more money in january than campaigns themselves who's really running for president the g.o.p. candidates are getting a billionaire's also will we see a brokered convention in the republican party and could third party candidate make a splash come november more on those topics and more into nights alone liberal rondell and inside the daily take how has corporate america created a nation of drug addicts. you need to know this beat the two thousand and twelve republican candidates for president no not these guys they're just the front men i'm talking about these guys . he's the guys actually running to control the office of the presidency of the united states you don't need to know the names in fact you don't want to they don't want you to know their names but these are the faces behind the super pacs those

opaque front groups that were created by the supreme court's citizens united decision and through them millionaires and billionaires and corporations even foreign corporations that pay three hundred bucks to open a u.s. branch and spend unlimited amounts of money to build up or destroy the political candidates of their choice want proof that it's the super pacs running for control of the white house and not people like romney or santorum last month the super pacs actually raised more money than the candidates did themselves in january the individual campaigns of romney santorum gingrich and paul raked in two point one million dollars at the super pac supporting these candidates beat that raising twenty two point one million dollars and that doesn't even include other right wing super pacs karl rove's american crossroads g.p.s. it's on its way to raising over one hundred million dollars but hasn't yet started spending it in a big way so it isn't so far seen as affiliated with a candidate and unlike campaign contributions to which people can only donate

twenty five hundred dollars there's no limit for super pacs so the average donation last month was a whopping sixty three thousand dollars that's almost three times more money and the media american earns in a year and sorry but that's just pocket change compared to what the big go to the actual folks running through the control the white house are jumping into super pacs let's take for example ron paul his name is on the ballot but the millionaire behind ron paul is a man named peter thiel hedge fund manager who gave more than one point seven million dollars to ron paul's super pac endorse liberty last month his donation accounted for seventy percent of all of ron paul's super pac funds in january so vote for ron paul is a vote for wall street hedge fund manager superfit and. fund manager peter thiel then there's new gingrich energy is the name will be on the ballot except in virginia but the billionaire behind gingrich is this guy has seen owner shell the

needles who dished out ten million dollars just last month the gingrich is winning our future super pac accounting for ninety percent of all the donations so a vote for gingrich is actually a vote for can see you know because you know more will surely ableson well actually makes a lot is money outside the united states with casinos in macau and in china and hong kong and then there's rick santorum his name will be on the ballot bowl and all over google but the millionaires behind santorum who are actually running to control the white house or mutual thought executive foster freeze and oil and gas mogul william door o'connor for one point six million of the two point one million it's in farm super pac red white and blue fund raised in january so a vote for santorum is really a vote for freeze and door which brings us to mitt romney super pac restore our future dwarfs all of the other super pacs and fund raising raising thirty six point eight million dollars so far and unlike the other super pacs restore our future

spreads the wealth around doesn't rely on one sole funder instead it received six figure contributions from twenty five different people so a vote for romney is a vote for a whole slew of millionaires and billionaires most them from wall street a few from big oil and then there's this guy texas billionaire harold simmons he sort of a free agent simmons cut a five million dollars check to the karl rove affiliated super pac american crossroads g.p.s. which hasn't endorsed any candidate yet but will throw its treasure chest beat behind whoever comes out on top in the republican primary and considering that simmons has given over sixteen million dollars to karl rove's american crossroads and you may as well consider him one of the front running guys who will run the white house if the republicans win the republicans don't want you to pay any attention to the men and women behind the curtains they want you to just vote for the front man you think his past and believe that that front man will represent you

good luck on that. it's wednesday are you ready to rumble joining me on the panel for guys along liberal pete executive vice president with the national taxpayers union and will rock political reporter with the daily caller welcome to you both could see both let's get started it's no secret there's a growing level of discontent among conservatives would be. the impact shall we say that the group that i was talking about not their other billionaires but the people themselves there's even talk about a possible brokered convention chris christie and mitch daniels are being thrown around. here's an interesting statistic since one thousand nine hundred fifty two when prescott bush was elected in the us there have been fifteen republican presidential ballots how many other than last time more than two dozen hominy of those did not carry the name nixon dollar bush. fraction three four

one one one hundred sixty four goldwater miller it was the only one since nine hundred fifty two who didn't have one of those three and prescott was fifty two in fifty eight and the bushes were eighty eighty four eighty eight ninety two two thousand two thousand and four and so will be two thousand and twelve there's a lot of talk about you know they're going to roll jeb. he's he speaks spanish he's he's articulate he's a guy that popular governor of florida actually is yeah and he's the guy that they were going to put out in two thousand and karl rove blew that up much to the chagrin of the bush family well and former governors of course kerry that kind of cost that they were in charge of an entire economy somebody like mitch daniels has really high marks for fiscal stewardship maybe that's what ticket needs sort of if it's going to be iraq has a lot of negatives he's got a lot of people who dislike him and i'm not sure that always issue and they all have a lot of people who dislike them i mean a lot of able to fly christie but is is very popular in new jersey i think i mean

you're definitely right that there's a sense it's kind of always been there that this isn't the republican party's a team you could say this may be kind of a b. team but look at all these candidates who are up right now they have their merits mitt romney had a very successful tenure as governor of massachusetts. care system good liberal like yeah yeah. you know they these are you know then to his credit by the way that health care system was first proposed in one thousand nine hundred eighty three by richard nixon and the romney care version is almost identical to nixon and obamacare is almost identical to nixon care as well yeah and they can't really run away from it which is one thing that conservatives still have a problem right so i guess over and over like the cost per. health care i think they all have don't think of that was that was the whole selling point for that one examiner point was this on romney claims he has notes and yeah he is coming from

a guy. you proposed wage and price controls and sent the economy on the state good sales spend the next it was a nixon was using were all keynesians now yeah he said no keynesian he wasn't actually a good keynesian and he wasn't right wage and price controls are not keynes ok but it would be a democrat you know so so what do you think about the chances of a brokered convention skit is a seriously hurt all the time goes to a debate when you look at the polling numbers of how many people want anyone but romney and then of course when they look at santorum well the same thing as happened with with rick perry you know these guys get into prominence for a while but you don't start getting it on the other hand you look at the number of people who are participating in the republican primaries in these states and it's like nine hundred people seven hundred people you know thirty eight thousand people it's it's such a small slice of the republican party maybe you guys have got nothing to worry about from a. brokered convention is still i mean it's extraordinarily unlikely that system is

kind of built to avoid things like that you think and yes there's really no resurrection if i mean by you know there hasn't been a while and see how that works i mean there hasn't been a convention last time republicans went into a convention they didn't know the outcome i was seventy six i came down the mississippi delegation and reagan versus ford i don't think anybody is quite sure what that would look like even today but yeah neither if none of these guys can you know maybe ron paul becomes king. i guess possible so they had a very effective operation in which you delegates left and right which could bring about so i was speaking of all this buddy roemer the former governor of louisiana who was running as a republican has decided he's still a republican but he's not going to be running for president of the republican ticket instead he's throwing to the citizens elect thing so this is a like is this are americans like rather is this shadowy group was put together by a bunch of hedge fund managers and billionaires and wall street we still don't know all of them. they're hiding behind total secrecy they've raised twenty two million

dollars their own fourteen states ballots including california they say they've got enough money to get all fifty states on their website they're promoting mayor bloomberg might give you a clue who's behind this thing and and mitch daniels. and then they're saying that they their executive committee and we don't know who these people are that they're going to have a national vote and whoever wins the vote is going to be the candidate and they're going to put their candidate up as a third party candidate but if he's active committee doesn't like who they vote for and odds are i'd think of an internet poll would probably to be ron paul or bill say no not going to that person and they'll put up their own their own and there's a lot of talk about it being a bloomberg somebody ticket. isn't this evidence the just the existence of this thing more evidence that we're not we're not a democracy anymore were plutocracy it's an oligarchy we've got a bunch of billionaires who are creating a political party just for the purpose of putting a billionaire up as

a candidate not so sure that i don't think roemer necessarily has much credibility i mean is there a chance of the third party and independent challenges even well financed ones i think have a salutary effect on our so-called two party system ralph nader for example does a good job keeping the democratic party intellectually honest promoting debates within the parties corroded that somewhat with the republicans but actually split some of those votes libertarians do that with republicans too i think these are healthy things that i don't think this is a third party this is you know there's no ideology here third parties come out of ideology that is coming out of twenty two billion dollars from a bunch of billion the ideology is centrist that's what they're advocating for the looking for a candidate they're looking for like the tom friedman fantasy k.o.a. you tom friedman's a billionaire who's a pitch man for billionaires time friedman is nothing more than a corporate shill the mayor tom gallagher of times if you believe in yeah well. i

don't know about our rights i mean that's a centrist third party movement that's probably going to be not all that effective and it's i mean it's largely innocuous you think there's like a conspiracy here like a like some plutocrat. you know. for lack of a better of late like a little burg i mean mike bloomberg so pretty centrist guy he's a very he's buying for the billionaires i mean it can cost him seventy seven dollars a vote when there are well it has got lot of money you know so i guess they're going to say well right what will continue that this will actually get into the maybe some debate and stick around president obama's introducing a new corporate tax plan does it have any shot of making it through congress more rubble coming up after the break. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old until the truth. i

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along liberal rumbles and i'm joined by pete cept executive vice president actual taxpayers union and will ron political reporter with the daily caller welcome both

of you back tim geithner and bill president obama's corporate tax policy today and you tube corporations the united states effectively paid the fewest taxes among the thirty four we see didn't nations and when you add in bad taxes which are paid in most other nations we're waiting on our corporations are way way low and so we've got the top marginal tax rate thirty five percent but the amount of actual tax dollars pay is low is to me as his and i do because of the country sort of like the situation in. sixty when when john kennedy came along and said you know millionaires and billionaires like me don't pay taxes even those top tax rates ninety one percent so let's close some of these loopholes and drop the rate that's obama saying let's close loopholes drop the rate down to twenty percent twenty five percent specially for domestic manufacturers geez tax return last year one thousand feet high when you break down ninety five or going to twenty thousand pages yes they paid no taxes no taxes given that thirty of the fortune five hundred

corporations paid more last year to their lobbyists than they didn't taxes does this thing have a chance. there has to be some kind of common ground here and i think we're starting starting to reach it lot of flaws in obama's proposal but the philosophy of going forward is there on the base reduce the rates you're seeing active elop being among democratic members of congress ron wyden senator from oregon i k hagen senator from north carolina so will it happen in alexion year while i'm outside your favor of this i think this is a good plan i would love to see something that's not just revenue neutral this is revenue neutral i'd like to see some of that actually raises the corporate tax rates you know states up to something close maybe even thirty percent lower than the o.e.c.d. average i mean you know we're well well below fifty percent of what was so what is lowering the corporate tax rate just i would like the idea of some of the corporations that profit off the commons you know to better xterm allies in their

cause they're dumping pollution into our air that are making use of our education our educated citizens that are that are making use of our current system that are making use of our currency they're taking all these things that you and i are all paying for their tax dollars and then up in a damn penny towards it i'd like to mr payen some revenue neutrality though is still an open question in this land there are some analyses that suggest about two hundred fifty billion extra is going to be raised through this over ten years for that and you're the one that i want to cite over ten years is not a lot not huge but you put that also alongside some of his budget proposals you see the interaction of obama's budget tax proposals with this tax reform plan that's still being worked out and we may very well see but isn't he really putting republicans in a corner with this thing because he's basically saying ok you want to cut taxes cut taxes so i mean if you're saying this is like a blatantly political move probably you know it comes out first as romney releases

moves but i mean that's that's interesting time in our time that we have the nominees romney's plan would cut taxes on rich people and raise taxes on poor people and for precisely that whole planet. twenty percent across the board you know you want to raise you see you want to take the top it is a lot of x.-plane it's twenty five percent obama's twenty eight percent i mean you have a corporate tax plan i mean this is a main interest but it's interesting from a philosophical perspective a democratic president had a look at the you know as you're talking about a consensus developing that our corporate tax rate is just too high in interest making american corporations uncompetitive but it's not a little scale it's not there just get around it and that's that's why let's make it let's make it let's. leave in fact simplification to get our taxes going to the byzantine tax code yeah we could probably slim down other frigging consensus on this path but it's a horrible that will expose you face exploding right i could obviously i was in this play are lots of them let's talk about the occupy movement the koch brothers for a minute here the american legislative exchange council alec alec is this we're group

it's going to run for a couple of decades pretty much nobody knew about it until they got exposed largely by i think the center for american progress leaf on this research be they have these twice in your means where corporations pay tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to sit next to state legislators state senators and state representatives who pay anywhere from twenty five to one hundred bucks a membership dues and they're funded ninety percent of their total funding comes from corporations corporate trade groups and corporate foundations they sit around and come up with model legislation which the legislators and well over ninety percent republican take back to their states and inner duce everything from the arizona anti immigration law to that was constantia union laws to the you know the . people at the voter rolls the laws that disenfranchised people seems to me that this is alec is the poster child for corrupt corporate influence in our government there's no times to do so of about this i don't think this is any worse than what

the national conference of state legislatures scuzz that's a liberal or centrist counterpart they're funded i gather i don't. though their funding source i know from personal experience that some of the issues alec works on have been constitutional tax and budget reforms using article five to propose a convention of states to offer a balanced budget amendment and ratify it that's been a position they've taken for ten twenty years but work on that it's like it's like the republicans are constantly saying you know we need to make you know abortion illegal but when we get in power we're not going to do that because we need to yell about it next time around what alec is really do i know is is putting forward legislation this disenfranchising democrat that he's a design their own you know pieces of legislation for people university departments will do that i'm going to go to but they don't have commitments from legislators to introduce them i mean when you have one of these pieces actually introduced into a state legislature we can half ago with the original alec brand at the top the

woman i figured it was the legislator forgot to cut that off or tell her people hey you write it and it's i mean do you think the occupy folks are the right guys to be spearheading this the wildly unpopular occupy movement but somebody has to you know i just i don't i'm i'm very concerned about a a group that is funded by billionaires and corporations literally writing our was isn't there something anti-american about that i mean introducing i mean there's a lot of illegal ease and gulped in this legislation in i mean i would argue but i'm not sure a lot of state reps are actually smart enough to come across come up with the right pieces of legislation in there i mean there's our losses you know the amount of mercury they have as a regulator sions our regulatory environment has become so byzantine and complex at this point that you know you do need experts you know at least looking into vising and that happens with all sorts of legislation and left leaning organizations have

advised lawmakers on things like taxes all over the country by no means unique for that really only has only had a. democratic state representative from the state was constant in the show who showed up down in new orleans for the alec meeting and paid his hundred dollar a distraction fee and after the first day they kicked him out because they figured out that he was a progressive democrat and thought it was a spot sure enough you know he was or at least he became one after they kicked him out and he said that the you had state legislator lobbyist state legislator lobbyists state legislators are paying one hundred bucks to be there in some cases they get free trips and vacations and in hotels all kinds of things lobbies paid one hundred thousand dollars to be there they were voting everybody had an equal vote on whether legislation would be introduced to particular states that seems to me like corruption. well when you get the regulatory environment it was so you know they used to and so it would be made out so it wouldn't fire mental regulations

alone tell me one regulation that is this one regulation that is harming us i mean after the dodd frank gap one one regulation it's yeah it's really in dollars it's the estimated cost that's imposed on the private sector from the entire regulatory state that's harming the economy nonsense that is that's why she is he has a regulation a says here's your smokestack can't go can't admit all that crap. they're going to have to hire somebody to design a scrubber they're going to happen so all of this gets going to create jobs you're ok but it's pretty regulations that you were just talking about that created the you know the five one c three you know the electioneering environment where you have these shadowy five zero one c three is working behind the scenes for candidates you don't think that's harmful you don't think they're just saying lack of regulation is a very no i mean i've heard joe you know it's the lack of regulation or the write down everything from the tillman act in one thousand so seven all the way up to two . i don't see it john mclean aviation you know i only became regulate resident

obama brings those up he brought it up in his state of the union speech about milk clean up regulations got a great laugh out of the next one but that's one ok i agree with you that's one about to agree to buy the seven billion dollars of compliance costs on the tax system we could easily cut that in. several different have a seven trillion dollars that has vanished from our economy is a wreck as a result of the lack of regulation it was brought about by phil gramm when his wife wendy was on the board enron and he was pushing through the grammys blyleven to blow up class stiegel to deregulate the banks and the commodities futures modernization act to deregulate commodities so that enron could make a fortune on and it crashed our economy seven trillion dollars has vanished all the federal government let fannie mae and freddie mac. steal it had nothing to do with that and they are. and with that bill that was another good example of why government agencies like freddie freddie and fannie should never should have been privatized anyhow it's time for a quick fire let's get to our last question here quickly now the title is icons of

childhood entertainment in america under attack by conservatives first it was the moffats muppets that sponge bob square pants and now dr seuss take a listen to what lou dobbs had to say about the newest dr seuss film the lorax. the movie set to be released nationwide next month is about a woodland creature who speaks for the trees and fights rampant industrialism ok. you can shut down the street but what. i think he did it. universal pictures also promoting the movie partnering with companies to push eco friendly products all over the horror they go friendly products that makes me wonder what other beloved cartoon characters might republicans attack next could be capita merica after all he must be an agent of the e.p.a. underdog because republicans never root for the underdog or that's from dexter's laboratory he's a scientist and republicans you know and global warming all that stuff they just don't much like science these days what do you think. probably what lou dobbs was

attacking was more the movie itself and its depiction of the lorax than dr seuss's story the lorax i don't know what the harm is and i just hope that they don't go after south park or archer or any of those here so so far can be a pretty liberal pretty libertarian so yeah. yeah cartoons good that's that's i guess my end point there but going back captain america absolutely an agent of the of the i say that they're going to be going after she would do in louis for trying to redistribute scrooge mcduck swells something any. great to have you guys people will thank you very much thank you could see it in a. crazy alert move over roseanne has some new competition. it's me. it's

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