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the russians would be soo much brighter if you knew the song from feinstein crashing these. stones on t.v. dot com. one thirty pm in moscow these here are t. headlines syrian authorities accuse qatar and saudi arabia over suicide attacks and president assad stronghold has reports emerged saudis may have been arming syrian rebels. anyway gyptian constitution not yet written but already in the middle of a controversy with calls to dissolve the panel that separate fraud. lawmakers in washington and the illegal winds over the freedom of assembly making it easier to put demonstrators behind bars protesting in areas where the president may be visiting could now be considered
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a felony. next of sporting the wrist surrounding things nuclear weapons arsenals across the globe stay with us. up. the follow from the french tests went beyond the polynesian islands it caused outrage in new zealand which took the lead in the anti-nuclear movement and became a black sheep among western countries yes unlike any other country new zealand refused to rely on nuclear weapons for its security but here nuclear technology is banned it's the law i think a lot of the young people to feel trapped about the zero in this country policy but i think people have come a bit complacent and feel that it's fine we're safe there are these other issues here i mean a lot of people to say people in the peace movement has to be sent out it means gravy it's response and that's what people stick. even in new zealand it's difficult to find young people concerned about this issue they are more sensitive
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to the melting of the antarctic and he wants to revitalize the aging pacifist movement and i'm wishing peace foundation in my role is to use outreach coordinator . to the race and they are going to tell he see to the pacific he fist of all. it's amazing all these amazing people from twenty seven different countries in the pacific and i felt for the first time in my life that new zealand was not remote and that we were big he had to. sort things out the pacific garden country. i was pushed out from the higher the pace it was mother she's been around during peace activist the last thirty years so it's in my blood and i feel a sponsor for the seat to continue that way. i hope it's funny memory of mum buying a cream place stickers that you put on it windows of the rainbow warrior and the face of terrorism and now i am however on a pipe that was on
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a peaceful mission and really search so quiet here living in a safe country i think it's the younger generation that teaching the next generation and you can see it hope really the strength that we have given young people especially on actually a good policy because this treaty is since we actually passed the rule and we want to young people to know about the law because any was only four when the law was passed. on the old ties his hands i could see it's interesting because we're focused on. nothing in this day and it's what. i feel this is the way that things were. not on the surface and in the bin laden tape they knew that he is all right or they're. listening to the stories both people are mum and. peacemakers in israel and in the work that they've done because me hard and i think that i've seen what ordinary citizens can go right the
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difference and i feel that i can try. to prevent the young people from feeling a sense of powerlessness that pacifists remind them of the long crusade that made their country nuclear free and either confirm or deny you can feel the pride in me that we had governments and politicians prepared to go on those rights to go out there and actually protest i mean it was something we did as ordinary citizens working with governments you've got a partnership model there is an unusual i think right around the world. to notice it took another twelve years to get along a government that actually ran on a. ticket and won and and then it was consolidated by the stupidity of the french in thinking but they would somehow stop this problem by bombing the rainbow warrior and what it did instead was absolutely cemented it
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hope it's not just regional it's important to remember that the british and australia on aboriginal lamed fallout that came from near actually came over to new zealand not just from what was happening by the french and to even. the british preceded the french in the pacific beginning in one nine hundred fifty two they tested their way into the very restricted. by the u.s.s.r. . with the assistance of the australian and new zealand military. and studied. the results demonstrated the presence of elevator chromosomal disturbances . actions every five years ago. so that basically saying i have suffered damage since we spoke recently is a national conference here on so much when the daughter of one of the trends spycatcher father was too ill to speak and she talked about growing up with that fear of having my child born deformed even in new zealand because of the effects of
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radiation from. exposed to some of the stuff that. i don't like you. i have three children. and i don't live with these it's a really. i was so it was normal until i got to school and it's just on the merits. so i would appear. and most of the kids would say a mother's a take her name and then i'll say i am i'm trying to stop nuclear. because that's how i understood. crane as a mixed maybe command her now working at the department of security. back in the one nine hundred seventy s. when i was actually suffering helicopters i was required to train my
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crew in using his nuclear bomb which we were given. if we ever had to release it. for a helicopter we could not escape for it doesn't exist so it was a suicide mission i asked a few questions i was reassured that we probably would never really have to use it it shocked me but i was ambitious no one else was complaining and we were told that this is the only way that britain could keep her independence i realize that. only later many years later of. this was completely untrue. as a new conference against nuclear weapons i was looked upon with great school by the . peace movement in britain i tried to explain that i was not a psychopath my friends we are psychopaths and we are professional military men.
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who thought very deeply about what we did but i did agree with them the nuclear weapon was an aberration. and crying thank you. he had a conscience to do something about these and i can't imagine a going around its merits. just carries on and i see him stuck now so passionate about what he does that it's just sad not to rob well it is the also a cautionary tale part of a so it's nothing like convert. the always tend to overdo it because you really understand you know which of what spain proposed the pentagon. will say oh don't worry we have everyone on well trained we have plenty of safety systems there can not be
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a accidental start of an open air war. no through weapons are built to be used the risk is not zero that something might be going off by mistake especially with thousands of the nuclear weapons on hair trigger alert l.e.o.'s than in russia in the united states. i think it's eleven upon make bombs accidentally. we dropped off of spain we have dropped one nuclear weapon in a marsh here in the united states now and still there was never a foul that we knew. the weapons are such a huge issue with such high risks associated with on that there's a natural tendency to play both sides usually they say they're coming back but at the same time they maintain extremely high numbers of weapons it's only given the number of near misses we are lucky to still be here right the activists are
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convinced that an accident is pending ok and that the only valid security system is the total abolition of nuclear weapons in ninety six when we began to swell project time it was a strain if you say i'm going to clean it with friends and we go in everywhere else in the world by going to the world course we could get the conscience of the ordinary citizen around the world saying these are against the moral conscience of people it's illegal to use nuclear weapon tomorrow and the dream was so easy to get it through the u.n. and into the world court and that eventually these weapons would be deeply the legal as we had done in our country and thank goodness that we were dreamers and i'm realistic and. that we were posted by the sense of hope that this could happen but the real source of our international treaties has to marry international law and the general principles of law recognised by the legal systems of the world.
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that way categorical on the batting of nuclear weapons and the legality of nuclear weapons the fact that nuclear weapons cannot be used either by way of a strike or by a threat you know to mostly. a threat or use of force. by means of nuclear weapons and that these contrary to article two of the united nations charter and of article if you want. is unlawful. nucular deterrence says we have nuclear weapons but our goal is not to use them if. your goal is to have them at our disposal. this means that we are not in the realm of the real we are in the realm of the virtual need don't know what you just read it is contrary to
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international law or even to have invented assonance this weapon because the purpose of the weapon is to use it either as a threat or as an actual weapon the nuclear powers or alliances like nato still rely on nuclear deterrence which is threat and so the fight continues i was on a panel with a senior advisor to the british government about nuclear policy and he's pro nuclear and we were debating. about. the world court opinion and whether nuclear deterrence was legal and he was extremely cynical he said that . it was a mistake to go into the course but governments would ignore it and that's true they have. and the other thing he relied on all the time was he said and of course we never actually will have to use them and this to me is the heart of the problem
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for the people who brought you to terms is that if they try to claim a little use and then turns doesn't work where many would argue that terence does mean use of state is a use of a nuclear weapon to actually threaten to use them and that's when you need to that will cause the first time you want to get that threet yeah and the spinning it was the south pacific noirs and the activists that are going to have threesome clued in their original question if you have a clean threat then the. nuclear states can barguti well we're only relying deterrence which is threat and so we're not pretty as i waited for him. to family years ago to go back to the court personnel present. at a time when judges agreed unanimously on the requirement for total nuclear disarmament the activists are fighting talbott opinion on and this is.
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what i'm saying that the lawyers and others wanting to do is to use the unanimous part of the opinion and i wanted to say to news on how can we make it stronger how can we you know what are they doing that state practice that is still illegal. is that your understanding of it as a member there looking for some new lever to put more pressure on the stage to comply and design completely not just to reduce. yes on nuclear weapons in fact it's reverse since the world horses and the americans particularly have come out and said that. they see new roles for nuclear weapons and so we're back to almost like a sort of cold war situation again but with the war on terror instead and so it's going to be far more difficult to get governments to put their heads over the parapet of the nonproliferation treaty does provide a framework for ending the threat of destruction inspections very clear we're
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assigning sinar states out of the green to take good faith efforts to build a limited nuclear weapons and i'm not ok with that and now of course we focus on regulations by which those who are like policemen on the world scene i'm talking of the nuclear powers they are violating this very law which they want other countries to observe now where if a policeman but it's the law you cannot expect the rest of the world to come play with a lot of the only thing that would work would be one that is perceived to be nondiscriminatory and fair and equally applied to all countries whose one approach that has followed these bears is you know dividing the world between friends courtroom called good countries and court and court bad or raw countries or evil doers that approach doesn't work it doesn't pay too much to remember that in the one nine hundred
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eighty s. garble sand in iraq was a friend of the west to. the criminally stolen our intelligence agencies like the invasion of iraq. nuclear proliferation and terror. for good reasons lisa we have to turn to the other side. and no one is going to through the united states where. we are spending as much as the rest of the little. or nothing spending so the only reasonable target. for. the activists are understandably anxious as a result of the nuclear posture review in this classified u.s. military documents the security guarantees that protected countries without nuclear weapons against a nuclear offensive are cancelled a strategy of action is being adopted in addition to deterrence so the arsenals must be upgraded to make it easier to use france and britain have responded with
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surprising enthusiasm to this nuclear renaissance that the united kingdom is going to pretend that it needs nuclear weapons for its survival or its security it was attacking the united kingdom some have got the very strange idea that because there's terrorists in the world we need to have nuclear weapons can be used nuclear weapons against terrorists but it would that not be rather like shooting musky just with chemicals i think the british would make a much bigger splash in the history of the world if they decided that they let the program expire we are still fighting with the public war between britain and france because when i finally cornered. any senior british military man these days and asking why do you need you can get
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this straight every time it's nothing to do with security it's nothing to do with the russians do with the french we cannot allow france to be the only european nuclear power. and there is this fear that britain will become like president if they can you can free they will be of no consequence in the world. even though i do this work i constantly get i've been around a minute discussion that we were having talking about the reality of next year we pins on the streets sometimes i just want to curl my list i've had enough. and lose heart but at the same time i think. something has to be done and if i am going to persist that i can do something i will. i mean our parents' generation they go out on the woods and things and cries and said now you guys but among the young people
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i speak to a movie night. and i think they are also some of the names of. the song engines you can see this is and i've got a shame. like a longing in occasions in which comes from live sort of active projects going to people solidarity emerges from it which i don't think exists so much among people that it might just as it's before the invasion of iraq there were millions of people are just dying and still you know there's a million people under no restraints on water and so i mean it's not necessarily it's you got to convince the public street or because certainly we're going to be afraid here we're going to be here and we're going to be very extreme trying to trace and i think the mobilization that would occur would be huge many steps here like no one's taking you or anything like that because it's kind of a feeling it's still be a kind of case. because so be it. but i would suspect that
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a lot of young people have asked for much interest in some of these issues that. comply and that overwhelmed by all of us here is a moment where the maybe when we don't listen to the guards the peace movement can say to humanity you know if you keep spending a trillion dollars a year on weapons of venture you're going to blow everybody up you can you know people are dying from these weapons but until we actually see it people don't don't wake up to it. in two thousand and six canadian activists trying to drum up public interest in nuclear disarmament worldwide military expenditures had risen to more than one trillion dollars this was a traumatic event for those who took to the streets during the cold war. the nuclear early night. problem. it was the largest and most effective nonviolent he's moved into history and successful i'm in the united states was moving
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towards sharp increase in our fancy of nuclear capacity was and it was forced to back down and threat of the reagan administration was forced to topped the rhetoric hopefully he's going to form in order to continue with other programs that's where stormwater strength from and we're not planning to attack anyone or interest but until i live in a nuclear weapons if you measured the peace movement by the number of people who march in one thousand nine hundred two there were one million marched in central park in new york at the height of the cold war. last year there were forty thousand who marched up to the review conference of the nonproliferation treaty well the big difference in numbers true. was organization total would significantly up the list and there are very clear. non violent.
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regional things i want to. say the importance of nuclear proliferation the very first go to one thousand or even aware or concerned with what a surprise to discover a fifteen year old concerned by the outcome of the nonproliferation treaty is name is rafael even though. i'd just like to say that the view in your speech is right now sir. i might say. right through it once i actually found out that it was three different people who really made it clear to me speakers. and strip search which it's talking at and i watched it smash were very like stage you have a speaker all the way from new york. she is an activist disarmament educator producer your advisor on the list just keeps going is there
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a warm welcome for kathleen. ok the effectiveness of a social movement is sometimes very surprising and hard to track but it also depends on the creativity of the of the social movements themselves in the activist involved with ideas and images and stories and that's why we sailed boats into nuclear tests and they've kind of surmised that all the weapons used in the second world war are equivalent to say three megatons that includes the two nuclear weapons used by her seaman office saki all the bombs and the bullets. that represents all of the firepower of the second world war ok so now i'm going to give you another sound and this second sound is the equivalence firepower of the world's nuclear arsenal today.
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the only way forward that would make sense and would stop this mad rush for seeking the capability to make nuclear weapons is for those countries that have nuclear weapons to find
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a way to give them up and to rely for security on non-nuclear means. when i say america rushed over the past couple of weeks five or six countries have indicated that they might be interested in developing a capability to enrich uranium australia canada craned kazakhstan south africa. these countries have said why should they be left behind canada is interested in the small level of richmond very far away from a nuclear weapons capability but the technology for enrichment under less is the same we sometimes refer to it as a latent proliferation you put in place all the technologies to make nuclear weapons but you stop at a much lower level. borders today as part of an old us we were third world but with our dedication to peacekeeping as a percentage of gross domestic product we've now dropped down to late. we used to
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be leading the world in the battle against nuclear proliferation and we were the leading countries in the world in the battle against the weaponization of space canada has very little space in which to. make progress because. it's a member of nature and nature is a neutral alliance it's like nothing i've signed on to which clearly canadian for portugal because policy military policy perspective changed dramatically and we canadians are big trouble in terms of birth as sterkel commitment to peace and to serve women. everything is in place to proceed with disarmament one hundred eighty eight countries committed to disarm they said the shining message that good will could prevail but so far the governments choose to spend billions perfecting this terminal threat rather than fighting poverty or global warming. to future
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generations heirs to the thousands of bombs be as lucky as their parents will be live without seeing a nuclear explosion either by accident or by design maybe maybe not. but until the treaties and international law are on. a bomb being.
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