed down that route. wait what obama's leading religious people to the guillotine and we did this is a joke i am genuinely really confused about how this entire situation has gotten so out of hand what century are we in this is birth control they act like obama is making the catholic priest perform abortions with their bare hands during mass now we haven't really touched on this issue during the show before because i thought that this whole controversy of this fake controversy which is what it is was absurd i wake up every morning thinking no there's no way that everyone in the media is actually still talking about this non issue but every day i improve draw die especially love the chorus of male politicians and pundits weighing in with their righteous indignation standing up for the first amendment newsflash nobody is forcing anyone to do anything this is an option an option that would be offered to women so thanks for your input gentlemen but why don't you just sit this one out so
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let's all just take a step back to be honest with ourselves this isn't an issue about religious freedom or the first amendment it's an issue that just plays well with g.o.p. voters which i can attest to from my experience of the back today so everybody in the media let's stop playing along i know that most of the media loves a good culture war but this isn't even a culture war birth control stop being controversial decades ago so here on my show the g.o.p. gets tonight's bull's-eye ward for turning a basic women's health initiative into a fake attack on your first amendment rights. our guys it's time for a happy hour joining me this evening r t producer jenny churchill and alex sites all assistant editor of think progress org hey guys thanks for joining me. let's first talk about somebody is f.b.i.
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and this is always there like kind of exciting part after someone passes away it's like what is the f.b.i. have written up on them. come on the lad i mean yes a it's a good thing anyone guided says that but you know he's going to get to see what their dirt is anyway let's check out. the f.b.i. has just released a one hundred ninety page file on the late apple c.e.o. steve jobs this is a portion of it it's focused on a background check the interviews with jobs and others in march and april of ninety ninety one when jobs being considered for a presidential appointment by president george h.w. bush. so some of the things in jobs file use a lot of drugs l.s.d. parents he was also manipulative manipulative excuse me several individuals question mr jobs honesty saying that he will trust the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals and apparently also abandon his baby mama i just i'm really confused i thought all of this was already available knowledge i did not
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feel as though i learned anything from the f.b.i. which really makes me question how good of a job they're doing why don't they like you when i'm no dirt where's the dirt the observation i agree that i was not that surprised by the contents but it's one hundred ninety one pages i thought it was a very in-depth they talk to a ton of people which makes me think every other government official has had some kind of similar background check done on them right so can you imagine what's in like dick cheney's f.b.i. file why that's what i mean different though because you know jobs and even he was pretty private is still more of a public persona than most actual government officials at this point right like i think that we know more about jobs and his drug use in the past because he's part of like the tech crowd like nobody cares nobody is going to judge you for it because he doesn't go out and preach certain. solace a certain values or certain policies but. good point point. ok.
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i don't know how to use this clip right now new hampshire new hampshire has been doing some weird stuff lately they try to pass legislation that said that you don't follow school curriculums anymore they try to pass legislation that all laws should be based on the magna carta not the constitution but the magna carta and now they want to take a hit your lunch break. so barely if this is what they want workers to do from now on is to have to ask for a lunch break because they want to basically ban. businesses from having to give. their employees a lunch break or take a break they claim that everybody already gets one and that if the business were to not try to give them one that people would take to social media and it would make the company feel so bad that they change their policy why isn't that the policy on everything else then why do we have any rules for anything because it's now that we
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always lead out right and so when the world works then wow we don't need rules at all murder murder. you know no more murders but i feel like this is like every state or a lot of states are in this like war to outraise each other you know arizona started off strong with the immigration law then florida wanted to drug test all their welfare recipients but new hampshire has really been making a come from behind dark horse race here but the magna carta stuff they've got this lunch bill thing keep your eye on and i'm sure it just gave us an idea i think you have to start making. some kind of a racing graphic because you're through i have to say though when you're right when i used to work hour early i always had an issue i was forced to take a certain amount of break and if i didn't want to eat lunch for half an hour i was frustrated that i'd go sit somewhere for ten i mean it is true it didn't happen i don't think i think the slots ridiculous but i mean i was forced to take a break i want to tell you hey at least you got a break. i worked too hard. let's talk about the story that we did not get to
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yesterday which basically you know if you live in iceland then your chances of dating somebody that you might be related to i guess increase right at the small island the only population of three hundred thousand people and so now there's a new website there that basically you can you can look up the geological data on the inhabitants and see with your icelandic id number make sure that your potential love interest is not actually related to you. i find this to be actually the strangest thing ever because i don't know here in america and all fifty states you're allowed to marry your second cousin it is completely illegal have you ever known someone who was like oh my gosh that person was my first cousin i didn't know ever ever i that's not so much about whether it's allowed or not it's like do you want to find out that the person you're dating also is not island is so small and
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there's only three hundred thousand people like how hard is it really to know your family you never know there to be some shady family secrets. like seems way overkill and like raises some serious civil liberties issues i mean there's this database with everybody and anybody can look into it yeah but on the other hand from a capitalist point of view i think they're missing out on a huge revenue opportunity matchmaking i mean if there's like five people on the island who aren't related to you which is what it sounds like they should just match up and what if you could see who was searching for you you know oh that person wanted to check if there were no doubt be able. to see those last three here too basically this is happening in an l.a. county and it's like. pro football or frisbee at an l.a. county beach and you could be fined one thousand dollars the county board of supervisors today raised fines for illegal beach activity yes it is against the law to throw footballs or freeze these. what country do we live in jenny what does that
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say about your. freedom you know but i mean seriously is actually insane i think this is clearly an attempt by the volleyball lobbying association to get a you know. novel idea on it yet because i'm sorry i'm a little confused on how a frisbee is more abusive than a volleyball can someone explain that to me it's volleyballs or beats that people do whatever they want i love that even the local news anchor is like having trouble believing it as she's. saying it but the crazy thing of this was it was already law and now they're just increasing the fine he has got to wrap it up virtually thanks for joining us tonight that's it for nicer thanks for tuning and they can come back to morrow journalist susie cagle is going to bat out of talk about activism and artists of occupy oakland i mean time to follow us on line and coming up next in the.
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else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. wealthy british style sun it's a time to write a little. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report. on
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jobs are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. it seems like the american public is embrace of same sex marriage or more frequently. opponents are still standing their ground what's at the heart of their strong opposition also president obama has faced an unprecedented about personal attacks slander a list of in office or is it all coming from and how is it undermining his presidency and our democracy and president obama turned. both sides of the al this week with his controversial decision regarding birth control and employment what
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was the rationale behind his decision how will the backlash continue to play out the fact that twenty five campaign. getting this nation took another major step toward equal rights for gays and lesbians by wednesday the washington state house approved gay marriage legislation one week after the states senate approved similar legislation washington governor christine gregoire is expected to sign the legislation into law making her state the seventh in the nation to give same sex couples the same rights as straight couples and earlier this week a california court struck down that state's proposition eight ban on gay marriage as being a violation of the california constitution to one while ruling of the u.s. ninth circuit court of appeals judge stephen ryan our vote for the majority proposition eight serves no purpose and has no effect other than to lessen the status and dignity of gays and lesbians in california and to officially reclassify
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their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite sex couples so the movement for equal to achieve equal rights for gays and lesbians is taking off but not everybody is on board joining me now is maggie gallagher is the co-founder of the national organization for marriage one of the leading groups the nation working to ensure a marriage remains exclusively between a man and a woman in those remaining states that don't yet recognize gay marriage you're welcome thank you we're on the cusp touche and does it specifically say that the right to marry is what is even there much less unique to a man and a woman well it doesn't say there's any right to marry that was a supreme court interpretation that some things are fundamental i mean even prior to the constitution and the supreme court has always interpreted that not to say if you have a close personal intimate relationship you have a right to call that a marriage but that. the union of male and female is so fundamental to society that
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that constitutes a fundamental right so there is no as in biblical historical you mean you want me to speak for the supreme court or for myself for talking to you well you asked me where in the constitution the right to marry comes from and that's what the supreme court has said about it it's really rooted in the idea that it's foundational to civilization and that it's necessary right which is why i think the majority of courts have found that there is no constitutional right to gay marriage either under the federal or the state constitution polls show that increasing numbers of americans are for merging quality don't you think you represent a fringe rather than a mainstream i mean the subtle or so you really want to say reading arguments back in the well those are two questions so let me go to the popularity first thirty one out of thirty one times the american people have had a chance to vote in the last decade including in is recently as two thousand and nine in maine they voted to say no we don't believe that gay marriage is
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a right we think marriage is the union of husband and wife for a reason these are the only unions that make new life and connect children in love to their mother and father so you think people should be able to do very well i think that the union of a man and a woman whether or not a child results every one of those unions protext children by preventing children from being born in unmarried households and i was an unwed mother for ten years so i know a lot about the special challenges children face under those circumstances. from a lot of rapes a woman issue i was pregnant. right when i get to finish the question you asked before you launch a new question well if you don't filibuster why i'm not trying to filibuster you i'm trying to answer you so you're asking questions then you asked about the message a nation an allergy i just think that's fundamentally comparing apples and oranges are bringing together male and female is not like triangles that you were just laying out a moment ago where the. you know thirty want to thank you said the times people
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have voted to say marriage is between a man and a woman because you asked me if the american people are for it or not and i said well when they go to the ballot box and i think they're not and you would agree then that at a time of the american people are in favor of miseducation laws and slavery well i think of that they want to make it right i think the fourteenth amendment i think marriage is right because it's good and you know trying to keep. interracial couples from marrying is about keeping to race a separate so that one race can oppress the other and that was bad but bringing together male and female so children have mothers and fathers is good to so that we that's the fundamental problem but frankly the the other problem is that the fourteenth amendment was designed to prevent racial classifications right so the bands and the supreme court struck down well in plessy versus ferguson but the supreme court struck down interracial marriage bans because they say the fourteenth amendment is designed to prevent racial classifications it clearly protects race i'm sorry it took one hundred fifty years to do it. yet and i hope it won't take
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one hundred fifty years to overturn roe v wade well ok some time over the war is wrong there's no question about that one of the things i find i've read a fair amount of your work and one of the things that i find most troubling about it is that. there are there are people in this country who know that by the time they were six or seven years old their attraction was toward the same gender and the opposite they there's no doubt their mind that they're gay and they're not going to change and i'm assuming you acknowledge that i certainly know there are people who believe that and i don't i'm not contesting and i don't have any firsthand basis to contest that the work that you're doing is causing for many of those people considerable pain and misery in their lives the harder you reconcile that with your your notion of yourself you know you talked about your experiences single mother you seem like a compassionate person it's seems to me like a disconnect. well i guess when people fundamentally disagree about what's good for the country i certainly have always tried to make my arguments in ways that are
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respectful of people who disagree but if you come to me and say well the fact that you think marriage matters because children need a mom and dad is deeply painful to me all i can say is i'm sorry that's all i am what you're thinking i'm talking about your activism well i'm acting on it because i think it's really important right so so when people say well that's causing me a lot of pain all i can say is i'm really sorry that's not my intention but i think america is a country where we have to go out and fight for what we think is right and good and we have to do so in a way that i think demonstrates respects to others and that's certainly what i've tried to do with the ring my eight years in the gay marriage fight even even during a time when the most at risk population for suicide or and i was gay teens i don't believe i actually took the trouble to look at whether gay marriage reduces teen gay teen suicide rates and i don't think that's going to turn out. matter of gay marriage and that's about it of acceptance. but i'm fighting about marriage i'm not fighting to make gay teens not feel accepted i think that there are many
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relationships that are valuable and loving they're not all marriages that whenever i racial got married biracial people dating certainly didn't feel. do you feel like the millions of americans who go out there and vote and organize and fight for the idea that marriage need means a husband and wife are responsible for gay teen suicide or not because you're yes i doubt you do see i think that that's not true and i think you know it's not all but i think some small percentage of yeah yeah i really don't think that gay marriage is going have a big impact on gay teen suicide and i also think that it's a ten there's a tendency when we're talking about a real social problem like teen suicide for the adults to just drag and whatever else they're fighting for anyway and i really don't think that's our principal concern that the answer should be we should stigmatize people who think marriage is the you know husband and wife. the constitution you mentioned the supreme court the constitution and. the. opponents of gay marriage. it's against
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religion as a reason a lot of people do it's not usually the way i talk about it but ok well next i do have a religion i'm roman catholic i can if you want well i'm not part of that but i'm just saying you know the idea that children need a mom and a dad christmas is really the abraham marriage a sister and a kid with his he has a right to do that. that's my question i mean you know david had multiple wives his son was well then what is the question you asked me if i believe in sister marriage because abraham didn't know it well you know if it's biblical it's i think i think you'd probably have to come some debate that was someone who had only a biblical foundation for their view i agree ok and clearly you're not just taking that point. don't you think that well actually i think we're pretty much out of time here. very much appreciate your coming by having a rational conversation i appreciate your inviting me really thank you thank you so much. the history of our nations want to bring more and more americans into the
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fold giving them equal rights even though we've slid backwards at times the direction of bringing equal rights to everyone is always prevail maybe we should look toward the bible after all what makes a moral and healthy marriage a lot mrs betty bowers my heroine and america's best christian explain the rest. beginning of time say six thousand years ago god created one man and one woman they had two children both had penises he might inquisitively asked lord if adam and eve only had boys but where did the grandchildren come from trust me you're not going to like is reply. bible based marriage is between one man one woman the disinterested uses after he's killed it's a league rather a family that slays and lays together stays together to story it brought him the father of three faiths to rubbish married his sister as if that wasn't sorted enough slutty sister sarah invited abraham to have sex with her mate someone named hagar poling lee butch name
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a bible based marriage is between one man and his sister and the hell did his me lord to help doing that hell. i don't even speak to my what's the lord's favorite would punish men who rapes an unmarried virgin anyone carrying two years of bible based marriages between one woman and the rapist. remember how god turned lot's wife into your so so bible based marriage can sometimes be between one man and could two condiment bono pity. so what do you do if you run out of close relatives or servants to marry well the rather crafty lord has a fabulous tip just drive over to the nearest town and murder everyone who either has a penis or a semen then just round up all the virgins who are left of course you don't need to take a big truck if you try this and say america a bible based marriage is between one man and gallies kidnapping rape right after brother father mother and slightly sister slaughtered. remember in the bible it's not rape if the man says i do so let's recap the lord's idea of the perfect
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marriage it is between one man and his sister and her rapist getting condiment gallies kidnapped and raped two more women an adulterer and a pack of rape tours seven hundred wives three hundred and then hell and who knows murder is murder either. but it is not between one man and another man because well that would be. coming up after the break the obama presidency has been marked by personal attacks law is an amount of misinformation or what is behind all this vitriolic rhetoric.
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a year shindig with conservative elites cozy up to each other and denounce the evil liberals i've done my radio show live from c pac every year for the past five it's amazing to see the parade true believers to con men to outright shills for big polluting industries this year being an election year see pac has one overriding theme bash president obama and perpetuate all the lies of this sort information they can about it here's an example. how does a nation that's blessed by an extraordinary supply of american exceptionalism submit inch by creeping inch to the totalitarian state this descending upon us how do we submit to something like all bamma care we credit our brave troops for winning the war in iraq and a very tremendous cost but the president recently chelas intentionally to lose the peace after a decade of effort to defeat global jihad obama for the sake of his political
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reelection has chosen to hand out a rock to the arrangements only and. no one knows more about these personal attacks on president obama that bill press who quite literally just wrote the book on. bill is the author is the host of the bill presho from six to nine am eastern time on radio stations all across the nation he's all for the author of six books including his newest the obama hate machine the lies distortions and personal attacks on the president and who is behind them bill welcome tom it's so good to see you this meeting is like the meeting of the obama hate machine it is. they are all there or they will be in the next three to today in the next two days they're all going to line up and they're all going to go over the top the way steve king always does write a totalitarian regime under president obama no it's totally bizarre i was
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you know i've been there every year floods radio row and then in two thousand and eight i was there and sitting next to me i think was sean hannity and dick cheney was on the show and there are a couple of cameras and talking on the radio and i said dick cheney sitting right next to whom what or what i should do and people in my script were just like screaming at me in giant letters and look behind you and i turned around there's a secret service guy woods and his gun right there. anyway whatever you do don't go quail hunting with me here so there but there's an example so sean hannity who said the other night just couple of nights ago that if barack obama had his way osama bin laden would still be alive and he said he has the tape to prove it or else it's just total nonsense i mean who went after those who gave the directions who gave the orders to get them who approved the plan it was brought obama's and twice said i don't think so much about the.
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