well you know as the powers that be it's created the euro zone was germany germany and france in the names of francois mitterrand and also. chancellor kohl knew that the project was incomplete and they expected that those who would full of them will complete the project but what do instead we saw is the development of tremendous imbalances between beat into euro zone countries it is not possible to expect the germany will always have a surplus unless other companies such as greece and portugal have deficits ok and therefore this is how we created the enemy growth path through the region being good you mean here i mean people i mean we just heard that other countries would follow that lead it would follow the political union thing that people didn't vote for that i find that inherently undemocratic and that giving people a choice ok i mean what happens on the need when the next guy really comes in in

greece of they're going to vote against the the this austerity package price they are red of course they are and not only in greece we are already here as of this and france this is far from the leading member of the opposition who looks likely to win the next presidential race and france is already saying why do we have to have this us varity and i think this is the key you can see the leaders signing up for it because the exchange is clear germany you give me the cash to survive given my debt problem i'll give you my sovereignty but will the public actually comply will they agreed to accept the pain of this austerity and will they agree it is to ignore it but most important sovereign aspect which is your best school your college it to technocrats in brussels that are not answerable to your population through a ballot box so i think that although there are many europeans who would like to see a united states. europe there are many who would not and this question is what did

we all sign up for the issue today is that the debt burden is so severe that people will sell their sovereignty for cash right now but will they actually deliver what germany is expecting and i fear that we're going to have a meltdown we had a breakdown because even though they promised they're not going to deliver. also in london i mean i've used it where is the political will right here because it seems to me and it was absolutely right you know merkel just wants to win the next election it's not a cozy is praying he's going to get in and then we'll worry about it then i mean it's kicking the can down the road because keep kicking it down because the politicians have no political will they have no. fortitude to really deal with this issue because again that at the end of the day it is bailing out banks the bankers get paid everybody else gets screwed. well the issue goes back to what we started our discussion on which is the political will and it's interesting the latest

couple of comments because we need to bear in mind that currently greece and spain and italy story they they have governments that are not necessarily democratically elect they're exactly crowd raise her prime minister they both have prime ministers who were technically imposed by germany and france and i'm not sure that if we were having an election tomorrow the result will be that you know the greeks would like we said what are the most as a prime minister and the values would like my own money as a prime minister you might have a very different result there and it looks like there is a trend developing even in some other southern european countries like spain and portugal we've seen the results of the elections in spain that's completely changed what was happening in the prime minister role so i think having a hugging a union means that you need to think about all your members and you need to be inclusive and at the moment the problem with european union is that although each

initial stages in its inception was going to be an inclusive union giving to the less developed member states opportunities to develop through structural funds through their financing that's the commission of the law established back in the eighty's and we now move to a union which is basically dominated by two if not one country doing whatever they want keeping the common currency low because we need to put that into the equation germany right now has significant exports because their currency the euro is a is a is a low current. vice i must go go go a smart way to go to people here it's a lot of currency it's a long car and see actually four of the four of the four germany obviously very high current. actually greece and ireland ok too there's a difference analyser of activity difference here i want to say here just to be really provocative here and i don't want to be mean spirited at all big groups like

the germans won the second world war in europe but what do you think about that well look i think that i think that there are a lot of people who are going to look at it that way i think the fundamental issue here is that this is the end of the social welfare state in europe outside of germany not because people are choosing to end it but because they have run out of money to pay for it and i think the critical social question that confronts each of these countries individually is what will be the new deal between the citizens and their state about what is the state going to deliver because the state is not going to be able to deliver retirement at the old age it is not going to be able to deliver the pension benefits that everybody had expected and it's not going to be able to deliver the same size of a civil service that's going to shrink and so these are massive domestic political social questions personally being american and free market i think this is in one

way a very very important episode in history the end of the social welfare state in southern europe is going to give a blast of oxygen to the entrepreneurial class which i welcome but it's a massive social dislocation and therefore we have to understand this can be very you know you know it will go through but you have no choice if you have no money ok dimitry jump in there it's a very interesting thesis that we just heard but you know but you know that it's not the end of the world's fair as they do in germany or in france is on the end of the what everywhere if we impose in on greece and portugal and ireland if that is not what the eurozone or european union supposed to be united states of the united states of america new york sends a lot more tax dollars to the federal treasury going to receives in terms of government expenditures on life. delaware but hit by these in the in the opposite direction he does receives a lot more than you'd said to the federal treasury so you cannot have

a euro zone. with only one power to dictate the terms of the game so clearly ones one's governments begin to understand it you say there is an intellectual any ideological shift if you look at the last polls the ingres you will see that the left has been gaining as well as the altar right now this is not as healthy situation and i am sure that you will see the same thing in portugal and you will see alternately the same thing in as you are seen in france for the socially is actually present educated to gain support against mr sarkozy who did it has no idea what a european leader was spectacular leadership is supposed to be ok so clearly you will see it on some transformations but i would to be taking place interesting frank is close in london i can do what dimitri had to say following on pippa's fascinating because what we have is the center the middle dropping out everywhere

and we have going to extremes i mean this whole currency crisis and dad is creating a really intense political crisis as well because people are looking for. answers that have not been usually considered in the center. well when people are looking for answers the problem is that in greece for example people are looking to to demonstrate their way that they did these like the government the current government so effectively you don't seem folding happening because the left all of their right wing parties have a solution to offer it's basically a volt i guess the current government and i guess the current situation so the problem with with all these southern european countries and it goes back to you know smarties our strategy as what what is the politicians strategy is all right what is the alternative and we've we've talked about a common fiscal policy in european union the key question for me there is who's

going to be responsible for that are we going to establish a treasury in brussels are we going to give more power to brussels are we going to increase the democracy deficit that we already are i mean in your opinion you wager many more questions we hear time here answer i want to meet all of this or it's going to make all of my guests here today in london in new york a bank store if you were still watching us to see an example remember crosstalk.

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israel accuses iran of being behind bomb attacks targeting israeli embassies in georgia and india in which four people are thought to have been injured. and russia says it regrets the arab league winding down its observers work in syria and stresses a proposed peacekeeping mission can be deployed only once the government and opposition forces agree to a cease fire. the fiery protests in athens followed by chaos and the looting is public outrage escalates after the greek parliament passes a new austerity bill to secure another e.u. bailout of.

the. eight pm in moscow i match reza good to have you with us here on r t our top story this hour israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has blamed iran for attacks on its diplomatic staff in the indian and georgian capitals four people reportedly injured in a car bomb blast in new delhi while in tbilisi the device was discovered before it went off or these tests are still years following developments sure it's a surprise with more updates on tests are there any fresh details on how the investigation into these taxes is proceeding and what prompted the claims that iran is behind it. well details are still trickling in as the investigation continues what we know so far is that indeed there were two car bomb attacks wanted to delhi india one into lisi georgia the one in georgia was found by an embassy staff a local staff and it was diffused before cooper was however in india see a number of injured how's risen at the moment it is for and among the injured

diplomats wife now the indian police had said that it is the wife of the military attache and her driver as well as injured now she is in the hospital currently but her condition is not critical now but the statements coming from does fuel to the thing at this moment because prime minister binyamin netanyahu quickly blamed iran a for these attacks that happened in the two places said he said that israel has thwarted several other attacks with iran a behind them as well. yet ambassador to india have denied that tehran had anything to do with this and there are some indian terror experts who had said that it would be quite difficult for any such case to be such a bob rather to saddam explosion rather to be staged in india without the help of locals so they do they are skeptical of tehran's involvement in all of this now to put it in context so iran had also been blaming israel for a series of killings of officials as well as scientists involved in

a controversial nuclear program and we have to put it in the context of the international stage iran is right now facing harsh sanctions for that nuclear program coming from the u.s. and its allies as well as the e.u. and this tit for tat statement does increase that that tension that already exists and it is in this context that such car bomb incidents eyes today will be scrutinized and the implications. all right he's live with that. we will have more on these attacks and the investigation is proceeding from our correspondent in india later today and to discuss the implications of these incidents and join life from israel by journalist and blogger laurie endure for. thank you for your time so that claims that iran is responsible came shortly after the attack what do you think of the ground so far for these claims. actually identified. and claimed both iran and its proxy has gone on and i think that makes

sense specially from his column saturday after the fourth anniversary of the killing of a former slain. warlord military commander who did and it's universally assume that is it was the nation and they were going to tensed by his butler recently to tag israeli targets and this came out. it came a day after the fourth there were three is a very good fun of his brother was involved the rod is obviously her clothes that connect to his brother if you ron was involved in this attack he taxin to b.b.c. and tell him to go would not be surprised at all so yeah i think it's really obvious addressed each point worth i would think it's a now we have decided to run i would have us as hizbullah but again if you were wrong as behind you there would be suppressed by israel's foreign minister i said

the bombings would not go on answered do you think we'll expect a response from israel in this i'd be surprised if there wasn't. but i mean in that case then don't shouldn't they make an absolutely ironclad case about who is behind this before they make some kind of response because you certainly don't want to go off half cocked in a situation like this. i think. i think if it you know in the same way that iran has pointed it israel for the cessations of. nuclear scientists in iran without having absolute proof in the same way it is the point if it is real produce destination to libya four years ago without having absolute proof it was pretty obvious and i think it's pretty obvious who was behind the attack yesterday so i don't i i think you know i can't call out i do netanyahu or iran or his bum for jumping the gun it's pretty clear who was behind who had the

motive i mean a day after the fourth anniversary of this guy's assassination it's not a coincidence so there's been growing speculation that israel might carry out a strike against iran that there's been talk about bantered about for many weeks now do you think israel could try to use this as a justification for a strike. i don't think this is a nuff she well i mean i think israel would love iran to strike first and give it you know it didn't so that israel could say we're getting back and so. to whatever degree in the world i don't think that because there's no way that what happened today isn't enough or it will be such an attack on us and now we're going to send you know f. sixteen s over over iran and blow up all their nuclear installations no but what could happen is that you know this could be the beginning of this a chain reaction or not the beginning this is not in the beginning this is one more one more chain in the chain reaction but i'd be surprised if israel didn't hit back

. and that turned. cause you know another escalation and you know this chain reaction thing little fast until we end up with . oh let's hope not for all of our sakes journalist and blogger larry derfner speaking with us live from israel thank you for your insight you're welcome remember we are closely watching the tensions between israel and iran in the region you can find out more expert analysis on our web site r.t. dot com. russia says it will study an arab league proposal for a joint arab u.n. peacekeeping mission in syria foreign minister sergei lavrov says that a cease fire should be achieved before a new kind of mission of this should be deployed or he's sorry for the latest. russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov was needing today with his year a counterpart they were discussing the ongoing situation in syria over the weekend

of course the arab league called for a new joint u.n. arab peacekeeping mission to enter the country now the foreign minister responded today schools by saying the russia would consider that proposal but the implementation that would come with a number of conditions. first in order to deploy a peacekeeping mission we need the agreement of the host secondly there should first be peace which the peacekeeping mission will then help sustain in other words there should be a kind of cease fire agreement but the trouble is that armed groups fighting with the regime's forces cannot listen to anyone and are not controlled by anyone there one of the crucial points tonight and what the foreign minister had said there was that damascus would have to agree to that plan and the arab league proposal was rejected by it and ask if he could it see one sided simply backing the opposition not taking into account all the sides and of course he's seen damascus very very wary about the u.n. being used in this way and indeed russia as well as the the u.s.

being used as a tool for regime change rather than pushing for an end to the violence as well russia itself in the very beginning very clear about any proposal should be taking into account all the sides are not simply part of the opposition today the foreign minister calling on the opposition he weighed in very clear they did want to have dialogue with the president to at least continue dialogue with the government with the vice president there that we actually had today from the visiting u.a.e. foreign minister was paired leaping very clear that they're going to back the opposition financially and politically he said that at the moment there are plans to back the opposition militarily but of course there are already reports that countries like it are i have in the already started arming the opposite. she within the country has causing a lot of concerns because he's seen the situation growing increasingly violent as members of the opposition and different factions of the opposition have become

increasingly now over the weekend we had al-qaeda publicly backing the opposition and that's really fueling fears that the situation in the country is the main is really very fact that the variance of terror it's great. for more on the crisis in syria i'm joined by tony gosling investigative space who writes extensively on middle east issues so the arab league has also decided to hold all diplomatic cooperation with syria's government putting it effectively into further isolation what do you think would be the consequences of such unanimity in the arab world against the assad regime. well i think those regimes really represent the individuals in those specific countries i mean the arab league now has become almost simply a tool of the west because most of the most powerful countries in very much under the western petro dollar influence and they don't represent their people either their money keys almost all of them they also have a horrendous human rights record so i don't think that the arab league really

represents the arab people in any way nowadays let's not forget also in december in january we had an arab league sponsored investigation into syria and looking at exactly what was going on the only trouble is that hasn't surfaced that report except on the internet because it was leaked the reason for that is that it didn't come up with what the western arab leaders and the western press wanted to hear which was first of all that there are all sorts of third forces within syria who are killing people these are armed gangs armed groups running around and causing a lot of these civilian deaths rather than as we keep hearing the syrian forces the other thing is media law is very simple the arab league went around syria and they were finding that the the attacks we were being told about here in the west on our t.v. night after night simply hadn't happened many of them and so what we're seeing is is a really quiet horrendous situation in syria certainly it looks to me as if nato are

trying to just simply replay the script that they wrote for the libyan uprising but i don't think that's going to happen i also let me say that i don't think there will be a sort of peaceful intervention by the un in any way at the moment because those free syrian army rebels and indeed al qaida has very strong links to the west was the west recently created al qaida in afghanistan and also we've got a very strange element going on and that is that many of the fighters within syria believe that they're part of some sort of prophetic force from the qur'an that will move things forward for a sort of unified state or. caliphate in that part of the world and they're looking for a islamic leader that's not asaad so many of the surf items within syria are actually playing into the hands of nato nato has been really ruthless in manipulating their beliefs in order to get them to fight the assad regime so we're looking at really a two track thing one is an official policy which is at least to try to attempt to

get negotiations with the unofficial policy is constant attacks against the assad regime and i mean do they think anybody in syria itself that really supports these armed gangs running around the streets. of the pentagon says it's working up a fear radical military action in syria what do you make about. whether it's absolutely not acceptable without a united nations security council resolution which the chinese and the russians have blocked quite rightly in my view the last thing we need is a massive intervention in that part of the world as sad as made it absolutely crystal clear if there is an intervention in syria he will then attack israel this is just exactly what saddam hussein did back during the first gulf war back in the early one nine hundred ninety s. and you will see that if that does happen this will massively up again and there will be horrendous possibly even nuclear exchange in the middle east which could be the first shots of

a third world war so i think if the west does intervene intervene in a way it is absolutely inexcusable totally inexcusable and it shows that they have absolutely no regard for the international rule of law or how can the stance of the arab league against the syrian regime do you think affect the potential negotiation process in syria that russia and china are pushing for. well i think the arab league needs to make it absolutely clear first of all that the west and nato should stop supporting these rebels let's not forget that the head of the so-called free syrian army is actually a libyan man who spent much of his time living in oil and he's a very close to the western security services and i think the arab league needs to make sure that there's a severing of the link between nato and the rest of security services and and the first so-called free syrian army the other thing is we need absolute guarantees that there aren't covert operations going on boy western special forces now around and within syria so i think the arab league needs to get tough with the west in

order to bring peace and also to tell these free syrian army people that there must be an ego negotiated peace negotiator settlement that is the actually the only way to say the syrian people and to save that part of the world at the moment it seems and the west it seems fortunately is hell bent for more conflict in syria and replaying the horrendous situation that's now in libya let's not forget in libya we've now got roughly ten thousand political prisoners if there was an election tomorrow the libyan people would almost certainly vote for saif gadhafi but of course he's in jail and he's not even allowed to stand anybody that supports gadhafi now in libya is being rounded up tortured and imprisoned so i mean that is not the sort of situation we want to see in syria at all and i think we need to be really focused now on libya even though it's fall off the news agenda as to what's happened there we don't want that happening in syria. our investigative journalist tony guzzling thanks for your time. investigative journalist in middle east

specialist a so when stanley told r.t. that the syrian opposition is fragmented and says there's no unity between groups over the means of fighting the regime here's a taste of the interview coming up later this hour. although both sides the differences. in military intervention essentially political differences there is different trends in the syrian opposition mainly between people who support outside intervention and protest. so you've got groups like the syrian national council which are now openly in favor of a no fly zone which to me seems ridiculous because you know there isn't any kind of . the syrian regime for all its many crimes there's no claims that this problem to people so no fly zone just seems political pretext to me. buildings on fire shops looted dozens injured this is how the greek public made

a new round of drastic cuts approved by their parliament tens of thousands protested the deeply unpopular package needed to get a second bailout from international creditors r.t.g. agreements as more place than those pictures as events that took place last night really getting a sense here that the government the greek government is under attack from all sides now you've got the the years old international monetary fund really increasing the pressure saying because some gone far enough they have been implemented correctly but also we saw taking place last night we have the demonstrators now really seeing in very large numbers up to one hundred thousand people in attendance and they are growing in anger throughout the course of the evening in the clashes taking place with police and that resulted in certain amounts of petrol bombs being thrown at police force the man accused in the crowds also please.