tv [untitled] March 2, 2012 6:30pm-7:00pm EST
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guys it's time for tonight's tool time award and tonight we're giving it to the house legislature from the sunshine state by now we all know that florida come up with some pretty wacky bills of the past few years thanks in part to the unpopular governor rick scott but tonight we have to switch our focus to the florida state house lawmakers have been passing bills on religion now for starters the house got its hands on a bill that would allow prayer in school legislations that the only students could leave the prayer and that participation with the optional obviously the bill's been controversial however religious leaders in florida seem to be ok with it in part. muslim jewish and other religious leaders support the bill on one condition as long as it doesn't become predominately only one religion that's offering prayer. after all lawmakers are frame of the bill as a religious freedom issue so looks like the sunshine state is taking
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a cue from conservatives like rick santorum because he's not seen throughout this whole separation thing either i don't believe in america or the separation of church and state is absolute the idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state which is absolutely an authentic call to the to the objectives and vision of our country. let me ask a question here and santorum talks about church as referring to all religions are muslims jews buddhists included under the label of church or is the only thing about evangelicals think we all know the answer and sadly the florida house seems to be on the same page because within twenty four hours the state house also passed a bill that would ban courts from using religious or foreign law in making a legal decision lawmakers voted in favor of house bill twelve o nine it was sponsored by representative who explains the bill designed for the cases throughout the country where courts have upheld islamic code the truth comes out right this practice created to battle shari'a law that not an issue that we
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keep seeing legislation drawn up for and lawmakers waste taxpayer money and time on fighting across the country. you know after hearing about the house a green suit incorporate prayer and public school and trying to ban sharia law if there is a point to be made these lawmakers are picking and choosing which religions they want to protect they say that it's ok for christians to pray in school and turn around at a time to clamp down and as long being in the courts and greatly the way the house took almost no time at all to be either one of these major bills says just how lightly they take it all christianity good islam bad so we're pretending to stand up religious freedom but only for one religion for his house lawmakers are tonight's top time winners. now it comes to the department of defense and the budget often seems like no expense is spare over the years trillions of taxpayer dollars have been funneled into the air force and its family of fighter jets and planes something the d. o. d. is looking to continue this week general norm shorts announce of the air force is
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working on a new long range bomber program program that's already underway would involve eighty to one hundred planes with a price tag of at least five hundred fifty million dollars but we're not going to see those bad boys in the sky until the mid two thousand and twenty so there's still a lot of work to be done but what exactly does by a hundred fifty million dollars get you the air force plans on making the planes stealthy capable of carrying nuclear weapons and allow the option of being manned with a human pilot or flying their own like a drone so a drone that can carry a nuke seems a little scary to me now the air force also wants the bombers equipped with radar jammers lasers that can burn missiles and the capabilities to control a fleet not one but a fleet of drones so it's a pretty hefty wishlist but let's step back a second shall we because i have this crazy idea how about the air force make sure that their current programs are capable of working properly before they give the thumbs up to start a whole new and as we've mentioned many times on this show the joint strike fighter program has cost billions and billions of dollars in cost overruns and it's not all
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the star fighter jets that twenty two of the f. thirty five have been riddled with technical problems and we're not just talking little things there were numerous reports of the accident systems failing you kind of have even died from the lack of oxygen to the brain as they were flying the jets and the problem is so about the both the f. twenty two and the f. thirty five have been grounded repeatedly and as of this week the twenty two s are still stuck on land at the same reports of oxygen issues now these jets are going around for six years and the twenty two's cost eighty million to thirty five cost about ninety million to build and the maintenance package for those are a trillion dollars over the long term or the most expensive weapon system in all of history. and they don't even work so let's take a moment to talk a little common sense here if you drop the millions of dollars into a top line car or a mansion and it's still not operating and you don't just move on to another project cross your fingers of the same problems can occur again the pentagon is so
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intent on being the biggest and baddest military force military force in the world that they just don't seem to care how much it all costs which for the taxpayer is a very sad reality. and american consumers have become used to buying goods at cheap cost something at this point it's going to quade and with cheap labor and other countries making it possible are also growing used to finding some of the best deals online and then getting those products delivered real fast with the perks of free shipping or overnight delivery especially around the holidays but how many of us actually know what it takes to get the products to us what kind of labor practices go on at the shipping centers right here at home in the united states there are currently a number of lawsuits one in particular against amazon or workers have complained of horrible conditions and being treated like quote pieces of crap and one reporter wanted to go find out for herself by working at a mall that made a product giant shipping worldwide in mississippi this is a place where complaining isn't tolerated unreachable goals are said to work is back breaking shifts thirteen hours minimum and worker safety takes second place to
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productivity it's not described that this was her time as the warehouse wage slave inside the online shipping machine so joining me to discuss that is michael call and he would write supporter for mother jones magazine nice to have you back on the show tonight and i guess if you could just summarize summarize this experience for us in a couple of words of what it really felt like to work at this place what would you say. well it feels like nobody cares about the people who work there basically the only thing that really matters is the efficiency and the speed with which you can you know do your job it's all about keeping costs down so they consumers don't have to pay for shipping and so that prices can be discounted on the products and so that the that money basically comes out of the treatment of the workers who get very little money have very few breaks have crazy products of any goals are almost impossible were impossible for me to meet because i don't work there very long but
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i practice where i would be able to get one thousand three hundred orders a day which is you know the sort of thing that they make you do so it's just it's there's no regard for the people who work there so it's pretty miserable. how would you say it was in terms of you know you when you called yourself a wage slave and so when you say if these conditions border on something that we think would be you know that we think we would have regulations against that workers would have protections against in this country yeah there should be you know actually with this one day when i asked my synchronize their if i could go to the bathroom while i was trying to you know run around and get my job done he started laughing and he was like this isn't china but if you go to the bathroom it's going to affect your product to be in if you don't hit your numbers you get scolded and told that you're doing really bad job so i was like you're laughing you
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know like the conditions here are you know and obviously it is better than working in china but by american standards when i describe you know what it was like so work in this place in you know in this country and in this century people will say this is the america that you're talking about because it sounds like the sort of thing that you know people fought to protect against. well let's talk about one of the issues here too is that there is a large part of the workforce that are temporary workers and so they don't get paid as much as the permanent workers do you mention that some of these people actually just move around the country from city to city working one temp job to the next and so how is that the that's become something that businesses can get away with or somebody can be considered a temporary worker for years on end well because the companies you know that contract out to other companies do their temporary stamping and so there's sort of
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there's a removal of you know. somebody being responsible for what's going on and it's you know you're hired sort of as a contractor they call it like it's a contractor so you have very limited if any at all health insurance you don't have time off you don't have you know be cation paid sick days and things like this that you would have in a normal place and it's the best way you know cost wise for companies to do business because if you have people who you don't owe anything to whatsoever except for seven dollars an hour or eight dollars an hour that's obviously the cheapest way to get it done so this is actually it's a trend to use temporary staffers not just for on line shipping but also for hotel work and in the hospitality and industry and things like that just to you know have people who are not accountable to and you can just fire them whenever you want and get new ones when you need them and it's it's super super cheap and effective and
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so would you say that's a sign of the times you know when we're talking other people that were working at the shipping center here is it because they just can't get worse worked elsewhere because unemployment so high because of the economy or has this temp transition been going on before that. well definitely it is a sign of the times because you wouldn't do this job if you didn't have to you know everybody who works in there you know or so why are you here what happened here is that you have to have a job like this because if you had options you would not take that sort of treatment from your employer so everybody inside this warehouse and the warehouse recognized that this is sort of a job of last resort and one of the people who i was working with even said you know they can treat us however they want because they know we don't have any other choice you know if the job market was better and you had different job options and
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then these companies would have to make these jobs were peeling and they would have to change people whether otherwise people just wouldn't work there so so the economists that i talked to said yeah you know if the economy was better people could demand better labor conditions but at this point it's probably not going to happen so the companies are definitely taking advantage of it but you know you also bring out. the fact that hey this industry of shipping things online of shopping online is something that's only growing and we're all getting used to the perks of it because not only can you find the best deals on the internet a lot of the time but it's just so easy it's a livered right to your doorstep you know or to wherever you receive your packages but do you think that it's really about asking americans whether they'd be willing to pay a couple dollars more to better the working environment for these for these employees or is it really just about the companies being about their bottom line and being solely profit driven because you know even if we want to pay
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a couple more dollars are we did we agreed to it's not necessarily going to force the company to change their practices that's true i mean it's it's both right on the one hand these companies you know what if you buy from wal-mart online for example these are the kinds of film and centers and you mentioned amazon these are the sorts of conditions that they have nobody is under. you know illusion that wal-mart or amazon couldn't afford to lose a little bit off of their bottom line that's true but you know there are smaller companies as well and in order to compete with these bigger companies they have to make their shipping three if there was a standard you know if people knew what it was like in these warehouses and a standard was created you know some people will pay more for people are not going to stop buying stuff the internet i mean when i was working there people were ordering you know even toilet paper up in or that because it's easy and we don't have time to go to the store and whatever but if there was a standard created poor people who you know for shipping companies that actually
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treated their workers humanely there probably is a segment of the population the same people who you know pay more for again exclude or you know things like this or by a local call those people probably would pay more and seek out those services to make sure that they weren't complicit in this terrible terrible treatment of people who have no other choice yeah i think the most people just don't know but you have one should read your piece it's definitely a an interesting insight into how these places where i am so much for joining us tonight. our guys our last break even though we come back firefly friday and on happy hour i can now selling entire ready to assemble homes and buildings were things around a crying baby doll that we from the. same . people calling like you said for free and
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two weeks ago we spoke about an attempt to privatized prisons on a mass scale here in the us having opposed to real corrections corporation of america the largest private prison company had offered a deal to the states selling is a great way to fix their budget woes the company proposed in exchange for cold hard cash and the states would just have to sign a twenty year contract and c.c.a. also require that the prisons be capped at ninety percent capacity now right over not only the evidence out there that shows that prison private is privatization does not in fact save money but also the sickening idea that states actually have to promise to provide enough criminals now. thankfully groups out there are speaking out against this and a letter spearheaded by the a.c.l.u. and signed by twenty six other organizations they call the governors of all fifty states to reject this offer from court corrections corporations of america and warn that their offer is a backdoor invitation to take on additional debts increasing c.c.s. profits and impeding the serious criminal justice reforms needed to combat the
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nation's mass incarceration crisis and the thing is it's not just groups like the a.c.l.u. thirty in part there was also another letter sent out by thirty two religious organizations and they say that there is a moral imperative in reducing incarceration through evidence based alternatives to imprisonment and you know what these letters are all right the problem in this country is that we do indeed have an incarceration crisis we have the largest known prison population in the world only is that expensive it also creates an underclass of people that cycle through the system or then deprived of their voting rights unable to find work unable to become normal citizens again a functioning members of society so the solution is not to just give prisons to private companies for cash and the promise that you can fall in the world is that actually sound like an answer the real truth is that we need to reduce the prison population we need to reduce sentences for nonviolent offenses we need to take a new look at the entire approach realize that rehabilitation programs other
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alternatives out there might be the right step forward there are other ways but states arrived into a bad idea because they can't have their budgets in order that should make all of us were so it's up to these governors to make the right decision and say no to c.c.a. it's also up to all of us to make sure that these organizations aren't the only ones speaking out against mass scale prison privatization because nobody should feel comfortable with a promise to keep person is bull. hi guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening sam sacks producer for the big picture with tom hartman and mike riggs so say they're at reason magazine and reason dot com hey guys thanks for joining me either of those.
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let's just start with this really embarrassing story for not just makes me i can't stop laughing about it basically it's all up brian williams do the dirty work and explain the details. bit of an embarrassment for nasa they've now admitted forty eight electronic devices have been lost or stolen in just a two year period that includes a laptop computer that contains the other encrypted codes for controlling the international space station. really i mean not only do they lose this but then you find out that the codes for the international space station where i mean crippled i that's pretty embarrassing i don't understand from system scared or not like what is the international still only you know like a year ago and i just think they were a little bit with it but i don't know or worried when i lose my debit card i think than i am that they lost the laptop space to me this is also the international such as our space station so it's like when you lose your friends call our message and
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i'm somewhere worry as well as we want you to put the billings didn't want to you know to have a girl domination in mind when there's a what if i mean what if it's like those. prison papers that were found in my compiler in iraq that we found out all the stuff about interrogations but one of this is like sitting in a garbage can and downtown manhattan or something and i think somebody is at some bar telling some girl you want to go out of my space stations like this that i could make that television. but i know something and do it so if i do i do miss the group controls the space station yeah. you girls i guess you could listen girls boy . oh yeah i don't i don't know how to use a pick up chicks but there's got to be something you know you will. my goodness ok i mean you know what i'm doing here is signori going to let me just say or if. it's like a like a little cottage in space or something yeah next next it's yes it's going to be i
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understand why anyone would like fathers or mothers but. it just freaks me out take a look. i think we got the clue. there is one where that the real baby that she is actually flipping around is crying and you know it was horrible and i just thought well why would our baby postpartum depression this is how mothers who wish they weren't mothers deal with. you know oh my god he says the first thing they do when you bring the baby and when it's not breathing is they look for bruises and with this the baby's like limber and looks really good the smell you know you just scared to death by swinging it around like a rag doll. michael jackson was doing this and this basically what he was doing
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when you when he would be a thing like that and i heard of his time yeah and we now know. this russian woman who's doing this in egypt was once a man. she's going to hear what you said she's russian i. think. they're trying to get me to. she's only going to really know it's a it's just a name ok and i'm mumbling again so let's move on to this french guy that's trying to take a look. while you're on google's camera remember to keep your pants google street view caught this man in northwest france urinating on his driveway and now that blurry face figure is suing google for damages he claims this picture has made him the laughing stock of his small town he wants the snapshot taken down and ten thousand euros his lawyer tells reuters everyone has the right to a degree of secrecy in this particular case it's more amusing than serious but if he had been caught kissing a bit other than his wife he would have had the same issue but is this really
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google's problem one of the company's lawyers called the lawsuit impossible. i'm going to argue he would have very different problems if google had caught him kissing somebody other than a wife yeah i don't know a little more than just embarrassing. frenchman i just. i'm a little tired you know don't be peeing outside of public places for an driveway look like a backyard it's you know where i ask i don't know and you know i look at that picture a lot today and i couldn't if you hadn't told me that's what he was doing i would think he was just surveying that dump of a backyard yes and really that's what he should be embarrassed about. so. there it was that or if that was a little bit rattled and i was a little strong all right let's move on to ikea who you know you go to ikea because the furniture is she falls are putting together by yourself the why but now they're actually previewing their very first home this thing is called i think it's.
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basically it's a one bedroom home it const eighty six thousand dollars six thousand five hundred dollars and it can be delivered to your empty lot by a semi truck and one or two big pieces and it's already constructed and partially furnished with an ikea bedroom kitchen and bathroom installs. things really tiny i mean somebody walking around with seventy five thousand dollars in their pocket after you buy this but i kind of won't let alone i like trying to close the spaces . you know like he does do all the work for you but they're just like you are already saying here to build a house you know like here for everything i'm sorry you lean over the roof has collapsed like your house is not just the swedish double wide trailer like i'm going to florida and we have things like that all the time they cost half as much they're not quite as skilfully furnished but it's like oh no i don't want to live there but this one's going to look cool because it's like yeah you guess what i do you know if they don't show a picture of the outside you know why because there's like a propane tank a pit bull training to like
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a sapling if not really hard because nobody has one yet yeah and i know exactly where they're going to ponderosa trailer park and think about florida so it'll be a very you know in trying to everybody hangs out at ikea they're like they all just lounge around and party and sleep i'm seriously going to have swedish meatballs you can confiscate it is it because we're going to try to lounge around on well and i mean i mean that's one reason i'm not sure why they do it that's where people started i was really i definitely would go to costco just for the free food samples and i was hungry like you know sometimes airport college kid there he's pretty tragic and i was you know. and really you. i go yeah i'm cheap yeah now you got it but they ok we're ok said anywhere her dad thanks for joining what does it i so things are turning in admiration the guys going back on monday would have a newly printed author of black tuesday but on the show and we had time to get to become a fan of a lot of show on facebook you can call us on twitter if there's anything never missed you can find out looking stuff by asking
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