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not going to be alone show at the real headlines with none of them or see them live in washington d.c. now if i were to speak to gary weiss about jobs numbers and his new book and ran nation to see it for philosophy i go to movements and of the words and actions of republican lawmakers but we do see it there but what really happened if they were allowed to take it all the way then the us not get a stat of reach a deal on the transfer of prisoners at parwan to afghan control but just how good of a deal is it and what is of the drives one to be
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a whistleblower to risk their life their reputation amongst other consequences and speak to all press about his new book beautiful souls and tries to answer that question of all that morphy tonight putting a dose of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to. all right so today we got jobs numbers for the month of february and overall the news was actually pretty good. thank you where we report shows strong job growth for a third straight month but not enough to bring down the unemployment rate new numbers out today point to more solid progress in the jobs market the nation's jobless rate l.c.d. in february at eight point three percent about two hundred twenty seven thousand jobs were created last month added two hundred twenty seven thousand jobs to the u.s. economy in the month of february it was private sector hiring companies hiring the drove the jobs numbers a lot of jobs added in the service sector which includes everything from
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restaurants and hotels to healthcare firms financial companies to employers added two hundred twenty seven thousand jobs in february that's better than most economists expect is good jobless rate has exceeded eight percent for thirty seven straight months that is the longest stretch on record and now we've got revisions the bigger picture is even a little bit better it got better than expected december january and february now is about two hundred twenty seven thousand jobs created two hundred twenty seven thousand jobs created that's a little better than the wall street consensus the unemployment rate held steady point three percent. now let me just give you a few more figures to round this out six which measures the marginally attached discouraged workers also dropped last month or fifteen point one to fourteen point nine percent also explains why the unemployment rate stayed the same despite more jobs being added because more people are entering into labor force and the wonder of people who are long term unemployed meaning of they've been out of work for more than twenty seven weeks that fell from five point five million to five point four
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million so overall this is good news for the economy it shows that some semblance of recovery is actually visible doesn't mean that things are rosy if the economy were to keep adding about two hundred fifty thousand jobs a month by election day we would still have eight percent official unemployment and it doesn't mean that certain groups are more affected than others this is still considered a lost decade for young people who are entering into the labor force and wages for entry level workers have consistently fallen throughout the last ten years. but i want to zero in on a little point we've brought up many times before on this show we're so much emphasis on the private sector hiring the private sector creating the jobs not the government and yet last year we saw the unemployment rate was only getting worse as private sector hiring was offset by massive levels of layoffs on the federal level and especially on the state government level let's not forget that since president obama took office more than five hundred thousand government jobs have been lost
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last year government jobs are being shot across the board at around twenty two thousand each month kind of a drastic effect on the unemployment rate and the private sector just wasn't making up for it plain and simple we were seeing the effects of austerity and the truth the matter is that it wasn't pretty and it wasn't helping would you see a change emerging this year however in january and february there were still government jobs lost don't get me wrong but comparatively the number was much much lower it was seven thousand total so what do you know kind of liberate staying steady not getting lower but isn't something you'll see mentioned on any of the news networks today they for some reason don't want to connect the dots show you the bigger picture that bigger cuts austerity what we saw across the country last year has a negative effect the policies actually have an effect so we're going to get into what a complete disappearance of government could mean it was scary unequal world that would be our next interview but for now i'll just leave you with this tidbit that the mainstream media chose to miss.
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are now aside from jobs numbers there are a couple other stories out there that we need to discuss just about things into perspective for you a new government accountability office report shows that almost half of bailed out banks repaid the government with money from other federal programs as in all taxpayers have been suffering republicans have been on a campaign to cut government help for them the banks here playing their swindling game and using all the government help they can find to pull a fast one. the rest of us that and of global executives are still expected to get their bonuses hundreds of thousands of dollars despite that whole scandal where they lost almost two billion dollars worth of customer cash and unfair world we get that but how much worse could it be if one philosophy really took root well joining me from our studio in new york is gary weiss columnist and author of and brand nation the hidden struggle for america's soul carrie thanks so much for joining us tonight i guess first you know let's just go back to these jobs numbers that we got
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for the month of february if you had to break it down what's your takeaway. oh my takeaway is that things are getting better you know but as you point out you know there was a terrible decline in the number of public sector jobs and you know public sector is going to continue to be under attack and it's going to help keep unemployment high and that that might endanger obama's chances of re-election but do you think we might start seeing that slow down you know like i mentioned last year twenty thousand jobs a month were being shed from the public sector seems like that's kind of petering out for now it seems to be but i think that the public sector is going to continue to be under attack it's been very politicized and as a result of i think largely as i point out my book is read largely a result of the radical right and you see the unprecedented attack on the public sector and teachers we're not talking about waste just in this area for the teachers or the policeman we're talking about essential government services are
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under attack really for the first time in many many years first time since the depression and it's not help the recovery at all. i will say well because the private sector is not taking up the slack let yeah it's not picking up a side so let's talk about what you argue here in your book. and rand nation and so why is that you think though that this is taking such hold right now i think you can say that we have maybe a growing group of libertarians in the country you also see the tea party embrace this in certain respects you have a lot of his core conservatives in the republican party now that are trying to take it far but why specifically now is this you know so strong but i think to a large extent as a result of a massive rewriting of history you know the a lot of people have become convinced by the radical right influence largely by your own area and that the reason that we had a financial crisis the reason that there is such hardship is because of government people aren't believing which is the true what are the true facts which have been
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established which is that it's the private sector it's the banking industry that caused the financial crisis of two thousand and eight and the resulting recession it's private sector that brought this don't applaud it's not government and i think people are believing the nonsense that they're taught by the radical right by the ron paul types by the libertarians and by the republican party is really well that it comes down to i think it's that's where i am randoms and his eye color of the she is the issues that marks the karl marx of the radical right and so you know keeping that in mind you'll think it has government accountability office report that i just mentioned that shows us that. i forgot the exact number now some highlights but. so many of these banks were actually repaying the bailout money they got from the taxpayers by just taking money from other federal programs and every day i feel like i say it's just can't get any more outrageous yesterday we were talking about making america the fact that a whistleblower came out and said that they were actually not giving people their loan modifications and misleading them at the same time partaking in the
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government's program in hand and passing on just enough modifications that they can still let it slide and then have this report how much more outrageous can it get it's an absolute outrage and you know that's that's the irony here you know so that's the real irony here is that the bailout was necessary by the actions of the private sector by the banking industry made this bailout necessary in the bill it was a terrible thing and the rangers in the radical right there saying all this bailout was the government it was the government coming in and all the bad stuff that you see coming out of the tarp program such as what came out today you know about how to reap the computer to pay paul is you know that's the fault of the government with what it really comes down to is the real reason we're having to spell out is the private sector that's what it can do with the banking industry running out of control and i think the public is losing sight of that yeah but as you mentioned to you know one of the arguments that we hear from these ranters about that you want to call them is that some of this is rooted in basic fundamental american values of
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individuality of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. oh absolutely there's no question and i think that the reason one of the reasons why you're part of the rewriting of history and one of the reasons why rand appeals to people is she sort of popularized notions which i think are really pretty deeply rooted in the american culture you know individuality good things you know you have to admit that there are good aspects to her philosophy if you read her novels and read or philosophy is certainly there's a lot you can get out of it that's good i mean people aren't stupid i mean there's good stuff in her philosophy but the overall point of her philosophy is to promote very radical capitalism capitalism that is basically out of control and we've seen in this country what happens when capitalism go runs out of control and we were living with the with the side effects right now with the it with the aftereffects you know what else is interesting to talk about is the fact that this is one of those iran's books are books that everyone reads while they're in high school or
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maybe when they're in college and then if you look at the way that some of these things are being applied if you look at the g.o.p. candidates right now that are running for president they're not going to touch social security or medicaid or medicare because they know that they need the elderly population because those are the voters i have the same time he flipped over and if you look at the way that they're trying to address the younger population issues of education of student loan debt they're basically saying fight for yourself. oh yeah yeah there's just no question about that you know they're basically they're all over the lot of these things you know the the the emphasis that they're basically trying to do they're attacking these social programs they can really do that for the first time since goldwater because the radical right has pushed them far to the right the tea party in the radical right influenced by rand has pushed them to the rather to the far right but that's a recipe for not being elected you know they're not going to be a look that by the public because the population the people really want that they
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want their medicare you know i was on medicare when she passed away in one hundred eighty two you know she was she in her house or america brand people need these programs so i see her now lasted through i want to go back to that a little tidbit that i threw out at the top of the interview which is that and after lobel so many executives there despite the fact that they misplaced about two billion dollars worth of customer money a lot of these executives are actually still there on top they got to keep their jobs not to mention they're now still hoping to get these massive bonuses which are maybe not as massive as some of the ones that we see jamie dimon get but still hundreds of thousands of dollars worth and you know what planet is that ok do you think that there's some kind of a victim complex that we see coming from wall street we saw that piece from bloomberg where they were complaining that they had to choose between selling their ferrari or their street bike and how hard it is to be rich. yeah you do see that you know you see the whining coming out of wall street there feel that they are you
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know they're being put upon they're being criticized here at m.f. global's kind of an interesting sort of an outlier because you know in order to wind up the bankruptcy in order to sort out the big mess that john corps even left it was necessary to keep on some of these employees of these top executives to sort out the mess that they they the private sector created so as a result of which they now have to they did a good job they're going to have a bonus to sort out the mess it's really it's almost kind of funny when you think of. funny yet sad i guess or for the rest of us that are looking at the jobs numbers and for so many of those americans that are unemployed and continue to be gary thank you so much for joining us tonight so it's my pleasure thanks. guys time for first break we come back mikey gets caught lying a once again about their surveillance of muslims. and then the u.s. finally reaches an agreement with afghans to hand over control of thirty two hundred detainees at the facility are long but that means for the tense
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relationship with back. people calling like you said for free and fair elections. and we're still reporting from the land as you can hear behind me loud explosions.
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then something else some other part of it and realized everything is. charred welcomes a big issue. so
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this week the a.p. has again released information that they obtained as part of their ongoing investigation of the n.y.p.d. surveillance program post nine eleven of the muslim american community last week during his weekly radio address new york mayor michael bloomberg trying to downplay the surveillance which has been a lightning rod of controversy for both the n.y.p.d. and we were for the past few months. everything the new york city police department has done is it's legal it is appropriate it is constitutional we don't target individuals based on race or religion. are because the last part we don't target individuals based on race or religion. yes if i were bloomberg i might stop talking about that publicly because it seems like the a.p. is just slowly continuing to release information there proves what he said is
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a lie this week the a.p. released documents of prove the secretive and demographics unit has been targeting muslim owned stores and places of worship and i might be asking yourself how it is different from the other reports of a.p.'s put out unfortunately for the n.y.p.d. and for mayor bloomberg the new documents show the unit was working undercover in these places because they were places that muslims owned muslims owned or frequented but here's the kicker that also shows that they were doing or what they were doing was in fact based on religion and nothing else the documents show they deliberately chose not to monitor the jewish and coptic christian populations in the exact same areas where they were monitoring the muslim community this report does not represent the coptic egyptian community and is merely an insight into the muslim egyptian community of new york city against me that's pretty damning and it kind of throws the whole we were just doing surveillance geographically argument out the window so basically over the last few years the n.y.p.d. demographics unit has been canvassing all of new york for muslims they've been
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hanging out in places muslims go places that muslims own and just observing taking notes pictures of people that have been absolutely nothing wrong in cases where there are no leads to be followed other than the fact that the people are there are of a certain religion but don't worry never bloomberg promise that they aren't doing anything wrong or targeting any people of any religion now as more evidence of bloomberg might just want to let this one go stock coming up commenting on it publicly over the weekend the times ran a piece that contained a quote by bloomberg on the surveillance controversy and what inside that he have then on it's not that he said quote i have many friends that are muslims that's right bloomberg decided to follow the footsteps of so many others make the argument that he associates with people of a certain group and therefore everything is totally cool as we all know he's not the first one to try to pull this move. i am going to be gracious great relationships and but i don't think it want to be as you know on the apprentice i
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have friends who are gay. i were just kidding with the romney clip he really is friends with nascar owners but back to bloomberg i thought it was the most commonly known thing that anybody who says i have friends that are blank are almost always people who have been accused of attacking a certain group and this week attorney general eric holder had this to say about the n.y.p.d. surveillance but i've read publicly again just what it is is disturbing these are things that are under review if you just before. i can say is this better be under review at the justice department until the investigation is over got some advice or american we're going to take more than having friends that are muslim to make this go away and you might want to start telling the truth when it comes to the n.y.p.d. is obsessive monitoring of the muslim community because the information is out there are learning more and more about the n.y.p.d. is tactics every day. now the u.s.
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and afghanistan have finally reached an agreement on the transfer of prisoners from the main detention center a deal that within six months afghans will take control of the thirty two hundred detainee's i facility to parwan which is a joined the bottom air force base now the u.s. will still have access to par one and in fact they will still have veto power to block the release of detainees and he agree with being held as a compromise a major milestone in moving forward on negotiations ahead of the scheduled withdrawal of u.s. troops that's been especially touchy issue since the burning of korans by u.s. forces the parwan sparked protests in the country and it's one the republicans like lindsey graham suggested are worth removing all troops over and then a cut and run strategy what does this really mean and what about unresolved elements of nitrates and temporary holding tents here this passes have been trying to walk or the truman national security project national thanks so much for joining us tonight thanks for having me all right so it took them a while to get here and they're finally reached this agreement but what would you say i mean u.s.
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troops will have access to all of the prisoners the thirty one of them it's going to take six months and they still get to say yes or no or basically it's a good saying no to people that afghans are really i mean look it's a good cause lies a lot of different ways it was something that president karzai made very clear that there had to be a decision by today on march ninth the u.s. was very hesitant a lot of ways to just turn over all the prisoners given the security concerns and given the record of the afghan government but the same time something had to be reached and so this is a very symbolic very important decision where basically when you transfer these prisoners aren't going anywhere they're going to be staying in the same prison they just have a symbolic change over to be able to give the government more legitimacy and to give the afghan government a chance to actually have some type of compromise and trying to figure out how to have a larger solution so it's part of the law much larger issue in and of itself you're right it's not all that significant but in terms of the long term strategy here of the u.s. continuing to take itself out in to keep this situation under wraps it's something significant it pages you know we talked about why the u.s. might be hesitant. you know let's talk more about that security concerns because
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they're kids and there's a moment in the past where where was it five hundred prisoners escaped but you know what else is there necessarily because according to the new york times they say that most of these detainees that are held there are taliban do we know that for sure i mean i think you can call anybody what you want afghanistan is a place where one day one group can be one way another day they come to one so it's really about finding a much larger solution here and i think the fact of the u.s. is continuing to retain rights where if any individual prisoner is seen as being a major threat by the u.s. commander on the ground they can veto it and on the same side of the afghans to do the same thing as a result i think that this type of compromise solution that we're seeing is kind of a good step it's not written in stone agreements not something that if the u.s. can't go back on at the same time as well the handshake it allows the u.s. and the afghan government to work towards building that trust as you pointed out trusted an all time low ever since the crumbling incident so you've got to start somewhere to get incremental step to move forward on do we actually expect
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conditions or treatment of detainees to get any better and these prisons i mean of course this is one of the problems that we saw in iraq as well that there was torture in iraqi prisons after they were handed over to iraqi control but at the same time we're not really sure what's going on there under american control it's not like any of these prisoners get to go out and see a lawyer they have as i mentioned these other areas which are actual prisons other questioning hold where you might just bring someone in for questioning but they've been known to be detained there for nine weeks at a time i mean it's not just prisons in afghanistan that are not held up to western standards i'd say everything in afghanistan is not quite up to standard so you know in each individual case will the prisoners get the same level of treatment there might be some prisoners get better suddenly get worse and i think it was just kind of wait and see i think that's why we're all kind of holding our breath we're glad that the deal was done today it's a good face saving measure in a lot of different ways but the same time we're just going to see how it goes moving forward and i'm sure that people be paying very close attention as they document any transgressions and forward all right let me throw something at you.
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that ambassador ryan crocker said which is during the time inside ceremony said the compromise for both sides he said that if anybody was the loser in this situation it was the taliban but it wasn't what you think it means that i mean i assume it means that as long as the u.s. and afghan government are kind of at odds over the crown incident other issues night raids everything else is a victory here if karzai government and u.s. government able to work effectively together that weakens the taliban in any stretch of the imagination so this is a compromise that kind of takes away one of the major flashpoints if we'd missed a deadline today we'd gone on and you see one more reason to protest in a friday is always a difficult day in afghanistan or any part of the muslim world and so being able to get that agreement to take away one more thing and taliban can use against us to try to drive a wedge between the two governments that's what i think he means by that statement but what happened with the night raids aspect because that is as of unresolved and this is really been a big sticking point because after what happened on these night raids are one of the complaints of the catherine civilians as well as from hamid karzai is that you
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often have civilians that are then hurt there are killed and so they want afghan troops to be able to do these on their own to have control of them and if we have any you know semblance of this notion of winning hearts and minds trying to have a good relationship still why wouldn't they let afghans take control i think the night raids are actually a really sticklers on that i guess i mean i wish it was that simple in terms of a complex security environment you're operating in so yes there are unfortunately incidents anything that happens at night becomes particularly difficult but the idea if you were just to unilaterally so you know what we're going to give all the prisoners back we're going to no more night raids we're leaving the country because you're messing up that wouldn't go very well in a lot of ways afghanistan is not just about individual raids individual areas around the security concerns it's a much larger strategic you know kind of perspective here in terms of the u.s. credibility in the region continue to work with their afghan government to be able to give and take and so this agreement may be a way forward to find a compromise there wasn't you know there was a deadline set of nitrates will set a deadline where the. prisoner so there's a lot of credibility to be found after
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a war that's lasted ten years and still doesn't really seem to have any point to it but finally let me mention something else to you that we've seen from newt gingrich after president obama had apologized for the burning of korans newt gingrich of course came out attack and said that in fact how many cars i need to respond or otherwise we should cut and run and call the troops out now lindsey graham over these negotiations over the prison also said they have cars i doesn't relent on this desire for us to hand over control to prisoners we should cut and run do you think this is a new strategy that we're going to start seeing from republicans because these are people that have been pushing for the war to continue all along i mean there's a big there's a big difference here between a newt gingrich who's running for president and really is not responsible for anything he's able to take you know extreme views he's not in there and lindsey graham has too much control i guess you could say i don't know about that lindsey graham was just i guess and he's a credible person to talk about it what's funny is he actually just came out today after these statements are based said ok this is what we're talking about this is you know so for him that's
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a compromise i don't think you get which will change position because all he wants to do is it president obama i think you have to be your sponsor in these cases and clearly a lot of the right wing republicans have no interest whatsoever and really thinking and forward on the strategy they're there you know their rhetoric on iran has been heated their rhetoric on afghanistan so heated it just takes it on a level where as people who are in the u.s. government today even if the opposition have to be a lot more specter like lindsey graham has been i don't know wealthy i think that it might be a trend as we have two election season now that the war in afghanistan isn't popular with the public i think we might see more people starting to try to take that route as if we didn't always know that karzai isn't exactly a reliable partner thanks so much for joining us today so much for having me. artist we spoke about at length on the show states across the country taken it upon themselves over the past two years to pass through coney and immigration laws some of which they can so far the parts of those laws are unconstitutional and what legal experts are screaming from the rooftops states like arizona south carolina georgia and now alabama are finding out firsthand as law after law is being
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scrapped down or slapped down in federal court it all started with arizona's immigration law as you can and seventy requiring immigrants to prove that there are three has to be in the country or risk state charges others are blocked by a federal judge in july two thousand and ten georgia was next but through the harshest provisions of its new law being blocked one which would have required police officers to check the status of anybody without proper identification and december two thousand and eleven a federal judge blocked parts of south carolina's law one that would have made it illegal to shelter or transport an undocumented immigrant and i would bama who praise their immigration law as the toughest in the nation seem to escape from the courts unscathed until now and september a federal judge gave the go ahead for alabama to enforce most of its immigration law ruling of the state couldn't force the laws requirements for schools to verify students immigration status and for police to determine citizenship and status of people they stop detain or rest now police are allowed to arrest anybody they suspected of being undocumented during a routine traffic stop as horrifying as that ruling was there is
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a because of good news to report today the u.s. court of appeals stepped in to block parts of alabama law they guardian foresman of a provision forbidding state and local governments are engaging in business transactions with illegal immigrants and they also blocked another that instructs state courts not to enforce contracts involving those undocumented or illegally here in the u.s. and good this ruling takes alabama one step closer to humanity whether they like it or not some to hold till the real day of reckoning for the latest batch of state immigration laws when the supreme court rules on arizona's law later this year. our taking another break but when we come back well for a person follow the whistle. press about the psychology of bravery of those issues to do the right thing against the odds. you can be the same. speed.

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