combs nothing. in music. during the vietnam war americans force with only by military power the supreme one may could not win with conventional weapons to learn. in order to defeat the viet cong psychological operations like spots like the treatment counted on musically wolf and to tip the scales we had tanks with loudspeakers the one we had jeeps of loudspeakers we had aircraft they could fly over with loudspeakers and we had men that actually put the last because on the back they had little packs that they would and they would just walk right into the jungle and they would play it. the americans once it's a beach the vietnamese with military might but at the same time with math hearts and minds before they commissioned pro-american songs to win the movie. but when the vietcong intensified very tight the u.s. military strategy change from now on the aris sounds poured out of the backpack

speech because. her. is it the knees have a tradition that if you don't die close to home you know very close to home your soul will wander forever so the americans actually use that started a campaign called the wandering soul and we produced tapes that had funeral music funeral dirge a very sad music and in the background you had a voice of a dead father telling his daughter is right he wasn't coming home he was going to wander forever and it was used to attempt to demoralize the soldiers they were.

there is no evidence whether the psychedelic sounds great ever convinced any viet cong to give up fighting the u.s. lost war never the list. today the u.s. military uses music as a weapon much more deliberately and affectively chris has flown to london he wants to meet a man who was arrested as an alleged terrorist in pakistan in two thousand and two . we're going to go meet mose in baghdad who was actually educated me who was held in one chinaman. so this is the first china i'm really going to meet someone who might actually have

been exposed to music can use this part of interrogation and what better way to learn about a pension when first. on the night of thirty first in china two thousand and two there was a knock on my door i open the door a group of people into my house one point to come straight to my head pushed me on to the fourth quarter of my house they tied my hands behind my back shackled my legs and put a hood over my head and carried me to the back of the vehicle in front of my life and kids. wants them bakers' the purser such as it was in two thousand and one he moved to pakistan with his family he says he went there to build a school for girls. but u.s. authorities have accused more and some beggar of having worked for al qaeda and the taliban over three years they kept him prisoner in baghdad. one time. during his

time he was interrogated three hundred times. indium the authorities released her without. that moment i was handed over to u.s. military custody is when the mistreatment began it began being thrown on the floor shackled punched clothes ripped off dogs barking at me and this kind of thing happen happened a gram did it happen it went on a movie well the treatment in guantanamo i would say was move torturous and torture us. nonetheless. extended periods of periods of isolation in kuantan i'm aware of the what destroyed people's minds there have been of course that's in kuantan of people still maintain that what's happening to the people over there is a form of torture but it is not the physical type of torture that we had but right now so i want to get back to the music why do you think that they picked music as

part of this mix in this situation clearly it was purely it's the story and the enemy as it were they chose songs i remember from marilyn manson and metallica and i suppose i had the privilege will be. the best comfort to them to know the difference because you know these songs from having grown up in the u.k. i knew these songs very well i listened to many of them avoided many of the others nonetheless i knew the difference sadly many of the prisoners they didn't to them it was all western music and this was just another addition to what must have been a barrage of of of western attitudes western influence western culture to the senses but again the only thing that they had seen of america was this the only thing that they had seen was the occupation was the present and now the music which

was being used. as a technique to. in addition to being short shackled because your hands tied to your legs in addition to being dehumanised being shaped forcibly to being removed from your home and from your environment now you're subjected to you're silent your ears are subjected to the sounds of something that is entirely unfamiliar very disconcerting very disorienting can play very well the music was so loud that everybody in the block would hear it none of us could sleep is music really that bad compared to say water boarding or being forced into a position or kept to wait for days why is music in particular. considered torture i think that. one may argue and say music is not that bad but it's not just music it's not music isolated by itself cannot produce made to go and sit and simply list put on headphones and listen up and measure and control the sound and the decibels

of how much they listen to they are in addition to being tied being shackled being beaten and tortured and confide in addition to all of this they are being subjected to not just ordinary music it's music the you if i was to subject you or anybody i think the average person to turn on the music extremely loud. just for a few minutes i pretty i'm pretty certain you would be saying that i can't hear myself think and that's the precise point because if you can't himself think you can't think if you can't think you have no control of your senses and have no control you senseless you are for all intents and purposes a completely. vegetative person and that's the point person put somebody in a almost in an almost vegetative state where they are simply ready to say anything comply with anything. only so that the music and it turned out.

music and torture music and war at the university of go think that it was such great deals with precisely these issues. the history of music and warfare is as old as the history of warfare itself. in ancient times troops use drums and trumpets to transmit signals on the

battlefield in the sixteenth century the sounds inspired marches charts and battle song but early on military leaders realize that music is especially good at strengthening the esprit de corps. particular forms of music particularly singing and we knew them to be very very effective and it comes to reinforce a group solidarity for example. during the german empire trails like songs like old comrades was used to motivate the troops. but it wasn't just him even parties and the insolence of bottles but it was only of maintaining some kind of discipline i give them and beat to promote power and hatred adults hitler was aware of the psychological effects of music therefore he centralized music production in germany i mean months after he

came to power to better control what his people listen to i. i i it was one of the most systematic approach is to really utilizing music and every possible aspect and of public and political life. like that i think for established the so-called right music chamber this is already produced only nazi compliant music propaganda included war mongering songs like from finland to the black sea. chief propagandist joseph goebbels commission for song from stuff the emotional power of music helped convict the blood lust of the germans. he's won't talk a lot i. even during the war the

firma try to keep up morale through writing songs like the panzer leader. and even in defeats music had its purpose to provide comfort and a way to escape reality. then a depressing mixture of war and everyday life the soldiers here have to cope with

boredom and a constant fear of attacks music as a way to escape from all of this or most everyone here has a portable cd player or an ipod they download their music off the internet. to them it's like a drug a way to unwind or to get ready for the next bonfire. and the city's down here with me and i'm content i'm peaceful because i have this this and also sort of but at least i'm all set down on music and i'm happy. like like me. never mel i'll. have to get through the day slayer. to be angel again and raining blood just to see if. i like and keep him motivated. you see there you go again and then you've got a good song playing in the background. that take you to.

the floor. this is the one we listen to the most this is the one we travel we. always hear more coming up here into iraq. it was just it was fitting for the. bodies. could be considered the unofficial. the christopher wants to meet for a different reason music was also used as

a tool to prison that's. just as upset about this as he is today plays next to one of the largest naval bases in the united states but there is a problem. actually i'm a little nervous about this interview because we got an email this morning from drowning pool's manager saying that they weren't supposed. to ask. and after all that's why i came here so how can i possibly find out what i want. he said this music charts. prisoners if we're not allowed to talk about.

absolutely crazy. it's a problem usually it's everything you think about. oh yeah. maybe when. he sees the lord i actually feel like i'm not people do. he went on a different side of let's. just curious you guys have a lot of military fans too these guys never show you why they like your music so much what we hear from guys you know that tori in different fields or what have you gals and gals they said yeah i just get some get some on i told you know marriage i say they actually play it before they have to go on to be actually all that wire and. i pods and so on and some publications and this but they did show me how to do

it and i'll think it's rock out and you know and that sense while they're actually well to do yeah i don't like to hear the unofficial make a soundtrack of the military i would say that but i mean guys you know if they're in their home be either tank you know them wanted and their crews in and there's six of them you know that strap a boom box down and a guy up there you know looking out is there cruising you know i always wanted to know if they ever if you actually if i were if i would fly around the beach or something like now you know i mean let's not get too carried away i was a nobody was thinking this song as a. in the soundtrack no matter what but at the same time if if cranking us to eleven you know keeps you alert and on your toes and gets you back done from your mission and name thusly back home to your wives and family and kids then by all means might last that day i mean if he's going to keep you and your guys and your girls awake until four five six in the morning then by all means jack is there

anything political about your music at all the thinker or is it just great rock n roll your younger music is not political at all honestly i mean with our song soldiers which is kind of a thank you and hats off to our military and every country's military for it centrally you know the end result have been you know peace within the day trying to keep the peace you know it sucks that you have to go to work the peace but you know that's this is you know it's where it's been through history you know it's me going through a tree down. i mean you can argue all day you know should somebody be somewhere should we be you know the world police you know and you know there's a lot of things that we all feel strongly about you know separately within the band there's things that we feel very firm on collectively oh we have politically driven band i don't think anybody who knows who we are i would i honestly think that we are and i mean we're just a rock n roll band i don't want to put you in a position you don't want to answer you right whatever but here parents when the

when the government uses the music say with detainees instead of. help our own military do you feel the same or better yet know how that was used you know yeah for interrogation and we jokingly say you know about us listen to our music every day this is going to be something you're interested you know we well we put crowds through that sort of push or all that's right it's always ourselves or whatever that we shouldn't joke like never with us or again are going to be quiet.

music's as a stimulant a torch a tool and now also as an acoustic alteration one example the battle of fallujah in iraq. in two thousand and four among pledged four american security contractors president bush found reviving our military commanders will take whatever action is necessary and just secure felicia on behalf of the iraqi people. what followed was one of the filesystem bloodiest battles of the iraq war over four thousand people died in the seven months struggle street fighting was drooling from both sides to break the resistance obviously missed and such as the u.s. military began to employ mobile speaker systems. were the perfect example they were just playing music day and night over there it almost got to be a gag like at like

a musical show the loudspeakers were playing music and of course the. and the insurgents who were in fallujah a playback they from their mosque a loud speakers on a bus they played music back they played various religious music. heavy metal against islamist. it was a little slow i demonstrate the perceived superiority of western culture the u.s. military believes that the musical bombardment helps on the mind the mirage of the insurgents the psychological war operations and our except at the point where ever you want to board for so if you have what's three or four groups going in with a deeper tie and the reds report of a game in a certain area each of those units night call for a team and then that will come down here in fort bragg will be tasked with we're

sending a loud speaker king so it there's much more command. the technology of these loudspeakers is becoming more and more sophisticated the laces mobiles all compact powerful sound cams they can bust ear drum schools nausea and can even make people unconscious vitamin c. medium builds these acoustic morhaime and. it's a powered loud speaker that works at very long distances with perfect clarity that is no but in dorm allows speaker does. it makes it more intelligible. it makes it less outer. but it throws it farther. in the. business is brisk every day dozens of these small high performance speakers are

assembled into large sound cams chemicals that knock out the enemy not with bullets but with sensory overload what's scary is not just that looks. it's like it's here. how is that possible if i brought in for all that you so i blindfolded you and they turned you around and they said tell me where the sound is coming from you would be confused that's what makes our device very helpful in the military back in september two thousand and nine and t g twenty summit protesters in pittsburgh witnessed the effect of most of a similar system. was.

about three years we will change the way wars are for we will change the way aggression is created to subdue somebody and it probably will be one of the last efforts that we make because we will figure that by that time that the vice should the need to kill. the proud inventor is naturally not of liberty to tell us what the super sound cannons look like platts top secret but doubts may be raised whether his sound gone mood really spell the end of all wars. people will still die from bullets and bombs but music will increase the arsenal of modern nominees with yet another insidious

welcome. music is just part of an effort to make you lose your identity make you lose your confidence making you. malleable and it's taking away their self-control your self-esteem almost. if somehow my song i stop them from using my song i'd feel that i'd done

something moral and good perhaps if they would use somebody else's song if all of us stop them from using song. then they would use noise and if you stop noise they would do something else the real issue is not to me music but it is. torture. not necessarily the music itself that is such a weapon it's music as part of a means of controlling the environment and the person in charge if they can control someone's environment and taken their free will away from police and that's a very powerful weapon.

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