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blogs are in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture traditional morality tells us to take care of the poor the sick and the elderly all ryan's new budget however does none of that in just a moment i'll tell you another group of americans stand to be screwed over by the conservative vision for america also romney trounces santorum and tennessee takes up arms in the war against science one of those topics and that's the lone liberal rumble and finally conservatives have a new lloyd's of the stronger economy and take over sixteen hundred pennsylvania
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avenue i'll tell you about this nefarious and deadly plan in tonight's do it. you need to know this the backlash against paul ryan's radical budget plan continues a number of faith leaders have come forward to the last ryan's vision for america which forces forty eight million americans to lose their health insurance while giving a three trillion dollars tax cut to the top one percent in america bishop gene robinson of the diocese of new hampshire said about the budget plan the riot ryan budget robs the poor the marginalized and the vulnerable of the safety net so integral to their survival by any measure of civility and regard for one's neighbors it's an immoral disaster ryan's plan also hands medicare over to for profit health insurance c.e.o.'s and makes massive cuts in social security setting
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the stage to give social security's two point six trillion dollar trust fund to wall street banks tears and wonder millionaires and billionaires are reportedly been seen wearing what would paul ryan do where he slots but the elder. leave the poor and the sick aren't the only ones who will feel the wrath of the ryan budget so too will federal workers ryan budget freezes federal worker pay and says it's going to lay off ten percent of the federal workforce is just the latest blow to public sector workers have been demonized by republicans at both the state and federal levels ever since the two thousand and ten midterm elections here's the bigger picture change take a look at this at this chart this just lays the whole thing up this is a change in public sector jobs government jobs the red line is the bush administration said throughout the bush administration he was continually adding government employee jobs which stimulates the economy during the obama administration we've actually been losing government jobs which drags the economy
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down and this is the corporate sector is sometimes called the private sector and again blue is obama red is bush and you can see throughout the throughout the entire bush administration corporate sector didn't really create any jobs at all bush's or excuse me obama is now really moving in a positive direction so obama has less to work with and is having greater success against you know this this general insanity so what do more public sector layoffs mean for working people and for our economy joining me now to discuss this is john gage the president the american federation of government lawyers john welcome thank you so great to have you with us ten percent cut in the federal workforce what would the impact that be on our economy because it's going to mean a lot not only to the economy but to services that people really need just today i was with. expect poetry inspectors who are now going to be cut by workers on the line and that means that they have to look at three chickens a second now. you add that to the border control committee to the v.a.
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the veterans administration social security workers and these cuts are draconian they are huge to the bone we've already been downsizing and been working on the fish and seas throughout the government but when you say you're going to freeze federal pay for another three years you're going to gut their pension forty percent out of their pensions cut ten percent this is dismantlement of vital programs and then in the same breath say that you're going to give a tax cut to the one percent rates really in a box three trillion bucks and take it out of medicare and social security and medicaid. now you know it's it's really staggering the vision for america oh yeah and what astounds me is yesterday morning. morning joe was having this conversation with orion and they were they were all but holding each other kissing i mean you know it was just it's like the media the progressive caucus
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a year ago presented a project that actually would balance the budget within twenty years would have improved and strengthen the social safety net kept our federal workforce in place we raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires and got no mention of the press this budget which has no chance of probably even getting out of its own committee is like wall to wall what's the deal well there's a schizophrenia going on we lost eight million jobs in this recession and it's a very fragile recovery and it's it's just incredible how we're going back to deficit reduction which is going to cost more jobs and we just have to stop big and if we get those jobs back up those eight million jobs back up that will take care of the revenue we can we can deal with our deficit but trying to take care of this step is that which huge cuts like this you know is just going after the jobs we have and and attacking them rather than creating new ones and i think to exactly the wrong thing to do well and government john you were talking about porter
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inspectors bass pretty bad you know three chickens a second but you know there's tens of thousands of americans who get food poisoning every year as it is we need more inspections. and i think i think some of the some of the agencies like to be a you know you'll hear you heard ryan say well obama put on one hundred fifty five thousand federal employees well over fifty thousand were defense workers that ryan was in favor of thirty some thousand would be a workers some social security and some border patrol all of which mr ryan was in favor of but then to come up in a very hypocritical way and say that obama put on one hundred fifty five thousand federal workers is just just just incredible those those positions were desperately needed. we have two wars going on we have just an incredible. stress on the v.a. with our with our men and women coming back and of course the favorite republican well not true of the border patrol and i think i think president obama has done
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a pretty a pretty fair job in keeping the agencies running and i think that's that's where we are right now this budget would would dismantle programs will dismantle this is not about least an abuse this is down to the poor hitting at the v.a. hitting at social security and that's where the you know these guys want to turn so security over to construct a round robin sax to administer it rather than putting his money to be made you know have trillion bucks not present i just i think the american public really has to see that that these government services when you say well that the private sector can do it all that does is bring in the profit motive. taxpayers' money and that you're going to take your fifteen or twenty percent up in profit and do a worse job a bad job not as sort as hard as it would seem at all if you're in the united states so you heard of the countries thanks so much for being with us thank you for really appreciate it john thank you. now let's turn it over to the rubble.
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and it's was that i would resist time for the loan liberal rondell what does mitt romney's big win in illinois mean lies are lies and i mean what how will the paul ryan budget shape the political landscape heading into the two thousand and twelve election and what the heck is the state of tennessee doing trying to bring back to teaching of creationism in public schools here weigh in on all of these issues vince colony's senior online editor of the daily caller and laughlin mark a mark a investigative reporter at the heritage foundation and i guess i got right now you got the right ok. great to have you back thank you a ten percent cut oh that's the sort of that's the wrong one it will start with to begin with what happened last night mitt romney the richest man ever run for president on a major take it the number two behind ross perot minor ticket cleaned up last night
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illinois i mean since you are forty seven thirty five percent he outspent santorum seven to one in the state picked up forty one delegates so is he going to end and then last night of this morning one of his guys went on t.v. and was asked the question you guys know what's coming you know he says the question ok rowdies which are always conservative smack what's going to happen when he hits the general election and he said this. is there a concern that the pressure from santorum and gingrich might force the governor to tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election. well i think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign everything changes it's almost like an etch a sketch you can kind of shake it up and we start all over again. is that light saying this guy genuinely has no principles or values we have to start all over again to hold the senate talking points i kind of worry that that's the conversation that they have inside like the strategy sessions like don't worry guys
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we get through the primary and then we just have the discussion we shape this thing up or in the general meaning of the focus on the things we focus on before it's something that like shocked a lot of republicans today and democrats obviously took two and they said well this is kind of exciting this is the this is obvious like look this is something that you would think that santorum or gingrich is campaign came up with and you know it wasn't either of their campaigns it was one of romney's strategists who was speaking as a strategist who should have said something like that in a closed room as opposed to in front of a national audience it was iraq and it is not true what he said i mean there's a long history i'm frankly in both parties not pandering to the base and then moving to the quote center but i think there's a history of selling your conservative credentials when you're appealing to conservative voters or to liberal voters in the case of a democratic candidate and then selling your moderate or centrist credentials when you're trying to capture that you know those coveted independents in the general so you know i don't know it's probably not the word i would use i would say you emphasize different parts of your platform depending on which voter group you're
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trying to do the things you said this one and that was this one and i think that's right but i think romney's issue as you kind of just pointed out is that romney has to convince people that he's authentic enough just on his conservative principles now the last having a variety of principles that he can express well this is this is this is the thing i'm genuinely curious about you know meeting you guys i'd love to hear what you have to say in the minute half we have left and that is will romney be able to when he starts. tacking to the center will conservatives say to themselves oh well i remember what he said when he was talking just to me and he's just saying this because he has to get elected or will they start thinking you know when he was talking to me he was just saying that because he wanted to get through the primaries which way is you know i think that i first insights i think there's a risk that you know i think voters want to see an authentic candidate they want to see a candidate who sticks by a certain set of principles and you know i know you wouldn't agree with me on this tom but i think the american people appreciate a you know a strong center right position. people appreciate somebody who stands for what he
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stands for well that's right and so i think they agree with him and w. bush experience this i mean by virtue of us presidents right here that in and w. bush for yeah because the early war became so unpopular you know people sort of you know i hate him but at least i know where he stands yet they want somebody whose friends will remember him and one of the factors that's not being considered in this conversation is that barack obama will be in the general election and conservative voters are going to come out to vote against barack obama depending the out if no matter if any of these three candidates and realistically now if anybody even has a shot maybe santorum and romney one of those two i think i think they're both toast yeah that's probably right it would be nice at least to get past the horse race stuff and maybe start focusing on the real differences between between the platform has been very good as it gets more bor rob coming up after the break. the.
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blog about a girl on the liberal rumble on the panel tonight vince colonies of the daily caller and laughlin mark a with the heritage foundation let's get back to it guys paul ryan has rolled out his budget and what a doozy he you know let's let's give a two and a half to three trillion dollar tax cut to millionaires and billionaires and cut that amount out of medicare and social security and medicaid and programs for the poor and programs the middle class and cut what belgrade's i just you know roll back obama all those stuff i mean how do you think when that the republicans can ever win on a platform of abyss or raiding the middle class making it harder for his go to college but they can win because. i mean when you look at what the alternative is
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it's essentially the status quo at least when it comes to entitlement reply keep medicare in place and keep social security and medicare no waste when the chief actuary says it could be insolvent in soon as twenty sixteen and that's something for drug that's something that the treasury secretary timothy geitner acknowledged a recent hearing on the hill he said we know these programs are not so great really got to know you and i started to negotiate and we said we don't have a plan to fix it but we know we don't like yours is what it was well because you are going to have an uphill battle in some of the say on this i mean you mentioned how do you win but that's not only with the measure it is about at least according to ryan ryan's plan is to actually like kind of correct the country so that it take a little bit more nuance to sell the program and democrats are going to help design a look inside his eyes you're going to hear and i literally want us republicans on the budget committee tragically the republicans in the budget committee who are going along with us appear to not go along with it because it doesn't cut enough and it wasn't good enough tax breaks to millionaires and you have to is there is there any is there any silver lining for you in that you see that he's attempting
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to close tax loopholes to i mean that's something that well has bipartisan support and paul ryan has it in his plan his plan to bring down corporate taxes you mentioned that but it was not mentioned often a democrat the democratic talking points to not to mention the fact that tax whole tax loopholes are being cut as well so the idea is if you cut tax loopholes you can bring down tax credits actually rules on the oil industry the coal industry the natural gas industry or the nuclear industry they're all maintaining massive government subsidies he wants to cut the tax loopholes for the solar industry as well the subsidies you're referring to for oil and gas companies these are tax breaks that exist for big factory companies not all of them my point is. just to order or just for general electric let's say because they didn't pay the taxes last year and you're going to see companies like filed a nine foot high tax rate and that's exactly the system that he's looking to get rid of and i think that's i think what they're trying to point out that two point five three trillion well that you cited right at the outset doesn't take into account. the fact that the base is being brought so you know that it was in other
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words more poor people were having to pay for it no no we're talking about corporations that were i mean the reason that the tax revenue federal tax revenue has never been more than twenty one percent of g.d.p. even with the top tax rate was up to ninety percent is that inevitably the wealthy and these large corporations find ways the loopholes they find to actually if you if you go back and look there in the eisenhower administration during the kennedy administration during the johnson and nixon administrations to john during that period time basically read until the next administration the total of federal income so the receipt of tax dollars about thirty five percent of it was a kind of hurt by corporate taxes now it's about eight percent between eight eleven percent and here we took a big hit because the recession and you know this is just corporations buying you know just leisure's and there's an incentive obviously to get it back to a point i was that corporations are buying our general wyatt revenue from corporations providing tax revenue by actually welcoming companies back into the
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united states by virtue of a lower tax rate that is accommodating to those companies doing bills i don't know if what you're talking about is saying to apple it's. hundreds of billions or you know it's not hundreds of billions it's worth forty two billion fifty four billion something like that in offshore money yeah bring that money back on a we'll give you a tax holiday whereas if they had made that money in the united states they certainly made it selling in the united states if they had made that money employing people you know that they would pay taxes on the fact that that money comes back into the american economy even if that money itself is not taxed creates more economic activity is there only if it's apple will probably build another factory in china and this isn't a this isn't just a tax game this is a wealth game i mean clearly if the economy creates wealth tax revenue comes in even if the rates are lower and that's that's not something that's obviously the economy with these bizarre attacks or these bizarre trade laws it's not creating wealth you can you know adam smith one on one you know you create wealth when you take a tree limb and you carve it into an accidental only manufacturing radar data. ashura is now running for senate as well as addressing trade problems for you not now well
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some of them are right this rest of the bargain is they have lost their talking about i would have my policy proposal and you would have your ideal policy proposal but what needs to be looked at is what's on it so people really this is what paul ryan is proposing is cuts to the social safety net and tax cuts for the very very rich and it's just like saying well you're going to it's also terrorism it's not just its cuts for the very very rich i mean the it's two rates ten percent of twenty five percent to ten percent is significantly lower than even what the bottom income tax bracket is right now it's moving toward a flat tax which is even more regressive it's going to get even more people in the middle of the bottom and it's dropping the top tax rate for millionaires and billionaires and my question is how can the republican party win when their their head cheerleader is out there saying we're the party of the rich because there's an appetite for reform republicans have that have that in that there's the tea party movement which is now actually transitioned into somewhat of a political movement they probably will get behind whatever whoever the inevitable
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republican candidate is has an appetite for this country getting on the right track already known and his best of all is revealing indeed armies mouth mouthpiece and you get this multimillionaire bed and watch it and then vote for holding him title mitt so what do you when you're talking about reforming ireland so the idea of cutting medicaid medicare social security when you say it ends these programs as we know it you haven't used that term but it's something that's commonly used by progressive liberals to lampoon republicans or the truth is it's ending yes our program the way it's constructed has led to the greatest contributor to the debt obviously if something was the norm and the roses bush administration put a poison pill into it saying that medicare can't i don't. even came eyes wandered off and zillion dollar but your original question can be with you on this you know i think it's going it's a very interesting question and i think we're going to find out and this is what congressman ryan says is you know i'm putting this option out there the american people can choose which kept it going to end. but why not just cuts to medicaid
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medicare part of that is repealing parts of obamacare it's not just simply the current system i agree and which is me but you know by ok so according to a new study out of stockholm environmental institute increasing greenhouse gases we're going to be stuck with a bill or an annual cost of two trillion bucks and over over the course of the next century as warmer as the oceans warmer we are acidification rising sea levels were storms and meanwhile we're giving tens of billions of dollars every year in subsidies to oil coal and gas industries here in the united states and nuclear as well and now in tennessee they're passing large they just passed this legislation that forces school teachers to teach their kids in science classes that there's a controversy about whether if they have to put on it they're not allowed to be punished for allowing that conversation to be a part of the classroom actually i don't have the language of the legislation here but i did have it on my radio show today and i read it on the air and it says because there is a controversy you will teach that there is
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a controversy and when you teach these issues you will use the word controversy and there's no controversy scientists are you know. the world other than the scientists who are being paid for by the koch brothers or exxon mobil scientists say you know anthropogenic human made global warming is happening it's a problem and it has a potential to it is that you're right there is no controversy that humans emit carbon that carbon is a greenhouse gas that greenhouse gases put the issue is to what degree does it one look at the menu i know it's there's no controversy about whether the world was created six thousand years ago and in tennessee also laws that taught that there's a controversy about whether humans have been on the earth has existed for more than sixty five hundred years. so that means i get it but i think you guys want to know this one science makes my head explode you know but what is true is that you do have parents who by proxy these schools are meant to be educational institutions from parents who are trying to go their job. and one of things they can reasonably
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expect is that the conversations that they have a home by the way this is not like some small like you know natural medicine that involves you know nothing else just spiritual medicine whatever this is like you know a sizable majority of people actually believe and i think that this is a reasonable part of the classroom discussion to think big god can be a part of the equation now the extent to which there's disagreement in religious can be so you're you're if you're saying that we should destroy the ability of the kids in tennessee to get into a decent college outside of maybe tennessee because they've got their science background as. you know upside down there no i mean that's that's up to these parents and these kids in these institutions this is the state legislature forcing it on these parents and kids ready you know the day i got conservatives were in favor of local control what happened to school board local school boards making the schools i know conservatives are in favor of and it is it is completely dictating educational programs to parents who otherwise wouldn't want that to be dictated to them. but being told what their kids must learn i mean parents want to be able to
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educate their children and then there are deeply no bluing how can you do that how can you defend the tennessee legislature forcing what must be tried by the way you have to read me the legislation and send it to me the idea that they have to use the words controversy has like that you do they don't they don't sound like conservative principles i mean that's that to me sounds a little bit afield but the idea is that teachers shouldn't be punished for saying something about that there are controversies and it's not the first i thought it was there but that's the best one my point is that that's how it gets out yeah you know. i don't think that the state at the level of the state or the federal government for that matter should be dictating even one of these things and i also think there's a risk that you know every person who claims to have a valid theory or whatever scientific issue would is i don't think is deceiving you let's let's let's teach the line spaghetti monster it's necessary get it must be a popular very popular right you know more pirates less global warming right it's it if you can prove it ok some are blaming rick santorum is loss in illinois this
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week on a series of gaffes by his campaign this one on santorum was photographed topless in puerto rico by a gig cruise passing by unfortunately for santorum looking into my crystal ball i see a series of importuned photo ops and rick's future so which one will hurt his chances to be president most a a photo leaked showing santorum getting high with he is bill maher or be a photo showing santorum marching with we in the next san francisco gay pride parade or see a photo showing where santorum in a bar enjoying libations with another other than the world's most evil man mahmoud ahmadinejad so why do you think i probably a picture of rick santorum googling themselves if. you don't do what i had to do i said if i had. a picture of rick santorum on mitt romney's car roof on the way up. if you guys are off i would say what a photo lisa rix of six santorum actually using
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