but. me i'm moving. well i'm john harwood in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture the temperature isn't the only thing heating up across the nation how has the warmer weather reenergize the occupy wall street movement where does it go from here also corporations control many aspects of our lives for our use of the internet has remained largely free of corporate influence is coming to an end and how will a new anti-piracy plan affect your ability to access the web and mitt romney may be strengthening his grip on the presidential nomination but new questions are surfacing over his treatment of man's best friend seamus the dog be the undoing of

romney's presidential ambitions. you need to know this the warm weather is back and so is occupy wall street hundreds of demonstrators returned as a crowded parking lot are manhattan on saturday to celebrate the six month anniversary of the movement but as the sun went down the peaceful crowd was once again broken up by n.y.p.d. officers in all seventy four people were arrested and there were widespread allegations of police brutality against peaceful demonstrators one woman was taken to hospital after appearing to suffer a seizure so it looks like the grassroots activism the swept the nation last fall is such a bloom again in the spring unfortunately so is the violence suppression of free speech as the oligarchy and banks to cling to their power enormous wealth and economic instability and social unrest and looking at recent economic numbers the

top one percent in america have a lot to lose recent report by the roosevelt institute found it twenty ten the first full year of the economic recovery the top one percent collected ninety three . percent of all the new income gains in america that's even better than their average over the last thirty years will be sucked up eighty percent of all the new income gains as a result this is been an economic recovery since basically since two thousand and eight benefiting just the very rich now after the great depression the exact opposite was true one day after the stock market crash in one nine hundred twenty nine everybody thought oh it's only going to influence rich people our children thirty one hundred twenty nine year times wrote yesterday's market crash was one which largely affected rich man institutions and investment trusts and others who participate in the stock market on a broad intelligent scale president hoover didn't bail these guys out and you know it got pretty bad roosevelt and he didn't bail anybody out in fact his policies

were to definitely not bail out the middle class who was in wretched problems roosevelt did not consider continue the favorable economic policies that have been established before him by harding coolidge and hoover for the bank stores and for the guys in wall street and so they didn't get any rate you know as profits he did just the opposite with new regulations for example glass steagall roosevelt focused on the middle class with his new deal and this was the result if you look at that first year of the recovery one hundred thirty three one hundred thirty four the bottom ninety percent saw an eight point eight percent increase in their in income whereas the very rich people the top suit top one hundred the one percent top one tenth of one percent should point one saw a three point four percent decline in their income so the the process was actually rounding out the middle you could say the middle class was growing and the inequality a great wealth inequality between the rich and the poor was diminished. fast

forward to today two thousand and two thousand and ten the super rich the top one tenth of one percent saw a twenty one percent increase in their income it was a decrease back afterwards after the great depression and the ninety percent of the bottom ninety percent of us lost actually four tenths of one percent the rich got richer the poor got poorer in today's recovery compared to roosevelt's and the future doesn't look all that promising the only way to fix our on equal economic recovery is for our congress to start with you know for the middle class instead of what vice president joe biden last week called the privileged class but congress refuses to act and has its lowest approval rating ever recorded its level percent and its team of political scientists might have figured out why professors keith pool and howard rosenthal examined the votes taken by the house of representatives during this congress and compared to previous congresses all the way back to eight hundred seventy nine the founding of our republic and what they found is that this

house of representatives that's the green line the combined house of representatives high is conservative low is liberal this house of representatives right now is the most conservative it's been since arguably ever. made here why because the republicans have gone totally radical the democrats have been fairly consistent in being fairly progressive but the republicans are more extreme and more radical than they have ever been in the history of this country. this is the house of representatives of course was elected with the help of over three hundred million dollars in outside corporate spending thanks to the supreme court's citizens united decision in two thousand and ten strongly influenced and paid for by the billionaire koch brothers and the multimillionaire lobbyist dick armey it's the same people abroad as the tea party the working people of the middle class have totally lost control of our democracy in our economy which explains why occupy wall street will never go away until this stuff is stopped and prosecuted and explains why it's so important to amend the constitution and the right of these guys to buy

our elected officials and write our was more information on that go to move to amend or. since i first took office six months ago the occupy wall street movement has done a remarkable job with changing the narrative in our media and politics the billionaire funded tea parties cries for us tyranny and debt reduction have been replaced by a grassroots car for new opportunity economic opportunities government investments and a lessening of wealth inequality and as we saw over the weekend a fall of police brutality and a winter of frozen activity can't be real the occupy movement as it's set to bloom again this spring so what can we expect moving forward and what goals are really attainable this year for occupy wall street j meyerson joins me now from new york city is a participant with occupy wall street and a journalist regular contributor to truthout jay welcome. good to have you back with us is i for my wall street the process of reinventing itself. it's certainly

in the process of reviving itself in fact they've established a new occupation at union square where last night about forty people slept in even more look set to sleep there tonight. it appears as though occupy wall street is definitely back in full swing where is this place where there are there are. in union square where the occupiers marched during the incredibly fraught. from zuccotti park to her in this police brutality they wound up at union square and so that they're ok so as they as they renew themselves or reinvent themselves or really revive or i forget the word you used was is good what is the new you have there you go what is the newly renewed occupy wall street going to look like and how are they going to be behaving. it's going to be more radical i mean i think it's going to call for different stuff from what you just mentioned

the prevailing chance that happens most frequently now and from the most number of people which didn't used to be so goes on t m t least now anti-capitalism isn't a very specific ideology but it it's this it is a definite rejection of the reigning ideology and i think that it dovetails nicely with your history lesson there because what's important to note about the new deal is that it took place at a time it wasn't just roosevelt who did it although he did say i welcome the bankers hatred the reason he said that is because he was pandering to a really enraged leftist movement i mean they were there were hundreds of thousands of communist party members at the time so i think that a people's movement that calls attention to the depravity of the very system that that reigns is what forced roosevelt's hand and as you know he said you know go make me do it so that the fact that occupy wall street is now chanting that it's anti-capitalist although i'm sure that's not true to a person that that is an encouraging sign given your historical parallel and yet

roosevelt famously not just said but insisted that he was trying to save capitalism he had he was walking this very narrow line where you have a communist on one side or any of the fascists on the other and both of them were considered legitimate movements in the one nine hundred thirty s. the early one thousand thirty's and and he was trying to walk down the middle and invent reinvent capitalism in a way that it was sufficiently regulated that the wild excesses that we're seeing today for example that we saw in the twenty's would not bring it down again. do you really think that the vast majority of americans who are who they are not probably politically sophisticated are economically specific enough to know that capitalism is an economic system not a political system or even to know what it is is an economic system and those people who. are people calling my radio show i'm a capitalist i am oh really you earn your living sitting around waiting for. investment checks oh of course not i work hard on

a capitalist and like you don't know what you have to assess how can you have a movement that poses capitalism when the vast literally ninety nine percent of americans probably could not define capital with the word capitalism well the vast majority of americans in the eight hundred thirty s. thought that out bullish an ism was movement and if you'd told people in mississippi in one thousand nine hundred five not in the north ages then found it you know there was a across the north there was a huge anti-slavery movement through literally from the founding of this country there were there were states in the north the you know in delaware new jersey that proudly allowed african-americans to vote in the seven hundred eighty s. and women as well were voting in some of those states new hampshire i mean there is that was not an american attitude that was a southern it. well be that as it may radical ideas become mainstream as conditions get worse and worse and we're looking at a spring that might bring insolvency to bank of america that might roll out indictments from eric schneiderman zz investigation that might see greece pull out

of the euro and the devaluation of that currency and its reverberations on the dollar a lot is at stake this spring of course you know israel might bomb iran and throw the whole commodities market into chaos so as conditions get crazier and crazier the people will try again as milton friedman said that when things changes when there is a crisis in the way that the changes described by the ideas lying around so if occupy wall street is an idea that's lying around it is an excess of bull i'll turn it over to more capitalism which is the response that we gave the bailouts and fall of two thousand and eight i think you could probably see some really big change but it won't be easy as the cops showed although i think i would argue that that wasn't capitalism that was that was something else but and now it's not to be defending capitalism but any i j i'd like to continue this conversation some time we have a lot more time thanks so much for being with us. here as always we'll be keeping close tabs on the occupy wall street movement as the ninety nine percent work to take back this country from the banks to as they were ripping us off. after the

break on july twelfth internet providers will begin putting in place a new anti-piracy plan writing down on bandwidth and restricting access to popular websites this is the beginning of the corporate lockdown of the internet. he just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old on to tell the truth. it says and i am a total ghetto and that i love rap and hip hop is second and. country

was kind of the jester that. i'm very proud of the role that i can see its place. look look. look . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.

in screwed news the largest online protest in the history of the internet they have the railed radical anti-piracy legislation so can i put bills earlier this year but major entertainment corporations like the recording industry association of america

the motion picture association of america are still coming after you with the help of internet service providers like comcast rise in eighty n.t. tabs are now being kept on people who are sharing copyrighted material online but on july twelfth internet providers will begin putting into place a new anti-piracy plan warning internet users that they could face penalties of up to one hundred fifty thousand dollars per file if they continue to file share. providers will begin cutting down or eliminated altogether bandwidth for so-called offenders until said offender agrees to take for example an education course on piracy providers may also restrict access to only major websites like google and facebook and most disturbingly providers may share your information with other internet providers to effectively create a blacklist of people who won't be allowed to sign in on line so this is the corporate lockdown of the internet that we've all feared here to answer that is david seltzer attorney specializing in cyber crimes and mark was interning specializing in intellectual property rights copyrights and patents welcome to both

of you graham great to have you leave me david let me start with you what is this this crackdown that's coming and you know how is this initiated and how is it probably going to play out. how it's going to play out is anyone's game but there are pros and cons to every situation it was initiated by the a top to crackdown on all the illegal downloads i've represented so when people get subpoenas and notices that are john doe's and lawsuits because they're downloading illegal music or illegal video files and they just had enough and they're trying to stop it whether this is the answer i don't know but ultimately comes in most of those cases is small amounts small amounts of settlements and the case goes away and get your name removed from the lawsuit but the end of the day there is some positive to this legislation and i think i'm a first hand example of why just recently i had my network hacked at my house and i received a notice that someone's been downloading illegal material from my house had i not received that notice my network would have been wide open and i would have been for

the all the world to use my signal to compete continue to commit crimes now and my concern about a simple are i a claim no but given what i do in my defense i don't like having open wireless network because given what i know anybody can use my network to commit a criminal act so there are pros and cons to everything but that's that's that's also a good argument for thirty five dollars of software that tells you you know how many people around her neck. it's a wreck i'm not sure that you need to have already made this you're going to come in in your face you know sonny serving you legal documents. when there are those i both know well it was because of people and people are sharing your network it's something that keeps you on your toes now i don't have a problem with it i don't have a problem with the notice i have no problem with this legislation i don't think it goes beyond the invasion of privacy that everybody's claiming about ok mark potter happened copyright was the there's a there's a ted talk that's gone viral i forget the guy's name but he's talking about how you know when they first came up with the two hundred fifty thousand dollars fine it was during the era of walkmans and walkman so you know the song right now and you

could have eight songs on there one album maybe ten songs one hundred fifty thousand dollars each you know going to have million bucks that you could pirate on a walkman now you could have literally a billion dollars in theory worth of music and i pop i don't i pod or you know some similar device on your phone isn't. i haven't the copyright laws and the penalties and the length of these to that copyrights are held just gone nuts in large part in in response to pressure from disney wants to protect the maoists and the the movie picture industry on them and the music industry. certainly does the case where the punishment does not fit the crime but you can download a song for ninety nine cents purses being called unlawfully downloading a particular. acetate under two hundred thousand dollars. under oath that is certainly a case where the laws have not kept up with technology thomas jefferson mark

aggressively argued that patent trademark arise which didn't exist as you know in the early days of couple of years of the republic and we passed them all the constitution gives congress the the right the ability to do it that they should a not existed or b. if they did exist they should rise to warmer than three years because there's no such thing as an invention out of the blue every invention is built on something that preceded it and arguably everything is copyrighted you know as an intellectual invention a creative invention that's built on the preceded it how easy is there any debate in legal circles about dialing back the length that the patent laws are being used by or pharmaceutical companies for example jack up profits or the copyright laws are being used by you know disney and others. well certainly the copyright laws have continually been extended in fact the last extension was nine hundred ninety eight to protect steamboat willie to preserve that kind of thing

right through the year two thousand and twenty three and i think we may see another copyright extension in twenty twenty three bad laws as twenty years from the date of filing an ocean at least we ought to keep in mind that we were covered by several international treaties that were signatories to the bird convention for the copyright which requires a fifty year minimum terror certain copyright. and then also the. p.c.t. ferrous corporation treaty for patents but not a lot of. buzz or is reducing a patent. leap right now the debates really standard for civility whether or not the crown to punish me. and whether or not we are still instead of by the creation of intellectual property with our current system we just have the american event which i changed the system from first to invent

a first to file in order to become more in line with the international community and certainly the type of supplement. or take. the. negative publicity those two actressy. over the past several months those are mechanisms to try to protect this industry is very well the industry of copyright subject matter of movies music and in order to if it were to continue encouraging this innovation and software i would identify bill gates as probably a major recipient of or in the united states most of us billions of the result of copyright laws. and more. or david excuse me the enforcement act that's coming along here on july twelfth are they going to go after people who are using file

sharing protocols like the torrents of the old napster kind of programs or are they going to be monitoring download activity for people who are using is free of the websites file share websites. we have this guy was busted you know just recently running a file share website or even usenet which is actually coming through he's what are they going to be doing. i don't know what specifically they're going to be doing but i would imagine they're going to be monitoring all of them it's in their benefit to monitor all of them but again i don't really understand why the world is up in arms for protection of copyrighted material in the sense that we allow this information to be copyright and we as a society allow these laws to be in place we don't you know we don't challenge their legislation at the end of the day and we're basically upset that we're trying to allow them to be enforced in the company losing money now i understand these are big corporate companies and all wants to cry of cry over spilt milk for a big corporate coming losing a couple of bucks but then the day law is a law you know we submit and we succumb to the laws when we don't we get

a driver's license so when you surf the web you know there's you're going to surf the web it has to comply with the law there's also the question of the practicality of it and in the. you know whether this is actually protecting these companies for example i do a three hour radio show or had done for nine years it's copyrighted we sell podcasts so theoretically if somebody is stealing those and giving them away that's cutting into my revenues and it's not an insignificant amount of revenue we found that there's a bunch of bit torrent sites out there that are giving away our podcasts and surprise surprise a lot of people who have been downloading them off torrent sites eventually subscribe i think frankly are making money because people are giving them away so you know and that's quite possible quite quite will be in order to your benefit you eventually are making money because there's downloads but not everything is the case most of the people are you know that the n.c.a.a. claims that we get in the claims i defend you know people are losing money and they don't see it that way but again every case is different that's why there's really

no right answer at the end of day the real question is going to be is how is this in force are they going to start shutting down people's household ip addresses because they're going to diminish their bandwidth to a point where they can't surf the web because they have to take some online course now realistically one of the you learn from some online course diversion for dummies on the wrist or you know whether they have to sit there and click a mouse for. for hours and say look i completed the course here's my fic in my internet back what are they gonna learn well the next time what's the current thinking of me and yes there's this blacklist going to create a situation where someone eventually will never get internet service no that's ridiculous in this day and age i'm guessing it's going to be more public shaming but we'll see. marc your thoughts as an attorney on on this piece of legislation and where this is going. to do. it this is that calling to be cheese where you go after the little fish and the individual. teenagers that are downloading loathly on their parents' computers but certainly when you look at the

bill it to protect. content owners in copyright infringers and individuals and companies that allow whole search widespread copyright infringement is a step in the right direction for those for those companies for companies like the the that is going to put the torrent business out of business very quickly. the question is for us too but i but i think i think given the world the panning out what media are media you're talking about what's downloaded on the torrent system whether it's child pornography or music some people hope the torrent system goes out of business ok great david mark thank you both for being with us. if you push it the real issue here in my opinion is one of corporate welfare corporations a lot legislation to protect their patents and copyrights in ways that in my opinion are absurdly long and i am

a beneficiary of copyright laws there long enough to wildly inflate their profits and with absurdly severe penalties one hundred fifty thousand dollars penalty for downloading i pod could have what's apparently billions as i noted of dollars with a bootleg music or video on it is really worth millions personally pharmaceutical companies are doing the same thing with drug patents using them to wildly inflated inflate their profits i think spends the rest of us i believe it's time to back these corporations down and return to some sanity in a copyright that was. crazy alert to much santorum rick santorum is turned off by homosexuality as one of the most outspoken republican candidates on the issue and now it's safe to say gay men everywhere are just as turned off by last week santorum was in puerto rico campaigning before the order puerto rico primary the few hours to kill him between campaign stops he decided to take his shirt off and lounge on

a beach at his hotel just happened to be taking in some sun when an all gay cruise ship passed by one of the men in the crew snapped a picture of santorum which quickly went viral after being posted to the internet this prompted santorum to apologize for his less than flattering appearance we took about an hour to us and out by the pool kids if you raise so i guess the top arrived he got me in and i know i grew up listening to the fifteen twenty pounds but i'm working out i apologize to all these because i'm sure it's not a pretty sight i think it's safe to assume the men on the cruise the same thing to pick. after the break it was dogs against romney has been making a lot of noise in the news over the last week we group have any effect on the general election or the barking up the wrong tree.

you know sometimes you see a story. you think you understand it and then. some other part of it and realize that everything in. our world is a big.