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thousand people get together each year at the international poetry festival of men . demonstrates to the entire world then a country so drained by war poetry shows to humanity that the whole world's problems are. that suffering is every war what hope also lives in the world. without pain since i live in such a become tree. that everything is far. education . food. yes health now the house in. my country still beat the new justice doesn't extend to all. day i'm actually believe there is abuse of power and greed from that troll resources it was because we are the children of a planet from a planet that we're depleting with wars and everything. that was wrong as
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tree doesn't on seed governments but it does open consciences and hearts it goes like this. the more coal. we must stand up as boys and begin to say that we should let is to be sex is the cause of mass destruction but the time has come for us to remember our values to put right all our wrongs to celebrate our humanity and truly live the belief that each of us is the same person as all of us home. the. who.
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if you use only one hand nothing happens but with thousands of hands things will change. why did i protest people are scrounging for work without any freedom they are reprised and arrested by the government told me i'm of letting out of the family i. thank god they're only the military trucks smash the gate and entered the monastery they beat up everyone and destroyed everything they tied up the monks and they kicked anyone who looked up. or you know that even though they made the monks crawl to the trucks they beat them from behind until they vomited blood. regardless of our lives we protest we protest for freedom. it's obvious the what the regime is doing is very unjust getting students and monks in jail as political prisoners.
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do with monks were and continue to be tortured you. see on us military dictatorships never care about the people you do it to us and. the way they control and subjugate with fear the look don't be on a change in. the. last laugh. that was. last. seen.
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as monks we don't take up arms and nic we don't start and revolutions no no yes i know no more. than making a political situation would not benefit from armed revolution. i would say that the protest wasn't successful because many were killed. in the past no one knew that the dictator tortured bait and arrested people need upolu moment we are but we know these are you can. do the honorable son from the revolution showed the world the cruelty of his regime of our you need to know yes that is what all of this is one tangible victory. your government.
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the notion of what we do as people all around the world have huge consequences. to the extraordinary implode bill mobilizations of february fifteenth two thousand and three when the world said no to war there were somewhere between twelve and fourteen million people in the streets that day all with the same slogan the world says no two in a hundred different languages it was an amazing outpouring was summed up the guinness book of world records said it was the largest outpouring of humanity on one issue in the history of the world might not and should face later the new york times wrote there are once again two superpowers in the world the united states global public opinion that was huge we fail to soften your. but it did me in that when the war happened no one could deny that it was illegal this
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wasn't a situation where the us had been able to bribe and threaten enough countries of the un that the un gave them permission. might be an advantage to. be. done. a. bit like. the. pentagon playing own ego dives such. oh what a great things a common goal. and so we're trying to realistically as possible present this world as it could be so people can see what it's like and use that to work towards it. we have to push to make things actually help. you. the strike you have to demonstrate. is that they don't do what you want it to do all kinds of things to make things interesting and the best outcome would
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be one. that needs to be different. and that should be because the. people. below the level of. the we need to do is go back to take our lead not from a political party or a politician. but take our leave some people struggle cross the flow have the audacity to say no. and then we must raise our voice says so much the only thing left is to fight to fight to fight to the to.
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i'll be in britain and argentina again sparring over the legal status and future of these islands is this disputed a. few . the official. told time from the dumpster.
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on the. video on demand. world cup. now in the palm of your. will president ahmadinejad is smiling for the cameras today after a major announcement in its nuclear program iran is also threatening to cut off oil supplies to the european union in advance of an embargo there what does it all mean well explore. and somewhere in between respect and rhetoric a clash of two ideologies on one side as of sink or swim capitalism in tallahassee on the other a helping state and so who has it right in china or the u.s. . and one
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year and one dictator down the rim of the remnant of civil war runs of civil war pardon me are still clearly visible in libya so was the u.s. intervention worth it and is the history destined to repeat itself. that's wednesday february fifteenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lucy catherine of and you're watching our t.v. . well new developments in iran today which has reportedly threatened to preempt a european union or oil embargo by cutting off its own fuel exports to the region iran also proclaimed a major advances in its nuclear program an announcement that's not likely to sit well with the west which already expected that program of being aimed at creating atomic weapons now the significance of these developments lies partly in the timing iran has we had it reiterated its readiness to resume talks with major powers to discuss the program but the message seems to have been drowned out by the drumbeat
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of war at least the kind of aggressive talk that we've heard out of israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu has accused iran of destabilizing the world alleging that tehran was behind the recent bombings in georgia india and thailand and iran in turn says that israel is waging a psychological war that many peer may put fruit pardon me pave the way for military action a lot of tough talk and if it turned to action the big question is where that would leave the u.s. there's a sense of deja vu here in the lead up to the war in iraq a threat of weapons of mass destruction in iran pundits and lawmakers freaking out on t.v. all over the place and it seems that u.s. public opinion is swaying as well the recent poll found that nearly half of all likely voters believe the u.s. should be willing to use military force to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon and while obama has called for a diplomatic resolution he's been just as clear that no option is off the table the drumbeat of war is growing louder the question is where this march will lead it just all of the policy director at the national iranian american council. joined me
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earlier today and here's his take. the e.u. announce that they're going to cut off purchases of iranian oil in six months i guess five months now and you know what this is like is the e.u. saying to iran i'm going to break up with you but first i need to find a new girlfriend so give me six months iran i think views this as well if you're going to cut off purchases we're going to go ahead and preempt that and use the leverage that we have right now europe is dependent on iranian oil they haven't found yet other suppliers that can replace oil that would be cut off. at the peak oil season right now where they're using the most amount of energy and so a cut off by iran would actually be pretty harmful to them so this is really given the eurozone crisis and and you have that as well so iran views this as this is our time that we can actually inflict damage and say to the e.u. well before you hurt us we're going to hurt you so is this sort of i mean if you look at the ease decision to participate in some bar go as a sort of bluff to get the iranians to do whatever when it comes to the nuclear
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program is this the equivalent of iran calling the europeans out on its bluff and what advantage is there for the iranians to do this now knowing that all this rhetoric will just paint them as doing these bad things to europe to israel to america. i don't know that it is a bluff this has been passed by the e.u. the more than a bluff it's sort of like they are headed headed towards a cliff and they're convinced that before they get to the edge they're going to be able to build a bridge that they're not going to fall down it and iran is basically saying well guess what the cliff is the cliff is right now whether or not either side goes through with it is still a matter of question there's still a hope that there's going to be some form of negotiation that ratchets down this back and forth escalation but until we get to that point it's going to be an escalation where you have each side posturing potentially taking steps will be devastating for their own economies and national security interests but you know the danger with posturing of course is sometimes the rhetoric and sort of get away
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right and it could lead to concrete actions that could potentially be. the dangerous is there any sense that there is a serious push for war military intervention at least on on the side of israel and if so would the us inevitably get involved i mean there's been some sort of debate about that there's been a little bit of a public back and forth about this with a lot of president obama sort of pushing back a little bit against the threats by israel with some of president obama's domestic opponents saying we need to be more forceful in wielding the war threat and a lot of people questioning whether or not israel is actually serious about potentially. doing strikes on iran's nuclear program what the u.s. has said is that they still haven't made a decision to build a nuclear weapon and the difference between the u.s. and israel right now is that israel netanyahu brock are saying iraq is going to enter this point of nuclear immunity where once they pass this point we're not going to be able to take out their capabilities regardless of whether they're peaceful or for military purposes we're not going to take those out because penner
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that leaked that actually the israelis i think didn't brock's say that it wouldn't happen for another three years at least and that's panetta who said that he thought the tact could potentially come in april and otherwise i mean this is what this is the public back and forth with the u.s. sort of shining the spotlight a little bit and i think i take the panetta warning of israel could strike imminently as more of a warning towards israel to say hold off we're not going to allow this to happen and put us into. a very risky situation without some pushback the question is ok how do you how do you actually hold israel back before they make a decision to actually do that and what would be the consequences of israel carrying out an actual attack and the u.s. getting involved i mean certainly in terms of public opinion global public opinion shares the u.s. it seems like it would be devastating would be really devastating i think to the u.s. role in the region i think would be devastating for. israel's role in the region i think it would expose both sides to some pretty dangerous security threats and.
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the real problem here is that there's this escalation towards this military action that's not going to actually take out the nuclear capabilities of iran if israel bombs iran it sets the program back a couple years and then they have to go in and bomb again and then to go in and bomb again and you just have this cycle that really end of the day in full scale occupation total war there's no clean strike that happens this is if this happens it's the beginning of a long confrontation that really it's going to make you rock in afghanistan look like a cakewalk and it's going to plunge the u.s. into a very long term military engagement was certainly a frightening proposition that we're not really hearing when you go see pak for example and hear the g.o.p. candidate speak very briefly it and i know it's hard to answer this quickly but what what is behind this assumption that we're seeing in the mainstream press from the pundits a lot of the politician that iran is sort of this irrational state actor iran has
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signed onto nuclear agreements iran has not preemptively stricken the resources of other countries as israel has for example so why is there this presumption that a nuclear iran will be a major threat and will behave or not irrationally i think a lot of that perception does come from the fact that iran does not behave very well towards people it's not a democracy it's not accountable to the iranians on the ground non-democracies that we support on the other hand if you look at the way that you ron has reacted. or preempted some of the moves that the u.s. the international community has done it's very similar to what we're doing there are terror attacks inside of iran in which iranian scientists are killed and then you see corresponding terror attacks carried out purportedly by iran. and the territories inside of iran it turns out ok it looks like israel is behind this so complete tit for tat you look at the sanctions says we're going to cut off oil
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purchases iran says ok we're going to block oil. pearse's it's all the same thing it's all the same formulation the struggle for leverage i think that painting iran as irrational actor is very much a way to add to this argument that you can't you can't have any diplomacy with you when you can't negotiate with these guys when in reality everything they've done has been driven by interest and cost benefit analysis while at the end of the day unfortunately whether you're talking about the europeans or the iranians or the americans it's the everyday people that stand to suffer from these kinds of rhetoric and actions that dexter thank you so very much for joining us thank you and that was jim all of the policy director for the national iranian american council well leaders of the world's two largest economies met yesterday as china's vice president made his rounds in d.c. now the country's fates are intertwined economically but its problems between the two that seem to dominate much of the rhetoric now there are concerns about military rivalries and of course the ongoing economic to favor issues like trade and currency here was president obama speaking just yesterday. we have tried to
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emphasize that because of china's extraordinarily extraordinary development over the last two decades that with its expanding power and prosperity also comes increased responsibilities and so we want to work with china to make sure that everybody is working by the same rules of the road when it comes to the world economic system and that includes ensuring that there is a balance of trade flow. between not only the united states and china but around the world but whether ally rival or both it is hard to understate the extent of china's economic success and many western economies are floundering right now prompting some to even declare a crisis in western liberal capitalism meanwhile in the emerging markets of asia brazil south africa and elsewhere those countries are sailing right along riding
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the powerful wave of state capitalism now whether guided by the invisible hand of the market or carefully planned state strategy capitalism does seem to be evolving and it's worth asking where there is whether there's some lessons for the us along the way now dr benjamin barber has made a study out of democracy and capitalism his new book is called consumed how markets corrupt children infantilize adults and swallow citizens whole and he joins me live now from new york dr barbara thank you so much for speaking with us so is capitalism undergoing and identify the crisis right now. well it has been undergoing an identity crisis for about three hundred years to say in each century it's had a different set of problems and the fundamental issue it's always faced is the relationship between the free market and government and has a free market by definition is one that works entrepreneurially without government regulation on a market basis but the reality is from the very beginning that capitalism left to
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its own devices can be in our kick it can create monopolies instead of competition it can destroy jobs rather than creating jobs and has always actually achieved the greatest success in. working with governments then comes the question what your show is of today what kind of a relationship is that doesn't involve regulation and he trusts legislation of the kind we have in the united states doesn't buy subsidies which the chinese do which singapore does but the united states also does for agriculture and for the oil industry or does it involve actually running certain industries such as in europe was traditionally the case orders interfering with trade through tariffs and all those things in other words there are many different forms of state capitalism where the state intervenes and the question here is we tend to like our own kind of united states don't like the chinese does the chinese which are very free at
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leaving markets to their own devices but interfere a lot with trading currency in our own ways we both have forms of state capitalism well and any sort of raise the issue of u.s. state capitalism i guess one excellent example of one of that would be the u.s. bailing out the banks and the auto giants during the u.s. economic crisis which has sponsored of the birth of this occupy wall street movement him banks got bailed out we got sold out that's the chant do you see at all this kind of interference or perhaps turning the tide of public opinion against capitalism as it's been played out here in the u.s. today it will certainly see on the right in the republican candidates people who thought the bailout of the banks and who particularly fault the bailout of g.m. of the auto industries and without question a lot of people say if you believe in capitalism the big firms should fail just with a small businesses fail and if they fail they fail taxpayers should not have to be
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bailing out these big companies on the other hand given that the auto industry is the wounds of america's economic success and that banks finance capitalism around the world. if you fail there would be a danger of a global meltdown the fact is governments have had to intervene and subsidize and bail out the industry here twenty thirty years ago with russell corp they did it with the steel industry back in the late forty's early fifty's so the fact is whether or not we like it capitalism needs big government because it has big capitalism and big firms when you let g.m. general motors go under or chrysler go under u.s. steel go under you might let ten percent of the national economy go down and no nation can afford to do that but do you see any sort of shift or a change in thinking and i'm not talking we have to step away from the republican presidential candidates because it's only going to be one line or rather it
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rhetoric are going to get out of that but any sort of large scale shift and perhaps a knowledge in that capitalism may need a little bit more of a role by the state in order to succeed especially in light of these are propelling economic crises that we seem to not be able to get out of. without question occupy wall street as you said has already not just among young people and unemployed people in the homeless raise the alarm that capitalism is destroying democracy but has really made people begin to think about the legitimacy of a system that creates such deep inequalities and lets the one percent get bonuses of ten million dollars while other people about a quarter of the american population makes less than forty thousand dollars a year so those inequalities are being highlighted in very important ways and are raising the question of what government can do but we have a very special and difficult situation the united states because the government to
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which people want to turn for solutions is itself tainted by big money and big banks which makes for example the occupy wall street people not say let's have more government but the same more government means more money more business more banks more rationed in other words the failures of capitalism were being seen by many critics as failures of the whole political system and the democratic system so one of the dangerously have is that rather than say let's have more state intervention more government control people are saying not just capitalism but the mafiosi itself is in deep trouble and that's creating a systemic crisis for america which is very very dangerous and very briefly we're almost out of time but do you see any end to the us to sort of get out of the cycle of what would have to happen in order for the politicians the people who are in fact in control to sort of take notes and try to act differently but that's a great question lucy and the simple answer is we've got to find ways to get money
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back out of politics because as long as the politics and money seem to be the same thing then capitalism is democracy democracy is apples and and the faults of the fish and seas of capitalism become deficiencies of democracy so to fix the mocker see we've got it increase its autonomy from. hansen. all right well money out of capitalism mr barber dr barber please thank you so very much for joining us we hope to have you back on the program sometime soon thank you and. also ahead an r.t. from bad to worse the situation in syria is quickly deteriorating before you decide who are the heroes and who the villains are make sure you have both sides of the story all that up next.

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