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so you want us to pull the strings are the same complex but possibly arming the rebels iraq admits weapons and al-qaeda linked militants are already pouring across the shared border. punish police late entry teachers and students angry that there's no cost translates to austerity cuts elsewhere it's protest of what they see as their country's capital lation cheeky view. underarms nuclear program must be targeted with a military strike that's the reported view of israeli intelligence following a un inspection not playable to resolve the deadlock. that star special report songs of war which explores the longstanding relationship between violence and music. in the one true they actually use music to break through so the idea that my music
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out of rome is going to reject. the cia's belief that would be easy to target towards this week. the music was so loud. and it was probably some of the worst talk but they faced. all right chris thank you from the. it's incredible all ending in gold and hearing badge and emotion.
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go down well i've always liked music i think most people do actually. is it means good luck to me among many other things i love and i've had a chat to to write music partly for a living and largely for fun that's also helping things. it's incredible. in your imagination. christopher soft as a composer for sesame street because his music helps to teach young children how to read and write for forty years he's been working for the famous children's television show during the time he's written more than two hundred songs. their surname.
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christof awards. and the quirky sesame street residents like. sing his songs lyrics are to do with magic numbers strange words were the names of the colors of these innocent children songs were in q maine. two thousand and three. a. my first reaction was this can't be true and this is just too crazy. and it was absurd kind of course i didn't really like the idea that i was helping break down prisoners. but it was much worse when i heard later that they were actually
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using the and music and and. i actually. interrogations and obviously conflict. and prisoners and they were. terrorists. but. they were not exactly in dealing with. these in. just spock worldwide outrage in two thousand and four they show how u.s.
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soldiers abused iraqi detainees. until recent for you this document was top secret it's a guideline for interrogation methods compiled by the office of medical services of the american secret service the cia. all the medical specialists carefully describe the torture procedures cia agents are allowed to use during interrogations they focus on methods that leave nerve visible traces on the prison knows such as noise and loud music permitted noise levels are as follows music as loud as the noise of a highway for eighteen hours a day at the volume of a cranked up a motorbike for eight hours. as loud as the truck engine at full throttle for four hours. and as loud as a jackhammer. for two hours. human
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rights groups for some courts for the publication of these torture guidelines still most of the pages look like this in the reasons of national security the government says it for human rights were such of such as thomas kean i'm still form a clear picture of what musical torture methods were used. prisoners were forced to put on headphones they were attached chairs headphones were attached to their head and they were left alone just with the music for very long periods of time sometimes hours even days. on end listening repeated loud music. and. music with being autistic. and how the war in afghanistan. and in any number of hidden sites music was torture
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the sort of the idea of troubles christopher so much that it's decided to go on a journey to find out more about how and why music is used in this way this is fascinating to me because of the horror music playing perverted to serve evil purposes if you like but i'm also interested in how that what is it of that music that would make it work for that or. i also want to slow to learn about why anybody would even think of doing something like that. i'm not really so troubled that my songs got you just the idea that they're torturing people oh and i really feel pretty strongly. and.
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it seems really incredible to me that america would be torturing prisoners at all after all we've what was in the past against countries who do that to try to get them to stop it so the idea that we would be to look at ourselves to save our own freedom is very rough. christopher's first stop is chicano guard where he wants to meet a soldier who served as
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a prison guard in guantanamo for nine months. prisoner at twelve thirty nine teen years old what he witnessed how prisoners were tortured with music he finally left the army and started to criticize their methods publicly now age twenty three years on employ and produce. a crystal i've been really interested in coming to charge you because some of my music even might have been used and there it is you ever see music being used to crunch time oh oh yeah yeah there's it was in the gold building i mean. music would just blast out of that room like i mean it's like they had a whole concert it was like a i mean it was it was like a dance club style. music system that they had set up just brocken in this room for with all this kind of like of american you know rock music you know you leave somebody in there for a couple hours like that in the stress of this and i seen interrogations go on. for
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you know ten twelve hours i came i had i worked twelve hour shifts and several times i came in right at the beginning of my shift and moved to detainee into an interrogation booth and then didn't ever for the rest of that day move that person out and sometimes it was like two songs playing against each other in plea off tempo just like blaring you know say this rock music with like a johnny cash song against each other they play them both so they say in the same room yes and. the whole interrogation thing seems so weird they focus so much on using things
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that weren't necessarily i guess i just had such amped up expectations of what torture was that when i saw torture as. you know listening to music and stressful positions i think like most people it just in really strike me and i i think my hot head had a hard time working around why that was really torture but then you know i came to realize. it's you know these are these are just really insidious psychological techniques that are being utilized and it's not you know it's not the torture of like a movie you know we don't have people wired up the racks and we don't have you know we're not pulling out toenails we are doing is leaving them in really uncomfortable positions on the floor in the cold for hours and hours and hours listening to music it's way too loud if they hate on many cultural bases you know just things to piss them off and break them down. but i think that most are already pretty broke and i
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don't know how effective these things were because i think that the just the just being in the cage alone already broken a lot of people you feel it really changed your life todo it where you were for a long time these feelings of you know this the skill these feelings of these this was wrong weighed on me very heavily because i think that this was a really huge wake up call for me and i don't know if i would have wanted to continue to be in my self centered little american bubble was there one thing in particular was it the war itself or was it what you had to do or both it makes you feel that it's all those things it's all of them together it's that it's that my experience in this one place was so horrible but this one place is just i mean really just the smallest tip of the iceberg the awareness of the amount of injustice that's going on in this war to me is total izing it doesn't allow me or him to think about anything else.
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musiq soulchild this perfidious idea has been around for thousands of years however the koreans and the chinese were the first to systematically use music as a psychological weapon during the korean war in the early one nine hundred fifty s. three years north korea and china forty nine south korea and the united states.
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more than seven thousand americans were captured many which will trust the idea of like the north east being used in interrogation really started with the north koreans and the chinese and started the korean war it was you know it was called brainwashing it got very big at the time so why i guess since that time there has been a belief that that music would work and interrogation purposes. after the korean war experiments were conducted at mcgill university to better understand the methods of the chinese scientists and check the drugs and to test subjects them away for days and blasted with music with devastating effect. the results of these tests were supposed to pass or train american soldiers to
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withstand torture but the cia used them to optimize their own interrogation methods the us intelligence guidelines show how an anti torture training program was turned into a manual for torture as a cynical case of reengineering. the goal is to confuse the prisoners to break them psychologically and to make them feel awfully weak and powerless. two of the preferred tools noise and loud music. the cia allows up to seventy two hours of continuous deafening sound during interrogations making it impossible to sleep. my understanding is that the cia believes that would be easy to interrogate these people if they were weak if they if they didn't have the will that they were brought in with but i
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have heard i have absolutely no answer for why you were ordered. but how does music torture work to find out christopher is on his way to meet a man who knows everything about torture methods. i don't think music has a dark side so much as to use and kind of the dark side. you can write a song that's very dark where you can use a perfectly normal something for a purpose. any song i think if you played it over and over and loud enough and incessantly enough for long enough time we tried anybody crazy.
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pennsylvania chris wants to beat mike ritz he's a former u.s. army interrogator and now works as a consultant for the government. but he hasn't lost his old skills. but there are a few people who know more about music culture but he does like hey chris cerf our yeah. i love trying to understand little bit better than you think is used in interrogation the very name of the game here is to create some dependency that prisoner on the interrogator you want a prisoner dependent on the interrogator and the more you can isolate that person the better you're going to be able to do that and sound is in isolation you know a peer whereas you know you saw in a lot of reports of guantanamo bay and staff and other things like mittens so that there's a tactile oh i see or god will say you can't see your hoods you know these are all
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designed to isolate the individual and sound is another way of doing so just having so much sound that you can experience any other scratch the idea. so you maybe can hear yourself think right so for that point if you just it's not so much that it's musical it's incredibly loud and then it keeps you from hearing anything so it could keep you awake so you won't sleep so it creates some sort of sleep deprivation it's all designed to keep you closed in your own small world as a prisoner so that you can't you have this fear of the unknown and the stress sort of building. but then you're still saying that it's the person who saves you from partially it has a chance to get a good answer for you to get to the truth i mean that's what the focus on this is about the truth so it's a matter of balancing things i mean if you want some some stress because we. talk to me the stress i put on you it's the release from the stress and i love to get some sense of what it feels like to have this happen to you. if you think there's
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some way we can we can try that out i mean we're certainly willing to manipulate you just by mess. you have to recognize that you're not going to have the same shock of capture experience i hope you know it's coming and it's certainly a psychology that so what we're doing is a very contrived yeah but you probably will get a general sense of it and you certainly get a sense of the isolation and that's what you think you'll experience most just so isolating. and i just i'm begging for some relief from the right and so when when when the feeling is that you're looking for that relief that's time to come talk to me about your problem and you'll come but you'll come to me if i don't come to you and i can't come you're not here any front and. you have no right that's ok i'm giving up.
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i write this and i got a few rules to you before you go down with me do you hear me. first thing the last thing out of your mouth is sir do you understand that yes first thing and last thing out of your mouth is sir you understand that yes you're right sir yes sir dumbing sir yes sir good second thing i always have your poems out do not a fist in iraq think you're trying to hit me if i think you're trying to hit me i'll beat you and head off you understand me yes tyson oh yes sir dummy sir yes sir . next thing never be taller than i am tall do you understand yes or no you taller than i am tall are you taller than i am tall right now no sir you're not you know that i am time. i get cancer. cases are moving it's go.
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stupid. when you say rest her alright the pillow yes sir yes. sir yes sir good hand up are you trying to. get. us.
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mike mentioned earlier that he forgets the reality and of course i began to wonder now exactly how long this is going to go on how long because my good friend with the camera think this is a cool thing to shoot and how soon should i break stylus or correct i began to think this is i really just realizing this i began to think like a prisoner i began to think well they get mad at me if i start kneeling what will happen if i lay down with someone he can hit me and then he and the fact that i would actually even think that if you sense of what this would be like after more than a few minutes of. the sound black of the university of montreal. scientists examine how music affects our
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brains all feeling. sets up as unique musicologists scientists and psychologists combine their expertise to find out for example whether music treat a particular negative emotion a policy that would make it tougher to torture. the book the. bag so non-sensory dissonance means for example two notes that are very close in terms of pitch three plus not this dissonance creates a kind of friction in the outside. and our brain interprets this is something unpleasant we also know that dissonant music activates brain regions that's her associated and the perception of negative emotions that sound in my sound you get feet. this experiment shows how our bodies respond to unpleasant
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sounds these electrodes measures can come but there is a heart rate and blood pressure while the trusted person listens to music. the candidate writes this piece as pleasant. but the body reacts very differently to the dissonant piece she writes it sounds unpleasant. this feeling has nothing to do with musical taste or cultural background but is related to how specific structures in the brain respond to music let me down and write down our regions that's not ok to do in the temporal lobes sorry about the scientific terms sounds like me signal he's you know since but they sit near the center of the brain all self-will that's there is one on each side shackled to the life they are shaped like omens. you see i made up of different
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cause and particular what's special about the m a dollar is that they have connections to several other brain regions. of the visual system and they want to trace systems no i've nicklas stands and so they are well placed to receive signals that to me for example acoustic alarm signals and then send to several other regions of the brain if you know where you constantly and we now also know that music can trigger a fear and that the recognition of this fear takes place in this structure and i guess aleppo is the source that's sort. of the ultimate results of his work show that music kind of art discomfort anxiety and even fear that public policy is for a psychological weapon in the n s. s. welcome british scientists.
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