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well with. its technology innovation all these developments from around russia we've got the future covered. ten pm here in moscow these are the top stories from our t.v. series defying president vows to keep foreign forces out of the country as washington dismisses a military attack and other countries pull out in protest of the violence if as president obama makes a move for peaceful foreign policy several war hungry politicians stick to their guns calling for military action against tehran and damascus. putin says the forty five million votes the one is all the proof it needs for an independent group of russian observers claim the presidential polls flawed legal votes reported violations but won't take the allegations to court. i'm kevin over here of moscow tonight thanks for choosing us next there's no art in place for washington slackers
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yes it's time for tonight's alone a show. welcome to the lone show where we get the real headlines with none of the mercy from live in washington d.c. outside we're going to take a deeper look at the legal justification attorney general eric holder is trying to use but explaining why this is ministration thinks they can kill you then a new examination on the autopsy reports of two get mowed detainees raises questions as to whether or not their deaths are really suicides like the d.o.t. says answer to six released by the current department of education show that punishment in schools is not equal with black and hispanic students having a lot more of it so we're going to have all that and more for you tonight including a dose of happy hour but first take a look with the mainstream media has decided to miss.
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all right so it's a super tuesday big day in terms of elections which obviously means a big big deal for the mainstream media. all right live the big day folks super tuesday the voting is underway ten states in a one day i guess we're going to talk about first. tuesday it's here super tuesday ten states more than four hundred delegates formy contenders four hundred twenty four delegates are at stake oklahoma's going to be a big win for him if georgia has the most delegates it is done gingrich expects to win most of all the candidates are fanning out all over the country doing last minute campaigning to get to over thirty thirty five tonight and we'll consider that a pretty good night to super tuesday voters east of the mississippi already heading to the polls and they are casting votes now net romney and rick santorum in a statistical tie in ohio romney these are his targets thirty five plus out of ohio
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he can get that win or lose mitt romney and rick santorum are virtually tied in both ohio and tennessee tennessee fifteen plus one hundred nineteen delegates are at stake in the candidates are desperate to break free from the pack look at santorum schools thirty plus in losing he still needs to get if you wins the state he's got to figure out hope he can get thirty. so all day we're seeing statistics numbers delegate counts be broken down into my new detail while the mainstream media obsesses over that while simultaneously talking about the inevitability of mitt romney becoming the g.o.p. nominee and look at some things that always get left out in this kind of coverage and i know today i'm not going to talk about the money although that is also a big one so far it's been calculated that eleven point five million dollars have been spent by outside groups and the states now today i'd like to take a look at mitt romney's policies specifically his policy on education let's not forget the wall the mainstream media treats us like a horse race these people are actually running to be the president and the issues
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we can easily pick on them for flip flopping romney making it particularly easy or easier than the rest of the candidates of course issues like education don't often get discussed and i bring this up because there are new statistics out there showing that student loan debt is worse than previously thought one in four borrowers in fact have the only student loans now when you the problem is back we do have student loan debt past the one trillion dollars mark recently we knew that student loan debt had overtaken credit card debt in this country but this is just more bad news so in talking about education and student loan debt what does mitt romney have to say for starters if you go into his campaign website and look under the issues education isn't even on there so i guess about to tell us a lot to think about why it is that americans have so tries to this date we live in a society where parents counselors universities employers where everybody tells you that in order to get a good job you have to get a college degree universities across the country are mean time making
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a killing and charging insane prices because they know that no matter what no matter how much that is going to put you in people are going to pay and so unless you qualify for some kind of aid for a scholarship you're going to be forced to pay twenty to fifty thousand dollars a year for more exclusive private institutions the ivy leagues being more expensive expensive of course but who doesn't want to go to an ivy league when will makes it more likely for you to get a job according to romney though and what he said in the past about affordable education it's really easy to find other options. if you can't afford it scholarships are available shop around for make sure you go to a place that's reasonably priced and if you can think about serving the country because that's the way to get all the education for free. right so if you can afford it then does join the military this coming from the same kind of politician that calls for a constant military conflict but who would never have his own children serve because they can afford that top notch education but if we keep looking at romney's
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record he does offer one more solution to student loans who are proper universities romney claims that they actually hold down costs unfortunately that's just not true that average tuition and for profit colleges is nearly twice that of public four year universities nearly five times as much as public community colleges and that's all according to the department of education that only about twelve percent of college students nationwide attend for profit schools and the sector is responsible for more than forty five percent of federal student loan defaults and while only about one in five students at community colleges takes out loans to finance their tuition who are five students for profit two and four year schools sign off on loans also according to the department of education and the loans that these for profit schools are pretty happy to based on an analysis of federal data by the college board more than half of students attending four year for private colleges are going to emerge with debts of more than thirty thousand dollars compared to
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less than a quarter of students at private nonprofit colleges and twelve percent of students at public universities so this is mitt romney solution to our student loan debt problem everybody but i wonder what positives takes prove that for profit institutions in fact saddle students with more debt i don't support them i guess the answer is always follow the money twice romney has endorsed a full sale university this is a for profit institution in florida where by the way constitution runs more than eighty thousand. but what i didn't mention is that full sales chief executive a man named bill have heard he's a major campaign donor and the cochairman of his state fund raising team in florida on top of that he and his wife and each given the maximum twenty five hundred dollars to romney's campaign and he gave forty five thousand dollars to restore our future the super pac run by former romney aides to bolster his campaign so like i
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said follow the money there ladies and gentlemen is how this presidential candidate plans on tackling one of the biggest issues facing this country generations saddled with debt and the problem is if you want to run education like it's a business i'm sorry but it just doesn't work that way so all i'm saying is it would be nice if we were a little more in the mainstream media know what exactly these candidates are proposing rather than just playing with maps that show delegates but these kinds of things they choose to. yesterday i gave you my two cents on attorney general eric holder speech outlining why this administration thinks of bacon extra judicially execute u.s. citizens abroad speaking to a roomful of law students and faculty at northwestern university holder said that the u.s. government has the right to order the killing of u.s. citizens abroad if they're senior al qaeda operatives who pose an imminent terrorist threats and cannot reasonably be captured and we did this without
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specifically mentioning a lot the or without releasing the legal memos the administration allegedly used in that case another standout line was the president is required to get permission from a federal court before he takes this kind of action because according to this administration due process and judicial process are not one in the same especially when it comes to national security and all this was presented by the ensuring the general as an indicator of our times not a departure from our laws and our values because that possibly be any more wrong i think that charles pierce wrote it best yesterday when he said that that statement is a quote monumental pile of crap that should embarrass every democrat who ever said an unkind word about john you so joining me from our studio in new york is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess i want to break some of these issues down legally with you you've got the better legal mind than i
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do that's for sure but just overall what did you think of his speech yesterday. bad effort i give him a failing grade frankly a big disappointment remember all this starts started with broad public demand picked up by newspapers around the country by members of congress by legal experts to release the overall scene memorandum a fifty page memo that set out the legal policies for these targeted killings and we know that inside the justice department there was strong sentiment to do exactly that that appears that eric holder wanted to do that there was pushback coming from the intelligence community and then as a compromise it was decided eric holder will go out said well he won't publish the memorandum but you know he'll give us a good solid synopsis of this memo in the speech and it looks like he started out
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with a speech that was going to do just that in the speech got pulled back and pulled back and pared and edited and we wound up with nothing effectively i mean what we heard in the speech at northwestern was essentially whether the already been leaked what it appeared in articles by by charlie savage and others absolutely nothing new no real depth of analysis and then the this presentation of some of the legal issues was just muddled that's all you can say all right so let's get into some of those legal issues one of the things that hold their claims is that due process and you to show process that these are two separate things and he also claimed that a recent court decision basically it's sad that the president doesn't need to get off already from the courts before if he wanted to act as if this had to do with al qaeda operative that was overseas but then a lot of people are pointing out that if you actually look at the supreme court case which was hamdi versus rumsfeld that's not even true. well that's
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right i mean let's just start with the due process issue he's saying we are providing due process we've got procedures set up inside the administration with rules there will be a pride in these cases and by the way we're not going to tell you an awful lot about how that procedure operates and and who's making the decisions he's right but he says there's a recent federal court case that's the case itself where a federal judge in washington while chiding the administration over its handling of this said nevertheless they didn't have to get judicial approval in advance but let's go back to this fundamental point and the anglo american tradition of law will law that's based on a recognition of fundamental rights we have what was called the principle of liberty and that said you don't deprive an individual of his freedom or his life
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without going to a court that there is a judicial check on that process and i think what you're seeing here is a circumvention of that very fundamental rule and the law historically has really only permitted one clear circumvention of that we're all about is in wartime with decisions that are made on the battlefield where you fire at one of your adversaries it was always viewed as some things privilege so i think what we've seen here is sort of a conflation of these things a sort of mishmash in the back room kitchen to create a new set of rules that is putting this new authority and the hands of the executive but we also have to go back and say you know this is not just in the making of the obama administration this represents a new approach to war making this whole procedure of targeted killings it's becoming a more and more important part of the defense strategy of the united states recognized as such in recent piracy papers by. department defense of that goes back to the
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bush administration and indeed a lot of this seems to have been put in place under the tutelage of dick cheney so here we see one of dick cheney's ideas being rather prizing carried forward briber obama and his attorney general eric holder and this is of course a problem when the entire world becomes your battlefield and you know it's attorney general eric holder claims that this is not a stepping away from our values or our laws or our ideals but i can't see you know the notion that really this is some small committee that then sends some information out to the president who then you know laterally decides whether they're going to execute this american citizen or not as anything but a huge removal from our values and ideals but i thought it was interesting to eric holder yesterday said that those who choose to use the word assassination he said that it's misplaced he said it isn't belong in this discussion what's your take
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completely wrong about that i mean i think that was one of the big giveaways. he said the assassination is another lawful killing in fact it's not i think this this tells you what's going on with this speech that is some professional p.r. analysts got their hands on that and decided to mold and shape it and use language that they thought would go over well with the public and maybe it does but they gives you a very muddled idea of the law and how the law applies i think besides as another really good example is this whole idea of immediacy so he tells us there has to be in the media threat to the united states or u.s. interests to justify the use of this authority and then i think we as we see going through the speech he doesn't use immediate the way most people would you know immediate can be sometime in the course of the next year. yeah that is definitely
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a problem not to mention this part i found interesting to you he said first that this person has to pose an imminent threat and then in the same speech he also says the constitution does require the president to delay the action until there is some theoretical stage of planning is what he calls it where we know the precise time date location of an attack that might be planned so in essence in that sense it really doesn't have to be immediate right this can be a preemptive preventative. i think that that's really the only sensible construction to place on this because practically speaking what's going on here you know we have but let's call it the death committee you know we have that term used in the health care debate metaphorically but here it's quite literally there are death committees that review these things and give approval and give authorization and then we see the implementation may take many many months and during that period of time there's no need to go back to this committee to revisit the question of
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immediacy we're told because it made the decision at one point that's it but we are also told that in the process of targeting and implementing they have to take into account humanity proportionality and these other considerations of course that's right that's what the law of war requires but i think there's another very important legal factor that got to righted from eric holder speech and that is the importance of being accurate of not making mistakes he says that there's a very important legal opinion called matthews that set out the factors he says they're following them and then he proceeds not to mention one of the most important factors in that opinion and that is accuracy and being sure that you're not making a mistake in the fact we know that these that these targeted killings have been carried out many times on the basis of false information u.s. government has acknowledged that so that's a huge problem and a legitimate concern even for people who would agree that the president should have
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into the exercise this power guys definitely a lot of problems in the speech a lot to take on but it's also really scary and you would think that's a day when the president gave his first press conference of the year he would get one question about it at least and not a single line we haven't really heard democrats anything out so i find it to be disappointing and disturbing all the way around scott thanks so much for joining us tonight. great to be with you. now it's time for our first break of the evening but when we come back recently released autopsy reports the questions about the suicides of two inmates accounts on the ring to speak the truth out jeffrey kay well why we should be skeptical of the government's of the full story of. the. russian would be soon which rises if you move some from funds to the pressure.
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these stunts on t.v. don't come. just last week we told you about a string of arrests in several south american countries to the hacktivist group anonymous and this week looks like the feds are taking on one of the groups within the movement well sect so while since we've heard much from the greyhounds let me refresh your memory also took down credit card companies and pay pal they also waged d.d. o. s. attacks on fox news the us senate so you think yours and p.b.s. websites here when there was
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a reports of literally late rapper tupac alive and well in new zealand all that was one of those six it's as well personal favorite of ours but documents were unveiled on tuesday from new york federal court show that five people allegedly linked to moles have been charged and interestingly enough there's a six person in the group who's already pleaded guilty and was that possible well apparently he was caught last summer and according to the f.b.i. he's been working as an informant ever since that's right activist turned mall informant question might sound familiar you may better know him as sabu and we've mentioned him several times in the past his moto even calls him the most notorious and influential hacker well turns out and saw who's twenty eight twenty eight year old hector javier of new york father of two he's been leading hackers from his residence in a public housing project in new york and according to the feds turning around and then feeding info to them since two assad also reportedly managed to give enough information on the other hackers to help the f.b.i. press charges against them i'm not so happy hackers who were arrested are ryan
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ackroyd. who's number one his aide is second in command according to fox news taylor was the one who figured out how vulnerable the u.s. senate security system was leading to the senate web site being hacked in a short time later davis better known as topiary also amongst the captured hackers and in fact he was arrested back in july and won't face charges from the f.b.i. until now he's arrested by scotland yard after he took part in a cyber attacks against wiki leaks companies like visa master card and pay pal they decide to cut off allowing financial services to go to them i spoke with him over a year ago about the hack and hit. these companies have. paypal for example has stopped funding but we can be tricky phones from wiki leaks and they refused to get them but they have given them but you know but we believe this was not really knocked they want to do they were forced to do it and we're not a malicious group we were doing this for a reason we're doing it for a reason for the freedom of information and speech. now they're also to rest out of
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ireland there and martin who's moniker is own sauce and. bell who goes by palladium online but the last hacker facing charges of stronger ties to anonymous jeremy hammond. and our chaos resides in chicago and he's supposedly the person behind the apple december and here's an interesting tidbit uncovered by the guardian today when sabri was talking with an r k also about the structure leak so i would offer an f.b.i. own server to keep all the information and as the guardian points out this would mean that the f.b.i. would be able to search and possibly amend the info that was shared so we could also give the u.s. the key that it needs to bring charges against making leaks because remember there's still a grand jury investigation underway in alexandria virginia so the obvious question here is what do these arrests mean for the group as a whole both anonymous and also proven resilience to previous arrests which is one of the major reasons that they've always stuck with a format where members are loosely affiliated and last week we saw alleged members
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of anonymous get arrested by interpol they retaliated or after an important us to gauge and they retaliated with attacks on interpol's website as well as police websites in the countries where those hackers were arrested so all the f.b.i. figures out what to do with the hackers they've arrested we're just going to sit back and wait for them to show us what their next move might be. now what we know there are seven hundred seventy nine prisoners who were sent to guantanamo bay under the bush administration so they hundred seventy one remain some been transferred to release all the one has been brought to trial in the united states and sentenced to life in prison and eight have died at the prison and the circumstances surrounding some of those deaths are mysterious. the least and a cause for debate and calls for investigations they will take a look at the deaths of two detainees abdul rahman in may of two thousand and seven and mohamed al fayed abilify. in two thousand and nine both were labeled as suicide by the partnership defense but autopsy reports released last year and so recently
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and examined raise questions as to whether these are really suicides or something else so joining me to discuss this is geoffrey kay psychologist and contributor for truthout or geoffrey and i started back on the show and i guess first tell me why it is that if this information these autopsy reports are released last year they went on examine for so long or really only finding out about it now well that's a very good question and it means really the. these arguments were heard of a little hungry and we. were mostly pretty easy all you posted on the. web sorry i'm not sure how many months it while. i was probably not on a story. we are now. on the suicide reported suicide of my arm with open arms. to see. how many honestly we heard about release ensuring our program. was there much to
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my surprise. i mean some inside. me. some rooms i thought were was. well let's talk about briefly some of the details to about the case of. they say he was found because he had hung himself and this is a suicide but then the report also found that he had his own hands tied behind his back and you know what other pieces of the puzzle don't quite make sense there. right well it's a very rare occurrence. someone has found things and so there can't be right behind your back i mean the thing to do and then it's not easy to think you are the new some to hang yourself going to do not unprecedented in my review of the literature but it's rare and in fact. almost programs like authorities will agree
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that back warrants. least investigation through a constable homicide there's no indication that the department did that or autopsy reports with the conclusion of suicide was released a little over wasn't released was completed over a little over a week. there were other aspects. in the autopsy report all hungry that were also. one of them had to do with the fact that they claim that he has been the use of a razor with passion and used to bring him some but razors are not you've been to guantanamo between use and they're very closely monitored so those days when they are given they're in the shower. separate a laundry with a special looted segregated prisoner. and those prisoners were not even will be different races during the shower period so there's some question as to how he got a razor. and how it wasn't discovered during the route. because of the
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things we know between. well yeah i was i was a lot less calm about the other case with not he had been somebody who you mentioned and i wonder if you think that this might be a cause for motivation somebody who was the representative considered a leader amongst the detainee at who it partake in numerous hunger strike the which there is a horrible method where they were then a force feeding him at the same time he was supposed to be under constant supervision right where there was twenty four hour camera surveillance where they were checking on him every five minutes what happened there. well that's true too by the way of the lottery the prisoners were supposed to be under current studio surveillance and they're instructed on every five minutes of the. me that they've told other records but also not shoot supposedly. which back and.
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not honestly even though supposedly an elastic band permits underwear to wrap it around his neck and then strangle himself to death well like. time and stand behind one so strangulation is a very rare way. and you have to be able to secure the ligature around your neck so that it doesn't. hurt when you lose consciousness. the autopsy report didn't claim how that was done except to say he twisted the elastic band any kind of nodded and said the report can't even keep its story straight because at one point he says he did it on the right hand side and another pointed as he did it on the left inside. the underwear is another i mean my article is dog or gun this is chock full of different facts calling into question the actual circumstances are these the same. the underwear is not her to the autopsy
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report about the nashi resort rate for ease of use the elastic band and many many women actually know about. the last one in fact i discovered in two thousand and two. they had two. thousand and six to a size that we beat thingy and they changed the type of underwear that was being used because of all suicide risk and change them to the bar jeffrey i have to tell you lots of got ahead a break here but i direct my backbone to go read your article because you do break it down an extensive detail here how many problems there are. and yet now investigations not to mention even if these weren't suicides you have to talk about the conditions that these people are being held and so thanks so much for joining us tonight. i will take a short break we'll be right back wealthy british soil.
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