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oh and some are going to washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture a major change is coming to the ninety nine percent movement how is that group planning to flourish the arrival of spring also mitt romney won michigan last night but spent a fortune in the process is buying votes good for our democracy or is it a cancer that we need to cure and inside the daily take over the need to use the bathroom really bad well if the public can get their way will soon be out of what.
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you do know this for koch brothers funded american legislative exchange council or alec thought it could stay in the shadows and get away with pushing corporate friendly legislation and a lot off lawmakers when they thought wrong as because occupy wall street is on of the scale led by occupy portland today in ninety cities across america the movement took to the streets against out and the corporations that do business with in a day of actions are called it's going to shut down the corporations those corporations include walmart bank of america coca-cola mcdonald's and b.p. it was the scene in new york today where hundreds of demonstrators showed up outside bank of america before being pushed back by police in riot gear several arrests were reported this was the statement posted on the shutdown the corporation's website in regard to today's action we demand that alec as an under democratic organization disband and immediately we demand corporations remove
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themselves from those decisions that affect our lives we demand a direct democracy necessary to be able to see the side the shape of our society so that we can work together to address those challenges confronted us the future of our species. and the planet requires this we will beside our own fate together we are unstoppable community power not corporate power occupy alec so much for the koch brothers and their tentacles operating under the political radar but today's day of action is nothing compared to what the spring may bring for the ninety percent one percent will be joining me now is sory to group the jobs for justice talk about a new chapter ahead for the movement to take back america from corporate power serie a welcome thanks for joining us what is the ninety nine spring well the ninety nine percent spring is an effort to bring together people of all walks of life in the ninety nine percent to really share our vision for what a new just sustainable economy looks like and what is it well the vision is that we
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believe people should be able to. and make good wages support themselves and their families they should be able to live full lives be civically engaged work one job but not multiple we believe people should be able to stay in their homes people should be able to afford to go to school they shouldn't be. you know dealing with enormous amounts of debt in their lives that there's a different way in which our economy can function that really works for all people it sounds like you're describing in large part america before ronald reagan before the reagan revolution and maybe in larger part the vision that franklin roosevelt laid out just before he died in his in his second bill of rights is this is that is that. kind of intentionally channeling that so yeah absolutely we are in fact channeling some of that i think just really trying to to make sure that people like
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ninety nine percent people of the ninety nine percent are part of shaping the economy that we need we're tired of policymakers making decisions that are really the vision and the values of the one percent and corporations that frankly don't respect the human dignity of our people they do not believe in really creating an economy that sustainable for everyone so if i understand this correctly one of your goals is to train a hundred thousand that's right activists or people who can engage in this process how do you do it what are you training them well we intend to train one hundred thousand people these are farmers these are housing activists fighting for closures workers fighting to protect their bargaining rights these are students fighting student debt issues immigrants who are fighting against enforcement i mean a ton of different communities coming together to talk about the economy and not
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just talk about what's wrong with the economy but what we need to do to fix it and the goal is that not only are we training people on the account. itself but on the principles of nonviolent direct action we understand that no real change can be made in our economy without a real vibrant grassroots movement of people every day people think things have to change and in order to do that we want to equip people with the principles and values of nonviolent direct action as a way to express their their demands our demand i know there's some debate in some of the occupy groups about diversity of tactics about the difference between violence or diversity of tactics being essentially code for we're going to let some some of our folks go out smash windows and the rest of us are going to be nonviolent are you showing that are you sir are you are you saying we're we're going to commit violence period we're committed to nonviolence and the reason we're committed to that is because we want people of all walks of life involved in this
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effort we think it's going to take a critical mass of people to say stop this things have to change fundamentally things have to change people have to stop suffering our communities have to stop suffering and we're not going to be able to fix this economy on the backs of workers and and low income poor people in this nation you know there's a long history of i mean literally a multi thousand year history of showing that nonviolence is is more powerful than piles absolutely and we hope that april ninth to the fifteenth will be an opportunity for us to in fact train one hundred thousand people and you know people can learn a lot more about this on our website w.w.w. the ninety nine percent and ninety nine spring dot com. do they do they need to show up in person for the trainings or can they do these things online actually we're making it really accessible so both we hope people who want to and are inspired to come and participate in different cities and communities in these training scam but we're also providing the training on line so people can access it
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from wherever they are that's korea syria thanks so much for bankruptcy. pleasure to meet you alec has been flying under the radar for decades writing and getting there's a huge mostly republican state legislators to introduce corporate and billionaire friendly legislation and ballot initiatives in states and coast to coast and goodness we're discovering this fat cat rock of the core of our democracy and the ninety nine percent movement is helping to publicize it if your friends don't know about alec please tell this is a very big deal and if you want to get involved in the change sweeping the nation then go to blog ninety nine spring dot com so we say get active occupy something democracy truly does begin with you. it's wednesday are you ready to rumble joining me on the panel for tonight's lone liberal rabble vince colony senior on line editor with the daily caller and
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laughlin mark a investigative reporter with the heritage foundation welcome back both of you and mark thanks yes right ok. i'll get to mitt romney. that may have eked out a win in michigan yesterday but two hundred fifty eight thousand dollars per day like this is mind boggling what we have what we've seen in america over the last fifty years is the transformation from what are your ideas what are your principles what are your positions to who's got the biggest billionaire you know now the stories out there to newt gingrich's billionaire shelley has decided you know he's he sat out vision going to now he's decided that he's going to throw another couple billion and so all of a sudden newt is back in the race in georgia and south carolina unlike those. the nixon kennedy entire presidential campaign twenty four million dollars was spent we're looking at maybe a billion or two billion dollars in this one it was almost
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a billion and a last one isn't having an election process that's more about candidates personal finances than about their beliefs a bad thing for democracy. well i think what the fact that the delegate count of course was split between romney and santorum fifteen a piece of i'm not mistaken so i think you know it speaks to it other than romney outspent santorum between two to one and six to one reading that number so so despite that massive spending advantage they they got about the same amount of delegates and i think what that shows is that there is something of a declining marginal utility for each next dollar spent well and i want to see arizona was a winner take all state. my point in michigan is a proportional representation of what it was. you know when you have such a massive funding disparity without a directly proportional disparity in the amount of delegates or the amount of votes given out i think it shows that one more dollar it does not equal one more vote one
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was arguing about how many angels are in the head of a pin and there's a larger issue here which is buying elections there's a lot of people in this race and these guys can choose to get behind whoever they choose to obviously mitt romney has had a long lead time in terms of the money that he needed to make and he has the event he's raised thirty billion he spent thirty million dollars only letters and actually spent so much time as the front runner rick santorum is a recent addition to that status and the idea is like what rick santorum did did actually kind of well based on his ideas he identified with a lot of blue collar workers voters in michigan that's been that is that's his core that's his base and that's a state that he put it very well you know next in kennedy spent twenty four million dollars because back then billionaires were thrown money into political campaigns are actually laws against that in some places and others just you know it was considered unseemly and with citizens united now and first national bank versus. buckley versus the way of the series of supreme court decisions we've had you know we have now become a system where the person who has ninety four percent of time the candidate who spends the most money regardless of party even regardless of incumbency ninety four
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percent the time the person spends the most money wins how can that be good for democracy shouldn't we be going back to what kennedy and nixon had where every radio and television station the country was required in order to keep their license they had to air those debates they had to show multiple points of view they had to give free time to candidates well no i don't i don't think. the government requiring radio stations to broadcast a point of view is helping her to market democracy or all the board or you will be requiring them to having the government have any say in what what private individuals decide to say politically i think even to slow your way because the very day that we do actively i yes i begin to very well you know the people use the public airwaves have no obligation to the public their their obligation is to. speak their mind go to the first amendment but you know that that's a protected right and. it also has to be the arbiter of what exists on either side of the coin i mean every you know there are a lot of issues that you don't think have another side that this is clear cut and
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dry and who's going to be that arbiter is going to be what we're talking about here so historically it's been the major political but how would you or those larry's view would need to be for it you not have required and you see you don't seem to be missing the larger the larger issue of the larger issue is unless you have a better alternative how do we get away from campaigns political campaigns where the person with the most money wins period well and so it's all about which billionaires you just said that you know certainly there's a potential for confusing correlation and causation there and that the winning candidate may have so much money because he's been with the candidate because people have decided to line up behind a front runner or the person they think is going to win rather than them winning because they have that work and i think there's a monist mathare associated with mitt romney like i said he spends so much time as the presumed front runner and he's had a lot of time to gain the money that he's now using in races against people like rick santorum ok well let's carry on our our rubble here in just a minute first we are we all know psychopaths usually reside in prison but can they
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live in sprawling mansions work in a corner office and drive hundred thousand dollar cars while rob coming up after the break. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old so if you told the truth. i meant. get a friend back i'll grab and have coffee is that. he was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the role that al-jazeera has played.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought. i'm sorry is a big issue. all
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the magnified sloan liberal rumble i'm joined by vince collin a senior online editor of the daily caller and laughlin mark a investigative reporter with the heritage foundation let's go back to senator olympia snowe a longtime republican long time republican from maine announced yesterday that she would not seek reelection in citing the reasons for her retirement she talked about growing partisanship and she said that was a key reason this is not only a big blow to republicans chances to hang on to one more senate seat because she
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was kind of in the middle and that probably i guess of democrats going out of his seat but here's was to show that the former head of john mccain's presidential campaign had to say about this is one. heard so much talk over the last couple of years of purging the party of its rhinos purging the party of its. because of its moderate members you know there's two types of churches one that tries to go out and bring in converts and one that goes out and on terror attacks and we have been a party that's done a lot of heretic conning over the last couple of years or so is that right has the republican party become weaker because it has purged itself of its moderates i think the republican party is revisiting its ideology a lot over the past couple years yeah it's mostly john birch society was thirty years ago mostly because it took a shellacking i think if we can forget where he was injured as well that was two thousand but it's a bigger shellacking before when they basically they lost the house and the senate
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in the house and yeah so i mean the idea is republicans need to you know revisit that moment and then you saw the guy who is already in that a lot instead of that ideology really was you know let's have a couple of wars let's have giant tax cuts i mean we're is still talking about tax cuts george w. bush tried to privatise so secure it is still talking about privatizing social security but that was his big thing in two thousand but how do their ideology change well as i do today i mean look at me look to the extent to which libertarianism is actually become a part of the conversation in the republican party but that is not always a lot of talk that was made when i look at bush yet bush you know when i was in you mentioned bush now bush is really talked about as one of those guys really look his mistakes mistakes made this coming with the war the way the patriot act was done i mean republicans are consistently revisiting their ideology that's what they've been doing the tea party's demonstration of that and i think that's absolutely right and i think that you know given the fact that the junior senator from massachusetts was just weeks ago relatively recent events right and about to be tossed out on his keester i mean elizabeth warren is just eating his lunch and boy
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he's not being primaried by republicans is the point so it's sort of eating their own you know one would think that he'd be the logical place to start and it hasn't happened so i'm not seeing it be a net new national trend but i do want to just point out that you know i. vince was right and met things like no child left behind or the work that it is you know it wasn't being primaried either well no amount of course but this talk about purging the party of moderates i think there's very little evidence that that's actually happening but they go back and look at the concord coalition the concord project they had all these videos up in two thousand and nine and two thousand and ten to tea party people telling them how to become how to become you know how to get inside the republican party and become the people who choose the primary candidates so in nearly a hundred congressional districts the united states all the primary republican primary candidates were tea partiers so thus you end up with what eighty some odd ninety seven hundred two thousand and ten you saw a lot of primary against you know mainstream main candidates that were very rich
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but the ideas like i mean what's wrong i think i've said the question for me is what's wrong politically with a party deciding they don't want to resume his principles and double down on and on to clarity you know we heard a lot of during george w. bush's administration no hypocrisy you're supposed to see on the part of republicans who claim to be for small government but embrace this vision of compassionate conservatism but very often lead to bigger government not triple the size had ever made right so the point is that you know republicans or getting back to their small government roots and you know i think to to frame that as a moderate purge rather than a rethinking of the central ideology of a major political party i think it's a presumption and i'm an artist and so sorry for smaller government is telling women we're going to stick this thing inside your body because part of the part of the part of this was about as long as you know it probably doesn't always know in the breakdown is always left a matter of law somebody crossed the aisle and involved in terms of like where's partisanship now most people agree on either side of the aisle the partisanship is pitched at a level that it hasn't been in some time and the idea or maybe even ever and the
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idea is that as the economy continues to decline and continues to head in a direction that was actually getting a whole lot better obviously i park i just want to refer to go allison tom i don't know if i missed that i don't have the money to impress great mother. growth entitlement programs are clearly headed over the cliff there's no arguing it's one program doing just fine social security is solvent for the next twenty twenty seven years and after that if you were to do away with the cap if you made so security tax a true flat tax so bill k. gates paid the same amount that you do it would be solvent for ever and medicare all you have to do is say you know ok we're going to we're going to we're going to stop saying that medicare has to pay retail prices and let them negotiate wholesale like the department of defense problem solved this easy stops people the medical industry and use medicare to do it and probably solve it i think i'm all in favor of that. which i'm going to you know i'm totally in favor the better your party for everybody i'm going to name a few names which one is out of place jeffrey dahmer ted bundy goldman sachs' charles manson now it's a fast enough coming article in the trade magazine c.f.
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age this is a chart of chartered financial analysts it's actually a big deal this organization journal sure read it. because and he says that one in every ten people working on wall street is actually clinically diagnosable as a psychopath like in the america in the movie american psycho about the psychopathic new york investment banking executive surprise it just became a little more realistic. will be for the first frenzy i think my masks. to sleep. the devastation caused by bank stores in two thousand and eight if you look at it from this point if you make a lot of sense of wall street is filled with psychopaths why do conservatives want to hand them social security and we were just talking about this you guys want to privatized all these things here and i'm off the wall street and therefore psychopaths. oh i find it interesting that christian bale's name is bateman in that movie just one other sort of batman some how that worked out but you know the idea
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that first of all they think this is a loosely done study one that i don't think is very well done but the idea is like we have speculated about this two years ago but the thing is that if you have like you know that a lot of successful people or crazy or mean there are a lot of psychopathic people among among the wealthy in the in the indeed successful i agree with that entirely because i think that there's essential risk that he's actually go it with becoming exceptional and some of those actually might involve some mental capacities but with that said you're using this to demonize wall street bankers obviously i mean why would you bring it up on this show. as people on wall street and it is like if you want to look at something like this look at people on welfare there's a lot of people that have psychosis issues that are on welfare and i don't know if that this is like a reasonable way but i don't want them in charge of myself i'm not going to go down to the to the to the street person on the corner and of g. and thirteenth and say here here's my hundred thousand bucks for my retirement or whatever you know i don't i don't think that it's in the bank's interests to be in point psychopaths i can't imagine that they make good bankers they don't they're
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all there's only one school they can you know a psychopath is somebody who can go to sleep at night knowing that they've destroyed somebody like rachel wood over one hundred because it was a horrible risk taker they would have which is why they crashed the economy but my point is just that terrible risk seekers do not make for good bankers so i would hope that i don't have to leave anything for good bankers when glass steagall was made haste to. study is accurate first of all my point is just that if it were accurate you know i would think banks would be purging psychopaths from their employment rules on a consistent basis in. i think so i think it will be a market can dictate how many psychopaths work on here was speaking of the declaration industries booming the roosevelt ins institute says one in seven americans right now is me how to buy a debt collector that's twice the number from two thousand how long before americans get that trickle down that reagan promised us will unemployment twice the number that it was from to the right i mean we have thirty thirty one years of reaganomics take it thirty one years of decimation of the american middle it does
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stand to reason that more people would mean that the other thing is i think americans just in general have an insatiable appetite appetite for using credit for instance and i don't think that's necessarily a that's a that's that's because from roosevelt until reagan you saw the middle class go like this and from reagan so now you saw it go like this and people continue their lifestyles going like this in the fill in that gap they use credit cards and they use their homes as a.t.m.'s and when the value their homes went through the through they're going to take their word because the cycle has lost three of their own but there are there are political policies in place that encourage debt spending and there have been you know for us so you know if you give tax deductions to pay interest on your mortgage that loose money policies things like that you know so i think you know it's a larger picture of what we need an economy. people that are more inclined toward saving and investing than they are towards that which is an economy that works again you know thirty years of reaganomics all i see is the middle class has flat
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lined for thirty one years when we apollo in forty years f.d.r. new deal economics when we had the greatest period of growth for the middle class literally in the history of the nation and arguably in the history the world well i'm not sure how you're defining middle class but you know in terms of the greatest people who make under one hundred six thousand dollars in today's money ok but that that also you know what they were using that money on comes into play with you know the cost of goods and services what people can buy with their money or people's lives better than they were thirty or forty years ago i don't think they are i don't. remember they tell me you know my dad why would i do this house was paid off he always had he was always able to buy a new car every other year and he worked until now i shop but my point is that good union jobs you know choo-choo attribute debt collectors coming after people now policies that were put in place nearly forty years ago i think it's a bit speech to see if it is easier than i said i still think it's right it's easier than ever and the government enabled that and private ok last time for
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a last question quick for yesterday lawmakers wyoming narrowly defeated the so-called doomsday bill that would have helped the state prepare for the absolute collapse of the u.s. government the bill would have allocated money to study various ways to survive in a post apocalyptic america including how to introduce a state currency which makes me wonder what all the state governments and their officials do if the apocalypse comes to be the new jersey governor chris christie who has recently revealed who recently revealed he was dieting will go off his diet or arizona governor brewer will not only finish the fence around the mexican border she'll continue it around the entire state or our older prizes role as the governor and legalize pot while single handedly confronted confronting the apocalypse what do you think i don't even i i came up with the answer this week i will go with pretty probably falling off ok i'm going to go with andrew cuomo giving his. press attention lately constructed bunker in which you allow anyone but journalists ok
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and i think gary herbert the republican governor and utah and a mormon who has a year's worth of food stations basement in order everybody in the state to convert years worth of food from clip spent then glenn beck's advertisers thanks to the little really for two. days like larry king thanks for joining our pleasure . crazy alert. politician politics can be a real cat fight and the cat has tossed his paws into the ring for virginia's open senate seat and as a political independent his campaign platform consists of job creation and putting milk in every bowl thanks twitter account says he wants to create a privacy bill of rights and protect consumer data even though nothing in the constitution says only humans can run for political office the campaign still faces an uphill battle since federal law says senate candidates must be at least thirty
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years old to be citizens however in cat years hank is actually fifty two old enough to be a seasoned politician and he is an american purebred and believe it or not animals have held political office before the honorable basco ramos a labrador rottweiler mix was the mayor of soon all california from nine hundred eighty one to nine hundred ninety so with a strong campaign and a loyal following maybe hank the cat can cough up a victory and scratch out a seat on capitol hill we'll be right we'll be right back. we just put a picture of the mead when i was like nine years old so if you told the truth. i think i am a fool get a ranch that i was driving because he's making an interesting.
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yesterday. i'm very proud of the world with its place. i get on sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then he limps something else you hear sees some other part of it and realize everything is ok you don't know i'm charming welcome to the big picture.

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