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claymore the canary islands ok larry if i can go to you i mean as a result of the war thirty years ago there was there was the united nations said that there should be a compromise or should be negotiations between britain and argentina why can't why can't this just be resolved i mean if there's just no political will is there. well if you have a lot of little elements here one is argentine is not particularly famous for good governance and an argument is repeatedly made to remind us that back in nine hundred seventy six eighty three some twenty five thousand arjun current civilians were murdered by the military. secondly. in terms of precedence and so forth you clearly can't look at this self-determination issue as either strengthening or weakening the respective positions of the two countries because you can find compelling arguments going
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either way and sovereignty issue isn't clear cut and you know both countries can score their points the real issue at this point is that there has to be a solution because the argent tines are going to continue to mine over the issue because this is a great national cause that can be exhumed when. you need a big whenever you need a good distraction waves a bloody flag of frog. and even even a severance go right ahead. yeah let me jump in very quickly can i let me tell you one very easy way for me to lose this argument by defending the military junta and argentina and i would never do that i'm not going to defend a group of murderers and murderers who are currently serving life sentences in jail
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now the real issue here is that art and the argentine democracy today which has not only distance itself from this military dictatorship but has been proactive in finding justice for for the atrocities committed why should they have to pay for the stupidity and the. just the actions of these these military generals the violent actions of these generals i think we have to i think what mr burns is doing is he's equating the government of cristina kirchner to that of fidel or some of these more of these these dictators and that's just not fair so i think we have to really look at modern day argentina today ok just to get to a second point this issue of what ok i'm going to raise your second point quickly. the an easy argument also to say to discard argentines claims here is that it's bloviation they're whining this is all political but if you actually look at the past thirty years their claims to the islands are and i'm talking the last thirty years very in keeping with foreign policy and economic policy after the the actions
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the belligerent actions of the military junta with with the birth of democracy following the failure of the war under menem in the ninety's he kept this issue low he wanted to get on the good side of england of britain but what happened with the kitchener first mr and the christina with their governments is they didn't want to be dependent on these strong western countries the united states england so they said we are going to build our national sovereignty we're going to making do you know we're going to make this country great alex are going to invite me to get involved let me jump in because there's another huge issue out there that we haven't really talked about and that's called oil and there's a potential there a vast reserves could be there and the british are now unilaterally doing exploration. is this what it should really now all about is about oil because maybe the britons don't care about the falkland islands but they care about oil b.p. does go ahead. well that's a forgive me it's a bit of a simplistic way to look at the situation you're absolutely correct in saying that
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there is exploration going on around the falkland islands but i also believe and correct me if i'm wrong alex about think there's some actual there was some joint faulkland argentine exploration going on as well but the matter to me is quite simple if the oil that is found is found around the falkland islands in the area. under its sovereign control then we know where the oil belongs but this sort of back and forth between margin. than that and the following that continues to dominate alex go ahead so i could say yeah like i said the only the only colonial asking me to this whole debate is the fact that argentina wants a colonized three thousand british subjects on the hawke and i and i think that's a bit simplistic alex you want to record i heard david cameron too but oh no that's right yes i know what you are aware us that us of the three thousand one hundred s. the three thousand people who live on the falkland islands and they will want to remain british ok larry if i can go to you how do you how do you see the oil
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playing into this here go ahead go ahead larry. i'm sorry i didn't get your point now my but you know we throwing in oil now here how does this change the mix all right right right. this becomes an economic determinism argument. you know the british certainly like the sniff of oil. but you have to face up to the fact that income we have to call in the in nigeria and so forth which have plenty of oil the british are probably giving up. colonies. it is not. and the. british tradition when it comes to commies what you have here is that the conservative party margaret's. sure the iron lady. who was able to describe
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general and be known many as tin pot dictators but i had no problem in hugging and bracing general pinochet of chile because chile was of use to the british in the falklands that is the tories big adopted this issue as the as the great pottery out of the issue of the decade and it was a very heroic one and the british sending their v. bombers thousands of miles an improvised or own kind of hers that had landing strips laid down on them it was a it was really a glorious war and there is a subset of the british population that is deeply committed to that war and also. a much larger percentage of the british population that can have their enthusiasm be revived very quickly if there's any threat to the fore croons and the tories
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know they can work this issue and of course is a domestic component to this but it's not something that the world has to get with because the british have quite quite as a matter of fact as bonafide the case no better no worse than the arjun time and i don't think the argentines have a say there's another scenario there's another element here look if i go to you what about the the antarctic ok because it's become more and more important and this is a nice nice foothold for the for the brits to be on what they call the falkland islands i mean there are other places they did these islands are moving but my political reality and economic reality is moving. yeah with it with these islands and the south atlantic you know the days of the british empire are over the sheer t.j. value of these islands now in the twenty first century are. not really relevant this isn't about for great britain this is not about oil this is not about power
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this is a. strategic influence on the subtle i think this is a simple matter of three thousand people living on some islands that wish to remain british subjects and say is listen i'm going to give you we're going ok i was going to give alex the last word here is this just a principled issue here there's no it that's that's the top priority you think in this conflict it's principle but of course not you have political rhetoric of course on both sides christian teacher saying give peace a chance which everybody i think gave a little sigh to this is about i mean this is about sovereignty and this is about the issue of what are we going to leave the colonial past behind are we going to look to the future are we going to face up to reality which is that it's not sustainable for the islanders on the falklands and the argentine citizens to keep up a good relationship if there's this tension and if there's this ridiculous divide between them trading lines the relationship in many different ways is very clear so we
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should just acknowledge that all right gentlemen we've run out of time but a status quo has lasted for thirty years maybe in another thirty years that many thanks to my guest today in washington thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember. to.
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syria's president announces a vote on a new constitution which would effectively end nearly fifty years of single party rule in the country that made an escalating turmoil. a rally is marking one year since the pro-democracy uprising in bahrain protesters face yet another harsh clampdown with police using tactics and weapons from the u.k. . but ramping up the rhetoric israel's prime minister calls for a stop to what he calls a rainy and aggression spite a lack of evidence linking tehran to the recent bombings in india georgia and thailand.
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left from our studios in central moscow you're watching our team with me and he said now it's four pm here in the russian capital two pm in damascus and syria's president bashar assad has ordered. a referendum on a new constitution to be held in eleven days that's according to the country's state run news agency but it could put an end to the one party rule of the president ba'ath party and shrines in the country in the current constitution the announcement came to mid reported violence in the cities of home at home are some of the fiercest in the months long on rest are serious a notion a report from syria today called the national referendum on the country's new constitution has been announced in every day that are expected to be how the. syrian government and the throat are probably confirmed
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a document that had been drafted to end the monopoly of the ruling party people who govern people according to this new initiative that was should yield full marks to brandon but we can see he is going to earn more if you'd come to me. it's about ballance competing all across the country and today we've been receiving reports from hama north over the top for the markets about the tank being deployed that come home about. pipeline their parent the mayflies and from the capital damascus but the military chain of residential areas looking for a position under these reports are hearing hard to verify usually they are coming from one source from the syrian opposition we've got to use. while traveling. not far from the. don't move and we've been talking on. the news appeared the government also. fully.
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intended. montaigne and the use of the goodies but again this is very complicated to get the truth to get exactly what is going on on the ground and here are a whole. since the beginning of the uprising in syria last march the regime of bashar al assad has been accused of repression torture and killing but with a bad month of homes blame has since focused on assad forces attacking civilians and shell in residential areas. the beautiful yard calls himself a member of the opposition and intellectual not throw lucian rewon his stresses from a social democratic group originally from homes he blames assad for mistakes which allowed bloodshed at the start but he just defies what the regime is doing in his native city now he is why and he is trying to. protect civilians i think that in homs there are many gangs you know there is
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a title and everyone can claim that he belong to this title and no one can ban him the danger posed by the armed forces was seen in the killing of a french journalist last month and b. says when he went to homs he put in his mind that the syrian opposition is very peaceful and the g.m. is trying to frame them so he he was like a pioneer in the call and he was killed by the some gang attacks on government targets have become increasingly bloody themselves with twenty eight people killed and scores injured on an attack on a military base in aleppo last week an f.s.a. free syrian army representative at the mit it's responsibility before the organization later denied it claim and government forces claim ridiculed by the regime. insurgents and terrorists have committed this attack only an insane person
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could say that the government is killing its officials and officers and destroying its own administrative buildings these armed terror groups were created to commit these crimes and they have committed them in the past and will continue to do so if the west and the arab street support them last sunday the arab league vote still for full political and financial support for the opposition to unify its ranks it is similar call from the leader of al qaida and muslims to unite efforts to help overthrow bashar al assad. recent reports suggest iraqi weapons qatari troops and libyan rebels are role in syria on the opposition side this makes for a volatile and highly dangerous makes. many western powers interested in fomenting unrest and syria and so they'll turn a blind eye to extreme weapons coming in through borders like lebanon and turkey to create the very militants i won't call them terrorists but very dangerous armed
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groups but the west has its eyes wide open when it comes to the reported death toll to come of the no un figure more than five thousand employees civilians only but that's bigger leaves out any mention of pro-government forces killed in the conflict some say the numbers are destroyed to meet a political objectives. our number so for six thousand i don't see expose them but you would be surprised to know that over two poles of it hundreds of. this is the. good commented foreign pressure has focused on the assad regime but the syrian government and its international supporters say there's been a total failure to talk normally to violence from opposition forces which has been a key factor in the country's present turmoil they warned that find it a solution to the country's crisis isn't possible without recognizing all its causes written off now t.
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damascus syria well president marc armand from the international relations department at the university of bill can and turkey says the announcement of a referendum on the new constitution poses a major challenge for the syrian opposition. whereas a year ago the opposition as it began was demanding political reforms now the chief spokesman for the syrian opposition abroad and as far as we can tell the various rebel armed groups say nothing short of the fall of assad even his execution is acceptable so it's a challenge to see how the syrian government will be able to stage are afraid of that will have legitimacy in the eyes the opposition on the other hand if all the opposition if there's a large turnout of voters that could well be damaging to the claim to really represent the syrian people. in many ways a democratic election is the ideal solution to political conflicts but now. both sides have people in fear the consequences of losing and the opposition itself
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can't really risk. losing face by now backing down and taking part in a way to proceed. but the u.n. general assembly will vote on thursday on a new syria resolution condemning the government for violence in the country the document was drawn up by saudi arabia and catherine is supported by a number of western powers times correspondent pepe escobar says unlike libya syria is unlikely to fall under western influence even through forceful measures. well this takes in syria saw much higher compared to libya because this is that directs effect a direct clash between the u.s. and nato on one side and russia and china on the one you know on the other side much more than it was in libya in libya russia and china and even that the other brics and germany as well they said ok maybe this is not the red line yet let's give them the benefit of the doubt i mean the french and the brits and the
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americans the country was destroy syria you cannot do that because first of all they're going to have to fight the real army even if they're not very competent but they are battle hardened there's been two wars in the middle east the syrian army it's a smaller country there's more population you cannot simply landing invasion is out of the question because the needle would go all over the place the repercussions to turkey to jordan to iraq to saudi arabia so nato plan is to foment civil war and that's it's like it is exactly what they are doing. well don't forget there is much more news and analysis on the syrian conflict on our website our team dot com you can follow the latest developments or trace back to how it all began our correspondent uploaded plenty of videos and firsthand impressions from and find the heart of the troubled country. now last year pro-democracy protesters and another arab country back rain fall they got what they
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wanted after being promised reforms including those of the police but twelve months later activists trying to mark the anniversary of the uprising found the clampdown was as harsh as before the only difference was this time some tactics and arms the police use were brought from the west by those supposed to bring democratic change parties ivor bennett has more. tear gas and stun grenades supposedly the work of a reformed police force but one year on since the first anti-government protests will crushed in bahrain it seems not much has changed the only difference now the crackdowns been planned by one of britain's former top cops john the ates used to be assistant commissioner of london's metropolitan police he now works for bahrain's monarchy which says he's there to oversee police reforms the police have borrowed or behaving despicably their latest trick is to throw cancer tear gas into
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homes of people they don't like shut the doors and people have died choking to death tear gas or use out of doors and i think for any british police officer overstimulate is retired to be associated in any way with that is is his role yes resigned from scotland yard last year in early fix him of the phone hacking scandal he popped up in bahrain in december as part of the regime's p.r. campaign to clean up its image a campaign pushed hard it seems by yeats himself he recently told the daily telegraph his new charges had a well rehearsed plan for the anniversary of the uprising adding the concept of reasonable reaction to provocation has been reinforced. as for the uprising itself he said this isn't organized protests it's just vandalism rioting on the streets claims hotly disputed by london's bahraini community and we lose thousands and thousands of people protesting demanding their rights. vandalism. he seemed to
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forget sixty sixty five people actually died from police brutality activists in bahrain insist their protest was peaceful their aim to reach the iconic pole roundabout in the capital manama they say they were met by tanks toxic gas and rubber bullets what we witnessed on the ground as not. the front or from. previously but this way in extend through the toxic gases and use of poisoning. mr john is contributing we should see a positive things of the ground what we are seeing today is nothing except that it may not just be british tactics bahrain's using but weapons to government figures show the u.k. sold over one million pounds worth of rifles and artillery equipment to bahrain from july to september last year long after blood was spilled that despite
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insisting all licenses had been revoked as for yates his contract runs until april by which time he hopes to put in place concrete reforms on this evidence that seems a long way off either bennett r.t. london but bahrain is not the only example of the west so active approach to dictatorships and pro-democracy protests says british pakistani military historian and journalist eric ali is full interview is coming up on r.t. later this hour but here's a bit of what he had to say. when you look at what the west did in relation to the seeing some of the crisis in the yemen where killing still go war the former yemeni president just having made the. states. so the double standards that operate make. western. people pushing
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for intervention in syria saudi arabia. a centrally they would like syria version of the muslim brotherhood to run but concrete then the united states will do deals with them as it has done in the past. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has stepped up his anti ron brad rick saying tehran's aggression must be stopped but he repeated his claims that iran was behind recent bombings targeting israelis and several countries allegations fueling concerns of military confrontation on monday netanyahu was quick to accuse iran of attacks on its diplomatic staff in the capitals of india and georgia four people were injured in a car bomb blast in new delhi while in tbilisi the device was diffused before it went off in the next day two people apparently with iranian passports were arrested in bangkok after a number of blasts injured four people there israel says there are links between
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all the incidents despite authorities in india and thailand saying there's no such evidence and iran denying any involvement in the bombings well to discuss further implications of these events i'm now joined live from beirut by all the risks with the expert on middle east affairs thank you for being with us today i might have netanyahu his latest statement that iranian aggression must be halted what action should we expect from israel. well many people have speculated the recently that israel might go ahead for a unilateral attack that is a fear which has been expressed time and again now i'm quite convinced that the u.s. and israel have a difference in their point of view that has become clear especially when you look at the contradicting statements and even american officials are very clear that there is a disagreement with israel america wants to give diplomacy a chance while the israelis are very intent on a strike now with respect to these latest incidents about bombings occurring in in the georgia and thailand when you hear the rhetoric which is being said the
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language being used by israeli officials for example they say iran poses a threat to the world it poses a threat to the region i think what they're trying to do is prepare the public opinion or gain public opinion support for such a strike the reason being that for the time being there is a kind of a world public opinion which is against israel and views of israel as a hostile hostile state which is that aggressive which always wages war and for that reason public opinion is not in his roles for you about so by taking advantage of these events whoever might be behind them what is what is trying to do is trying to get again the public opinion support which has swayed away from israel so much over the past few years especially when you look at the wars which waged on lebanon on and on goes on so it's an attempt to gain the public sympathy however i don't think that this will succeed because it's very clear that iran cannot be behind such an attack such an attack or what we saw is an act of amateurs not people who
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really want to target someone and if iran let's say as you assume iran really wanted to target an official why would it go for bombings in india or attack ambassadors already embassy employees in such countries like india or thailand or do georgia it just doesn't make sense what that's a do you think that israel could act alone we've heard turkey speaking out against it reports about the u.s. could israel go out on its own and take action against iran. unfortunately the possibility does exist that israel could go ahead and launch an attack against iran however i think that is a slim possibility the reason being is well runs the risk not only of iranian to retaliate and how iran's allies could come to help like hezbollah for example here in lebanon and that's not the only risk the other risk is that there is an increasing argument in america itself that israel is turning into a strategic liability for the us not into a strategic and strategic asset.

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