tv [untitled] March 13, 2012 7:00pm-7:30pm EDT
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today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. so why do you know eating a country and occupying and going to treat and disturbing their country creating hundreds of thousands of refugees and suffering. all military officials call it war a necessary evil ron paul begs to differ and the aftermath of a tragedy at the hands of a rogue u.s. soldier two questions loom over operations in afghanistan why are we still there and have we created more problems and we've helped to solve. there's been some research that and created about two point two million votes were lost in two thousand and eight due to voter registration problems. you know the saying every
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vote counts but that might not be totally accurate here in the u.s. well so you how ineffective the voting process really is and surveyed some solutions. and so a little bird told me just about everything there is to know about you that bird's name twitter so be careful what you tweet you never know this following your every move. it's tuesday march thirteenth seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching arts. well the u.s. has apologized for the shooting rampage in afghanistan that killed sixteen people many of them women and children and unnamed thirty year old staff sergeant is now in custody and in undisclosed location the massacre has severely strained relations between afghan and foreign forces now u.s.
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officials are debating pulling out of the country sooner and planned and here at home a new poll shows more americans are growing frustrated that the way the war is going and want the troops to come back sixty percent say the war was not worth fighting thirty percent believe the afghan public supports the u.s. mission there and fifty four percent say the u.s. should withdraw forces meanwhile president obama today said anyone involved will be held accountable take a listen to his remarks the united states takes this as seriously as if it was our own citizens and our own children who are murdered. will hug broken over the loss of innocent life. of innocent civilians is outrageous it is of acceptable it's not who we are as a country and it does not represent our military
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but despite the apologies in the wake of line tragedy and embarrassment after another many afghans are pushing for the ouster of u.s. troops and with anti american rallies igniting in the country are things going on she can reports that the patients of the african people may well be running out. sixteen innocent afghan villagers slaughtered in cold blood on nine of them children u.s. officials are going out of their way to present the american surgeon to apparently committed the massacre as just one bad apple. this incident is tragic and shocking and does not represent the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the united states has for the people of afghanistan this is not who we are in no way does he represent. the ethics and morality of the american serviceman and service woman and i think afghans understand that but afghans don't
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seem to be find out all. the rage and humiliation felt by afghan people appear to be way beyond what apologies can make up for they've heard them all before in the last few months all too often and each one very similar to the next just weeks ago the white house apologized for the burning of the copies of the koran by u.s. troops an incident that triggered a surge of violence this was a deeply unfortunate incident that does not reflect the great respect our military has for the religious practices of the afghan people and weeks before that in january apologies again over footage showing u.s. marines urinating on dead afghans reason actions do not represent the values of the vast majority of coalition forces who serve the nation's honorably contrary to what u.s. officials say some analysts believe that those incidents are symptomatic of how the military operation in afghanistan works it is increasingly the case this is looking like. a brutal occupation which is killing
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a large number of afghans were afghans film selves humiliated insulted and instance like this will be regarded as a symbolic of exactly what is wrong with the american occupation it is an absolutely cynical operation to say that they don't think in afghanistan for another three years how many more people will die how many more instances like this the only solution to this is to bring the troops out a month for these for these governments to stop thousands of painting in countries where they have absolutely no rights and copious apologies handed out by the administration don't seem. even to appease war critics back home let alone the afghan people. the whole idea of eating a country occupying a country disturbing their country creating hundreds of thousands of refugees and suffering is that it or get to a point where apologizing about the korean is rather minor to some of the other
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problems that we have created the taliban has vowed it will take revenge and least expect a fresh surge of violence children shot in the head we know slaughtered it's incidents like the latest soldier's rampage in afghanistan that extremists of all kinds used to it new people to their ranks those new recruits go out to kill not even the most heartfelt apologies can change the minds of people that said on revenge it becomes a vicious circle that breeds even more danger spreading far beyond the borders of afghanistan i'm going to shift our reporting from washington our king. well maybe outrage over the massacre more political leaders are questioning u.s. presence in afghanistan u.s. officials now debating whether to speed up pulling out of the country and among those questioning the afghan mission now g.o.p. candidates newt gingrich and rick santorum or romney says withdrawing forces from the country will be based on what's happening on the ground there now these are
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people who have strongly advocated the war and the past but there is one candidate ron paul who has consistently questioned us involvement in the country from day one and you just saw that there in diane's report so as the other candidates come closer to singing his two as a new outlook on war enough to turn the g.o.p. tide mary wilson volunteer organizer and ron paul supporter joined us earlier today from our los angeles studio we asked her if ron paul's antiwar message will resonate with more people now here's her take. yes maz unfortunately it takes an incident like this for people to come to realize ation that our actions do you have consequences and ron paul has been warning us of this for a very long time that there are there is a such thing that our cia has informed it's called blowback and incidences like this atrocities like this have consequences and unfortunately sadly this is not an
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isolated incident things like this happen in all of our wars in all of our occupations and this is what breeds hatred and retaliation and we shouldn't be there and ron paul has been saying that all along and is it reprehensible that you know the other candidates will say whatever it is that they feel you want to hear in order to get elected you know build those things the tune that they think will please you in order to get elected and ron paul has been saying all along that this is not the type of policy that the that he is american we are not a preemptive you know war country we shouldn't be we weren't that's not what our founding fathers intended and that's not how the republican party was to begin with it's only now and these things have consequences and we have responsibilities here at home and by sending trillions of dollars and all of our weapons and all of our
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bravest young men and women into this these battlefields and creating these war zones we're not actually making america any safer we're actually you know tearing apart our own economy our own. defenses you know ron paul's foreign policy i think you know the reason one of the main reasons why i supported it actually makes us a lot safer you know for our troops to be securing our borders you know for our ports and you know entry places to be secure i've said. but around the world and i see modern technology and we just don't have it here we're supposed to be one of the most advanced nations and you know we're wide open i think and the things that we're doing in other nations have consequences and you know these things were left out of you know a lot of different reports but you know it is a fact and that's what the cia has been telling us that these things have consequences and i'm not only concerned liz about you know this war there we have
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many occupations going on many wars going on and. you know i'm really sad all of the noise i hear about going to war with iran and i had to chuckle a little bit the other day when i saw a clip of joe biden a few years back on stage campaigning with obama screaming that if if bush went to a preemptive war without a declaration from congress and would attack iran that he would move to have bush impeached for it's funny all of the hypocrisy that goes on in these campaigns and elections and that's what i mean reason why i support ron paul because he has so much integrity integrity all along he has been delivering the same message and it's surprising to me that they other candidates can try to jump on the bandwagon when they think it serves them and you know those are going to be my dad are outraged so they can pick up on this but go ahead sorry no problem but those can be my next
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question what do you make of g.o.p. candidates now changing their views when it comes to the war in afghanistan i know you just mentioned hypocrisy and some people might view that this sudden change of heart is a craft hit hypocritical on the part of these g.o.p. candidates. exactly i believe that they'll change it back bill i believe that in one room you know they'll talk to one crowd and say one thing and in the other room they'll say something else and i had a friend the other day who told me that he was considering romney and i had to debate with him about this and he said well he's singing the tune i want to hear right now as far as immigration is concerned that's what are you kidding me like is that really the most important issue right now and ron paul's policy addresses it you know better than anyone so you know securing our borders making only legal past immigration having visas be monitored rather than you know the way things are going right now like i said in the world of you know such advanced technology it's
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surprising to me how many trillions of dollars were set spending on things that we blow up that are not making us safer and ron paul has the foreign policy that makes us safer and he's the consistent candidate from day one he's been saying these things and the fact that he's the only veteran running in this election it says something and his support from the troops i mean he got more than twenty four times more support than gingrich something like fifty times more support than santorum and more than twenty times more than mitt romney and more than all of the other candidates combined actually and you know the troops march on the white house on on president's day in support of his candidacy and the mainstream media chooses not to cover it and things happen like you know people we have you know investigators come back from iran inspectors they say there is no nuclear weapon and we have sixteen different intelligence agencies telling us that and then the mainstream media has some you know lobbyist you know who's paying for you know
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a drum beating of war and people you know seventy percent of americans believe that iraq had weapons of mass destruction and the same seventy percent now believe that iran has a weapon when we know and all of our intelligence is telling us that they don't and we have so much there's so much logic in that the fact that they could be contained . they don't have a air force or a navy they don't refine their know gasoline that's why they have to explore to export their oil and that's why they have to seek nuclear energy there is no nuclear weapons program even the i.a.e.a. says so but you know the people who go on you know fox news the n.b.c. m.s.m. you see these corporations that are owned their parent companies like g.e. who has our nuclear energy contracts who. benefit a lot from people glued to their televisions in fear and i just want to ask you one more question there mary now that people are kind of changing their views and more
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seems to be more aligned with what ron paul has been saying this whole time i mean if you think it takes a tragedy something as awful as this massacre and afghanistan for people to come to this realization about the realities of war unfortunately live this type of stuff happens all the time maybe just doesn't normally get much press but you know it happened in iraq there was more than twenty four people a family that was shot up and the. consequences for those soldiers you know i don't think that i don't think that our leaders are being held accountable what happened you know the other day was sorry i'm switching topics here but for leon panetta to say that we don't need the congress to declare the war we need international authorities that is not in accordance with our constitution that's another reason why i support on paul ryan his foreign policy is not weak it actually is strong and it's just constitutional letting the americans decide if we want to spend all of our money and our children into
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a battlefield when you know very merry apologia for you interrupt me there we're just we're unfortunately we're out of time thank you so much for coming on the show that was mary wilson volunteer organizer and ron paul supporter. well better watch what you tweet these days because big brother can be following you from cell phones a tracker every move to government agencies now turning to social networks to monitor people it seems privacy is quickly becoming a thing of the past now we've seen how social media has been used to transform the way people communicate some say it played a major role in the arab spring and the uprising of the occupy movement but as the government uses it to keep tabs on people using social media may come with a price that price being your privacy so to talk more about this i'm joined now by political comedian dean obeidallah welcome to the show dee in so doing you're a comedian have your tweets ever gotten years trouble. not yet i'm actually hoping
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they do but not for the reasons of the governments looking for us i mean it's really you know it's funny you bring that up in a way about the comedy there once were seven words you can say on television and george carlin the great comedian told about that lampoon did now there are over five hundred words you cannot say on twitter or facebook or the government will fly him on your tweets in your facebook post and to me that's concerning because most americans have no clue about this program that the only reason we know about it is because a group called epic which monitors privacy on the internet far the lawsuit to enforce or free of information act requests to find out about this program the government looking at everything we tweet everything we post making files on it the question is words information going and is this program still ongoing and do most people know that i think most people tweet thinking or just talk to their friends or post on facebook the only their friends are reading it guess what it's not the u.s. government homeland security is reading your tweets and modern your facebook posts now you might have those five hundred words and that will set off alarm bells from
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the department of homeland security if you use them on twitter or facebook and some of them seem pretty hard lesson words that you would use in everyday language i use a lot of every day here are some of them subway the lay is clouded pork these are some of the words that can cause them to take keep tabs on you what do you make of some of these work that can lead you to be watched. well it really makes raises the question of effect in this of this program how effective and how well are they spending our taxpayer dollars and also concerns with a higher general dynamics a multibillion dollar defense contractor who makes tanks and weapons systems the spies other american citizens and i think as americans we should know what our government's doing how they're monitoring us you know is it wrong i mean there is you know you get to the effect and this is one argument is all you know you tweet something innocently about a wave or a cloud and you're old son you're in a file somewhere but second the bigger issue is the hard to see issue and that's something that i think that you know it's the beatable if you have
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a constitutional right to privacy when you put something on facebook or twitter but the question is is this something that emerged government should be doing it sounds more like something you'd see in china or another government trying to oppress their people not america we have this freedom of exchange of ideas with the word of big brother watching us but in fact you do. it why do you think that the average person should be outraged or should be really concerned about that. because the more freedoms we used to lose the more liberties we lose the more privacy we lose they're gone forever i've never seen a government anywhere in my study of history where the government goes you know what we're going to give our people more privacy again and we're sorry we took it away from you know i mean some certain things were repealed the patriot act but very little in the question is then if we don't stop now if we don't stand up now or at least ask questions now let's be honest next thing they're reading facebook e-mails and twitter direct messages and before you know it was your regular e-mail you know when you give up some liberty in the in the sake of security is venturing franklin said you lose both and you're not entitled to either one and some of the
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comments are some of the words are actually the opposite there's so incriminatory but terrorist or drug dealer going to post like there's one ammonium nitrate there's some terrorist or tweeting i'm looking for i'm only in nitrate can you help me out of course no one is doing that i'm more concerned that they're looking for us not terrorists not drug dealers like they say but the average american to see what we're tweeting what we're thinking because in a rage for a lot of people our tweets are our thoughts it's a stream of conscious and tweeting it's out there and that is what it is like you know an argument can be made you say your tweets or your thoughts and for most people those thoughts are not harmful and don't pose any danger so i mean if somebody is going to tweet about their day to day life then you know it doesn't really cause any problems for that and the argument is that they're using this to track people that will cause a problem or do pose a threat. people really care. i think let's be honest i mean what terrorist or drug dealer out there tweeting their plans or posting on facebook hey you want to
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buy some cocaine and heroin which are words on the list that will trigger it no one's doing that it goes back to the slippery slope the idea that you say you willingly you can have more of our privacy you can have more of our liberty we're going to use it more and more and more we just assume points in up we have the patriot act very few people object that there's spying in new york of muslim simply because they're free of students and people where they work and they pray and that's ok now it's more broad i mean if it wasn't for epic following this lawsuit we would not have known the details of this program and i'm not a conspiracy person but the question is what more is the government doing what more how much more the stylus that we don't know about and that's really the concern to me how much more is out there and they could like epic for a lawsuit and i wish the government just come forward and come clean as much as they can but still it's always a question about your mother being forthcoming or not i guess the last thing is that we should be careful what we put on the answer nappies days pleasure have you on a show that was political comedian version of you know. the u.s.
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is oftentimes quick to cast doubt over the way elections play out in other countries last weeks of russia and the elections are just one example but and a few months americans will head to the polls to decide if american president obama will serve a second term as r.t. it's very important i reports there are several flaws within the u.s. voting system. one of these men could be president just eleven months from now this present even if i'm president this president i say you got is somebody who can actually get it done in washington as americans head to the polls in two thousand and twelve determine to take part in democracy millions of votes may end up rejected or thrown away com election night two point two million votes were lost in two thousand and eight due to voter registration problems david bakker is the director of elections initiatives at the pew center on the states he says america's nineteenth century paper based voter registration system has left the nation's
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registration rolls plagued by errors we found roughly twenty four million records that are no longer up to date mostly because people have moved in some cases because people have died we found fifty one million eligible voters who aren't on the rolls but one in four of the old world citizens united states a new report on america's inaccurate costly and inefficient voting system also found nearly two million dead individuals listed as eligible u.s. voters and nearly three million citizens registered in more than one state we're seeing voting problems here in the two thousand and nine term lections resulted in a record sixty thousand votes being tossed out not counted i think will say the misuse of new electronic optical scan machines was to blame yet again that because price could likely be the integrity of america's free and fair elections we should assume that every citizen that is eligible to vote can vote and if there is some
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problem on election day there should be some way that they can correct so if they're not told i don't see you in a book even though you are a citizen even though you are eighteen your vote isn't going to count concerning russia back in december u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton said the same thing following russia's parliament reelection the russian people like people are. everywhere deserve the right. to have their voices heard and their votes counted and come this november of all starts with you american citizens will be counted on us leaders to stand there were you know for r.t. new york. meanwhile several new voting laws recently enacted in several states are sparking sparking controversy here at the fourteen states where new voting laws have been passed they are in from early from barring early voting to restricting where people can vote to requiring people to provide government issued photo id is
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some posters and civil rights activists are concerned that one of america's most fundamental rights that is the rights of vote is under attack now proponents of the new world say it will prevent voter fraud critics say it actually in a it's a exclude a very significant portion of american citizens these people being mostly minorities that tend to follow democrats what is really behind these new laws and could they potentially affect the outcome of the election a lot of a the pros and cons are there i was joined by c.n.n. molly president of less government and investigative journalist brad friedman i started off by asking what's the problem with requiring people to show i.d. at the polls here is brad states. a well the problem is that there are millions of americans who simply do not have them and it's not equally spread among all voters in fact minorities elderly students students and so forth or far more likely to not
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have the type of photo id state issued photo id that required by these new laws these new laws have been put in place by the way in order to keep people from voting keep illegal gotos from casting their legal vote despite a dearth of problems with voter fraud at the polling place that's the only type of voter fraud that can be stopped. by these polling place photo i.d. restrictions so you're talking about keeping potentially tens if not hundreds of thousands of legal voters who have been able to vote without a problem for decades from being able to cast their legal votes under these restrictive new laws passed by republicans think what do you make of that argument that this new law excluded thousands of voters here in new york all of the tens of thousands almost completely made up well what we've seen time and time and time again and the acorn scandal was just the tip of the iceberg that broke this down the proposition is a combination of casting
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a provisional ballot the polling place where you don't have a photo id or you can't prove you live somewhere and then matching that up a before a joint registrations but acorn registered in other groups of registered in the tens and hundreds of thousands so that's the kind of fraud that actually transpires in large numbers and that's the kind of voter fraud that a photo id requirement. largely eliminates and that's what they've been fighting because as we know acorn was a democrat operation registering people then helped it let me legally elect democrats that's the partisan battle we're fighting your post point. response to back yeah there's nothing partisan about this other than where you've got republicans trying to keep voters from being able to cast their legal vote in the case of acorn we're talking about registration fraud that was carried out by a handful of acorn workers it was discovered by a hand that all holds and turned into officials hand though there were eight of
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those through the roster asians have or cast a vote you got to keep that in mind there's a combination i just said every morning what i just seen you ignore and i say here is the illegal registrations do you any legal having the initial what i was saying you are you know what i'm saying do you mind letting me i'm just going to jump in here i am i let me finish what i was saying there is not ever to. ns of a single fraudulent vote ever cast wrongs of the an improper registry an acorn worker this is simply a canard where is it c. there were. an element they were being prosecuted for that when we went down i do want to add there is no prosecution against any case of voter fraud for any fraudulent register on by an acorn you're wrong grad of your money and they do want to ask how this law can be considered discriminatory if it doesn't apply to everybody across the board no matter who you are you're a voter you're required to show this idea that it doesn't discriminate great and
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that way yes. well great question just yesterday the department of justice objected to rejected a texas polling place photo i.d. restriction because it found that hispanic voters are anywhere from forty six percent to one hundred twenty six one hundred twenty percent more likely to be lacking the type of photo id that is required over non hispanic voters would be because i was here illegally carolina where black where black voters are twenty percent more likely to not have the type of photo id required then non african-american voters so we see the same pattern all over the country and of course republican ever know this really that's why they're passing these laws the end it's going to have back or perhaps in texas the spanish one hundred twenty to thirty percent are likely not to have photo id because a great many of them are here illegally and shouldn't be voting anyway this these numbers are legal voters can i finish these are legal voters seat no no what
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they're what they're looking at is they're fudging the numbers they cherry pick certain prison populations to look out for one number and they cherry pick another number to look at for different others they're looking at registered voters there are looking at the total population of the right and looking at likely voters which of the people would actually go as it is that race is even more actually as it was it races for boruc that are actually is it races for bars to require id for purchase. oh ok ok is it raises for prescription or promise these i'll why don't i hear that she didn't see didn't let me answer your question ok in texas we're not fudging any numbers because those are the numbers that were supplied by the state of texas to the department of justice they're going by their own numbers those are currently registered legally registered voters that we're talking about and that was investigative journalist brad friedman.
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