tv [untitled] March 22, 2012 1:30am-2:00am EDT
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nine thirty am in moscow these iraqi headlines the u.n. edges closer to a syrian peace plan to make both sides lay down their arms while u.s. threatens more pressure on the regime if it doesn't comply opposition leaders admit that some foreign states are sending weapons and support for the rebels. new spending plan dubbed the bankers budget with motorists and the elderly taking it head high can fuel prices will deal a heavy blow to small businesses who are driving a struggling economy gunfire and explosions heard in the french city of toulouse where police are laying siege to house for a suspected killer at
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a jewish school is holed up for a second day the man brings out all the links and the start of a we are. up next r.t. puts the president of bellers under the spotlight in an exclusive interview alexander lukashenko defends the execution of two men found guilty of the deadly metro bombings in minsk despite international concerns. a welcome to the internship on that i'll be novel today my guest is aleksandr will question. the leaders of the eurasian economic community have gathered in moscow this week to discuss further integration on the post soviet space one of them was the worst alexander lukashenko president of. one of the most famous but
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controversial leaders of the lot of the work today he's here on spotlight to discuss the latest news coming from then some other items as well president of girls. the latest news coming from brother who's focuses on two major topics the first and most controversial is the recent days accused of two metro bombers fifteen people were killed and over two hundred wounded in a terrorist attack on the belorussian capital subway last april two men who were convicted and put to death but some human rights activists said the trial was unfair the second big topic is the eurasian economic community and some it has just finished in moscow russia plans further integration within the group but bellerose is reportedly getting cold feet about the process. hello mr the shinku thinking for joining us and welcome to spotlight hello mr lucas
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same code used to put me stories with a personal question and this is not the first time i have injury. fortunately even though yes fortunately yeah what amazes me and this is not the first time i've seen it with given is how nice and friendly everybody on your team is from top ranking officials to bodyguards. is this just a general rule you have established or something else. i mean we just had a discussion on the subject with some of the other guys here and now i want to ask you the same question. it's a bill or russian mindset combined with discipline in order to put it after all we are the last to dealership in europe it's no laughing matter. but that it is a matter of discipline and it's not because of a special relationship no xander it is to really develop russian mindset we're always eager to help everybody we're always willing to be hospitable and helpful
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and to share whatever we have with others at least some of what we have this is something in our blood you mentioned dictatorship will come to that later we're right no could we start with ice hockey even though you're personally involved in this you're an avid hockey fan and you have a lot of your time to hockey in the endemic myths performance in the cage has been a very poor it plus today nima moscow have you seen my support so i am happy but at the same time i feel sorry for your team why did that happen and what are your prospects i really don't know why you mentioned me at the beginning because i don't play for it's an enemy that i play for them they might one. day i'm joking the three hours true but the first objective list of this is only the third year our team has been playing at such a high level. and it is the second time we've made it into the playoffs. this is not that it's all going to go with the second if that if we expect you to
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go much further this year but i think the managers of our team made some mistakes but when planning the season come on they reached peak form during the first half of the season were going to be defeated you know in the moscow twice and it won many other occasions and we are ranked first in our conference but then we lost momentum in the playoffs because you can't possibly steenie your thought form throughout the season. what about the world cup with the forget that despite any was lost belarus is still in the elite a world hockey bet you have any surprises in the works for the world cup. well i don't think there should be any surprises there although surprises are inherent in sports we can happen any time you go over we're not planning any surprises deliberately with the they're already planning to leave the illegal world hockey. the two thousand and fourteen world cup will be hosted in delhi where the numerous
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actually both some plans to take the right to host the championship away from the other and you to another country join with us what do you think of those rumors that is there any substance behind them were they just gossip. i heard that saw it's nothing more than talk this is a purely political process that has nothing to do with sports if it happens it will be a blow to their reputation of the hockey federation of. the world sports in general post after all bill rose has deserved and earned this world championships with the and we have done a great deal in preparations for i'm sure that if this championships in minsk takes place all journalists will say that they saw nothing like that before that you said we have been very hospitable and friendly during this meeting the entire country is going to be just as hospitable and friendly when hosting the hockey championships
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so there are some surprises in the pipeline if you that. well this is where god tells us to do our best where you believe or. well just like you probably. will not kristen's with the church as they say show a similar large increase and anyway there is always something we believe to some people it is god however i think that people shouldn't be overly demonstrative about their beliefs i tend to think very badly of people who used to be a farden e.c.c. yesterday and now they're holding candles intruders or standing on their knees praying in public everyone has he's god if not in court then in mind well you know they can agree with you to some extent on the one hand communication with god is something very personal on the other hand though identify anyone so with a certain confession is very important for a political figure well if i were to identify myself in some confession and of
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course some an orthodox christian. this is a christian if we may get back to the matter of politics please recently two men were executed in delhi who's been deemed guilty of carrying out terrorist attacks as well as some other things you want to play with but i see your opinion and ask you to postpone the execution in exchange be a corn improved status probably diplomatic relations with lots of other concessions the. correction. that you put up over the european union never asked me to post on the execution of those people sick they have always demanded that we abolish capital punishment no any of that with this same these specifically called suspended punishment if you know they didn't. know nothing of the sort to go to war when you would is a suspension the sentence was handed down last fall in september or another member i can't recall the exact on several months have passed since it was absolutely legitimate they supposedly question was not about the procedure according to media
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reports from europe offered you kind of a political deal you nearly the execution and instead what you get this big political. sessions from the west it seemed to settle politicians such as yourself only think it would have taken the bait but you refused to accept the deal why. first and foremost they never offered me something like that so they didn't go there was no talk of political concessions in exchange for a stay of execution but even if they did offer it would still be the way it is now because politics and penalties are not linked to talk if the west makes some political concessions it means we should meet them halfway through the well here we are talking about a criminal case plain and simple the man committed an outrageous crime and there is no reason whatsoever to show clemency yet it would be the same in russia and in other countries so colditz and koran do not compare and i would like to repeat it
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once again i did not get such an offer between you as one of the powerful politicians in you with this kind of political maneuvering that was in no interest . it was against your principles was it that's not acceptable for me simply unacceptable. that fine i will then put the question differently being a christian that what do you feel in your heart when you give the order to execute the convict but to go. but you know it's not my job to give such an order you have certain for sutures set forth by the law i just didn't. believe that after that it all went to the next stage. where you feelings when you had their destiny in your hands when you had the chance to pardon them alexander it wasn't the first time i had to do that within the seventeen or eighteen years of my presidency. that's a burden across a cheery agree to bury when you become head of state. they often ask me what's the
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most difficult thing for you and i mentioned it once on record that it's always such a pain for me to sign a decree not to grant poured out of all those sentenced to the death penalty i only pardoned one person. but. i'm sure that both in delusion russia i'll tell you what i actually felt. these were mixed feelings for me too was yet another tragedy in my life but above all i felt sympathy for the parents of those people. could not help unfortunately. i think people in russia and i would go as far as to say that the majority of russians would support executing people convicted for such crimes i think you must realize that the death penalty denies the judge the right to err. i think you'll agree that any year in five or ten years of evidence may surface. new member with
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the mother of one of the boys said i will not be able to prove anything. and this could be the case that you know history won't be able to put everything in its place there is only today no tomorrow that's it apart from capital punishment because the list of penalties includes life in prison. yes so if the judicial branch well as the executive branch to be honest york has a shade of adults about the evidence. or if the decision they were about to take. they can always pass a life sentence which could be even more terrible than death were shooting now by far more terrible. the proceedings were asked transparent as possible group the investigation was transparent the team was headed
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by the former chief of the investigative committee and we joined the prosecutor general's office just before the crime took place which means he had no connections here we didn't have to prove anything he's a man of integrity and decency a professional with huge experience or i insisted that he take up the whole process and he came and had it that investigative team also got assistance from the russian f.s.b. security service and these are really mossad. because these release yes these rail a security service and interpol they never said there was anything wrong they didn't have any suspicions i also ordered the investigative team to film and already a record holder questioning sessions and since the moment these men were arrested that much to their surprise they never denied their guilt and if they give a full account of the crime and showed how they said it a lot it was sufficient material evidence to throw we conducted
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a public trial with a courtroom packed with four hundred people if you for example decided to come over and watch it or two or four about it during the welcome anyone was welcome foreign diplomats the parents of the accused the parents of the injured and those maimed in the terrorist attack it was an open trial anyone can stand up and state their. if the mother had any suspicion or doubts she was welcome to speak about them i made it clear that every day every clue needs to be checked and that's the way it was organized that's why it was absolutely transparent that again i dismissed any suggestion that the case was falsified or trumped up for why would i need that now tell me if you were the president of belarus why would you need if every katie case to be honest initially i was very skeptical that we would be able to find those responsible for the terror attack with such cases are usually extremely hard to solve the issue i mean if you will point that out seeing you tracked them down too
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quickly with god's help we suppressant you mention god once again i don't want to torment you too much but here's the final question on the issue well you can call it torments and we have heard it it's just that you've been very open and sincere in your replies so i would like to use the opportunity to ask you once you stand before god that we have any fear do you think you'll pardon you for all those clemency please you've turned down you see alexander a president gets to face god almost every day to use your metaphor. that is a lot of any president because you get to make crucial decisions with bono and therefore if you speak to god fairly often which in chess i can say this on the record right now well i'm absolutely certain that the court verdict and sentence were correct and justified i have no doubts about that whatsoever if it and when people tell me the convicts were young men i think back to my visit to death here
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in metro station some forty minutes after the blast i remember people holding me back because i was there with my son yes your son was there you know people said why did you bring the kid but i had no choice nobody asked me what if there's another explosion but i just didn't have the option of not going to end up you see lived through it all go over that there was nothing personal about the trial my personal feelings are my experience that is so my cross to bear and bear it i will whether i consult god about it are not it is my personal business just as it was my right as president or grant or deny pardon to the convicts lechon still picture this scattered body parts and that's just a natural chorus so when i entered the station those images are forever with me says alexander the location for president a little public delgado's spotlight movie back shortly after the break so stay with us don't.
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welcome back to thought the entry show on r.t. i. just a reminder that my guests on the show today is look i shall go president of the republic of belarus so. let's talk about moscow politics as you're visiting moscow today. and the reasons you reach an economic community summit the other way with as you were on your way here received a report saying the key outcome of this summit was the decision to build the transformation of this community as minsk but that would mean you yourself with truth has certain disagreements we must. explain what it means this is a lie we have no disagreements with moscow will not be kind of disagreements we have are of the type that all the other countries have let me tell you first how it
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was and then you'll draw your own conclusions about our disagreements with at the previous year in economic community summit when we stablish the customs union and launched the common economic space which meant higher integration level as of january this year question came up on the further actions regarding your reception . it seemed to have played its rule which was to establish the customs union in within just establish the customs union and we also created the common economics piece that included three members which wanted to join it were prepared to do so and had provided a very wired legal framework for it but this wasn't an easy job to do as a client having to pass certain laws in their parliaments it took us quite a long time to match everything it took us two years so worked there were three states like that if you're a second has five states including could you stand entergy to stand so the three
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countries overcame his barrier. could you stand cannot become a euro second or a common economic space member to be. as it's a w t o member. but when he joined the w two we practically canceled its import duties for commodities. and the customs union has a low protection level for manufacturers. national but russia is also practically and they are already called on that was the first point and second even if russia does become a w two you remember russian president canceled it seems for today's theme in enrichment for a transition period and they have protection mechanisms the protectionist turns. industries and some other industries where they don't have protection mechanisms like a car manufacturing industry an aircraft manufacturing industry this is not important
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for us so it's no big deal i thought it wasn't really until twenty fifteen proposed by you i mean minsk. we step the customs union and launch the common economic space there were three of us. seem to have reached its objective. so the question was what to do with your second that then in january president i said above was the forest to see that we didn't need your a second any more i supported him through it whereas president medvedev was against it let's get that if your sect had played its role in it have to be reorganized as it was an international organization of international status so it couldn't just be terminated have to be transformed into something new. that's when i said that we would finance the euro sex secretariat and structure for the first quarter but we wouldn't be able to carry on with it as of april as we didn't have the funds in our
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budget and we decided to meet in march and make a decision on establishing the customs union in the coming economic space and what to do with you are sick and so we had a meeting there inside assume the obligation of preparing its raf solution for this issue russians did a really good job in preparing the agreement on transforming the eurasian economic community into eurasian economic union. so we made this decision and we agreed that from twenty fifteen will how this eurasian economic union if not for the russian side suggested speeding up the purposes and the belorussian side supported down having drawn in tension to two provisions in a draft agreement or opposed by them it said that the economic commission headed by mr. had the right to make agreements in the international arena on behalf of water
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three countries and i literally said the following we are not against it if this becomes a stumbling block we will agree to it. but this isn't something we need now so far russia kazakstan and diller's are what capable of making agreements. on our own behalf but with a list of eurasian economic union is an economic organization whereas agreements are political military and so want and we agreed that should we decide that we need the eurasian economic union to negotiate on behalf of our three states we wouldn't grant this authority to national and we have done so on three matters could it go therefore we spoke against this regulation. but really we didn't adopt this draft agreement we didn't sign it why. because kazakhstan spoke strongly
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against economic union but now it's up to you to resolve to go who was for it and who was against there was a certain logic in the fact that ca's a stun objected to a proposal made by russians and the russians who shared a common mind on signing the agreement. we said yes we should sign the agreement on the union they replied we shouldn't speed up the spruces you know that since we have already agreed to start the union in twenty fifteen let's stick to twenty fifteen days and they put the blame when you have the always do that if anything happens it's location cause for right. it's a pity i can't prove it break now but if you want to do a report on it i can send you this part of it talks transcripts later as a gesture of good will i thank you mr president i want to ask you both and. the first leader of independent bellew's was not allowed to cross the border to go to with the any of the other day to go to i have interviewed him in the past and he
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always gave you harsh criticism you always seem to take it calmly what has changed . you know i have never attacked any politicians who were in power in belarus before me it's up to god to judge their service you can take a look at my legacy at the legacy oceans give each. kid each and others. and make your own conclusions i have never brought up anything from the past it's just you each has been recently portrayed as a hero by all russian t.v. stations which is the way but you all seem to forget that dish give each government wanted to think to all russians from belarus musician everyone counted the russians russians and polls well below the false oath were not for the evil lucas shankill were russians would have been shown the door long ago when your approach you should keep that in mind as a matter of fact talking off his politics i would only mention one thing for all he and ukrainian president prof chilton them or sweated maurice yeltsin to dissolve
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the soviet union the first thing this is enough to show who he says it's a useless vote but again it's not for me to judge him need i know it soo much about you skits and if i make at least a single fact public that would be enough for him to retire from politics for the rest of his life but i have never done it and will never do so say well you said it was not allowed to leave the country well the european union has come up with a list of people who are banned to travel to europe and your humble servant is among them there were other sanctioned students but that's enough for this measure was introduced on the initiative or a fifth column and one of its sets of leaders astonished leftist gets what is the here responded with your own travel and then list well we have not introduced it formally now it isn't working yet is it should be no votes will do that at the un it is this feast column that tells the west which people are going to say chanson enterprises should be on the down list they're calling for economic sanctions says i with a little question because i will be waiting for
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