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detail here how many problems there are and yet now investigations not to mention even if these weren't suicides you have to talk about the conditions of these people are being held and so thanks so much for joining us tonight. i will take a short break but we'll be right back. people calling like you said for free and fair elections. and we're still reporting from the. if you can hear behind me loud it's religion's really. good it gave.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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all right cyprus show in silence and i program the last time we spoke about the latest human rights watch report which aired light on the hundreds of youth that are serving life in prison sentences without parole in california and across the united states want to know that if you thought that a sentence that severe is really appropriate for human odds so producers in a sense you took to the streets of d.c. find out what you had to say. i'm on the streets of d.c. to tell people in the nation's capital what are viewers on twitter facebook and youtube had to say and see which comments we should keep or delete. the. juveniles be able to be sentenced to life in prison without parole i read your
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response from mike on facebook he said if they're old enough to knowingly kill violently rob and rape they are old enough to pay the price or to lead a keeper to know what they're doing and they do something so violent if they're old enough to knowingly kill violently rob and rape they are old enough to pay the price keep it or delete it they keep it in my opinion it's no different than an adult making the same decision marina on facebook said no juveniles should not be sentenced to life without parole what they need is better rehabilitation and social programs keep it for rehabilitation and services they want a lot of us deserve and need it's very often not so much their fault i think it's the fault of the family or society now malke on youtube said life without parole for someone that is not considered responsible enough to vote drink have sex drive or kill for their country is just plain moronic he without kids is welcome but if you have kids you have a completely different outlook on they're going to kill somebody then they should
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not have any rights at all when you ask people if a person who committed a terrible crime deserves a second chance many of you would say no but if that person who committed the crime was under eighteen years old it seems that people in d.c. are pretty split down the middle of that person should deserve a second chance or not. i will thank you for your responses and as usual as usual and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke about mitt romney's belief that for profit colleges are a way to bring costs down and higher education which as we showed you isn't true for look at the statistics but if politicians continue to rally for the corporate or is a sion of education then well for profit colleges become the way the future a norm let us know what you think on facebook twitter and you tube and knows your response it just might make. or a new report released by the department of education raises a lot of questions about in school punishments and school related arrests as
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education education secretary arnie duncan put it the sad fact is that minority students across america face much harsher discipline the non-minority even within the same school so according to the civil rights data collection statistics from two thousand and nine to two thousand and ten more than seventy percent of students involved in school related arrests or cases referred to law enforcement or hispanic or african-american although black students made up only eighteen percent of those of the role of the school sampled they counted for thirty five percent of those suspended once forty six percent of those suspended more than once and thirty nine percent of all expulsions and overall black students are more than three times more likely as their white peers to be suspended or expelled and districts reported explosions under their zero tolerance policies hispanics and black students are presented forty five percent of the student body but fifty six percent of those expelled the statistics were gathered from seventy two thousand schools in seven
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thousand districts which means that they cover about eighty five percent of the nation's students so how do you look at this issue let me explain it and how do we change it joining me to discuss what is and is fair and co-host of the young turks and thanks so much for joining us tonight and you know i guess for starters when you hear statistics like this what's the first thing that comes to mind what's the immediate reaction that you have. well the first thing that comes to mind is obviously racism as you mentioned in those statistics seventy percent of the students that get sent of these juvenile detention centers and get harshly disciplined are either black or hispanic so that's the first thing that comes to mind but the a.c.l.u. has done an excellent job in really tackling this issue and it has to do with the school to prison pipeline and it's the zero tolerance policies that are used in new schools and how do you fact minority students in this country and what they discovered is a lot of the. high schools and middle schools throughout the country want to make sure that they have the highest standardized test scores and the way to do that is
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they find these ways to get rid of students that come from low income families who maybe didn't have the best education growing up and want to do the best in these standardized tests so you don't zero tolerance policies are really great way to find excuses and find ways to get rid of these students that won't do well on standardized testing so that's one of the things another reason for whites happening is because look a lot of teachers i think get. scared when it comes to certain situations they don't know what the proper way to discipline the students are so they think ok well we have a zero tolerance policy zero tolerance is zero tolerance we got to get rid of you because you brought scissors to school to work on your project when i got a question you know that first bit of narration from a.c.l.u. because if you look at it on the statistics that they provide are perhaps in schools where the majority of the students' rights are black or hispanic where whether or not the minority you also have less experienced teachers you also have
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a lower level of classes or i guess you don't have as high as high of a level of classes that are actually available for these students for example a lot of them don't offer calculus so in cases like that it's hard to argue that what they're really fighting for in these schools are high standardized test scores . yeah i definitely see what you're saying i mean a lot of these schools go after the proper classes and a lot of that has to do with underfunding especially in areas where they use property tax in order to fund education and you know in core areas you're not really going to get as much money as rich areas like let's say in beverly hills but you know a lot of this i think has to do with laziness on the administration's part in the schools and i think that what a lot of people want to deny that racism doesn't exist in this country anymore it's a problem that we've overcome and even if race racism isn't as overt as it was decades ago there are other ways that people participate in racist behavior and
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this is a perfect example of that we don't when you look at the numbers the numbers don't lie the proof is in the plenty eighteen percent of these students are african-american but huge majority of them get thrown into juvenile detention centers for minor offenses it's ridiculous can also keep in mind look if we have the type of juvenile detention centers or prisons jails in this country that work that actually rehabilitated people then maybe maybe you can have an argument but the recidivism rate here in the united states is ridiculous so you're putting the school age children in these juvenile detention centers they're not criminals they don't deserve to be a juvenile detention centers but they're put in there and they actually become criminals as a result so it's really a harmful thing for this country right now and we have this prison culture we throw everyone in prison for everything the vast majority of people in prison right now are there for drug offenses and nonviolent offenses. well you know i wonder what
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you think that the federal government's role should be in this case because if you also look back at some of these policies the zero tolerance policies that we see in schools a lot of them weren't acted thanks to first we saw a number of federal programs that were passed banning firearms banning drugs and alcohol in school campuses but then the schools have passed these zero tolerance policies in order to get more federal aid and so now it's almost like the government has helping to create this problem they weren't really monitoring this problem now the government is paid to gather statistics on a problem that they created and you know where do you go from there. well the first thing the federal government should do is force all of these schools to get rid of zero tolerance policies zero tolerance policies do not work it's garbage whatever happened to human judgment you have to be a human and judge every case that comes your way so if for instance i brought up a situation where a student brought scissors to class in order to work on an art project that's not
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a criminal got student as a great excuse for why they brought scissors to class you know you have to look at the context of the story is this student someone who has a history of violent behavior in the classroom now so why do you have zero tolerance policies when you can use human judgment when it comes to these situations so i think it's the federal government's responsibility to say zero tolerance policies don't work they're not making our schools safer in fact they're turning these innocent students into criminals so let's get rid of it that's their number one responsibility and i guess i'm jewish yeah that'll probably be a hard pill for them to swallow to say sorry i guess we kind of told you guys to do this and turns out that we were wrong but that's the other you know last that i want to bring up here which is interesting is that once they started actually compiling these statistics from the civil rights data collection then during the bush administration they just stopped doing it and so only now under the obama administration have they once again started looking at these statistics and they actually expanded it to look at this school to prison pipeline and the kids and go
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to and you know going into the excuse me to prison because of it and so you know what do you think that's about tail. well i think the bush administration failed on so many different things especially when it came to education of the country i mean every time you hear no child left behind you just want to laugh because it was a huge failure and right now the obama administration is doing what it can to basically repeal those no child left behind law speeches didn't make any sense and i honestly you know there are so many things that the bush administration did they got rid of comprehensive sex education based stop funding that and wanted to focus more on abstinence only education as a rock result more and more teen pregnancies started popping up all over the country so they failed them not well they had so many different policies that were a complete failure so it doesn't surprise me that they start tracking the numbers when it came to the school to prison pipeline i like that your budget ministration is looking at the numbers now and i really hope that they use this as an
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opportunity to get rid of zero tolerance policies because they just don't work. out i agree with you there i hope they do it here thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you. are coming up next on g.o.p. county is using an art perry says to keep certain candidates off the ballot so they win our tools on awards and on happy hour we have a breaking news update on the george washington if they can make that get the least shocking survey ever for bills that americans are the first all that with a black. people calling like you said for free and fair election. day and we're still reporting from the land where you can hear behind me loud explosions.
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you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then he lives something else and here's to some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. the same.
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feel. for. the book. all right guys it's time for tonight's truth on war and this time it's going to the republican party of south carolina for trying to reach purity requirements for running for office the last week the lawrence county republican party passed a resolution regarding the qualifications of candidates for the primary ballot and
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apparently that resolution included a twenty eight point pledge for presidential candidates to sign the pledge would be a promise by candidates to some of them are opposed to abortion in any circumstance and doris the ideas of balance state and federal budgets not have previously engaged in premarital sex remain faithful to the spouse not watch porn up hold the right to have guns all kinds of guns oppose same sex marriage how to commit to peace through strength in foreign policy and oppose affirmative action daryn looks like they forgot to include the white landowner or maybe that's one of the nineteen others that we don't know now initial reports suggested the any candidate running as a republican in lawrence county would be required to sign its pledge but bobby smith did you the county g.o.p. chair released a statement following those claims that they could not legally keep anybody off the ballot but smith also say they have the right to ask if republican candidates share
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the same values as the party and south carolina g.o.p. chairman chad connelly told them that some kind of vetting process definitely needs to be in place and he referred back to this moment from the ninety's as evidence of that. search for the. so clinton proved to americans that character doesn't matter but now we're finding out that character really does matter. i guess because only missed this race the allegation from newt's former wife that in just days before he congratulated newt on his victory in south carolina i said to him we've been married a long time. and. he said yes but you want me all to herself calista doesn't care what i do. yeah it's totally got a lot more moral authority in england and let's not forget of course the new the other candidates signed to marriage pledges to uphold the sanctity of marriage
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remain faithful to your wife oppose gay marriage. i find it look funny but the south carolina g.o.p. believes that a politician making a promise to allow them to enter into office actually means anything but actually feels the lawrence county g.o.p. might not really believe that the evidence points to the back of the plate is really an attempt to just keep a local sheriff who had had an affair after this particular ballot cheerfully chess team says he had an affair with a woman who worked there on and off for two years and what started in two thousand and eight and it'll probably last fall. so here we have a sheriff who ignored pressure from lawrence county g.o.p. to step down after the affair surfaced with sheriff who plans to run for his fourth term in the upcoming primary as a republican and the pieces start falling into place right back to the pledge itself or maybe faith of the spouse isn't the only noteworthy part of a promise to oppose affirmative action also kind of interesting right considering the lawrence county is the home of a controversial neo nazi clothing store run by
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a former k.k.k. leader the store sells white robes as well as other southern memorabilia but now i'm sure the race has nothing to do with that oppose affirmative action clause obviously not and the ban on premarital sex well i mean there's no words for that so if you're trying to make have that side of our cake period pledge then claiming that it wasn't mandatory when critics pointed out that it was illegal and actually just doing it all to possibly try to keep certain candidates off the ballot the lawrence county g.o.p. is tonight's bull's-eye i'm going. are you guys in time for happy hour and joining me this evening producer jenny churchill and then cohen editor of the daily banter hey guys thanks for coming on. rick santorum as always kind of crazy stuff that rick santorum says recently though
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we've heard him say a lot about how the breakdown of the family really is that the root of all evil is the biggest problem in society here's an example. but the biggest problem of poverty in america we don't talk about here because it's an economic discussion and that is the breakdown of the american family if you want to look at the poverty rate among families that have to have a husband and wife working in them it's five percent today a family decided by one person it's thirty percent today you can't have a lot of wealthy society if the family breaks down that basic unit of society and that needs to be included in the second operation. i think here it's about wealth and stuff but i think that if you just break that down and go back to one thousand nine hundred four when maybe he wasn't censoring himself a little bit because he wasn't on a national debate stage rick santorum actually said that we're seeing the fabric of the country fall apart but it's falling apart because of single moms if they're longer just the whole family it single moms and later he accused single mothers of simply breeding more criminals yeah it's kind of funny apparently rick santorum
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must've thought the ninety's didn't count because it seems like every absurd thing he ever said is like oh in the ninety's he said something even more ridiculous he also supported government run health care in the ninety's so he was off on some other planet. thing i think it's funny so you have republicans you talk about the values of. the critical bit system that makes it almost impossible to have a family you have to have two parents working two or three jobs. where people actually have time to have a marriage as well or even have kids these days. for everybody is to me. that they're saying that if you want to take the then you have to have to parent because they both have to work a job is just one parent just not having enough i think it's a point on to i feel like this is on a ladder at ploy for a man to feel better about the fact that they bail on their wives and kids and
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girlfriends when they get pregnant and this makes them feel a little better like no actually the women are terrible people who can raise their children on a train this is. they want to stay on and help raise their kids if they don't turn into a criminal that was the logic i mean i don't want to go it is crazy logic anymore because it doesn't make any sense let's we want you another g.o.p. candidate mitt romney we've seen him try to claim that he's the every man he's unemployed a lot of times and now looks like it's rubbing off on his wife take a look at what she said. we can be poor in spirit. and i don't i don't look and i don't even consider myself wealthy which is an interesting thing. she said that this morning on his poor in spirit i don't get it well that quote that taken out of context is kind of uncomfortable because she was talking about the fact that she has. and how tough it and you know she has realized that there's more important things in her life however no matter how poor in spirit she is she still has two
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hundred fifty million dollars and all of that money to put towards her treatment for him and feeling better for him and it's awful she has amassed but that's ridiculous. going to give and. it's so fun i just think as a couple i mean my used every single time they have a child. and there's this if you should be single but your questions you have one of the romneys is making it. shows that you know that is all that is sure but it is the party line is not goes on to talk about how she has riding horses helps with her and well people who are actually poor can't afford to have horses oh and then she won't tell how many horses she has because guess what it doesn't even know what rich is so you're a little bit between a rock and a whole place there's nothing they call it when you talk about any of this stuff without anyone jumping on them if she says you know she tries to sort of show empathy with with people. point of right if your whole one hundred fifty million
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dollars and probably nothing that you have as a part of your life is going to be something the average americans can relate to but i don't know like pretend that you like nascar instead of saying but you're only friends with the owners of nascar. that's just my take all right let's move on to really big breaking news update breaking news that we did the story earlier about this she can we cannot get this woman was trying to sell on e bay because it looked like george washington. and it turns out the good thing is actually sold. for eight thousand one hundred. dollars when i named it or would you pay eight grand for that washington. story with the. party they went so. maybe it makes. for a frozen chicken. trying to find out like i donated to charity then without having
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to buy it because when you get a really cool washington tonight well there's a few discrepancies in her story she claims that she kept the mc nugget in the freezer for three years there was no need to everyone knows that mcdonald's food does not decompose i need to be honest i'm a little concerned about that aspect also i never feared out what camp she was sending these thirty kids to i want to know like did this person and she sent them to a scientology camp i don't. know maybe at the camp is a question of the mcdonald's. and those that got drugs russians in those places and yeah i mean do you agree that because you were here we originally brought up this story and who was it without having last of course kevin had to ruin our part of it is all. on our parade i don't understand. americans i guess we kind of just the americans we stand out when we travel around
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the world apparently here's a little clip from your trip. to the sun in the sand beach crazy your insects are the c. . standard girls just guys like us looking for new girls. all right so new survey conducted by living social and mandalay research said that americans are the world's worst jurists and it's not even other people are saying it four thousand out of fifty six hundred respondents of the survey were americans themselves. i mean we're americans so we could obviously comment on this too but as a brit people and americans annoying i'm going to disagree i'm going to disagree with this other salute your stuff because i heard respondents women germans i'm going to i'm going to confess to being a citizen of the culture of course but people wanted to see if you were do you think the brits and we're all. americans are part of these periods i thought about
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it was really for me i spent a lot of money it was just like them when they go abroad the brits on the other. drives yeah i've seen a lot of abroad to buy wonder if it's just more of like the recent you know the more college kids you have studying abroad every year that people are getting used to more american b. and i i was wondering was this specific to people traveling you know like i don't know i mean i think that it depends on what area you're talking about like americans in mexico awful americans in italy maybe not so bad well no but the jersey shore people just like exactly thank you and i studied abroad in florence too and they were so well you maybe put a felt loading kind of thing right i mean i you know you know imagine that i guess americans just want to be number one and everything i don't know i find it really strange i guess we got to wrap it up but thanks for joining us tonight that's it for tonight's show thanks for tuning in admission come back tomorrow for a cia officer jack rice is going to be on to discuss secretary of defense leon
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