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brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you can you got me to say i do listen now first i respond to the viewer who seems to think that i'm biased charles gabriel tweeted that as if you want to show other than the obvious that we agree on regarding muslims why do you defend them more than anyone else are you muslim so first of all no i'm not muslim but i do believe very strongly in the civil liberties of everybody in this country rights and protections that are guaranteed by the constitution so if it seems like i do and muslims in the united states more than others that's probably because they clearly become the biggest scapegoat and most targeted at any group within the us right now about the government and sometimes the media that's nothing new nothing new there's always a group that singled out and vilified what the japanese economy has now as the muslims are considered terrorists so every day there's a new story of surveillance of muslim communities all over the country as i discussed earlier in the show just this week came out of the n.y.p.d. was monitoring muslim. students all over the know ne for no reason at all other
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than them being muslim so i don't need to be muslim to understand someone's needs to speak out against the scapegoating of an entire population and a violation of their rights the next owner respond to a viewer who is just a sped up with the political coverage of the presidential election because i am hapax are commented on due to the mainstream media talks about the presidential campaign as if it were the super bowl seriously just listen to it and replace the candidates names with teams and you know what that is so true if you watch i mean three misstatements than you know they usually refer to the media's coverage of the election as the horse race i called out for sounding like commentators so i think that a super bowl comparison is just as valid but constant mindless banter and analysis when nothing has happened random sounds like your sports announcers pull out to fill their time it's all exactly the say this is the first quarterback to score a touchdown exactly five seconds after halftime in the fourth game of the season during leap year it almost sounds like the daily rundown now finally i want to
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respond to a viewer that watched my night last night quite lively happy hour we covered some very serious and thought provoking stories like whether or not a woman cracking in her butt in a russian gym mat is hot and whether or not an alien reptile has been implanted into president obama's head so i think progress just says to it is that is. yeah that makes me want to eat any walnut ever also pretty sure the alien reptile was born in kenya so yeah i'm kind of on the same page as you although i do have to say it would be an impressive feat for the. not really sure where it's all from but i just over the hilarious so if anyone out there is in need of a laugh just take five minutes out of your day to watch the video or to make sure to prove to post the full length on our facebook page and that's if my ranting tonight but i believe back with more as usual next week. now here on the show we've spent hour after hour day after day documenting the obama administration's vicious and aggressive war on whistleblowers from thomas drake to bradley manning who has
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been relentless and while those in the u.s. government and the u.s. media rally against wiki leaks. where leaked all those state department documents to the wiki leaks website is a traitor and should be executed or put in prison for life as you mean all classified information is now floating around the globe courtesy of the troops and this is fickle website which is based in sweden i'm up here to make a final judgment but to me new york times has committed an act of bad citizenship and whether they have committed a crime i think that there's very intensive inquiry by the justice department. now i've pointed out many times the while you might not agree with the methods of weekly leaks of the personality at intel legal attacks on this organization have impacts on journalists all across the country because guess what they to rely on government leaks take a case of james rising for example last spring the new york times writer and author of the book state of war was subpoenaed to testify at the trial of jeffrey sterling
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former central intelligence agency officer sterling was indicted in late two thousand and ten on ten felony charges relating to alleged disclosures to rising for his book state of war and a sense accused of leaking information about the u.s. efforts to sabotage the iranian nuclear program something which almost seems quiet now we have presidential candidates openly calling for offing iranian nuclear scientists arising was quote commanded to testify and the prosecution described him as an eye witness to serious crimes the crime being the leak of national security secrets now in july u.s. district court judge ruled that the new york times reporter did not identify his sources during the trial that cia officer jeffrey sterling but the government isn't taking no for an answer they've now formally appealed that decision so now in response a coalition of twenty nine news organizations could into new york times a.p. newsweek and bloomberg are all coming to rise in defense they filed an abacus brief yesterday to ask the u.s.
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court of appeals for the fourth circuit to conclude that a so-called reporter's privilege applies to rise in and rule. the government and the british point out that countless major news stories are broken in the past several decades as a result of leaks from the pentagon papers to the abuses at abu ghraib so that's a move that i think we need to applaud because journalists have to stick together they have to defend each other fight for their rights that they want to be able to keep the public informed without fearing government backlash but even here we have to remember that there's obviously some picking and choosing going on because after all the same new york times that used leaks from wiki leaks and yet later turned against them because the obama administration's war on leakers continues everybody should be on guard because as this case points out not even journalists are safe. now we often talk about the increasing use in reliance on unmanned aerial vehicles or drones used by our military our cia our law enforcement agencies and soon to be coming with the approval of domestic drone use in the u.s. media organizations commercial companies who knows who else the issues of legality
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the ethics of chilling with the push of a button privacy concerns all these things need to be addressed as we head into a more automated world but it doesn't just stop with drones what technologies might we see next but about robots that care for the younger the elderly that may take over certain jobs are questions that we have to answer as a society before going full throttle and the next frontier joining me from our studio in new york is dr peter s.r.o. co-founder of the international committee for robot arms control and assistant professor at the new school peter thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess first it's a start with a broader question you know where do you think we are in terms of the developed if you want to call this a revolution of getting to the point where maybe we've become really dependent on on these machines. well we're certainly in a moment where there's been a great deal of very rapid robotic developments over the last decade both in terms of the military capabilities especially but in specific cases of vision systems and
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the control systems of these smaller flying robots now really makes that possible and affordable for civilian drones and hobbyists to build their own drones but as well for the for the military to field large numbers of military drones but those are still primarily remote controlled and remote operated so there's a human being controlling the system somewhere along the line and what we're seeing in development now is this movement towards more autonomous systems and systems that control themselves without any kind of heat direction and control and so you know taking that into account if you i know that you've been focusing a lot on the military and their use of drones lately or the cia to the unfortunate thing is that we haven't really gotten to that point where we've had an honest discussion about the legality of it about the ethics of it a lot of it you can say is probably thanks to the fact of the cia doesn't like to publicly talk about their drone program and so do you what are the biggest you know
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questions that need to be answered there before we even move on to not just something that's unmanned that someone else is controlling but who is the point where you know it controls itself. yeah well the nature of these systems is that they allow people to operate from very great distance and that allows them to reduce the risks and sort of personal bodily danger but it also allows them to obscure their identities of the way that anonymous can cyber attack from a long distance now we can use these weapons to really attack from from a long distance and that then allows a lot of invisibility in obscurity as to who is really conducting those operations so the cia is using that. to conduct operations where we don't really know even whether it's a military operation or a cia operation and there's no but if it was a military operation there would be sort of international laws the geneva conventions for instance that would allow was to be able to hold certain people
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responsible if they were committing atrocities or war crimes but with the cia program that's that's all very obscure and the u.n. special reparatory were first extrajudicial execution has requested. that that they have more transparency there just that we can even you know try to apply existing international law in terms of the autonomous systems there's not and their use in official military activities and there's no specific laws against there are laws against indiscriminate and disproportionate use of weapons and targeting of civilians and so if those systems failed to meet those requirements they would be illegal so there is a resistance to really implementing some of those but. i think what we really need is an international treaty and an international agreement that really codify. our
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world agreement that we don't want autonomy systems deciding who lives and that it's ok for a plane to fly itself but it's not ok for a plane to decide what to shoot. i think about it's a very good point because it's even scary to me now that you have somebody deciding from thousands and thousands of miles away and how do you think this changes to once we get into arguments to airspace as i mentioned the president recently just signed this bill which means that in a couple of years they have to open up the skies huge domestic drone use and i'm sure it's going to be media organizations we know the law enforcement wants to use that it might help them find missing people or you know survey a certain area but there are privacy concerns here too. yeah i mean there's a broad range of concerns safety being first and foremost and there are elements of the f.a.a. bill that address the need to develop safe ways to integrate the system but then there's this mandate that by september two thousand and fifteen that the f.a.a.
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has to have in place now the regulations to allow these unmanned systems to fly in civilian airspace along with passenger airliners and things like that which in dangerous people who are in those planes as well as people on the ground but it has no real it doesn't address in any way the privacy issues and the f.a.a. has a mandate in a sense to protect people in the air and on the ground and they've taken that is primarily a safety protection but i believe you can interpret the law and the a.c.l.u. has been arguing that you can interpret the law to cover the protection of privacy of individuals who are on the ground insofar as people have a certain expectation of privacy based on you know the architecture of our homes our yards and fences and things that we don't expect people to be you know looking at us from above or flying over our fence and looking in our windows and that we should have certain kinds of protections in that regard and then there's
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a question of you know who's collecting this data and on what basis and and how are they able to collect track that keeps who owns that data whether it's the government or the police who are collecting information about suspects in criminal investigations or whether it's private companies who are collecting data about the movement in locations of individual people their daily habits and behaviors. you know everything that you sort of do on the internet that's being tracked now imagine that all that could be tracked as you go out into the physical world. oh that's really very assuring you know all really important things to take into account all things that i think we need to force you know the government and the f.a.a. to actually publicly debates and you know it's show us they're going to try to safeguard but you know i guess because it gets kind of scary it's exciting and scary with all these new developments and technology that we have but i make sure i
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guess that we don't rush into that peter thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you for having me. we're going to take our last break of the evening which was back bill o'reilly things that we should go easy on rick santorum for his insane comments he's are told time warner and i'm happy hour for you as the most disliked face of the union your jealousy anybody and scientists are working on a pill that could erase the most traumatic memories. of people calling like you said for free and fair elections. and they're still reporting from the planet earth as you can hear behind me loud explosions that lead. me to. the.
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a guy that signed for tonight's full time award and tonight it goes to fox news host bill o'reilly so last night bill stopped by the tonight show with jay leno and they dove into the topic of republicans getting their hands dirty on social issues when leno asked o'reilly why republicans care what happens in people's bedrooms when it was all risers wants but i think we want to president would not that involved and if you didn't blow up the social stuff the person would be in your judgment so it's that's not what america wants i mean this whole you know. folks
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are so good but then o'reilly decided to rick santorum needed the knight in shining armor for defend his numerous insane statements. but you get drawn into a few things you can mention past comments everybody is still be past comments you know look at you and me i mean we're right nobody's wardrobe because of me but i literally for example i think. so according to o'reilly fentora evans is made from dopey carbon we need a cut of the slack i mean really i find a little hard to cut fentora slack here bill the thing is i'm breaking you i don't mind these comments just the blunders that misrepresent where stand stand on the issues i think of the so-called dopey comments actually say a lot about rick santorum and the kind of president he would be but if i remember right i'm pretty sure there was one thing that our riley did put his foot down on should religion play such a big role in politics i think people should define their release you know why they believe what they believe if you're running for president i think you should do that but i don't think you should be seen with my religion is better than yours so
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it's all right so they shouldn't be saying my religion is better than yours well then it's a good thing if there are any muslim candidates or this clip will be pretty damning for santorum unlike islam where the higher board the civil are the same in our case we have civil laws but our civil laws have to comport with the higher law. our civil laws have to and that's why the issue of abortion as long as abortion is legal at least according the supreme court legal in this country we will never have rest because that law does not comport with god's law. right so having the civil and higher laws be the same is terrible want to provide is law but desirable when applied to christianity but i'm pretty sure that is not in thing you waiting to christianity is better than islam i'm sure you would never say that right so let's kind of a little bit of slack here and from like then tom's religious beliefs but affect his policies in any way. it's about some. some
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fully the knowledge oh no you know the base of the bible. as creatures of god to be going over the earth to use it wisely and steward wise that's for our benefit not for the earth spending i've never really been the hopes of global warming the scientists aren't so santorum led his religion dictate his stance on environmental issues but don't worry guys because i'm sure that that's just an isolated issue right after all that's or doesn't think the government should tell you what to do. when you remove. our god given right. as a government that will tell you how you're more our national do and when you do. what ok so i guess but when it comes to contraception then he doesn't think that it's that big of a bad about that out of a deal take
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a look. he said well that's ok. so it's not ok it's a license to. do things in the section six rounds that is counter to what. just the right approach is to is to accept this horribly created in the sense of of rape but nevertheless gift and end of it all right now or contraception right but how lovely contraception is dangerous and rape pretty gifts from god an equal contraception is allowed into the scenario you know bill i've tried really really hard to get some santorum some slack but it's not that easy when he says all these crazy things and maybe i just need to take some lessons from you about giving people the benefit of doubt people said i said black i didn't know one of that audience that i've talked a lot we love yet it is a little blurry i look at a very close and it is i me tell you if you were not. no i just can't do
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this i know that santorum means all of those things that he says those things would actually affect the way that he would run our country so i'm not to be cutting santorum and slack any time soon but for letting him off the hook for his offensive and insane comments bill o'reilly is tonight's told time when. i got time for happy hour joining me this evening archie producer jenny churchill and medicine roll calls are heard on the hill reporter the ladies. let's talk about the t.s.a. right everybody loves to hate on the g.s.a. nobody really likes them and so when this story came out last year about how much money they were taking in from this change i think that it really pissed everyone off to look. the transportation security administration is a raking in some pretty pennies t.s.a.
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officials say they collected more than four hundred nine thousand dollars in loose change left by passengers last year are enough a lot of money and so some of these actually now represent of jeff miller bringing up a bill saying about money could be better used by the u.s. troops and not going to the t.s.a. would you say i'm all for keeping that money away from the t.s.a. and putting it basically i think it's good to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars of everyone's loose change and. professional development goals can be reached i don't know your out better way yet you feel you mean i will stand by the fact but i think this only became but the feeling of thing only became a big deal when it happened everybody nobody cared and it was the grounds but here is what but it made me want to start collecting my change is that a weird reaction to have like looked over and i was like i will start saving my pipe well you never know what it might but it might add up to a couple hundred grand millions of dollars. all right let me just take it out to
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talk about my states where i grew up in california pretty awesome and the commercials basically tell it to. the bottom line of misconceptions about california that many. people are all surfers or celebrities the role of yoga. everyone's a winery or. we play. again. all right so public policy polling did a study and i basically asked people to rate states by popularity and i don't get it because california ranked last and so my assumption here is that just has to be jealousy because california has everything to operate has the beach it has the mountains it has the desert it's gorgeous great food great rather like what you guys really need yeah exactly yes i was on your side to say you know what really i
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was on your side this morning i thought my server i'm picking on california and then i had to listen to you explain how wonderful california was for about five minutes and i literally was like where. people who chose to do it i know d.c. is not a state but i got all excited i was scrolling down play very l.a. oh where's. like the most hated place it would obviously have been california like because we're the. virginia was like in the top five number one was. it wasn't part of high in colorado tennessee the south dakota people like south dakota overqualified oh you're going to get all those south dakota yours are going to let me say you know there was actually. the nation was saying that a lot of conservatives see california as kind of where all the evil comes from the only woodley's all the pot smoker is also where ronald reagan was. and i mean you
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know mine is very good when it's convenient yeah. ok let's move out of them without getting in georgia i don't know where georgia ranks on this list of popular states but obviously we've seen a lot of crazy stuff going on with these insane bills you know that are trying to with limit abortions now we have this crazy one in virginia and so we've spoken about some of the counter measures that people are trying to introduce but i kind of like this one coming legislator in georgia take a look. this bill has been drafted for all women who have the wherewithal to choose a song where mention the same pressure and invasion of privacy their women race for years. all right so what this bill would do exactly is it would ban the practice of male sterilization except in cases where a man faces serious health risks with out what. are you being a good idea i love that woman i have to say i like her she's like this is what you
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put us through and i want you to know. i mean it's a natural right to her like i was over a period man by sarah leighton well you know i was like that if you really mean it was reading castration. you know. i mean if you i she makes a very funny point and i appreciate it do you think it's a real bill that what if you know she was salut lee is proposing this well i mean there's been all kinds of bills and amendments like that where it's like if that passed that would be insane. people brought out but you know certain different provisions and measures to try to make them stand out a little tension to them and you know rightly so are possibly covered under health care and that's a really good question and we should explore that further. are you going to have a bit of a big question joining me tonight that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning it as a cue to come back tomorrow we're going to keep the jane hamsher the founder of firedoglake
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building and. i've seen interrogations go on ten twelve hours they chose songs i remember from marilyn manson and metallica slayer the two songs would be angel of death and raining blood to kill the enemy cause they were coming up here into iraq the. charlie poole of the body sort of for which the rock n roll band was fitting for the job we were doing. sure is that so much different if you can finish it on the mark with paradoxes contradictions and you're right is the drumbeat towards war now inevitable as the chattering classes discuss the possible date.
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