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times there are these issues where a regime is not nice to its people but on the other hand you know the united states has been on the other side of the supporting repressive governments more than on the side of the protesters usually over over the history of the u.s. since world war two i think united states has preferred friendly regimes rather than democratic ones pretty pretty interesting point there and we saw that with libya as well you know see sending that support in to people who may have been answered gadhafi but we don't know really why and that's that's the question not only when it comes to our government but when it comes to some of the weapons manufacturers here in the u.s. to what extent do they have an obligation like raytheon and going. to you know it can they just do business as usual or do they actually have an obligation to figure out who they're selling their weapons to will they also and who to have or they
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think they can sell them to a u.s. government permits and so a lot of times the government permits it simply because these companies have tremendous lobbying power on capitol hill and whether that's a good idea or not. you know a lot of us are moments went to the afghan rebels in afghanistan to fight the soviet union those were made by american manufacturers but that turned out to be not such a great idea. spawning al qaeda and many times you get unintended consequences for doing this we armed iran for years under the shah and then all of a sudden it flipped and we have the same situation in egypt we don't know yet what's going to happen if the muslim brotherhood takes over the country you may have an unfriendly regime with u.s. weapons there so it's very it's very dicey to do this but you see it's really a domestic issue not a foreign issue. because these lobbying these companies have tremendous lobbying
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power and of course with the recession and everything there's a there's a more even more pressure to export and one of the things that u.s. . exports is arms absolutely and in fact last year i'm not sure if it was a record but it was definitely a high nearly thirty five billion dollars in the foreign sales of u.s. weapons. and these are companies again like boeing lockheed martin raytheon now i know that recently there was an announcement to some proposed budget cuts to the pentagon so what happens if these large companies we know they're not going accept last profits the name in the previous year what happens when you know the pentagon stops giving them as much money as they're used to what will they. do you know where will they export these weapons to continue to make money or they'll be more pressure to export because if they're losing revenue from the pentagon here domestically in the say well gee you know the economy goes south we're already
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seeing arguments that we need to keep defense spending high for the economy but if that doesn't happen then the companies are going to go well you know we could provide jobs in this state or that if you just let us export a little more just open the gates. support so there will be more pressure to export if the pentagon budget is being cut at home what's the biggest concern you think americans should have about what we're seeing here well i think. the unintended consequences of all of this what happens if assad does get overthrown israeli were originally very cautious about this because they didn't really know what was going to follow and i think that was the probably the best policy is to be a little cautious you know sometimes the united states gets. ecstatic about doing in a one time adversary and i think that's what happened in libya more market i. he
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has started to play the west game he was gave up his nuclear program he was making amends with the west yet we had this opportunity when an internal revolt to overthrow him i think the same thing with assad with assad it's just irresistible. to go after this guy who we've built up as an enemy over time now it's a totally artificial enemy and we should be doing this sort of thing but i think that's the temptation is and you see a lot of pressure in the u.s. to actually create a no fly zone or actively take military action where people are saying well you know this is syria this is this is not libya syria is right in the middle of israel turkey all these key players in the middle east who want to be a little more cautious so that that's why you see this movement to do something a little less than that and that's get weapons to them but they can do that sort of sleep because oftentimes what the u.s. does it gives weapons to its it well it encourages its allies to export weapons surreptitiously and then says what will replace your stocks that way the u.s.
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will keep its fingers are clean so to speak and that's what may be happening with turkey as far as selling or giving weapons to the syrian opposition right so it's a model situation we don't really know what's happening but given past history that might be one way that it will shake out certainly interesting when you look at sort of the criticisms being launched versus some of the actions being taken there's in line with what's going on i haven't even seen your fellow at the independent it's hit well it was a make it or break it decision in greece today a vote by the parliament there on whether to approve yet another round of austerity measures and therefore pave the way for euro zone finance ministers to move forward on a bailout plan for greece the greek parliament did approve the austerity plan the vote was one hundred ninety nine to seventy four now included in that plan if two hundred thousand public sector job cuts the lowering of the minimum. wage from
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seven hundred fifty one euro per month to six hundred euros per month also several other cards and government spending wages and pensions that are sure to have a major impact on the people there well this isn't was seen as a necessity for the country to avoid default on its debt but thousands in greece are fed up with what austerity measures have already done to their lives and their economy and while they made sure that that anger was no. police estimate tens of thousands of protesters turned up in the streets to protest and also set more than forty billions of buildings on fire and hurled rocks and firebombs of police who in turn used tear gas and arrested dozens of people. and the passage of the plan was seen as a major step but the approval of a second aid package will not be decided until least wednesday when finance ministers are scheduled to come together for a meeting as you can imagine a lot of people keeping their eyes on what's happening there and to talk about what
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a few of these big decisions mean i spoke earlier to the president of euro pacific capital peter schiff he's in houston texas and he told me why greece has the right intentions in mind with this new plan to take a look. well it's the right direction maybe it's not the right order of magnitude the problem is the austerity is an austere enough and you know if the greek people are protesting it shouldn't be the austerity it should be the praful you see of the greek government that made the austerity necessary and as i said earlier it's it's going to get more severe before it's over but yes they are moving in the right direction albeit much more slowly than they should be so you think further and larger cuts should have been made. then were decided upon our absolutely and i think they're going to be made i also don't think the greeks can repay the restructure debt i still think that there's too much debt economy and they're going to have to have a bigger haircut to make it possible but you know what should really be so alarming
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is the extent to which greece is broke because they were just as broke a couple of years ago but no one cared and they can keep borrowing money that's the same situation that we have an america we're just as broke except that we can keep borrowing because people haven't figured it out yet but once the bubble burst once don't want to lead us any more money then we're the same circumstances now as i wondering i mean as something that this bailout is approved on wednesday one thing i mean is it one of those situations where it's going to get worse before it gets better. it is and i said i think there's more cuts coming both as far as haircuts on the bondholders and more cutbacks in government spending and that's they should just be lowering the minimum wage they should be a policy good but a lot of countries have these minimum wage laws as they first are conscious but you still have too many people employed by government you still have government meddling in too much in the economy and that has to stop i think that what really
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should have happened is they should have defaulted completely stayed in the euro and dramatically cut government spending that didn't happen but i do believe that look they're doing now is better then simply leaving the euro zone and trying to perpetuate massive government with printing press and it's rock because if the greeks think it's bad now will they see how much worse it would have been if they took that but i mean i'm wondering for so many of these people that are in greece people who have been out of work already or will now lose their jobs it sounds to me i mean fifteen thousand more jobs cut. last wages than even they were getting before i mean a lot of these people this is going to really really impact them and you know how are you going to stimulate any sort of economy that's not even in the realm of focus right now trying to stimulate their economies or they're just cutting and cutting and cutting remember a lot of these jobs were
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a drag on the economy or was there better off without these jobs the economy will be more productive if people stop working for government and work productively in the private sector the economy was still going because the greeks were able to borrow money and spend it but that's what we're doing in america they were perpetuating a phony economy if you really want to create growth in greece people have to get fired from their government jobs so they can have more productive limit in the private sector that's what needs to happen all the all the austerity programs are is europe pushing greece in the right direction and i said i what i need to know are a lot of people are looking at what happens in greece as kind of you know a model that once implemented will be used to deal with other struggling countries countries like italy and portugal do you think that's a good thing. i think it's a good thing that we're trying to rein in government i don't think it's a good thing. the way it's done completely as i said i think that rather than just
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going through this painstaking process i think it would have been better off if the greeks just restructured right off the bat and maybe had a complete befalls and stayed in the euro zone but made a much bigger cuts in government spending than the ones that are being made now so i don't think this water torture which is kind of the way it is is the best approach but it is better then the greeks trying to just preserve all this government by printing drachmas because that would lead to a bigger collapse but you know a lot of the reforms that europe is forcing on recess they have to look in the mirror did they would benefit from the same types of reported the pa on the get a black it's just that in this case the kettle is blacker than the pot and that was peter schiff president of euro pacific capital and that will do it for now but for more on the stories we covered go to our to dot com flush usa sure to stay tuned for the a pan our i interview the host of progressive radio news hour steve in london about the recent attack of an israeli embassy in india and the blame game that's
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subsists. from. download the official antti application to your i phone or i pod touch from the i choose apps to. the jollity life on the go. under non parties my fuel costs and our s.s. feeds now in the palm of your hands. christians on the hot seat. this is help people of many ethnic groups prayed and ancients toilets. not voted on today this is the sort of worship but can only be found in this russian region.
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to visit with the we're not allowed to worship in soviet times people like us good deeds that were put on trial we hope open at freya's will avert floods quakes and manmade disasters. services like these a rooted in ancient history these words were first spoken nearly a thousand years ago by the worship is gathered here now a thought to be europe's lost pagans. for his family says else on a journey one that's been
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a thousand years in the making. and many others living in this republic will do the same just as their ancestors have done over the centuries. and his wife and vera live in a small village called. it's a public about eight hundred kilometers east of moscow. i. live in russia and there are a finnish. there are two main groups islanders. believe they belong to the same ethnic group they speak different languages and live in different regions of the compass. these people spent most of their lives behind desks in the city. is too much and the
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difference take a trip to get away from it all dozens of like minded folks find one another through an internet site calling themselves the rumors that explore and study its history. this adventure will take the traveling local historians to the most mysterious places in the lovely old republic. the story. joins the new ledge on the freeway as they leave the city has promised to show the quest fascination some of. the lol i haven't seen you for ages where did you bring this cold from it was minus one celsius yesterday and now it's minus eighteen would you please show us. we go here and then we will stop a few times then we have to go off the roads here because it is a fork and. you're so extreme coming here in such cold weather.
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now we're going to try to reach the most interesting places our chief destination is the top most point of marielle where we will look for cousins and cars caves. the republic's highest point is. only a few people have succeeded in reaching its peak it's thought that this smells and often leads people astray during this expedition three vehicles lost their way the drivers went missing and the walkie talkies weren't working. people often get lost in this area they just lose their bearings there is something odd going on when we can't establish contact with one another either by phone or walkie talkie. however all the explorers eventually will unite a coup. to them. in marielle is considered
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a zone of have normal activity local people often see unidentified flying objects here. or know mario as if the ultimate of two hundred eighty four metres above sea level is the true apex of the morey world. landscape. homeward. only eve of the old mary press service there and you have gary kaminsky of visit. the capital of mary l. . musicians they sing maori folk songs to entertain and residents with their traditional melodies centuries ago. it was a fortress now it's an old tell but large scale development has recently begun. a large swamp has been replaced with an embankment buildings looking like castles
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complete with towers and ramparts sprouting up here just a short time ago with us. this is a kind of renascence. this place is incorporated many aspects of venice. and here we see a northern influence with danish and dutch elements. similar buildings went up in the marielle republish quite a long time ago one example is a magnificent old castle standing on the banks of the volga two hundred kilometers from your colo it was built to mr fake forest by russian eristic rats of the share much of. the culture was built so not only by russian masters but also by foreign. aid to land at this time to the castle. here you can
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see the rock is them time and drama. as well as an older russian style. in soviet times the cultural was turned into a holiday resort the tourists what apprehensive about the building local people spoke of ghostly inhabitants who they believed to be the causal zg audience. today because it is that as imposing as it ever was the message doors leading into hollow rooms still produce a sinister creek. and the road ghosts and i'll call some. we hear the dolls through came as the men from room to room. we share a common grounds and get along with them quite well.
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in the village of where you have kenya to recommence you cough live everybody is getting ready for the ornery press service. cough cleans his body you know both else before facing one of the most important events in his life as daybreak he will take part in one of the most ancient of sacred rights for the murray people. to moral take a candle to the secret group the mr weeks were such candles are made of him candles bought from shops are no good for this purpose they should be homemade. the candle symbolizes the link between me and god and i will take my prayer to him. and your is my he is your from giving a mother a blessing for her son's life giving doctors. at a future unlike christians who pray in church these worshipers go to
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a grove where they seek communion good nature but as for setting else they say a brief prayer and. everybody coming to the grove brings domestic waterfowl with them they serve as food for both the gods and the people get a convention has decided to sacrifice the fastest divorce in his household the maori raghad geese and ducks are symbols of home and could do in three basic elements these creatures walk on earth swim in water and fly through the air. eight hundred animals were sacrificed here inclusion a blue card and a ram as well as the sandbox. one woman from the rubble as team has
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a good knowledge of the area and she provides a running commentary for all that said at the prince services taking place neophytes they could treat each tree is dedicated to particular diety. everyone carefully follows the guides words as they take in the sights along the way. to ground is on the left hand side people bring this sacred place as soon as we get to the religion. to let. the special day at the convention of a couple has been looking forward to it as arrived at last. vera and you have jenny reached the sacred grove situated a hundred kilometers from your girl. they thought was a fellow sacrifice birds have also been brought by mary from all over the republic
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also there to the press to their goats. at first a grove resonates with goose oaks soon after the only echo is of priestly prayers. these pagan priests know how to communicate with the gods people praying in a grove lost against pines urges that strong beliefs in the forces of nature they insist their faith is the world's oldest. people come with what we call sacrificial waterfowl. bring our desires ease and grievances along. with i discuss their problems with the priests. and communicate by means of this tree of what we pass their requests and motions on that this table are. enormous pot suspended if
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a bone finds the lips side by side with the old swords there used to make porridge and a ceremonial mixed broth. taken to the dock synergies or bore them here. they break up the. chunks and tells the pieces into the fire the brass band seems to have been brought by wash appears. this is help people in russia worship before the arrival of christianity a maori have prayed the same way to their gods for several millennia. old these people are offering prayers to many goats which is this where the five spodes have been set aside from bonfires in this group for example the wall morgue. and this one they pray to the god showed she love a social they were asking for his grace in childbirth and happiness. up. to. the skin and organs of the birds are criminy to
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the bone funds is forbidden to take any leftovers from the sacrificial offerings from the grow. cultures and some of you are going to get federal dollars from the list. of cities are no shortage of austerity can the slashing of budgets of the street the welfare state generate jobs to be turned. down by the official anti application q i phone the i pod touch from the q saps to. the geology life on the go. under multi parties my old posts and our s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. car. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and any glimpse
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something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry the big picture. play politically. it's technology innovation and the relevance of the around. the future coverage. shifts. from. a mission for. chrissake priests for shutters free. free. free.
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free. free. videos for your media projects. such a hard time. in the southwest is full of historic sites some rich and legends. on the shore of the volga the great russian river from here a fair is needed local pigeons have even memorised. there's a flux of regularly hitches a ride from one fourth of olga to the other.
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