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the. top stories this hour in our t.v. un security council has passed a statement calling for a cease fire in syria and the opening of humanitarian corridors the move into the us is a peace plan by u.n. arab league special envoy to syria kofi annan who negotiated in person with president assad. french police are still laying siege of the home of a man suspected of killing seven people earlier this month in the city of toulouse france his top prosecutor says the government may surrender tonight. and warnings of oil shortages will lead to skyrocketing prices as tensions in the middle east put iranian crude supplies in jeopardy threatening to destabilize the world economy . what about another summary for you in. thirty minutes from now in the meantime on
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the on the show with all the latest from washington stay with us for that here on nazi. welcome to the lone show where we get the real headlines with none of them are safe from live in washington d.c. doubts and i are going to take a look at the results of a war again from the pentagon played out if israel were to attack iranian nuclear facilities and the prediction is that the u.s. will inevitably become embroiled in a conflict then supreme court heard arguments today in two cases that are pushing to change the way that we treat juvenile offenders who have been convicted of homicide is a really the kind of country that we want to be where we lock up young people for life with no second chance and ben bernanke he gave a first of what will be a series of college lectures given by the federal reserve chairman so what do you make of what he said and is getting young people on his side the only way of
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changing the fed's poor reputation we're going to all that and more for tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to move. so today is according to those watching the horse raise that is the g.o.p. presidential campaign trail a critical day and the mainstream media due to fully follow through on its wall to wall coverage of voting in illinois patriotic music playing in the background and ott. the others in illinois are the polls right now but at the end of the day will they are providing more clarity to the republican race for president critical data for republican presidential hopefuls all polls are now open in illinois fifty four delegates on the line today romney and rick santorum candidates with their fair share of stumbles trying to right the ship in the latest state along the primary role loaded with twists and turns all eyes are on the edge again voters are going
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to the polls to choose a g.o.p. presidential candidate fifty four delegates at stake no winner take all here they're like it's if you got proportionally at stake today fifty four illinois sixty nine delegates for change form needs a victory somewhere that proves you could win a quote an away game mitt romney and rick santorum looking for a big winner former massachusetts governor is spending the day in chicago with ron to use illinois the backdrop for a big economic speech he's campaigned in springfield in peoria and talk about jobs and the economy it is still an unemployment rate above the national average so that nine point four percent. arcelor something i'd like to point out today regarding the way the different candidates are treated share the mainstream media hasn't given ron paul very much attention all along the way but these days they act like he completely doesn't exist so it might not be all that surprising the recent op ed that he wrote has also gone by without any attention paid to it you might say well
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so what if they're not bad people can read it it's not cable television is job to bring it up but the thing is when mitt romney has written op ed in the past they were all over it all over it despite the fact that it was recent and washington post was full of a lot right he called president obama the most feckless president since carter when it comes to his policy on iran and then he went on spreading the theory claiming outright that iran is racing to build a nuclear bomb and he said that despite the fact that assessments by our own intelligence agencies say there is no proof to definitively say that and of life get plenty of air time. iran hauls off and on the other hand speaks a much needed truth he looked at attorney general eric holder's recent speech where he attempted to explain why this administration thinks that it can legally kill u.s. citizens abroad with no due process after noting the irony but what he called the perhaps the appropriate location of the speech which was given to law school all said that history will likely record this as a turning point and he pointed out of this administration but arguing that the president himself embodies due process of i mean that they believe that the
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president himself is the judge the jury and the executioner and all certainly is not a first definitely not the only one to say that you heard me say that all the time but it's a point that can't be repeated enough it's one of the most dangerous moves the biggest kick to the constitution that we have ever seen him but also makes an interesting comparison he says that it's particularly bizarre to hear the logic of this administration claiming the right to target its citizens and we justified our attacks against iraq and libya because their leaders supposedly were targeting their own citizens. now clearly brock obama has not done what saddam was saying or moammar gadhafi did to their people but he said illegal president they could one day be used as justification to go down that path and i don't believe that americans would ever stand for it but i hope they wake up sooner rather than later also remind us what it is that real due process is supposed to mean the judicial review a fair trial those things are all strengths not weaknesses of our system and we have this process in place to guarantee the fundamental right to be considered
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innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and that is after all one of the things that makes america special right is fundamental rights and protections these are things to be proud of things to be protected and maintained not just dismantled over a fear of terrorism the lastly paul made a really interesting point he said he's encouraged by what appears to be the beginning of a backlash against the administration claiming this power and sad thing is that he pointed to laura ingram as his example and so this is where we've seen the worst developments of this whole thing i've left the democrats have fallen silent and it was george w. bush expanding executive powers there was criticism of plenty now that it's their president their own president that's doing it they certainly don't care and so now we only see the right wing complaining because it's a democratic president with his policy in place i mean come on a highly doubt the laura ingraham would be so upset about it if it were public and president keeping americans safe and that school ruined it for us all if we allow ourselves to be consumed by partisan rhetoric if we allow these fundamental values
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to be crushed abused for political gain and not because we all realize the dire consequences of it but the mainstream media they're only helping it along if anybody out there over does exploits the right versus left paradigm and it's definitely that and so issues like this might be assassination of u.s. citizens by their own governments issues like presidential candidates calling attention to this all of that they choose to miss. what would happen if israel were to strike iran's nuclear facilities according to a classified war simulation that was held earlier this month it would lead to a wider regional war and could draw the u.s. could draw in the u.s. only hundreds of americans get in the simulation the us found itself pulled into the conflict after iranian missiles struck a navy warship in the persian gulf killing about two hundred americans and the u.s.
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retaliated by carrying out its own strikes on iranian nuclear facilities and all this is according to officials that are familiar with the results of this two week long war game which was called internal look and he spoke to the new york times and echoes the same warnings that we've been hearing from intelligence military officials that a difference sharply from how israeli officials see it in fact jeffrey goldberg reported from tel aviv that israeli leaders think that iran would probably pretend this attack never happened and try to cover it up and a matter of which hypothetical you look at so we really just be concerned that it's already gotten to this point in the discussion here discussing with mr maki policy director of the national iranian american council well thanks so much for joining us tonight i mean i don't know what do you say the fact that we're already having word games playing out about this in these simulations does that mean that it's kind of reached a point where it seems well like it's getting more real than just hypothetical it certainly reached a dangerous point i think the fact that we're having these war games is actually it's actually really positive because we need to have an honest airing out of what
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war with iran looks like to understand what the options are you know we've had a systematic effort to take options off the table if the diplomacy is not going to work we need to do sanctions that we did sessions so much and are going to work we need to do war now finally we're actually having a conversation about well there is no military solution so maybe we need to go back to square one and figure out what the other options are to actually resolve this conflict instead of to perpetuate it and create this disastrous conflict. throughout the middle east i really haven't had a sketch there because i mean and i know that he has to do this politically but the one thing that the president has constantly say is that all options are on the table he will not hesitate to use military force but this is somewhere down the line and he also you know criticizes people and warns against loose talk of war and so when you think of something like this coming out of the press right of course it's classified simulations it's not official it decided to leak it you know do you think that they're putting out there for a reason to try to calm it all down i don't think this is any coincidence that this came out and this is what every military official that you talk to says about this
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there's you go down the line you can't find anybody who actually has gone to war or who would lead this war who is saying yes this is a good option this is a place that we want to be so i think that this is actually this is this is not a coincidence this is the administration saying well look this is what the military option actually looks like it should be a tremendous incentive and a way to create political space for a diplomatic option which is exactly what we're gearing up for we have talks coming up in a few weeks hopefully the last time that the iranians and the united states actually met at the table there's intense political pressure in washington to kill those talks because we need to go to the sanctions struck by by presenting the military option for what it really is you know this terrible non-solution hopefully that insulates the diplomacy and provide some political incentive in space for those talks to actually go forward let's talk about what the simulation actually resulted it they say that it is very aware to iraq are running excuse me attack iranian
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nuclear facilities that undoubtedly the u.s. would get pulled into it and that's because the way that iran would see it is that israel is doing something the u.s. must be partnering with them that obvious the iranians have said this if we are attacked by israel we're going to consider an attack by the u.s. now some may say the iranians are bluffing they don't want to draw the u.s. into the war that's that's a reasonable point and want to order mean what they really want to have a war on their own soil. you know it may not retaliate at all because they want to avoid it we don't we don't know how they would play this but we know that they would they would exploit it in the way that would best serve their interests and so what a lot of people have said is actually the iranians wouldn't necessarily mind having a military strike that first of all can this is the iranians to expel i. leave the n.p.t. leave the nonproliferation treaty and then go full force and actually do what they haven't decided to do yet which is build a nuclear bomb for a deterrent so that they're not struck again so those are two really bad options
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for us that i think this wasn't a military solution but every military leader who's seen this you know we go in there we strike we delay their program by a couple years and then they actually make a sprint to the ball which is exactly what we don't want to see so then the other the other you get more incentive i guess you could say you know what do you think about this. reporting today that israeli leaders they just think that iran a completely try to cover it up and they use the example of syria when israel bombed syria's nuclear facilities then a neighbor acted like nothing ever happened so nobody else i don't think that first of all this isn't a one off strike this isn't a clean strike you're going to send in two hundred bombers into iran to try to take out those facilities there's a question of even whether the israelis can do that can they actually pull that off . i don't know how you hide something like that that's going to be out there in the open people are going to know what happened and for the iranians i think one of their calculations is going to be we have to save face particularly since this is a this is a strike that will take out the program entirely which is to lay it you want to do
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you need to have a powerful message that this cannot you know you can't attack us and then not expect for there to be consequences because then you get into the cycle of you know then two or three years from now iran reconstitute its program and it's now weaponized and we have to go in again we have to go in again and so for the iranians to sit there with her and that's what they've been saying here they've been saying you know we will retaliate thinking of diplomacy and president obama released a video out there and we have a little clip of it and so i just want to get your take let's let's take a look. because of the actions of the iranian regime an electronic curtain has fallen iran iraq a barrier that stops the free flow of information and ideas into the country and denies the rest of the world the benefit of interacting with the iranian people who have so much to offer i want the iranian people to know that america seeks a dial work to hear your views and understand your aspirations. so this was a happy new year's message it's not the first time that president obama has done
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this but do you think it's more political this time around i mean he was going after iran and saying that you live behind this iron curtain that censorship runs while they're never willing to build a deeper relationship with you as long as you know your country is a responsible actor. you know when he released this he actually it's not just talk it's not just rhetoric and this is really positive he actually took an action today to lift sanctions on internet communication tools for iranians because we talk about this this iron curtain of repression internet repression anywhere on the government undertakes but the reality is because of sanctions the u.s. actually facility helps with silicate that iron curtain we don't allow certain technology to get into the iranian people and so we're inadvertently playing a hand at that so what he did today was actually to say we're going to lift some of those things it's not all of them and there's a lot more work than these be done we're going to start with some of those so that we're not a part of the problem and how about you know speaking of sanctions as well then the
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state department said that they decided to exclude it number i think it was ten european nations from sanctions because they want to applaud them if they if they're doing a good job of trying to wean themselves off of iranian oil i mean is that the way to beef things work up because thanks and the thanks and well that's the thing the president didn't want these these new sanctions central bank sanctions you can't do any business with iran but it want that they got a graver where basically of countries are cooperating they don't get sanction it's interesting to note though that there are only china is not on that list india is not on the list and those are important actors there how on your side when it comes down to you know economic warfare with iran so we're going to see where that goes are we going to actually start sanctioning china and india. i guess we're just going to wait and find out and thanks so much for joining us tonight thank you. well if you've been watching the news or our show for that matter for the past several weeks you might think of the decade long war in afghanistan is going up in flames and late february thousands of afghans flooded the streets for days to protest the burning of the koran two u.s.
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soldiers were killed during that backlash and over a dozen afghans died the violence now is just the beginning last week sixteen afghan civilians including women and children were killed in their homes allegedly at the hands of a single u.s. soldier running out of months of horrifying news from the war one single month but according to general john allen the commander of nato troops out again a stand testified to congress today the war is going ok or is quote on track as he described it now well he said the last couple months have been trying he gave absolutely no sign that the u.s. is planning on speeding up a planned withdrawal date rough gana standard twenty fourteen we should worry millions of americans according to a gallup poll conducted last week fifty percent of americans now think of us should speed up their timetable of withdrawal once again public opinion be damned we've got a losing war to fight but it's not just the will of the american people it's routinely being ignored our military leaders know it to and for years our people and their government vigorously protested nitrates we've spoken about the subject many times
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of her on the show it's a practice which has been widely deplored by the locals cherished by military officials who try to claim that as one of their best tools to fight the taliban now u.s. officials have fought for those rights night raids tooth and nail of the karzai government has made them essential condition as part of the strategic with us and so the aftermath of the killing of sixteen civilians it looks like the u.s. might be ready to make a concession that's according to top military officials that have said that they might be ready for a change and a change which is not finalized in any way with subject the raids to afghan state law according to karzai that means applying for a warrant so obeying the laws of another country when they're killing their civilians what a novel idea and it certainly is if you're the us military so all the negotiation. the long awaited and uncheck night raids will have to wait for the actual details of this deal because general allen's testimony is any indication the pentagon will continue to fight for the status quo just by all evidence but it simply isn't working. out so far for is
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a break even but when we come back the surge by the supreme court today one sided whether or not the u.s. remains one of only two nations in the world that sentences children for life without parole and speak what happened to post supreme court correspondent mike sacks this week. culture is the same or different if you choose it as the person on the mark as the syrian civil war grinds on calls for an outside military intervention growing louder and louder while at the same time there is a. guitar sometimes you see a story and it seems so poorly you think you understand it and then a limp something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm target market is a big picture. this
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week we've suddenly seen the mainstream media pick up on a case then calculate many of the problems with justice today's america i was a florida teen gunned down by a neighborhood watch volunteer carrying nothing but a bag of skittles federal prosecutors and the f.b.i. both investigating the shooting death of seventeen year old trayvon martin the f.b.i. and justice department are investigating the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager in florida by a neighborhood watch captain growing outrage over the killing of an unarmed florida teenager the f.b.i. and the justice department are now beginning an investigation of this man george zimmerman says he was forced to shoot martin in self-defense during a confrontation protester st john's family say he was targeted because of his race
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. the case of trayvon martin it struck an emotional chord many americans and it's unfortunate that it's stories like these that make us take a look at how justice is applied but what about when it's a juvenile who's not the victim but the killer we also find more room to forgive you willing to grant a second chance to someone it's still a child so the supreme court heard oral arguments in two cases miller versus alabama and jackson versus hops each of which deal with a fourteen year old was sentenced to life in prison without parole i currently there are about twenty five hundred human ells in the us that have been sentenced this way despite their logical science psychological evidence that proves that young people have more capacity to change they're not fully developed so which way did it sound like the court was going today what you're discussing with me is mike sacks supreme court correspondent for the huffington post i thank so much for joining us tonight would be quickly can you just give us a few details about these two cases today right so the cases emerge out of the courts of alabama and arkansas both of which have mandatory life without parole
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sentence and schemes for any capital murder for those below the age of majority so with with with the miller case we had a boy who had a pretty. this crime here in a friend beat it with a baseball bat a neighbor a fifty two year old neighbor in his trailer and then set the trailer on fire but we got a guy the other case the jackson case coming out of coming out of arkansas it concerns a boy who was just an accessory to an attempted robbery and in that robbery the video clerk did not have the money that they wanted so one of the boys who was doing the robbery shot the woman in the face but not. the actual triggerman action here yeah that's the part that's crazy to me it's all because of these mandatory sentences and also because felony murder is a long cold war crime you know it's wrong and it's part of the american common law where if you are if you commit a felony and proceed in pursuit of a murder then you will also be tried for that murder but i think
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a supreme court has seemed to be. changing things a little bit right in recent years and you thousand and five they rule that you cannot be sentenced to death in two thousand and ten they roll their cases of not homicide you can't be sentenced to life in prison without parole and so judging just by their track record does it seem like they would have to rule the same thing here you know it doesn't this case is sort of that middle ground because what you have is death is different in two thousand five cases they said well then you can fall back on life without parole that's that at least give you some hope for growth maybe and then in two thousand and ten they said well if you don't commit a murder and if you're under seven under eighteen you shouldn't be so it's life without parole in between those two cases is what happens when you are given i'll under the age of eighteen who commits a murder but are they using i mean i know that you know in some of the arguments in the past you they've used some of the studies that show that young people have the capacity to change that rehabilitation should be an option that you know your frontal lobes haven't fully developed and so you see things differently and we have
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i just don't understand. you know if they use that logic in the past why wouldn't have i here because you have a supreme court attention majority that is very skittish to say that someone who murders another person. shouldn't get life without parole they look more at the crime as opposed to the person now the lawyer for the two teenagers who were at the court today is bryan stevenson he's with the equal justice initiative and he's a big juvenile justice reformer he went forward with this is that with the statistics you cited and said these are these kids they're not capable of fully understanding the ramifications of what they're doing and we have lots of this is there's lots of social science about this and if you commit these murders we should be we should not hold them accountable for the rest of their lives and ruin all chances of growth or redemption or rehabilitation. yeah i mean i guess i'd always have to say that i you know i agree with him here but you know it's interesting we mentioned that we have the supreme court justice there skittish about this stuff because if you think about it on
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a global scale and i you know i mentioned this to my audience on friday two where one of two countries hasn't signed this convention on the rights of a child so it's i guess in somalia it's still a hand out these sentences and so what is it about you know i think our country our society the way that we try to apply or morally justify these types of punishments i don't know but the supreme court doesn't like your least a majority supreme court always rage against the citing of foreign law in these in these cases and i thought it actually pretty exceptional if you were largely today stevenson did not want to mention our status in the tree and that was a big tell he realized that that might not actually go this time after there was such outcry against justice kennedy the past two cases when he did state for a while to justify his abolishing the death penalty for minors and abolishing role for juvenile don't really really else the way to do things like us that we hate it when we bring out other international laws as examples of how you know one of the ways they in which this could go they just make
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a ruling that you know stop the line at fourteen years old set it going all the way up to eighteen or one of the other options will include a if we're going to look at if we're going to use justice kennedy as a bellwether he seemed particularly eager to. straight down all the state laws that make up for all the sentence in the state so it was up to. you what you're saying is that a jury's would have an option for life without parole but they would have to be there they would be able to get mitigating circumstances like ones age ones one's home upbringing one's mental state in order to decide whether or not to send them to child to life without parole well that's at least a good sign because one of the other things if you look at the statistics in terms of the way that these things are applied i think that black youth are ten times more likely to get these kinds of sentences of life without parole you know and so even if you look at this case that's right now dominating the airwaves and it's good finally it's so sad that it has to be one of these stories that shows how much race still plays
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a role in our justice system but you know in the case of trayvon martin to realize that. you know race is a problem here that they don't want to buy justice they don't even want to go after the guy and you have this course of law in florida but so i mean the idea that you would mandatory. say this without looking at the problems in the system is just crazy to me but i got to start i'm going on a rant about it thanks so much for joining us tonight. are you guys it's time for show and talent and its program and last time we told you about hollywood teaming up with internet service providers to combat piracy i want to govern or try to go after pirates of bills like. there's a burst of interactive isn't so should we expect the same kind of outcry with the july twelfth plan between our and i asked producer pretty soon to send you to find out what you have to say. i'm in the streets of d.c. to tell people in the nation's capital what our viewers had to say on twitter facebook and you tube and see which comments we should keep or delete.
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so we asked our viewers do you think that this will start up a new round of protesting from internet activists like we saw with the stop online privacy act john said a copyright needs to be protected the internet should be like everything else if you want to play it you have to pay so do you think that we should be forced to pay for material online absolutely i do i strongly believe in copyright yeah and protecting you know creative work that people have put a lot of time to put together and she want to keep it or delete it delete that even if they do charge up charges will just find a way around it and someone will oh do you think we should be forced to pay do you want to keep it or delete it. i want to go eat it i mean he does i will point but i mean. you know i mean and i feel like where's the line he wrote in and said you can do all the laws in actions you want but piracy is unstoppable and will only cause
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resentment if it's hunted do you want to keep it or delete it keep it out of like the individual freedom if. i don't think that the government or any company has a right to interfere with what you're doing if you're angry because they're used to doing what they're doing you know downloading stuff on the internet and you know it isn't the same uprising samuel believes that corporations will win over people so he wouldn't be surprised if another sopa was put forward do you want to keep it to lead people to think corporations will win out on this one even if people rightly possibly yes they would while there are a lot of people who put things on line for a or want to get things for free there are a lot of corporations i feel that they own that conscious and want to get paid for it so it sounds to me like there's another battle brewing. in the. all right well thank you for your responses as usual and here's our next question for you earlier in the show we spoke about how differently the mainstream media treats the candidates that are vying for the republican nomination showering time
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analysis on everything that mitt romney says while mostly ignoring ron paul the fact is that romney has been declared the winner of fourteen out of fifteen states depending on the way you count that ron paul has fared much worse so why do you think it is the wrong paul's failed to win our contest you can let us know on facebook twitter and you tube and you know his response just might make it on air. are we taking one more break finally returned and her name he is taking to the internet to communicate directly to the american people to take a stab at what his twitter feed my end up looking like and then does the world economy really comes out of this because and you're right after this break.
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