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iran's nuclear program must be targeted with a military strike what are your views where you took a chance for a u.n. inspection team to resolve the deadlock. sponged rieslings teachers and students angry because no thanks in their classrooms thanks to the stars you can. see downgrades you can see the forces on the books are unavoidable. and the latest euro zone efforts to save greece instead spend its doom says a leaked report distributed to top e.u. officials discussions on that and much more coming up in the money on the show next on r.t. . i can with a lot of show i'll get the real headlines with none of the mercy and a lot of washington d.c. now tonight we're going to take a look at a leaked memo that says the debt deal that finance ministers just agreed on for
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greece may only be making things worse than reuters reports the venture capitalists are dealing with more under twenty one theo's than ever so how do you make sure this boom of young entrepreneurship continues and spreads beyond silicon valley and then at an annual conference of thousands of scientists they told we're going to talk about how citizens united and anti-science lobbying is a powerful force to reckon with are not all bad warfare night getting a dose of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. so today just like every other day the mainstream media spend hours obsessing over really silly political stories and if you don't believe me take a look for yourself. the energy of centaurs crowds contrasted sharply with the single blue energy of it romney held yesterday in cincinnati amid a pile of boxes let me talk first about bill adair here separate interested region
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by box your i mean you lecture which you say serious or search for three reasons what are it yes first of all winning helps you here's what happens when you rise to front runner status everything you say comes under the microscope it is the sec it is well rick santorum is now to explain a lot of what you said are my right why bring out. what he was asked about it christian much to my dismay a lot of times rick actually answers questions he asks and we have to talk about it afterwards there is that question floating around could someone who is not currently a candidate wind up being the g.o.p. nominee here are some of the names that come up over and over again you've heard them many times former florida governor jeb bush and current governors chris christie and mitch daniels those names have come up none of them have indicated they have any interest in running for president in fact quite the opposite now pulling. right questions like who is stepping behind the box rick santorum once again invoking jeremiah wright's name those are the big hard hitting topics that
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deserved plenty of time to be discussed that it not to mention in faintly boring i was wondering who actually watches this stuff so anyway today i want to keep it short and i want to. india to another example the pentagon providing misleading information way thing taxpayer money take a look at the new information we've learned thanks to a federal audits report and we constantly on this show talk about the weapon systems that just sucking money out of all of our pockets including not just through in fade in media. costs of cost overruns delays mechanical errors but all need to be fixed so while the f. thirty five the twenty two might be some of the worst and most blatant examples and actually happens all the way around to see the federal report concludes that the real costs of weapons projects usually don't make it into budget documents or weapons program supports all they might outline how much has been or will be spent to acquire the new fighter jets ships the new vehicles they don't outline those long term cost things like operations made minutes and repair expenses when i say
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you usually i actually mean that seventy percent of the time these types of costs are obscured seventy percent and there's a whopping me that is that should make everybody cringe at the amount of deceit was all laid out plain and clear in the form ab government accountability office report and the g.a.o. only looked at three years depending on iran's reports to come to these conclusions so can you imagine what would happen if you look at ten or twenty years now now only is this another example of government agencies specifically that apartment offense bigger responsible being greedy it's also against the law congress in one thousand nine hundred five an act of a law that expanded it in one thousand nine hundred one and one thousand nine hundred four requiring comprehensive reporting and analysis of life cycle costs i personally think the blame goes all the way around here right you can blame the defense contractors you can blame the pentagon you can lend congress for not keeping tabs on what they're supposed to be monitoring but the conclusion here is
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plain and simple while the american people are struggling being asked to make sacrifices and cuts to much needed social programs the pentagon which as is also facing cuts well they get to consistently lie to congress and the people about those expenditures they flout the law and no one i can promise you this nobody is going to be forced to see any repercussions for it but this is a big deal this is corrupt and it's all of us getting scammed i'm sure the pentagon would love to keep us on it out of the limelight it's out there the idea was done for reasons so that we can know the. through so that we can inform the public so that we can try to fix the problem but if you ignore these reports and how do you expect anything to ever change and so that's where the meat mainstream media once again fails to do its job it's just so much easier to banter about that he said she said then today for the numbers and that's going fortunate state of television news in this country today they choose to mix.
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well euro zone finance ministers agreed to a new rescue plan for greece today the one hundred thirty billion euro plan a call for private investors to take a lot of people you point five percent and i agree while finance ministers are calling this a good deal a balance a way to secure greece's future only report that reuters and the financial times about their hands on him to spell trouble they did feb fifteenth this ten page confidential memo was distributed to senior officials in europe and it warns that to have a new bailout main principles might actually be self-defeating are we seeing denial coming from the european officials or are just packets lies being sold the solutions are discussed as it may have and he ran down as though director of economic research for the reason foundation anthony thanks so much for joining us tonight are you like that one right i'll say what package lives that mean you're angry and so it really is a dismal set up it's like you know one way or another really screw very very. fine call me a pessimist and i'll be a pessimist so we have you seen this week and i actually i was i was watching
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twitter yesterday for news of you know something coming out of this meeting because it is a thirteen hour meeting which means finance ministers and hours upon hours just waiting and i actually was what was watching twitter when the news when that story broke and i was just going past every word basically. the story basically points out is greece is going to fall it's this this bailout is just biding time you know i'm i'm a pretty strong presence on this is well this is it is in a you know really we knew this even before this report came out but it was sort of like solidifies that with the numbers that were in front of the finance ministers who says going to default this deal is basically just biding time for banks to get their fiscal house in order for countries to be a little bit better prepared but no we're kidding ourselves that we think that this is the end of it i mean let's talk about some of the specifics too right they look at austerity measures that have been now i guess you could say. forced onto the greek population at the same time i stared he is really only going to cause to rise
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even more says the exact opposite effect of what you want to happen right what else is what will we will do and one of the interesting things in this this would be could just that it's going to force them to lower their minimum wage which will reduce their expenditures and they reduce their minimum wage by twenty percent for those who are over three twenty five and those are under twenty five reduces minimum wage by thirty two percent and i think that most of what that's trying to do is trying to warn italy and spain but hey you go down this road this is what you're looking at this is going to be really painful so not only does this deal church buy time with some aspects of austerity measures but it's also a warning sign to spain italy who are the next couple countries that are on the brink that this is not the route that you want to go to deal with this now for weeks before it comes to this ok so if this week's memo has been leaked it's already out there then how do we hear all the finance minister is saying that they just came up with today is great but if the right steps forward that this is a solution and this is a compromise whatever you want to call it the words have been pretty positive are
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they just ignoring us yet or politicians. they view this just because it's been leaked it's not like they're going to turn around and change their story i mean this the whole point of this bell up hackers is trying to instill some confidence and it's it's actually fascinating to watch so many aspects of the market buy into the short term thinking. is just delusional to think that the grief system the problems in greece are over and at best at best in this bailout deal with everything goes well we're talking about just lowering rates that g.d.p. to one hundred twenty percent at worst and what this memo points out is it's going to you know top out it's you know almost one hundred eighty percent even if it gets to this best case scenario one hundred twenty percent of their debt relative their g.d.p. it needs to be sixty to seventy percent it's no we're even close to what it needs to be so even in the best case scenario of this of this bailout we're probably looking at you know it's a full twenty four to twenty fifteen something like that well you know it's interesting you bring that up to something we discussed on the show couple weeks ago i don't believe that you were here for that but. right i was saying that maybe
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they're just giving them even this hundred twenty percent level of debt and you can because they're saying that you know italy basically is there right now and so if you tell greece that they have to go any lower and italy which is deemed too big to fail is essentially going to be approved and you know unsustainable will they've been through tinkering with but that number is going to be one hundred thirty percent you know about it being one hundred twenty point five percent you know those put right at that threshold is where is that you know last night you know that could be the case you know i really think that this deal is mostly a warning sign that there's a lot of aspects of the sort of warning signs to italy which is that the next one up sort of the precipice and spring pretty close behind them i don't think that's you know deep down in her heart angela merkel personally guard actually think that this is going to prevent a greek default i think that you know even greek politicians know that you know they're just sort of biding their time they're biding their political time these guys know this you know we're not the only ones with the data to be able to look at it but they're trying to play politics they're trying to buy time for european
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banks they're trying to buy time for you know france to get its fiscal house in order so that there's not sort of a cascading effect across even sort of pick countries this is you know this is a very tenuous time in europe and they're trying to do whatever they can to sort of keep themselves you know a step ahead of the crisis are they're trying to buy time but at the same time are they also trying to have a little bit too much control right because greece also has elections coming out walking i shall said that maybe we should just postpone the elections for now and wait until we can make sure that the wrong party or the wrong leaders are there that we haven't chosen the wrong democracy which is let a few people to say well you know this is really interesting because it almost seems like greece will be the first colony of the euro zone what do you think it will i mean i think it will be in the day what by the time they produce those default they're going to just be treated like any other emerging market country that the faults in the way the i.m.f. goes in and basically takes over and tells your country how to. i think that's
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where they're going eventually and they're just you know if anything this might be sort of like a warm up act for really what's outside of control of the greek economy is going to look like i don't think it matters what government you have increased i think what matters is the greek people i don't i don't see greeks taking ownership of their own problems their own debt crisis you know this is it the reason that greece got into this in the first place is people didn't want to pay their taxes so they paid off you know the tax collector the tax collector didn't want to lose his job so you know the fiscal lords of greece to sort of like fix the books and everybody was fine with this but it's going to take them to take ownership of this paper is the same time they're writing because now they're being told that they're going to have cuts in the minimum wage they're asking me straight to austerity measures that take place and take a patient just look look at that and say it's our fault well not just that but look at the way the germany responded at the end of world war two look at the way that japan is responding to the you know the earthquakes in march there's a dramatic for school and fiscal crises that hit countries all the time and we see
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positive ways of responding to them it means don't go raiding you know your views eons it means don't destroy power grids and you know and occupy transit systems that's not going to do anything you can occupy every greek transit system you want the greek government can't do anything more than what they're doing right now because they just do not have the money to greece don't have the tax money to pay to do everything or it's just simply not there but they're buying time by then going along with austerity measures that are being imposed by you can say other countries i mean there's still the result of us reached its end of the oh i absolutely know it's interesting point you bring up here because people have asked you know how come i don't we don't see riots in america americans don't riot anymore right you can see the japanese culture respond in a completely completely different fashion to the tsunami to the earthquake but at the same time we have arrived in london to sure it was a people might call it an occupier tea party our own american form of rice but i don't think i think that i don't think that we buy in this ng and i don't think that there are my i mean i'm
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a. and actually i think that there's positive things in both the occupy and the tea party movement so i don't see that as a negative about you know what some people refer to that's how we respond to the united states and i think it's a little bit it's a we want to try to take ownership of our own problems by proposing solutions so you've got the party proposing solutions you have occupy people proposing solutions we're trying to get i have not heard a single greek riot put together sort of like here's the austerity package that we think would work well that needs all these you know but you know these debt problems that we have you don't see that there's no real right if the job of your legislators that you elect to actually come up with those that is right is that we want to straight time for financial experts out there and again thanks so much for joining us tonight. and time for a quick break coming up next. to the streets to protest after and i was actually listening then the u.s. government subsidizes big business with tax breaks loopholes bill or do they have it all wrong should the government really be subsidizing small startups and stay.
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the same or. is the drumbeat towards more money as the chattering classes discuss the possible dangers. technology innovation. elements. well here in the u.s. the internet and internet companies rose up to protest and ultimately defeat sopa and pipa for now at least but the government's response of piracy isn't just an issue on a national level it's actually global so we've spoken at length on this show about
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the and i counterfeiting trade agreements and as an actor and how this piles piracy and counterfeiting fears and one massive international agreement and it's billed as a global effort to stop counterfeit goods whether they be sports apparel computer software or music and movies and it's nothing new actually it's been in the works for about six years president obama actually signed onto the agreement last year and he's been joined by australia new zealand canada morocco singapore and south korea and in a three crit ceremony all e.u. countries except for five of them also signed on but over time details of active leaked out to the public and as he will put the pieces of the agreement together protests an international outcry have followed close behind this is something i discussed with the atlantic's and part esther's last month but most of the agreement signed last year and. he did he did it without the need for congressional approval because he said was operating within existing u.s.
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law and i think that what we find out especially once we saw what happened with with the protest against is that the u.s. public does want to be more a part of these conversations because at the end of it if you notice something that we all use and it's something that we're all part of. now well we haven't seen a reaction in the u.s. over after like the ones over pippin so thousands of taking to the streets and other countries to protest their government signing on to legislation that would restrict and govern the internet without protests in france poland and lithuania those are all the people's way of saying no to the elements of this agreement like a provision forcing internet service providers to crack down on its customers but most of all if the secrecy of this entire process it's really rubbed people the wrong way and so now some governments in the e.u. are actually starting to pay attention to the people and they're expressing their own concerns over provisions of act up after protest in poland the government announced that it has suspended its involvement in bulgaria they have followed in
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poland's footsteps pulling out of the signing process lot via wants greater consultation on the provisions of this agreement and lithuania is justice minister has spoken out saying i don't know where it comes from and how it originated but i don't like of this treaty was signed skillfully avoiding it discussions in the e.u. in lithuania i mean while germany and the czech and slovak and governments aren't going anywhere near the agreement and it's current form so there you have it almost ten countries have formally expressed some form of opposition and like we saw on a smaller scale here in the u.s. with soap and many of the negotiations for acta comes some sort of beef with the current language negotiators excuse me some before the current language for the agreement but what's really fascinating is that all the small countries have actually risen up spoken out after the government leaders put a foot down to an agreement it gives too much power to hollywood and the governments that wouldn't force their will so it's another interesting development
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another change for the way that big business and specifically the entertainment industry used to getting things done some people considered act a hollywood backed up from sopa and pipa it looks like they might not have had the sway and might not have this way if they used to anymore so i guess the lesson here is do not mess with the people's internet. now every year the american association for the advancement of science holds a meeting and this year was attended by eight thousand scientists from fifty countries all some claim that usually this meeting is normal time to pat each other on the bags revel in their latest accomplishments this year there is a message of doom and gloom and a fedoroff president they asked said that she was scared to death of the anti-science movement that spread it saying we're sliding back into a dark era james hansen had said that science is under siege and we have a planetary emergency and very few people actually recognize it so where is the evidence of this anti-science movement exactly though where you can find it in the statements that we've heard from republican presidential candidates as of late
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specifically rick santorum just this month. some. some fully. you know the basis of the bible that i referred to global warming is not climate science but political science. we were put on this earth as creatures of god to be going over the earth so you should. still want to watch out for our good for the earth spending never even the home of. the sun. and it's not just rick santorum in fact scientists who argue that the supreme court's citizens united decision has also played a role they have it's cost us with me is chris mooney science and political journalist and author of his latest book the republican brain if science of why they deny science and reality thanks so much for joining us tonight. for starters
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what do you think of some of these statements that he said re coming from the scientists that were part of this meeting here i mean is this is this a little out of character and if you when you it's been building i was actually in vancouver at the meeting and i just got scientists have been concerned for a while but it just seems to keep getting worse rick santorum for example the things that he says george w. bush didn't see these kinds of things are right and scientists were concerned about george bush but he never called global warming a hoax since when is taking it to another level oh i thought it was just one of them right and we really see this happening on a mass scale and so let's talk about the way that you think that now we're seeing citizens united you know money start to influence this debate but money is a big factor because you've got corporate interests who disagree with certain aspects of science and the republicans are in their camp and you also have religious interests you've got to weigh those as well santorum represents both so he denies evolution he denies global warming and you know you just going down the list both of them i think are above and it's also i think a real radical free market libertarian ideology the. is fueling
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a lot of gore saying you know the religious argument i think is a lot of the time where you can definitely pinpoint on great santorum we're talking about the fact that it might be big business involved this is what this could be the oil companies they don't necessarily want to invest in alternative energy or who's missing pick everything all companies any thoughts of fuel companies is going to drop its price status quo i don't actually think that's changing a little bit i actually think that it's partly corporate interests if you talk about the global warming partly corporate interest but also this increased really radical free market ideology that doesn't want the government to do anything they just want to go it alone and not really have a safety net not really have environmental regulations that's the tea party and so here is i gather the attack so you see towards the e.p.a. . everywhere you can you pointed out one of the things i thought was interesting though when i was reading from you know what was discussed at this conference vancouver is that the scientist said oh you know we should've seen this one coming we didn't we didn't think there would be this hard why didn't they see it coming
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well scientists have always kind of wanted to just do their research and stay in their labs and teach their students and get their grants and what they're realizing is difficult for their shows because politicians are trampling all over their expertise and they're really not going to take it anymore they're getting a lot tougher they're going to be better communicators but they don't know really how to deal with the rough and tumble of politics and since when is demagoguing this in a way that we have not seen yet american politics but is it just i mean you know there's always they're also perhaps some dirty games and evolve here too you know because some of the reports will say outside organizations the ones that don't technically support a certain candidate right that a certain candidate isn't supposed to have any affiliation with that they'll be ghostwriting scientific articles to raise you know doubts about government research and they'll try to undermine the use of science to form government policy that they will try to you know ruin the reputation of some scientists out there there's a network of think tanks were really funded by corporate interests partly funded by
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ideological right wing libertarian interests that are going around attacking. so ok and they're going around sowing doubt they're going around spreading misinformation and they're very effective at it because all you have to do is get your echo chamber to repeat this and it bubbles up in the republican candidates repeated in the nation's polarized about whether global warming is even true of the scientific community is really so all right so then how do you fix that right you have to assume the education is one place to start but at the same time you know you have to fight with i guess with commercials and with these organizations that are pushing against any kind of government reform it's really tough because now the fight is going to educational level that's the new strategy is to change what kids are taught so that they're not taught accurate global warming just like there's an attack on teaching evolution for a long time now they're going to tap into your global warming so we're going to have to fight in a bunch of different states all of which are going to teach it differently and we're going to be fighting people in the grassroots level state after state over what kids are even taught so they're going to block us there it's going to there's about to be some other you know there's has to be some creative solution we're talking about you know some of the smartest people in the world are gathering at
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this math and science conference that are doing research coming up with things i could never even dream of and you know and i feel like they have to have more creative solutions to how to get people to pay attention well what they're doing is they're actually studying this is what scientists are good at science of communication and they're actually sort of understand why the messages are getting through and they're realizing that beating people over the facts doesn't work because the reason this resistance occurs is actually emotional and people are really threatened by the idea that oh my god my libertarian ideology is wrong. we do need the government to solve this massive global problem of climate change and so that's why they reject science so once we figure out actually what the what the source of the resistance is we're going to get around it. sounds like if it's really a motions that are driving this from people here i guess you could say their ideology which i think government you know be it a fear that perhaps some of the religious ideology that they believe is going the other way i mean it almost sounds like the science community is now trying to apply
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fear when they when they're saying of the problem is so bad. i'm scared for the future and you know we have no idea how it's turning out the scientific community is actually really afraid of global warming really afraid and you don't hear that much from scientists they like to because they don't like to share their emotions we haven't done anything it just keeps getting worse. if they can scare one else into it i guess although i don't really think here is the best option and thanks so much for joining us tonight chris good to be with you. here member that infamous video of n.y.p.d. pepper spraying young girls in the first weeks of the occupy wall street movement in new york and i want your video taken by somebody in the crowd but viral spread across the internet and the t.v. like wildfire and led to an n.y.p.d.
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investigation and also prompted the victims of a pepper spray salt to file a lawsuit against the department and we've seen amateur video after amateur video of police officers behaving badly during entre five protests and assuming we can thank our smartphones for being able to capture to try and hold the police accountable b.c. police departments are finding a way to fight back to make sure the story gets told from their perspective and not the people in the crowd several police departments across the country including those in cincinnati and oakland are starting to require their officers to wear cameras the next time you talk to a police officer smile and this is just the beginning in fact just today the tourist police where company taser announcing they will be launching a new line of wearable cameras meant for police and that's part they can go right on your oakley's so sorry but it kind of just makes me laugh a little i'm still going to film you but still a cool the same time now the new taser camera bills itself as a win win for both affiliates and the people who web site know it's
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a camera held from partners because u.s. law enforcement spends approximately twenty billion in settlements each year to resolve claims it improves the behavior of all parties during police interactions and it reduces complaints and lawsuits by accurately capturing video from officers perspective now as i mentioned earlier. boys departments are buying the pitch openers one of the first apartments issue cameras to its officers to increase accountability after all the department is facing a federal overtake this march but several complaints of already been made the officers aren't hitting their cameras on this is a video that was produced by jacob crawford and journalist allie winston from footage obtained during the january twenty eighth demonstration included activists attempts to break into city hall. so it's clear that even if police are given the tools to record and monitor their
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actions and yours not all of them are that keen on doing it don't forget that in three states it's actually still illegal for you to feel the police while they now have all the technology on their side to just keep that in mind taking a break will be right back. in the force of their desire to go if you're most go talk stories not of the size of the u.s. proposed to pull strings of the syrian.

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