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life on the go. video on demand g.'s my old girls and streets now in the palm of your. machine. the headlines for you now aired on tape afghanistan security will be in the local hands next year as a traditional american leaders confirm account of their meeting in washington investigation is also pending into a possible assassination attempt against the u.s. defense secretary during his visit to the country. syrian troops advance to several flashpoint cities here also called for to go up to it as the opposition calls on foreign forces to the event meanwhile president responded positively to the u.n.
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and her picks his proposals which include an immediate cease fire by both sides. and illegal immigrants coming to the u.k. and said she would abandon their dreams ending in homeless poverty comes that many have no idea the planets that are away from chanting home. but nextel don't know meets the russian the president's special envoy to afghanistan and interview show spotlight.
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oh yeah they're welcome food spotlight into shell arts and i'll bring up and stay right here for the program is said near kabul. the nato forces in afghanistan seem to have a loose street truly koran burning incident at a u.s. service calls a proudest massacre killing at least thirty this week the troops have been such a learned all through a u.s. soldier sixteen afghan civilians the diplomats are on alert to try to calm down the flash discount it is evident that the coalition is getting less and less popular among the house goes but doesn't necessarily mean it's doing more harm than good can the mission finally be completed or is the time to change the strategy and just terminate we'll discuss the latest news from kabul with the russian president's special envoy to afghanistan certainly of kabul. and to u.s.
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sentiment is extremely high enough to understand after the cold blooded murder of sixteen civilians on sunday american soldier left his base in the country got region and went on a shooting rampage killing three houses a trend you know everybody inside and children a soldier has not been the ones reportedly custody all right obama has promised a full investigation of the soldier in question but he's the full force of the war . this is not enough either afghan officials or the taliban both are demanding an open trial afghan soil the taliban is also to take revenge killings and will apparently use the case in its propaganda war against the government of president karzai. a welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all it just
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occurred to me that your name sounds exactly like the name of the afghan capital. well well well does it mean anything to you with this kind of coincidence and and what kind of a name is it. this is. a logical route many other oriental names and nothing to do with kabul of course but it has become my destiny. did you go from the very beginning when you were a kid so of course you knew what what was the couple of guys that were you already into there because of your name to do this play any and you wrote with your i suspect your. financial district are all financial relations would be more i was good i would suspect a person like richard the first one because of my name it was a lot more troops for. afghanistan shows you say ok well now
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let's turn to the latest news well can you clarify the status of the air base in which you're supposed to serve the u.s. military traffic to against mine nor should there is no. there's also talk about. i will write to simplify. americans. force and so want to have. draw will exit transit exit from what we understand and that in order to experience transportation of their goods and other things. request that russian federation true provide them. airspace and air or airports. they want to bring. our loads from afghanistan into orleans stockpiled in order to
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send the free so they're probably summation that's all there is no any talks about base. anyway if russia is ready to provide the us military with logistics on our own soil this it means that moscow is no longer nervous about the american air base in kyrgyzstan. first of all russia or or has already provided the districts throughout america for its territory you know about that old granted by the same frames coming from europe into afghanistan for all the central asia besides americans has permission to fly or there are always nothing new i very much surprised why are every everybody suspicious or not of much interest in this new were here before for almost thirty years so we
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corporators americans to give them logistic transit into afghanistan and now would give them partially the same back but ones nothing special so what good but still has there been a change of attitude towards the q his base. well look first of all kid gives bays if you're stopping a problem on all smarmy it's so you sure between the government of kyrgyzstan and the united states of america they should start all the remember statement all the new president of korea stand that he is not going to prolong the conflict on that so. it's rather be. curious government wants to change sure the more the work aeration of these beasts want to have a calmer szell transit center or something like that well let's turn to another news i mean the the killing of the sixteen afghan afghan civilians including
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children in their beds by a united states army sergeant well everybody in the world well well we were very close to reaction to that including the us and of course rush well what's your opinion as not as a politician but as a person deeply involved in the matter in this again situation what do you consider for yourself that this was isolated case committed committed by a by insane or troubled person or are those that reflect a deeper process does that reflect the the general psychological seek of the us personnel in the region i think your last proposition is much more lot of proof of course i don't know completely different but who am i talking about feelings i mean certainly you know why you believe it's not the intent of actions by the us military in afghanistan when it comes to the surge and of course it's an
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isolated event but we had that chain of isolated accidents in our gunners from falling for the last year do you remember our building of course some years ago bombardment all we're really sure is in the suburbs so all of our herat province where more than seventy serial. and sware killed and it's. almost every month we have some accidents of killing a shooting i agree that there is sort of thought he was an american and other foreign military force was one of the same time i just want to draw your attention to the reaction of god so of course everybody was shocked by these fragile be about the same time you cannot see and of widespread demonstrations and protests taken all organic stunned by this also sort of psychological thought thinks exists not only was foreign forces but also says well you know for the last ten m.
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even more years are guns so if i may use of this what got you into casualties and deaths and their sensitivity to such a threat your lease is not so high as perhaps that kerry can't be everywhere there because the generation is growing at least two or four for whom it's just girls just like a common practice i mean where people dying and so watching people die during this and but we we are are live in a world of images every time we hear something we see something we we get pictures and images that we have already seen this time i think it states the epic alex is now the couple's film do you think that we can compare this syndrome of what's going on in afghanistan we will what we've seen in like couple of failing where in the d. hunter. of course there is on the relative signal verity your defense of is down syndrome is there i'm afraid. i have feeling if my personal opinion of that the
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americans are losing the war in afghanistan and they cannot find a right strategy how to prove. the sliding door on into perils in this country. if they can not do read. forthcoming future i am afraid there will be maybe a prejudice we can we can also remember for example the burning of the qur'an a couple of weeks ago well the reaction to these incidents among the afghan public among the people among another the afghan military is very violent is very very is very outspoken to this day it reflects can we say it's a reflection of the fact that the now the foreign military presence is becoming more and more unpopular among the vast majority of them dance as we work around i believe the birth of this reaction on burning the implication or what the
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critical mass of tolerance or in poland's the larger society is very much right. and only small of big incident or accident can blow up the story here i agree with you are there any major groups any major groups of the population in afghanistan who supports the further presence of western troops for example women or maybe educated educated citizens in the who have an eye for you sure that many serial surance. may be our army man of course or women they will certainly support so because they cannot see you there for freedom for a future with store over top of the colored one and of course our first of all it's well for the right for the room and the women because they were deprived of the all moderates on the far side of the gullible regime and about the same issue comes
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from one comes a businessman. very intelligent what we call the intelligentsia obey me feel very uncomfortable and. rigidly as they believe the taliban are coming so so so so so so it's not. it's not as such an easy situation in which about a fight himself today when deciding whether to withdraw and yourself well i just realized that we talking to zanny a couple of the russian president's special envoy to afghanistan spotlight and all that actually going after a small grade cell state but still. wealthy
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welcome back to mike and i'll do another and just a reminder that my guest on the show today is zamir kabul of russian president's special envoy to afghanistan you actually see we just talked about the different groups of people reacting differently to a possible the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan or to to to to the prolonged presence of western troops and i guess the so do you think that this afghan reaction that that what is what is being said what is being. inside the
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afghan society may really influence the u.s. withdrawal strategy or are there to a deal central and everything's decided in washington. i believe the american force of course is eagle centric but the sort of the response of realtors global responsibility or americans of i like to see them so was. i believe that they will take me into account such sentiments and so they're going to stand but once a withdrawal. you perhaps mean that americans won't completely leave i would have a grandstand i don't see in seoul i feel that americans want to leave behind some five six huge military bases with a certain number of personnel maybe three. fourths of the soul. perseveration not going to leave for up for group i'm gonna start
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a rule i would like to stay very little of base isn't what we see here isn't patrolling the country i mean well they did say that it's a different thing in the worse of course live they do have a military base in cuba they are water based in japan. i mean there are patrolling the streets and japanese cities exactly the bars in spent the better much interesting those baselessly are motion in some other states not to control law and order in the country and so something else i also thought was kind of that's exactly. ok now about my hears years spoken in a television interview on monday and he said that the killings in afghanistan underscore the need to hand over responsibility for security to the africa it's. do you think the afghan army today in the state that we see it is ready for that
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she was not civil i don't. know i support what president obama said about that but before handing or were security response or go to the afghan army and police they should have spanned efforts to create. a stronger army and probably is stronger not only in the sense of the size and number of strong equipment training and margins which is not where we will and i don't think that our gun our government. will be able to provide budget for its army in the long run that's why. this sudden scant difference. would support president obama's statement that so far we can not see you there as they spent the last ten years ten years of afghanistan building are going army and police but there was interest then you're still be could not both fail to create a strong army to take responsibility for the american soldiers are trying to
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american personnel it's their policy to try to teach the afghans to teach their security forces but we are hearing more and more reports. and that the americans themselves are worried by the fact that the afghan police that their training may later shoot in their back and they and we have seen sanction since in more than ten thousand in the me in the recent months how friendly are the afghan troops towards the nato troops and towards the karzai government i think it's very difficult to hold all of gun army and gun police especially for meads staying also dog honest on the but there are certain problems it was in the afghan army and micheline first of all about the quality of the three meaning if they see their training. let's say ten years was in ten years normally any military
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college she in the world. at least to do the relations of officers for four or five years even is especially in a country pilots very complicated professions you know that are professionals but so would you ration time has passed in the grandstand but we cannot see such officers. as one second because. low quality of our gun army and police is not only because of loss of salary and may be poor one. of morale i know that many officers privates don't feel that they are fighting for the national cause in afghanistan. they are some of them believe fighting for somebody else interests uncle sam uncle sam's interest in this region and they can see all those
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descriptions and so like killing shooting in the violation of local provincial means and they're part of the society and they are like it's famous. coming out of foreign forces or maybe of that's why you look at the foreign forces as a hostile one i've gotten out of course here for years we've gotten bin laden and if we we can al qaida were in a stronger position now to hand over security control to the afghans and this is another quote from from about do you agree and that the u.s. army has achieved its girls in afghanistan and did they do believe that taliban is a less serious threat today than it has been ten years ago i finger the taliban today are much more stronger for it to a grammar storm than they were in two thousand and one. no
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they are i mean maybe they're not in court formal control of many promises of germiston the bar they are night time i thought up and you are going to start almost all or got a storm. there probably very strong position not only in the software midst of both almost. some. remote mountainous progresses wouldn't you say that taliban is a threat of gamester well i believe the taliban can pose a threat to neighboring countries but when you say tell about is going to spend it sounds like you remember that for for decades the west said communism is a threat to russia to serve but we were ok with that we didn't feel the threat so maybe to tell them this isn't isn't such a big threat against and maybe they should live with it for a time being maybe all right let me rephrase what i see to our current i've got a solution for the military forces by
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a friend of these are gonna stop when the phone store people. second force and i do yours let's we used to call these. insurgents taliban but all of them almost all of them are pashtun so local it is that we belong to the same society and. many of them may be fighting not for their religious course they're fighting against the foreigners whom they are and he was and if we take if we take a. wider view on what's happening in the region in the middle east and africa we see that there is some radicalization going on your and your right and then sometimes it's considered a sort of a national independence movement i mean the radicalization of islamic force and so so maybe these countries should only through the loop through this period and then later come to sort of their own style. democracia you're right so there is sort of
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reason to ration all the religious and national identity of obese people because they governments i know you have been in touch with the karzai government do you feel that there are strong and confident enough to do still stands even if the west leaves and thought a moment told your radio the reasons behind besides army and police so i've got. a strong economy which can produce. bodger and support for the straight straight and social structure. doesn't have these infrastructure economy little if the thoughts are at his disposal that's why it's very difficult to portray here is a strong gulf are the regional powers including russia and europe resent the russian foreign ministry of course i'll be ready to to move in to support the afghan government in case the the west leaves and withdraws i don't think so when
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it comes forward to russia i'm sure that russia is not ready to move in prague honest with you i don't know if we heard them. and i think i'll go so also watching they are both americans and nato are also france twice before doing at the what you suggest since americans and nato are already inside we used to life militarily but at the same time. us into a development of the country only if we can help you because in that and to all that the only the relevant are going to one can help stabilize it and taliban can reinvigorate on the normal life because so there are a lot of pride to be a force informational. article for i feel that the current taliban though because. on the run up eating the well you know when you said we've had enough of course you
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know not only not only the milk truck ration back even years and years after the war the never ending drug traffic from the guns the information it still is going on is there is there. optimistic news about that when it's the case and we still can't find it for the time being it's really difficult to see of that we have any all good news i'm all but that doesn't mean that they're not going to do i'll bust through about oh i do you understand when i was speaking about the russia russia's potential is quite limited so we are trying to involve some sort of drug trafficking of flawed thought on the remote of governess on the borders thank you your excellency thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest today was that new car full of russia's president's special envoy to afghanistan and that's it for now from all of us here at spotlight
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