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that's. why no one should really happening to the global economy with mike's concert no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to cause reports. well i'm sorry in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture and temperature isn't the only thing heating up across the nation how has the warmer weather reenergize the occupy wall street movement and where does it go from here also corporations control many aspects of our lives for our use of the internet has remained largely free of corporate influence is coming to an end and how will a new anti-piracy plan affect your ability to access the web and mitt romney may be strengthening his grip on the presidential nomination but new questions are surfacing over his treatment of man's best friend seamus the dog be the undoing of
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romney's presidential ambitions. you need to know this the warm weather is back and so is occupy wall street under the demonstrators returned is a crowded park in lower manhattan on saturday to celebrate the six month anniversary of the movement but as the sun went down the peaceful crowd was once again broken up by n.y.p.d. officers in all seventy four people were arrested and they were widespread allegations of police brutality against peaceful demonstrators one woman is taken to hospital after appearing to suffer a seizure so it looks like a grassroots activism that swept the nation last fall is such a bloom again in the spring unfortunately so is the violence suppression of free speech as the oligarchy and banks to cling to their power enormous wealth and economic instability and social unrest and looking at recent economic numbers. it's
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up one percent in america have a lot to lose recent report by the roosevelt institute found that in twenty ten the first full year of economic recovery the top one percent collected ninety three percent of all the new income gains in america i've seen better than their average over the last thirty years when they suck up eighty percent of all the new income gains as a result this has been an economic recovery since basically since two thousand and eight benefiting dress the very rich now after the great depression the exact opposite was true one day after the stock market crash in one nine hundred twenty nine everybody thought i was only going to influence rich people are two or thirty one thousand twenty nine york times wrote yesterday's market crash was one which largely affected rich man institutions and investment trusts and others who participate in the stock market on a broad intelligent scale president hoover didn't bail these guys out and you know he got pretty bad roosevelt and he didn't bail anybody out in fact his policies were to definitely not bail out the middle class who was in wretched problems
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roosevelt did not consider continue the favorable economic policies that have been established before him by harding coolidge and hoover for the banks toure's and for the for the guys in wall street and so the bigger he rate you know his profits he did just the opposite we new regulations for example glass steagall roosevelt focused on the middle class with this new deal and this was the result if you look at that first year of the recovery nine hundred thirty three one hundred thirty four the bottom ninety percent saw an eight point eight percent increase in their in income whereas the very rich people the top of the suit top one one hundredth of one percent about one tenth of one percent should point one saw a three point four percent decline in their income so the process was actually rounding out the middle you can say the middle class was growing and the inequality great wealth inequality between the rich and the poor was diminished. fast forward
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to today to two thousand and nine two thousand and ten the super rich the top one tenth of one percent so a twenty one percent increase in their income it was a decrease back after the great depression and the ninety percent of the bottom ninety percent of us last actually four tenths of one percent the rich got richer the poor got poorer in today's recovery compared to roosevelt's the future doesn't look all that promising the only way to fix our own april economic recovery is for congress to start looking out for the middle class instead of what vice president joe biden last week called the privileged class the congress refuses to act and has its lowest approval rating ever recorded his eleven percent and team of political scientists might have figured out why professors keith pool and howard rosenthal examined the votes taken by the house of representatives during during this congress and compared to previous congresses all the way back to eight hundred seventy nine the founding of our republic and what they found is that this house of representatives that's the green line the combined house of representatives high is
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conservative low is liberal and the house of representatives right now is the most conservative it's been since arguably ever. maybe here why because the republicans have gone totally radical the democrats have been fairly consistent in being fairly progressive but the republicans are more extreme and more radical than they have ever been in the history of this country. this is aus representatives of course was elected with the help of over three hundred million dollars in outside corporate spending thanks to the supreme court's citizens united decision in two thousand and ten strongly influenced and paid for by the billionaire koch brothers and the multimillionaire lobbyist dick armey the same people who brought us the tea party the working people of the middle class have totally lost control of our democracy in our economy which explains why occupy wall street will never go away until this theft is stopped and prosecutors editor explains why it's so important to amend the constitution and the right of these guys to buy our elected officials
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and write our was more information on that a move to amend or. since the first took off six months ago the occupy wall street movement has done a remarkable job with changing the narrative in our media and politics the billionaire funded tea party's cries for austerity and debt reduction have been replaced by a grassroots call for new opportunity canonic opportunities government investments and the lessening of wealth inequality and as we saw over the weekend a fall of police brutality and a winter of frozen activity can't be real the occupy movement as it's set to bloom again this spring so what can we expect moving forward and what goals are really attainable this year for occupy wall street j meyerson joins me now from new york city to participate with the occupy wall street journal's regular contributor to truth j a welcome i tell great to have you back with us is occupy wall street the process of reinventing itself. it's certainly in the process of reviving
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itself in fact they've established a new occupation at union square where last night about forty people slept in even more look set to sleep there tonight. it appears as though occupy wall street is definitely back in full swing where is this place where there are are there. in union square where the occupiers marched during the incredibly fraught. fiction from zuccotti park to her in this police brutality they wound up at union square and slept there ok so as they as they renew themselves or reinvent themselves or read revive or i forget the word you used which is good what is the new yet there you go what is the newly renewed occupy wall street going to look like and how are they going to be behaving. it's going to be more radical i mean i think it's going to call for different stuff from what you just mentioned
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the prevailing chant that happens most frequently now in from the most number of people which didn't used to be so goes on t m t least now anti-capitalism isn't a very specific ideology but it it's this it is a definite rejection of the reigning ideology and i think that it does calles nicely with your history lesson there because what's important to note about the new deal is that it took place at a time it wasn't just roosevelt who did it although he did say i welcome the banker's hatred the reason he said that is because he was pandering to a really enraged leftist movement i mean there were there were hundreds of thousands of communist party members at the time so i think that a people's movement that calls attention to the depravity of the very system that that reigns is what forced roosevelt's hand and as you know he said you know go make me do it so that the fact that occupy wall street is now chanting that it's anti-capitalist although i'm sure that's not true to a person that that is an encouraging sign given your historical parallel and you
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have roosevelt famously not just said but insisted that he was trying to save capitals he had he was walking this very narrow line where he had the communists on one side and have the fascists on the other and both of them were considered legitimate movements in the one nine hundred thirty s. the early one thousand thirty's and and he was trying to walk down the middle and invent reinvent capitalism in a way that it was sufficiently regulated that the wild excesses that we're seeing today for example that we saw the twenty's would not bring it down again. do you really think that the vast majority of americans who who they are not probably politically sophisticated are economically sophisticated enough to know that capitalism is an economic system not a political system or even to know what it is is an economic system it is people who constantly get people calling my radio show or other capitalism or really you earn your living sitting around waiting for your investment checks oh of course not i work hard have a capital s. and like you don't know if you have to assess how can you have
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a movement that poses capitalism when the vast literally ninety nine percent of americans probably could not define capital but the word capitalism. well the vast majority of americans in the eighteen thirties thought that abolitionism was movement and if you'd told people in mississippi in one thousand nine hundred five out of the north leaders them from it no no there was an across the north there was a huge anti-slavery movement from literally from the founding of this country there were there were states in the north you know in delaware new jersey that proudly allowed african-americans to vote in the seven hundred eighty s. and women as well were voting in some of those states new hampshire i mean there. was not an american attitude that was a southern it. well be that as it may radical ideas become mainstream as conditions get worse and worse and we're looking at a spring that might bring insolvency to bank of america that might roll out indictments from eric schneiderman xin best occasion that might see greece pull out
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of the euro and the devaluation of that currency and its reverberations on the dollar a lot is at stake this spring of course you know israel might bomb iran and throw the whole commodities market into chaos so as conditions get crazier and crazier the people will try to mean as milton friedman said that when things changes when there's a crisis in the way that they change just described by the ideas lying around so if occupy wall street is an idea that's lying around it is an accessible alternative to more capitalism which is the response that we gave the bailouts and fall of two thousand and eight i think you could probably see some really big change but it won't be easy as the cops showed a lot i would argue that that wasn't capitalism that was that was something else but but and not to not to be defending capitalism but any right to it in this conversation sometime we have a lot more time thanks so much for being with us. here as always we'll be keeping close tabs on the occupy wall street movement as the ninety nine percent work to take back this country from the banks that were ripping us off. after the break on
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july twelfth internet providers will begin putting in place a new anti-piracy plan writing down on bandwidth and restricting access to popular websites is this the beginning of the corporate lockdown of the internet. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old so if you told the truth. it sets in and i am and will get a friend that i love proud because he is that. he
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was kind of the jester. i'm very proud of the world without you see it's played. the lead. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly sleep you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.
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in screwed news the largest online protest in the history of the internet they have the railed radical anti-piracy legislation soap and hype of bills earlier this year but major entertainment corporations like the recording industry association of america the motion picture association of america are still coming after you with
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the help of internet service providers like comcast rising on a t.n.t. tabs are now being kept on people who are sharing copyrighted material online and on july twelfth internet providers will begin putting into place a new anti-piracy plan warning internet users that they can face penalties of up to one hundred fifty thousand dollars per file if they continue to file share. providers will begin cutting down or eliminating altogether bandwidth for so-called offenders until said offender agrees to take for example an education course on piracy providers may also restrict access to only major websites like google and facebook and most disturbingly providers may share your information with other internet providers to effectively create a blacklist of people who won't be allowed to sign in on line so this is the corporate lockdown of the internet that we've all feared here to answer that is david seltzer attorney specializing in cyber crimes and marc blood's turning specialized in intellectual property rights copyrights and patents welcome to both
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of you griffin very to have you believe me david let me start with you what is this this crackdown that's coming and you know how is this initiated and how is it probably going to play out. how it's going to play out is anyone's game but there are pros and cons to every situation it was initiated by the way to stop the crackdown and all the illegal downloads i've represented so when people get subpoenas and notices in our john doe's lawsuits because they're downloading illegal music or illegal video files and they've just had enough and they're trying to stop it whether this is the answer i don't know but ultimately comes in most of those cases is small amounts small amount of space settlements and the case goes away and get your name removed from the lawsuit but the end of the day there is some positive to this legislation and i think i'm a first hand example of why just recently i had my network hacked at my house and i received notice that someone's been downloading illegal material from my house how do i not receive that notice my network would have been wide open and i would have been for the world to use my signal to compete continue to commit crimes now i'm
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not concerned about a simple are i a claim no but given what i do in my defense i don't like having an open wireless network because given what i know anybody can use my network to commit a criminal act so there are pros and cons to everything well that's that's that's also a good argument for a thirty five dollars piece of software that tells you you know how many people are on your network. so recognize her that you need to have already made this a requirement coming in your face you know sending certain you legal documents. and when there are those i wasn't available i was also people and people are sharing your network it's something that keeps you on your toes now i don't have a problem with it i don't have a problem with the notice i have no problem with this legislation i don't think it goes beyond the invasion of privacy everybody's claim about ok mark. patton copyright laws the there's a there's a ted talk that's gone viral i forget the guy's name but he's talking about how you know when they first came up with the two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine it was during the era of walkmans and it was bands you know the sony walkman and you could have eight songs on there one album maybe ten songs one hundred fifty thousand
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dollars each you know want to have a million bucks that you could pirate on a walkman now you could have literally a billion dollars in theory worth of music and i pop on an i pod or you know some similar device on your phone is a. i haven't the copyright laws and the penalties and we're going to have these the copyrights are held just gone nuts in large part in response to pressure from disney wants to protect the mouse and the the movie picture industry on them and the music industry. certainly does a case where the punishment does not fit the crime but you can download a song for ninety nine cents ursus being called unbolt lee downloading a particular. we have to pay a two hundred fifty billion dollars. on both of them go it is certainly a case where the kept technology firms jefferson mark
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aggressively argued the patent trademark for eyes which didn't exist and you know in the early days it was a couple years and when before we pass them all the constitution has congress the the right the ability to do it that they should a not existed or b. if they did exist they should last for warmer than three years because there's no such thing as an invention of the blue every invention is built on something that preceded it and arguably everything is copyrighted you know is an intellectual invention a creative invention it's built on something that preceded it how easy is there any debate in legal circles about dialing back the length that the patent laws are being used by or pharmaceutical companies for example jack or profits or the copyright laws are being used by you know disney and others. well certainly the copyright laws have continually been extended in fact the last extension was nine hundred ninety eight to protect. willy to preserve that kind of the right through
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the year two thousand and twenty three now back we may see another copyright term extension in twenty twenty three patent laws it's twenty years from the date of hiring unfortunately we also have to keep them out of were several international treaties that were signatories to the current convention for the copyright law which requires a fifty year minimum term for certain copyrighted works and then also the. p.c.t. there is cooperation treaty for patents but not a lot of. buzz as for is reducing a patent or i believe right now the debates really centered on a horse ability whether or not the crown fits the punishment and whether or not we are still in sin abides the creation of intellectual property with our current system and we just have the american have been static which change the system from first to and into first to file in order to become more in line with the
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international community and certainly be so hype of the stop online privacy act and also that we protect. you know all the. negative it was the pose to actually seen. over the past several months those are mechanisms that tried to protect this industry is very well the industry of copyrighted subject matter movies and music and in order to it were to continue encouraging this innovation and software i would identify bill gates as probably a major recipient of government wealth or in the united states has billions of his only copyright laws. i'm not. or david excuse me the enforcement act that's coming along here on july twelfth are they going to go after people who are using file sharing protocols like the torrents of the old napster kind of programs or are they
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going to be monitoring download activity for people who are using it is sort of the web sites file sharing websites. we have this guy was busted you know just recently running a website or even usenet which is actually coming through what are they going to do it. i don't know what specifically they're going to be doing but i would imagine they're going to be monitoring all of them it's in their benefit to monitor all of them and again i don't really understand why the world is up in arms for protection of copyrighted material in the sense that we allow this information to be copyright and we as a society allow these laws to be in place we don't you know we don't challenge them in legislation at the end of the day and we're basically upset that we're trying to allow them to be enforced on the companies are losing money now i understand these are big corporate companies and all wants to cry of cry over spilt milk for a big corporate government couple of bucks but then the day a law is a law you know we submit and we succumb to the laws when we when we get
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a driver's license so when you surf the web you know there's you're going to surf the web it has to comply with the law there's also the question of the practicality of it and the and the. you know whether this is actually protecting these companies for example i do a three hour radio show have been for nine years it's copyrighted we sell podcasts so theoretically if somebody is stealing those and giving them away it's cutting into my revenues and it's not an insignificant amount of revenue what we've found the there's a bunch of bit torrent sites out there that are giving away or or podcasts and surprise surprise a lot of people who have been downloading them off torrent sites eventually subscribe i think frankly are making money because people are giving them away so you know and that's quite possible quite quite will be in order to your benefit that you eventually are making money because it has downloads but not everything is the case most of the people you know the d.m.c.a. claims that we get in the claims that i defend you know people are losing money and they don't see it that way but again every case is different that's why there's
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really no right answer at the end the day the real question is going to be is how is this in force are they going to start shutting down people's household ip addresses because they're going to diminish their bandwidth to a point where they can't surf the web or because they have to take some online course now realistically what are they going learn from some online course it's diversion for dummies or it's a slap on the wrist or you know whether they have to sit there and click a mouse for. more hours and say look i completed the course here's my fifth take in my internet back what are they gonna learn while the next time what's the penalty going to be and yes there's this blacklist going to create a situation where someone eventually will never get internet service no that's ridiculous in this day and age i'm guessing it's going to be more public shaming but we'll see. marc your thoughts as an attorney and on this piece of legislation and where this is going. to do gree with that this isn't the cheese where you go after the little fish and the individual. teenagers that are downloading blowfly and their parents and pewters certainly when you look at the
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ability to protect. content owners in lords copyright infringer years individuals and companies that have a little search widespread copyright infringement this is a step in the right direction for those for those companies for companies like the thing that is going to put the torrent business out of business very quickly while they are at it without question stress too but i think but i think i think given the world depending on what media or media you're talking about what's downloaded on the torrent system whether it's child pornography or music some people hope the torrent system goes out of business ok great david mark thank you both for being with us. you can appreciate it the real issue here in my opinion is one of corporate welfare corporations and what legislation to protect their patents and copyrights in ways that in my opinion are absurdly long and i am a beneficiary of copyright laws there long enough to wildly inflate their profits
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and with absurdly severe penalties one hundred fifty thousand dollars penalty progress i pod could have it's apparently billions as i noted of dollars with a bootleg music or video on it is it really worth billions of course the pharmaceutical companies are doing the same thing with drug patents using them to wildly unfaithful inflate their profits at the expense of the rest of us i believe it's time to back these corporations down and return to some sanity in a copyright that was. crazy alert to much santorum rick santorum is turned off by homosexuality as one of the most outspoken republican candidates on the issue and now it's safe to say gay men everywhere are just as turned off by last week santorum was in puerto rico campaigning before the border puerto rico primary there a few hours to kill in between campaign stops he decided to take his shirt off and
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lounge on a beach in his hotel just happened to be taking in some sun when an gay cruise ship passed by one of the men in the crew snapped a picture of santorum which quickly went viral after being posted to the internet this prompted santorum to apologize for his less than flattering appearance we took about an hour to us it out by the pool gets a few raises so he gets a proper i feel got me in and i know i probably still took fifteen twenty pounds but i'm working out i apologize to all of these because i'm sure it's not a pretty sight i think it's safe to assume the men on the cruise saying things like . after the break the activist group dogs against romney has been making a lot of noise in the news over the last week we had any effect on the general election or the barking up the wrong tree.
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