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welcome to the lower show and get the real headlines with none of the mercy or if you live in washington d.c. now it's not really all the details on bradley manning's case defense is calling out the government for not handing over documents the prosecutors have labeled al qaeda as the enemy that manning was allegedly aiding and kevin is going to give us the full breakdown and a situation in afghanistan continues to deteriorate scars i want all u.s. troops confined only to bases by next year and how should we look at the bank
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stress test that was done by the federal reserve fifteen out of nineteen banks passed but in two thousand and eight look kind of similar or a list or host of a capital account here on r.g.p. is going to help us sort it all out of all of that and more fee tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look with the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so we all know that there are the big news stories of the mainstream media covers every day right we've seen a lot of campaign coverage we've seen to their credit a lot of afghanistan coverage this week as well and of course we've seen a lot of this. thank you john hamm says he does not regret not for one single solitary moment calling concur dash and e it has ups all use ilya's the people out there who have an i phone a california man had one blow up it is handy in many households across america modern day more women than ever are becoming the primary breadwinners of their families are there she hit right back for her part she defended herself on twitter she called hamm's
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remarks careless and pointed out how someone of her success could hardly be an idiot especially me just for just for the next two or three weeks yeah exactly so we're talking about march madness obviously everybody's excited about it jarvis dixon says he was just playing a game on his i phone it overheated it exploded bruising his hand he says he's also lost some movement in his fingers in more and more families the woman is becoming the primary breadwinner for in ten women entering it in two thousand and nine you're with this you're going with. their release their on his adopted a child she's the proud mom of a healthy baby boy jackson. now of course some of the stories travel but i really don't think the most trusted name in news as they like to call themselves should be spending so much time talking about jon hamm and charlie's their own especially because this week something else has been going on we've been covering it for you every single day it's sunshine week a week devoted to advocating for greater government transparency now he's talking
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about media organizations asking the department of defense to unseal court documents for the court martial for bradley manning we spoke about cyber security legislation to open government groups are warning could have a chilling effect on areas for which we're able to file for our requests we look at the obama administration's record overall in the war in whistleblowers to keeping the wind at the state dinner a secret so there isn't an outcry over the price at which we can all say it was probably pretty high and unfortunately i haven't seen the mainstream media dedicate any time this week that talking about the fact that it's sunshine week no time devoted to calling out the government for its absurd. yes of secrecy and calling on them to do more and especially unfortunate because all these are news organizations right journalists that we're talking about who somehow seem to have forgotten what their real purpose is being the government watchdog so i guess should come as no surprise and they also don't report on the following story but i think it's worth bringing up because we hear a lot about the rules the regulations that are put into place but we don't hear
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nearly enough about all of the loopholes that are out there to let people of void those rules case in point the obama administration's rules on lobbying last week we told you about obama's own hypocrisy after all this is a candidate that campaigned on getting the influence of lobbyists out of washington he signed an executive order regarding lobbyists and the revolving door between working for the federal government after you represent a specific interest and then last week we found out the white house that hired steve or shady a former lobbyist to work with vice president joe biden because for a shady use a loophole to get in he had the registered as a lobbyist and after two years he was able to work for the government again. but this individual example overshadowed it's really a much larger problem there are a lot of loopholes out there and the american lobbyist league has now written a letter to president obama about one very specific rule. this administration created the rule that individuals who spend less than twenty percent of their time lobbying don't have to register with congress as
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a lobbyist problem about of course being that there are people that are actively lobbying and yet they don't have to call themselves lobbyist because it's up to them to police themselves on this entire twenty percent think now the president of all which is the american lobby is the coward marlo says of this particular rule has resulted in a free for all in capitol hill and it makes sense why create a rule and then have the people police themselves i don't think that i'm the only one that a hard time believing that a rule like that is just bounce it to get abuse in a place like washington d.c. i'm pretty sure the rest of america would be with me after all congressional approval is an all time lows. polls show that americans think that money has too much influence over our political system and as a rule the relies on the integrity and honesty of lobbyists to tell us how much they're lobbying i mean that is just plain stupid but the problem is of course it just creates more of a shadowy culture we end up knowing even less about who is influencing our laws and the american lobbyist league has other ideas out there suggestions for other rules
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that should be put in place things like having lobbying were lobbyist for poor it specific individuals that they meet with on capitol hill and so just saying whether it's somebody from within the house the senate or the executive branch i like that idea well let's leave start with the one that really stands out here just too bad that most americans are going to know about this example of corruption because the mainstream media doesn't feel that it's their duty to report on it there's just far too much leverage gossip going on this week so sunshine week lobbying loopholes that stuff they choose to miss. well today was day one of two another hearing in the case against bradley manning army private accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to wiki leaks members of the bradley manning support network waited outside of fort meade today with science but what do we learn on the inside while the military prosecutors finally have to define who the enemy manning is charged with aiding is
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and it's what we've gleaned before al qaeda or al qaeda in the arabian peninsula the defense also filed a motion to dismiss all charges against bradley manning and arguing that the government violated manning's rights by failing to overturn certain evidence so let's get more the details here this cast is it me is kevin costner let's civil liberties blogger for fired up lake kevin thanks so much for joining us tonight and ok let's start by breaking down some of these details in terms of what it is that the defense is arguing that the government has been withholding from that that by late manning's rights right so they're trying to get the government to disclose certain riddance that they feel could be really helpful to. defending manning and so some of these things clue for your requests related to the two thousand and seven apache helicopter attack which was in the collateral murder video. of damage assessments such as people looking at the information that was released by bradley manning allegedly and determining whether national security was harmed or put at
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risk and they include. forensic computer images to. showing the sort of software that were on the computers in the facility that bradley manning was doing his intelligence work in and also include the sort of you know the just the government doesn't want to disclose this over to us that. believes could be helpful to. manning and there's a disagreement over the legal rules all right it totally makes sense to me that that the defense would want to see some of these assessments that are made by intelligence agencies by whoever to prove or i guess you could say you know to assess whether or not they think there's been again extension national security because of the release of these leaks and so why is it what's the argument from the prosecutors you know what is their defense for not actually giving them this information you think of that would be
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a big deal in this case well it's similar to what we've heard from critics of wiki leaks who say it damage national security but we learned nothing new you've got the prosecutor saying that the defense hasn't been specific enough as to what information they need but yeah they could go back and cite how this information might not be able to be released because of certain legal rules and then you've also got them saying that they're not really sure if they exist they use the word a legit they say allegedly damage assessments but then fifteen minutes later they stood up in court and were able to detail which agencies or departments have these actual damage assessments so it's all sort of games those those things that are going on that make you wonder you know just how corrupt is this trial so far once again and that case you know how is the judge reacting and you mentioned there is this game going on and one minute they're saying that they're not even sure these
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damage assessments exist then they actually directly refer to them you know is the judge at least critical how you know how is the judge reacting to this entire motion to to get rid of the case of your audience through your words who's adrian lamo and she said that. in the courtroom today which we've here on here to leave she is not familiar with the case material and there are some basic details from the article thirty two hearing that she doesn't know about so. she's able to challenge the defense and she's also able to challenge the government when it comes to military law but she doesn't seem to have the grass of the wiki leaks story or the bradley manning story she doesn't seem to know what actually went on in the facility that bradley manning is accused of committing and she's still getting a grasp of all the material that has been brought to the forefront so far she actually said who is adrian right i mean this is i i'm baffled by this you know
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this is something that's supposed to be ruling on this kind of a case that's just absolutely crazy to me all right let me ask you a few other things that line we want this boy request in terms of you know the video that ended up being a platter of murder video that wiki leaks released i mean how do they think that that is going to hurt or excuse me help me i can only presume because they the defense didn't really exactly state but i can guess that if other institutions organizations or media were trying to get those details and they were able to tell why they were denied then perhaps you could give some sort of background us to you know whether bradley manning should be charged for releasing the collateral murder video as he's alleged to have done ok because there also may have been some cover up trying on their right people are trying to figure out what exactly happened with that strike i know that the families of the reuters journalists were trying to get all the details from the military and you know it was tough for them to do so also isn't the defense claiming that there is a video from antico that shows that when what is this person shows that the
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conditions that manning was held in his cell do we have any idea we don't know we can presume that maybe it was interrogations was it the strip searches is it is it when he was you know ordered to you know stand stark naked for twenty four hour period for those few days you know we don't know what we do know is that in order to get the judge to budge and force the video there's actually a good chance that bradley manning might have to testify and say yes your honor i remember being recorded i was in the cell i was in prison they were videotaping me . is there any reason why manning might not want or for this case to be dismissed you know i mean my obviously he would want the case to be dismissed but it doesn't mean the government is going to come back and try to do it again and so it's not just me more of a waiting game for him you know i don't know the the charges the defense are asking to be dismissed i don't know if they're asking for the entire case to be dismissed
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they're just asking for charges that have prejudiced because the government has wholly failed to produce evidence that they feel is necessary for their case ok can we talk about you and i are laughing about this before the show to a little bit of an ironic story i guess which is that the prosecutors are claiming that they didn't get a few e-mails relating to the case can you tell us why so apparently there's well as one what as one would expect for a government agency they have a spam filter to protect and part of the spam filter it appears is that if you have the word wiki leaks in your e-mail it's not going to get through to the people who are supposed to receive your mail so there is a huge work well it will last time around the arraignment because they were saying we didn't get these e-mails we don't know what's going on and that seems to have been the case so now they've gone into this huge lengthy process of having someone every time at ten am of the day they're going to check the spam filter and make sure the instead of letting wiki leaks get through it appears they're going to do
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it actually just to police the e-mail. work i guess right and finally you know aiding the enemy as is the most serious charges being brought against bradley manning here in the prosecutions that they won't go for the death penalty they're going to try to go for life in prison but what do you think of this notion that they're saying that he aided al qaeda or al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or other related terrorist groups and organizations i mean i i find it to be kind of ludicrous right because then how about every single source out that the reported on the leaks you know are on the cables might not. i just i find it very dangerous i don't know you know this being a military case versus a civilian case i'm not sure what the difference here would be but i don't have a tough time seeing it morphing into this thing where eventual leave five or ten years down the road if they can successfully charge manning with aiding the enemy
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so blogger like myself maybe who has managed to obtain caused by information and publish it which should be allowed into the first amendment could be a target for prosecution i just think it's very easy if the government successful with what they're doing yeah and well all the more reason of this should be people really should be paying attention to it kevin thanks so much for joining us i know that you've been you've had a long day of going to the hearing and everything with thanks for keeping us updated with all the details there. it's time for a quick break but when we come back so play is dead for now but it doesn't mean a defeat it we're going to tell their plan with peace to make sure the copyright gets in force the way they see fit and then things seem to be unraveling even further in afghanistan in the wake of the massacre earlier this week so we can talk about the continuing fall out so if we can back. the. people calling like you
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said for free and fair elections. and we're still reporting from the same time as you can hear behind me loud explosions. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you've lived something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything
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scene at major internet service providers like comcast cablevision horizon time warner cable and more they've all been secretly plotting behind closed doors with r.a.a. and the n.p.a. to find a way to stop copyright infringement and apparently they've been plotting this since last july these people know how to keep a secret that is until this week a c.e.o. cary sherman decided to spill the beans and reveal that the major aya species will all be on the same page and ready to attack by this summer this even though there's ample evidence that policing the web for pirates isn't the best way to handle the issue but of course not surprisingly sherman doesn't see it that way and in fact he told the tech site seen at the companies have been working behind the scenes to develop a streamlined method of finding infringers term explained each i.s.p. has to develop their infrastructure for automating the system they need this to establish the database so they can keep track of repeat infringers so they know that this is the first notice or the third notice so they have their goods you know the i's be has been working behind theirs customers backs and simply didn't mention
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their plan during the entire month long debate around sopa and pipa and to show how thoroughly they've worked out their plan there's even a penalty system that's going to be implemented called mitigation measures which can range from throttling down your internet connection speed to completely suspending your access altogether but guess who else is behind this master plan was it just the big wigs in hollywood but washington d.c. also knew about it and i guess we can't be surprised after all lawmakers actually thought earlier this year that they could pass the stop online piracy act or protect intellectual property act until of course every major tech company millions of internet users all convince them that these bills have no place becoming law if you are so opposed to sopa and pipa and even stage an on i black out and guess what it worked it looks like hollywood is playing the long game here and they're covering all of their baby. they went to both the government and the private sector to make sure they had every tool in the box on their site so clearly they're not going down without a fight so people mark your calendars july twelfth it is hollywood is coming for
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you again and this time they're using your internet service provider to help them carry out their plans. and a fall continues after the shooting of sixteen civilians in afghanistan afghan president hamid karzai is now demanding the u.s. confine troops to major bases by next year or early statement said not a single foreign soldiers should enter afghan homes and the entire attention should switch to the country's reconstruction and economic assistance he cannot do that but a taliban statement was released saying that they are suspending it peace talks because the u.s. turned its back on its promises so clear the situation here isn't getting any better but just how much worse could it get to when we discuss it is robert farley system professor at the university of kentucky and blogger lawyers guns and money robert thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess for starters you know what do you make of this announcement that was made by cars i specially considering that defense secretary leon panetta was there for two days clearly this is
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a tense trip and according to karzai office he said it to panetta. well this is a this is a significant change in. u.s. for structure in afghanistan and it would be very difficult for the united states to carry out its operation without. being able to want to homes without being able to go into religious and so far as i want to confine u.s. forces just to major bases and politically that makes a lot of sense for parts i put at same time it's very difficult for the united states to do what it's supposed to be doing at least from our point of view we're going to stop writing that war is working quite a major bases is it just difficult or is it or does it become completely impossible to do what you are trying to do i think i can find a basis there are there are some things that you can do there are some situations especially in parts of the country where move moralists really where united states forces engage them in what amounts to basic set piece battles away from villages away from houses and so forth and even for major bases the u.s.
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can still conduct those kinds of operations but that's totally detached from the sort of counterinsurgency warfare that you know has been talking about for the last three or four years in afghanistan which involves close contact between u.s. forces and the population and it's also hard to say how the u.s. is going to train the afghan police and the afghan national army what it's restricted from some of the most basic tasks involved with the afghan population so i guess we just see this whole idea of winning hearts and minds thinking a little more because basically they're saying we don't mind coming anywhere near the population anymore it's taking that request do not have u.s. forces go night raids and only have you know afghan security forces to now just don't even leave the base period but at the same time hard as i also said that he thinks the afghan security forces are ready to take over right now is there anybody that could think that that is possibly true. well nobody in the u.s. army seems to think so nobody in the united states don't seem to think so. but then
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we should remember that we don't know what sort of us perspective. on how exactly afghan forces are going to perform and we certainly don't have his perspective on how they're going to perform when they no longer the united states to rely on right now when they have americans to rely on their performance isn't great when they don't have americans to rely on it's entirely possible that their performance name through they'll still be some levels of support some levels of training and certainly support in terms of weapons and reconnaissance and so forth for the afghan national army. so i think it remains to be seen exactly who's right on the on how capable and competent the afghan national army is we're going to have to wait until the americans are gone to find that out i saw the what do you think about the statement coming from the taliban came because they said that they suspended the talks which i guess gives us the idea that they might be ok with them starting up again which then makes the question of this is just a way for them to you are you know to pile on because clearly there's a lot of negative p.r. in the situation right now. right and it's interesting that. they focused on
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the question of how the negotiations have been going so sort of pre-arrangements between the united states and the taliban the taliban felt that the american set up and fully fully fulfilling and they didn't concentrate so much on this most recent incident with the u.s. staff sergeant and so you know it's really hard to say because we don't have a good sense of how the taliban think of how the organization functions and so it's possible that they're simply bargaining for more space if they feel this is not a victory had that they could take advantage of this victory by curing of just how badly the united states wants to go see asians but it's also possible that there's genuine disagreement on the taliban about how far negotiations should go at all. and of course we're going to see a lot of disagreement here at home she was there's always been a lot of disagreement i guess you could say over the war in afghanistan but now suddenly we've seen this shift where it's ok to say that we shouldn't get out and
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we should wrap the war up and you have one horrible incident after another happening but then at the same time next week general john allen is going to be testifying on capitol hill and so the way the is looking so far from reports is that we see this breakdown between the military officials the generals that want as many troops as they possibly can and they want to keep them for as long as they can and so while thus far for ten years congress has been willing to do it do you think that we've seen some kind of a shift some kind of a turning point where that's just not going to work anymore but i really think we're approaching the point i think we're getting to the point where the only people who want greater engagement in afghanistan and our generals and it's not even all the generals right but it's certain parts of certain parts especially the army and. marine corps that want to remain in afghanistan and more to continue with . your problem doesn't seem to want this anymore most of congress even republicans don't seem to want to see any more major republican candidates and
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santorum and sort of fairly clear. downsizing of u.s. forces there and so we are coming to see a significant divide on afghanistan between some parts of the military on one hand and almost everyone else on the other and it's hard to say we're going to likely polls on you know when you order the surge and many people are going to want to so we'll see exactly. but you know this is a. you know if you ask me i don't think that there was ever going to be a graceful exit from afghanistan for say that's that's what the situation is but just looking back at all of the events that happened in the beginning of this year do you think that it's going to be. worse than they imagine it you know put it in some way have been a more smooth transition or are these events that are really going to mark you know that or that are going to play out in the history books and say it's who i think
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it's really hard to say. here we will know if the afghanistan if that would throw from afghanistan it was graceful if five years later the karzai regime or whoever succeeds because i was still in power and that may be great they are still the mayor of kabul. haven't already taken control of the country but this is really put us into a position where i think that the american people are so eager to get out or increasing what you can do you know we're sort of going to be huge increase but. we don't need to leave gracefully at this point we just need to know probably was that this didn't have to happen this way. decision so it sort of rocks the sport and i just want to hear from specter you know when defense secretary leon panetta was there there was of course an incident with a driver of the trying to block a car which they tried to downplay and at the same time i have seen so many people e-mail me this report that they made the marines disarm you know leave their
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weapons before going into the tents where defense secretary leon panetta with the you know is that really that i'm usual is that some sign that there is a lack of trust or just fear after this incident. and one of the units in the cross oh i don't know i don't know enough about the special circuits in particular but i'm to say exactly why the marines were card so you know certainly to start something with it will try to car onto the tarmac basically were put it was going to i mean even if it's a surprise really really does create some trust issues because the u.s. presence is on friendly afghans and that's we've had a lot of incidents may not remain completely friendly when unfortunate stuff like this happens. arwa i thank you so much for joining us tonight and of course we'll keep following it here but we'll see if we are going to see some major shift for going to see this withdrawal out in faster than everyone expected. thank you. all right still to come tonight show intel is coming up and then anonymous has
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