they've already proved that they're willing to walk the walk when it comes to tensions with iran but are they ready to talk the talk it's a last ditch effort for diplomacy coming as the drums for war with iran even louder . what's happening in syria is hard work and rages and what you've seen is the international community mobilize against the assad regime from iraq to afghanistan libya and beyond u.s. intervention abroad doesn't exactly have a stellar record and now u.s. lawmakers have sat there are sites on syria but are we just setting ourselves up for failure if well it's a good sort of forces or lauren term. begins with. their

defense and it looks like the u.s. has a bone to pick where just about everyone one hundred eighty three armed conflicts over the span of two hundred thirty six years i'll let you do the math which country is the war flavor of the day well this us versus the world mentality come back to bite us in the end. it's thursday march eighth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz of all you're watching artsy. a shot at diplomacy iran has agreed to take part in nuclear talks a country willing to engage in face to face negotiations after facing intense pressure from israel and the west to abandon their nuclear program this comes as the drums of war are beating louder as israel's air and sea with military force and targets iran's nuclear site president obama has said that military intervention is

on the table but wants to get sanctions time to work and diplomacy a shot so as a diplomatic solution really possible at this point our country failure to negotiate leads to more justification to go to war and help answer this reza marashi research director for the national iranian american council welcome to the show reza so the goshi asians are on the table are you optimistic that that this can work i mean i'm always cautiously optimistic that the columns you can be successful with the process that if you invest in over a sustained period of time then the two parties will eventually be able to figure out how to a meeting of the minds can become possible but to after three decades of little or no communication between iran and the united states there's no question that it's going to be a very challenging path that we all sides are facing and you know i think the being on the precipice of war has really focused the attention of various decision makers in various capitals and focus them specifically on the need for all parties to compromise and likely see the introduction to the show so talking the talk is one

thing but now it's time to walk the walk and in the run up to these negotiations taking place there's a lot of backroom politicking going on to see if we can make this happen so i'm optimistic but can we do you think we can expect any significant breakthroughs i mean do you think iran will really have bandon its its nuclear program and its entirety like israel wants it to do it's a great question i mean there's a difference between what the united states and the international community asking for and what the israelis would prefer and these negotiations are going to be an opportunity to figure out how to try and square that circle i think it's safe to say that any honest and objective analyst would agree going to run along to give up its nuclear program in its entirety but it. agree to limitations that are monitored and verified by the international atomic energy agency those are two very different things and are moving forward it's going to be a process that's predicated on trying to get on the same page during our what are the kind of compromises that all parties can live with and if we don't reach the kind of compromise that i think all parties would like then we're in we're going to

be in a lot of trouble because the push for war isn't going to stop and that is what the fear is that if these negotiations spay our at there is not a diplomatic solution that will further justify going to war with iran that's true but i think it's a bit of a false premise when people put that idea forward because the policy isn't supposed to produce instant success you're supposed to invest in a process over a sustained period of time where confidence building measures that are reached in the interim can facilitate trust building because there's a huge trust gap right now between iran and the united states so it's an reasonable even president obama himself said it's unreasonable to expect quick success but investing in this process over an extended period of time can yield results and i'm confident that if all parties come to the table with the best of intentions which they should now given that the conversation has turned war we can reach a peaceful solution to this crisis and as you just said diplomacy should take time will most likely need time in order to work but israel doesn't want time or doesn't

want to give iraq more time because they're afraid that more time means it's going to let iran develop their nuclear program and actually obtain a weapon so they want this to happen quickly they do. even when i was serving in the u.s. government the israelis were one of a handful of countries that were never really interested in giving diplomacy a fair shake and that's one of the many reasons why is really interested on the line with the obama administration interests on the iran issue. there and they've got a very good job of trying to take actions that would lessen the possibility of diplomacy being successful but the obama administration understands better than anyone right now what's at stake and. he should be commended that over the last forty eight seventy two hours he's taken multiple steps publicly and privately to push back and i'm hoping that we're going to see more of that continue because if it doesn't they're going to continue to try to bully him and in the event that the talks fail could it speed up the process of military intervention i mean it certainly could i mean defining failure is going to be something that i think all parties at the

negotiating table and the israelis who won't be at the table are going to try to do if the talks don't produce even a modicum of success in the interim but that being said because the parties realize what's at stake right now. defining failure is going to be a lofty task for people that are at the table including the israelis and i think the parties that are after table are taking the necessary precautions and laying the necessary groundwork to try to ensure the best they can that that one case and we are hearing a lot of this very extreme war rhetoric coming from israel do you think that they really want to find it diplomatic solution to this or is it possible that they are pretty sad and wanting to go to war with iran was very interesting when you look at public opinion polling the israeli population nearly sixty percent not supporting military action if it's not done in tandem with the united states and that's very different than the words of the rhetoric that we're hearing from the us and yahoo government in israel so there is a bit of

a schism i think the obama administration stands at the international community understands that and they're going to utilize it to its advantage to try and beat the israeli pressure back a little bit and you know put put the proverbial while there my back in the cage now i want to bring attention iran's top leader today it's hailing president obama are advocating diplomacy he's calling it a window of opportunity he also sat quote this expression is a good word this is a wise remark indicating taking distance from allusion so does this provide some hope especially since he does have a final say on matters within the country but things are so bad between the united states and iran right now that. any little thing that resembles this could be considered a positive step like we were discussing earlier actions are going to speak louder than words and i think it's time for not only the supreme leader of iran but also the president of the united states and everybody else ought to be sitting around that negotiating table to get serious and to invest in a process of peace because none of the governments involved in this crisis have

been very honest with their populations about what the cost of war would be and i think if they were informed properly of what those costs would be or anything even close to what those costs would be they would adamantly oppose it all right well let's that this could be a separate at least in the right direction hopefully the talks will lead to diplomatic solution and it does not. have actually happened thank you so much for coming on the show is that raise a mirage research director for the national iranian american council. well the white house says it wants a diplomatic solution in syria but is considering military intervention in the country and the pentagon has been ordered to review its options according to officials this includes enforcement of a no fly zone defense secretary leon panetta says a long term sustained air campaign could pose a challenge because syria's air defenses are more sophisticated than libya's but as r.t. is maria from notional reports foreign interference in the syrian conflict is raising

fears of an even bigger crisis. as the syrian conflict stretches out to find it has also spread geographically i case will be rising up out far from the country's borders what's happening in syria is far greater and gracious and what you've seen is the international community mobilize against the assad regime strategic analyst dr something says one thing is clear though it's certainly gone far beyond the words of sympathy and the cotton to those on the ground in syria but mobile isolation has many more forms than officially stated in the radio radio baba amr the syrian army arrested fighters from gulf countries in afghanistan iraq libya and some european states their work was coordinated by qatari and saudi intelligence officers as well as cia mossad and a black water agency but it's also seized it's really weapons especially and take a quick missiles and israeli drones the u.s. defense contractor formerly known as blackwater and now called academy was

notorious for its heavy handed tactics during operations in iraq and pakistan while the u.s. and many other countries have admitted al qaeda linked extremists groups fighting alongside the armed opposition in syria dr salim says some countries are using those groups to further their own interests. to get local players involved in order to hide their involvement and this is why we hear mostly arabs like saudi arabia and qatar or iran these countries don't have democracy at home of course they cannot ask for a status thing in syria they have another agenda. there are books and written sources where this plan is described in detail decades ago and had of course never blogger and freelance journalist has been investigated for a new serious crisis since last year but she says this is a story with three main chapters often smuggled across the border overseas

contractors and foreign cash. when you see a lot of money. this is comparable to what happened. there were plenty of money then you will find that the book about pandas bill bellowed something little you would consult for them now you would see now this is the civil war here in syria with more and more reports on international involvement emerging and calls to the opposition gets louder even for those at the grassroots of the uprising initial euphoria. of the news. we can see we regret what we did but we don't want things to go that could be turned so much militarized. don't intervention. such fears are. it's could be too late to stop this all too far into flames of

conflict. damascus syria so as the u.s. considers intervening in syria it may want to take a look at libya nato intervened there and say the country remains torn apart just this week a region in eastern libya declared there sammy are tanami tribal leaders cited their new state will come with its own parliament and police force but it is national transitional council doesn't want to let this happen and the transitional leader says he is willing to use military force to ensure the country doesn't split up so what the struggles to find stability is it all a sign that foreign military intervention simply doesn't work even landmen writer and host of progressive radio news hour joins us now to talk more about this welcome to the show stephen. so libya's future remains dangerously answer and are they any closer to achieving democracy. well when nato intervenes

to lose so last thing wanted is the marker seen in america is this note about mistakes. jewish bushehr their predecessors he said we don't tolerate what we see in america why on earth were they tolerated in iraq and afghanistan in libya syria is a common thing a common element there all of these countries when nato intervenes nato by the way is not a liberator nato twenty eight countries nato is a killing machine it was peace and believe me i heard before needle showed up east exactly the same thing in syria nato by the way exactly intervening in syria we can get there later but libya turkey nato term libya it toward charitable us violence is reaching constantly throughout the nato

campaign it's been reaching since the campaign allegedly start. killing goes on every single day libya is a tribal country tribes there are a lot of local influence and you get these killer games these these ex turly trained western supported it's true he generated killer games reached across libya they still do if state territories in different parts of the country they won't do for what they did for nato. ally what. is that what will it be certainly haven't been very much for them so far he said use them train them and the libyan people have suffered really. now we see the fate of turmoil that libya ever entered does this serve as proof that foreign

military intervention doesn't work. oh it absolutely doesn't work and calling it a revolution is a misnomer calling syria revolution is a misnomer in both cases the model is the same in both countries the difference between them is nato is knife for syria but don't put it past them to do it nato of course beginning last march nineteenth coming up on the anniversary very shortly after the one year anniversary nato will be a handful i mean but there are games ravish live here you rabbits ravaging syria. and who knows where this will lead to with a common theme is always the same these were independent countries they had nothing to do with whether they made him a critic but despite they were independent and the common theme is to replace independent regimes with the west him claim regime that's what they wanted it would

be putting in with a puppet national transitional council in libya you've got a syrian national transitional council pick on three in turkey say my dear sarah appreciate him with no legitimacy no way actions if elections there are scheduled in libya sure when it'll be meaningless they'll be a loser e there will be. western leaders that were there for. years i don't call it that way did. you lose the real recruit process to install pro-west and leaders and with the prime minister it live right here with what will convictions he's the appointed prime minister you've got mustafa joey or the chairman of the m.p.c. he's a western stooge trader and the libyan people this by these people they want nothing

to. do with them so you don't think libya is any better off after the death of the long time that they're malarkey. oh no and. they yearn to get. their social wonderful benefits opium free education free healthcare free housing free stuff for newlyweds it wears on in order moment it was all thought about the people on the east area now trying to break away from libya because they weren't getting back the same treatment as as the rest of the country well your do was give us your little ones so he stirred up but i wouldn't say against the regime he came down very. most of them will look a. senior and those of the coterie he certainly warranted because it was. in the core of. libya before looking before the needle campaign because

after beginning with a very here. all lonely support in the mall of nato the greater good earthy support became even even a london paper his london guardian wrote but your phone number in the us media and we simply wanted people tree it is a brutal guess but it were false stories betrayed him he filled his military sources. so you can do mass reached al-jazeera reported the story it was a fair critique it in libya was peaceful and until nato show exactly the same thing in syria now i do want to talk about syria may be secretary of defense leon panetta sad this yesterday about the situation. although we will not rule out any future course of action currently the administration is focusing

on diplomatic and political approaches rather than military intervention guided by our approach from libya and elsewhere. this has guided by our approach from libya and elsewhere i mean looking at what's happening over in libya is intervening in syria really a good idea it's a terrible idea and sacks saying. i would like to define what america calls diplomacy from there a little bit. and i have to do out of the way. to try to lose maybe a little intervening in syria nato is you know so many weeks maybe months cie has the britons in my city says they're special forces from france from america from here.

and he just makes it in the news if people in america old media need to use their rules they receive a word about this this is who we have been tempted in the last in the last week or so hundred i. don't mean to interrupt you there we're just out of time thank you very much for coming on the show that with even london writer and host of progressive radio news hour. is. how the u.s. now in the process of weighing its options of intervention in syria chants about the dangers of iran getting louder and louder on politicians than the mainstream media but america's extensive war history we take a lock or have a country it's been an american we had our things on our part. fish are a popular pet among us war veterans like mathis sure wrote some of the nerves of some of the roughly one hundred seventy thousand american soldiers suffering from

post-traumatic stress disorder the u.s. army flag has one hundred eighty three campaign ribbons on those one hundred eighty three ribbons each represent wars when you compare that to the way the two hundred thirty six years that we've actually been around as a country you're talking about you know a war on average once every year and three months serving americans are permanent standby to deploy to carry out warfare on command as the u.s. has a bone to pick one enemy after the other from the saw the union in the choppiness threat was the most useful enemy where we are legitimate and we are completely fantastical it was always available and is able conspiracy against which to justify any smaller untag it is after the cold war the list keeps expanding allied air forces began an attack on military targets in iraq in kuwait airstrikes against

serbia in the forces our war on terror. begins with striking selective targets of military importance that undermine saddam hussein's ability to wage war we ship it out these air defenses with a defense budget that surpasses the military expenditure of all other countries combined. no other nation drums of war as consistently as america and while people are still responding and recovering from the violence that's going in one place or even in the same place we're launching new operations and more atrocities in different parts of the world the military industrial complex where billions of dollars is largely america's driving force. deeply rooted in the system it would serve no purpose if there was no one to fight if there were no more enemies there would be. ross of a sense of mission frightening thought to many as this would reveal the economic social and cultural emptiness at home i wrote here was a country when there are no enemies trying to put together the evil empire again do

in syria what we're doing now in libya we've got to overthrow this guy the threat that iran poses a year in and year out americans are convinced that the u.s. has to remain on the defense or petrified of death by terrorism so should i don't think i think a lot of americans wish we'd spent more money on war finding the next target is never difficult we're inventing the nation of iran as an enemy as a threat to the united states says the sister of nuclear weapons it is not. nation that has not attacked another in literally century send has no capability or desire to attack ours maybe the weather might sort of work with iran iran is the war in iran it should be iran the us has been picking and choosing which countries to intervene in for centuries as the list of nations that america loves to hate expands the concept that no work more is also an option seems to have been for

about the situation i heard see. how to talk more about why america seems to be so gung ho about going to war then check their filmmaker and blogger at news de sac there dot com dot net welcome to the show so right here you think america is addicted to war. well from the ship from the halls of montezuma to the shores of tripoli that's how the u.s. marine corps anthem begins as a sort of a global salute to its own war making powers that have gone on for you know well over one hundred fifty years in various parts of the world united states has become an empire really not just a nation it has interests all over the world it has troops and and bases and military relationships and in well over one hundred fifty countries and so this is really something that's not just the militarism but it has actually concrete

purpose it takes care of supporting american interests it creates and generates jobs for americans and this military industrial complex actually is very functional for the united states it's a form of pentagon socialism we're government funding creates jobs but there's nobody there to criticize it as you know a stimulus programs that don't work they want more pentagon spending republicans do but so do the democrats then who benefits from going to war. well you know in the short run people who are finding jobs in the military do they can't find jobs in other industries so many jobs have been outsourced so a career in the military seems at first to be very helpful and very positive a lot of young people are signing up it's a volunteer army because they're being told about all the benefits and the

educational benefits to follow but then what happens is as they get into combat and into various conflicts around the world they suffer a higher level of casualties post-traumatic stress and the breakup of their families and this leads to all these violent incidents we keep hearing about about returning soldiers beating or killing their wives or their families oh this isn't a kind of a violence that is unchecked and it has a long history in america starting with wars on other nations right here the indian nations who were conquered by the american military at the very beginning you know of this of this country now were there any do you think oftentimes they it's a diversion that going to war is a diversion from the problems in our own country whether they're social or economic we have plenty of both problems today. well you know it can be it's interesting

that donald trump who's you know certainly his right wing as as they come is accusing the obama administration of planning a war on iran to help his reelection bid others on the left have been saying something similar that if obama is not doing well by october it's likely that some sort of war might start as a way to unify the public let's hope not but there is strategic options you know nothing has been left off the table and there's a functional reason for that war is rarely a population they give people a sense of importance a sense of power and you know often it leads to tremendous disappointment but oh well it's going on you know we can point and say we're number one in america number one until we're not anymore well then what oh well it's ok to

go to war that when is it acceptable. well first of all war is supposed to be released in our country a defensive that is to see that we've been attacked or are being attacked congress then has to sign off on the war there has to be a declaration of war but what's happening increasingly is that war is being fought covertly secretly without the knowledge or support of congress or the support of the american people and we have these deployments keep taking place in many countries that americans have never even heard of all of the justified in the name of national security but it shows our insecurity or exile u.-t. about the world and about america's losing position of preeminence in it and certainly there's a lot of anxiety today when it comes to iran hopefully it doesn't get to that point danny thank you so much for coming on the show that was danny schechter filmmaker

and blogger at newsday sector nat's well below the show is coming up in just a half an hour let's check in with a loan it to see what's on today's agenda a lot of what we look forward to their lives well first of all we're going to have congressman dennis kucinich come on the show don't forget on tuesday it wasn't just super tuesday for the presidential election but also congressman for the senate and that losing out in the primary to another democrat marcy kaptur so we're going to have to ask him who now is going to hold the progressive mantle in congress once he's going to have to go and also if you've noticed lately everyone's going crazy over this viral video it's a documentary put out there about just a pony the leader of the l r a and uganda and so everyone's talking about it it's has thirty seven million views i believe right now on you tube we're going to break down some of the details that you need to know about this video the truth about the situation and some of the shady practices that some feel there are when it comes to the finance.