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homeland security monitoring the occupy movement are going to. give me if they could through the hall to receive hundreds of pages from the h.s.t. of point. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then something else here see some other part of it and realize everything is off. the big.
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mystery. but in the alone itself there is a real headlines with not. the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and from what actually matters to those viewers and so that's like young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . is the state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.
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russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. our guys it's time for showing talent and i program i wrote this week we spoke about the mainstream media how they give birth right preferential treatment to certain candidates maybe like santorum and romney all the ignore ron paul so we want to know is that because of his current standings in the polls or might it be something else it's going to produce a pretty recent s.n.c. to find out what you have to say. on the streets of d.c. to tell people in the nation's capital what our viewers had to say on twitter facebook and you tube and see which comments we should keep or delete. as mitt romney continues to win more state primaries in is getting all the media
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attention we asked our viewers why has ron paul failed to win more contests pile said ron paul has a strong and outspoken following that at first seems impressive but failed to grow like other candidates do you want to keep it or delete it keep. think it's true i think you know run polls consistently gets you know to fifteen percent in each state you can really expand that coalition big teddy said the corporate media hates ron paul they minimize his presence or support at every turn do you want to keep it or delete it if they keep it out of the year i mean he doesn't really get out there that much factionalism said sorry there's just no big conspiracy theory here americans just don't like ron paul do you want to keep it or delete it well i mean . the reason why they don't like it is more to do it. is to a low touch with the mainstream mitt romney's more i guess he's more moderate. while the two republican front runners get all the media attention we should not forget that ron paul came in third in this week's illinois primary so for
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a lot of americans his message it's still important. to. our guys thanks for your responses as usual and here's our next question for you tomorrow is the deadline for president obama to announce his nominee for president of the world bank opposition an american has held since the bank was founded after world war two so do you think that obama will continue the tradition of nominating an american and who do you think it'll be on a snowy thing on facebook twitter and you to i who knows your response just might make it on air. when newly released documents show the department of homeland security closely monitored the occupy wall street movement it also shows that they were concerned about crossing the line and unconstitutional surveillance truthout was the first organization to file a freedom of information act request with th us on the matter so the first to get hundreds of pages of internal documents and we've been given bits of information
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here and there in the six months since occupy began the d.h.s.s. report that was released by wiki leaks after training strappers e-mails so we look at these they had an interest but you these documents show as if they ever actually broke the law by lated civil liberties what about the question of a quarter native occupy crackdown joining me from our studio in los angeles is jason leopold lead investigative reporter for truthout or jason thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess for starters mean there's nearly four hundred pages of documents that you've got here what the county the most. yeah that's right there are about four hundred pages and what stood out the most was the fact that there was it was unclear within the department of homeland security what they could include not to. there is no question that some officials within the agency sered that what they were doing that some of their actions in terms of monitoring occupy wall street rose to the level of an authorized surveillance and
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it states that clearly you documents but at the same time we don't have any direct proof you'd say right now these documents tell you for sure that the they did cross the line. that's true they do not state and in fact i want to point out that there's no smoking gun within these documents within these four hundred pages about department of homeland security taking part in a coordinated crackdown of the dismantling of occupy encampments and crackdown on the protests but there is no question that there were concerns about civil liberties violations and in fact i want to just point out that in your introduction you mentioned the document turned over to wiki that we. received on the department of homeland security and its role in monitoring occupy wall street that talking is actually referenced in the cash that that i received yesterday and in that document
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actually was a cause of concern for the department of homeland security because some officials actually said that the preparation of this particular five page report was unauthorized and as a result. it was unauthorized and posted on the internal database information that's also shared with the f.b.i. and they scrubbed it they ended up scrubbing that because it. fears that it rose to the level of from surveillance are to think about things a little fishy to me because if you go back to that document that stratfor had the way they compiled it all the sources it was open source they basically just cut and paste the little tidbits from new york times articles from bloomberg articles it was something that anybody out there could have found and so does it seem like they were being overly careful right i mean these days i guess it would be nice to assume that our federal agencies always complied with the law always had respect
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for civil liberties but i think that more often than not we have to be skeptical of that these days and so is it actually kind of a relief you know or what is the should we be happy if the they actually were so careful about it. now i think that i don't think there should be a relief at all because it's clear that they were clearly monitoring occupy wall street from the inception of the of the organization of the movement before there was even a protest they were preparing threat assessments i mean there's information in these documents about a threat assessment that they prepared for occupy pittsburgh and it's that particular threat assessment that concerned. some agency officials that they were crossing the line they were violating the first amendment i also want to point out that these are just the first batch of documents that the department of homeland security has turned over fact it's just an interim release i spoke to one of the
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foyer analysts there yesterday and we should expect another batch in mid april and these documents will continue to be released by the agency over the next several months. showing exactly what they were involved in so i need more there's more to be revealed more information to be revealed. highlighting exactly what the agency's role was so i don't think anyone should sit back and say oh this is a relieve the. question ok we're concerned about civil liberties but then jane let me ask you and i want to. hear but then some people look at it and they can count on these documents that if i'm at home i think hearings getting a lot of or ever quest on a infinitely could tell that there was a lot of interest a lot of people wanted this uncovered so do you think if there's any chance that they are being extra careful. yes it's actually funny that you point that out as a. point of
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a conversation i had yesterday yes they actually mentioned in these documents that some of the talking mincer they discovered were the subject of before your requests i filed my four requests are probably thirty first. and i think that some of the information that was going back and forth at least from some of the senior level officials to me indicated that they were aware that their words that their actions that the materials that they were distributing would eventually end up being disclosed publicly and so the last thing i want to ask you to is i mean i know that you try to get information from the f.b.i. they're still claiming they don't have any documents with occupy wall street and you also tried to go local to the n.y.p.d. has the freedom of information law in new york and do you think that where i mean that to me sounds almost more fascinating especially now that we find out how that . surveillance within the muslim community do you think the are crumbling. oh there's no question that the documents and the information that the new york
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police department and its strong terrorism task force would be very troubling it remains to be seen what they'll turn over there's no question in my mind that they have photographs video clear cut threat assessments. so it's a matter of time before they at least speak to me you know what they'll turn over and what's privilege but i think that that would definitely be more troubling and i think the same goes for as well i guess and i thank so much for joining us tonight and. well keep on the lookout too for when you get the next batches of documents they keep coming from us thank you. and last night occupy wall street joined thousands of marchers took to the streets of new york city for the million hoody march their demand was justice in the tragic case of trayvon martin trayvon as a seventeen year old black boy who was shot and killed last month in florida by
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neighborhood watch captain george zimmerman and martin wearing a hooded sweatshirt was armed with nothing but a bag of skittles and iced tea and the shooter was even arrested local officials invoked self defense and the stories grabbed hold of the country in a way so that so few do because the death of trayvon martin is fundamentally about justice and how it's told out which is not equally black boys dead whose only crime is many have said seems to be walking down the streets or being black his killer is free speaking last night to the crowd new york city is councilman william. country. right. that's right i would. go to korea.
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right. now protesters joined by new york city councilman the family of trayvon martin and occupiers all march in union square times square and in both places they are met with a massive police presence something occupy wall streeters are quite familiar with and vocal about their reports of chance like no justice no peace and the police mixed in with calls for justice for trayvon martin so you might be wondering right about now why it is the occupy wall street joined a march in solidarity that actually makes sense occupy wall street which started off focused on the lack of fairness the lack of accountability on wall street in the financial sector it's going to move the aims to fight injustice in all its forms in this country whether it be a reeses justice system violent police or corrupt washington about americans it waking up to the reality that justice is not being served for trayvon martin or for the millions of americans whose voices are drowned out by the many moneyed interests that control both the political and economic system in this country and
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if i will continue across the country tonight in d.c. there's a visual for trayvon martin that's going to be held at seven pm at howard university and this weekend a rally is going to be held freedom plaza home of the washington d.c. chapter of occupy the looks of the million hoodie march is just the beginning. so it's time for our last break of the evening but coming up he said there's simply no time to pass a stock act that would actually stop professional insider trade very real infertile time award and on happy hour gangs of beautiful women rolling the highways in search of male sperm and then word of the story is that obama could formally endorse gay marriage i just summarize all that. people calling like you said for free and fair elections.
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congressional knowledge act this is person introduced to congress almost five years ago and may two thousand and seven it was designed to stop elected officials and their staffers from profiting off of the nonpublic information that's regularly disclosed in the corridors of power it's also designed to stop lobbyists research analysts other people within the so-called political intelligence industry from selling that nonpublic information to speculators so it's one of applied securities regulations to call. congress that would force political intelligence to disclose their activities and a lot of people out there that this stuff was already illegal but thanks to a lack of robust few to sherry agreements of better regulation it was not so congress people in hedge funds therefore gleefully profit off of profiting off of insider info in the shadows almost americans are made to blissfully unaware and suddenly for me saw a spate of news stories coming out about it we spoke about it here on the show and then in november of last year the issue shot to prominence after sixty minutes
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feature on c.b.s. shed light on the problem and ignited a fire storm on capitol hill so the stock act was originally drafted by representative louise slaughter a new york democrat and reintroduced a march by ten watts democratic congressman from minnesota and it was dragged up co-sponsored by a gaggle of congresspeople all seeking to cover their asses but when house financial services committee chair spencer bock is moved to mark up this bill he was stopped by wall street darling virginia republican house majority leader eric cantor move it sparked a lot of outrage among republicans who were obviously conscious of the p.r. nightmare on their hands but then house republicans got luckily they were tossed a lifeline when president obama touted the stock act in his state of the union speech. insider trading by members of congress i will sign it tomorrow. so senators both republicans and democrats got to work on the stock act and suddenly stopping insider trading was the in thing to do now typical capitol
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hill move over lobbyist succeeded in just stripping the senate bill of all the important provisions that are forcing political intelligence agents to register as lobbyists have to do the fear of merely the build merely proposed to study the issue that's a washington talk for let it die just so you guys know but twitter star i were republicans out there charles grassley introduced the registration amendment that would have allowed regulators to catch private sector actors that trade on this insider information harvested from congress and that amendment actually passed by a vote of sixty to thirty nine when the stock act made its way down to the house majority leader eric cantor watered down he stripped of the grassley amendment and another key about it which would have strengthened anti-corruption laws and then he put the bill in suspension which meant that it couldn't be amended by anybody in the house so all of this this long story goes all brings us back to harry reid there was some hope out there that these amendments would be reinserted if the senate voted to put this bill of her conference committee but really refused and
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said he took up cantor's version arguing of a conference committee simply would have taken too much time but if you decide all the money another motive for reid's moves apparent he's a massive beneficiary of lobbying firms and last week large arrests and according to open secrets dot org between two thousand and seven and twenty twelve securities and investment firms and lobbying firms were his second and third third largest donors both industries are key in political intelligence so we just can't help but question reid claim that the conference committee would taken too much time for that sorry excuse about a senator is tonight's told time when. our guys it's time for a happy hour and joining me this evening are two producer adrianne a zero and alex let's all sit at their i think about or thanks for joining you guys
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thanks. i mean so we just have this tool time of a lot of corruption stuff and you see everything is a lot of down and then a lot of times you know i guess that we have we just know that being these things go on for you don't necessarily expect lobbyist to be so blatant about it or to brag about it but the public report put out his nice little bit of lobbyist at a con parade basically bragging about how they got somebody reelected and how it's going to help them take a listen. well to the right place. already. i mean like i said you know what it's like really going to a conference on the stage don't people know that stuff is going to happen get on you tube though like this is we're in the age of i don't know modernity it's going
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to people are going to know that you said this. question i for one was shocked totally shocked that spencer baucus the guy convicted or not convicted but implied in an insider trading case that sixty minutes reported on and he was bent over backwards for the banks is also bending over backwards for the obvious i mean. but yeah it's like the sketch thing from yesterday but the gaffe was that he told the truth you know so they just have to realize that in this day and age it's a lie all the time not just when you're talking directly to a reporter oh lovely. ok let's move on to another story and this is and it's a pretty serious story here is there's a local news clip started swimming for you. here sergeant stein's facebook page that got him into trouble on it he calls himself a tea party patriot and conservative hell bent on defending the constitution and preserving america's greatest criticizes everything from president obama's health care plan to his apology for the koran burnings. now what he also did
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was he posted comments saying that he's not going to follow the unlawful orders of the commander in chief and so basically now he's facing dismissal like they want they want to let him go for it and he says i'm completely shocked it's happening is that i've been nothing wrong i've only stated what i was a date that i will defend the constitution or not follow a lawful orders and if that's a crime what is america then why are you in the military then i mean if you're in the military then why are you not. mean like those two things sort of go hand in hand so you know that's the. time to go. yeah i mean obviously this is a touchy subject because it's a free speech issue and if you weren't a service member you should be totally allowed to express what you believe you have out here think you do and the supreme court has upheld that a lot of times and even things you know this controversy with afghanistan there's if you go to
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a psychiatrist in the military you give up your right to confidentiality that you would normally expect so there's all kinds of rights that you give up when you enter the military you know and this needs to this is where i don't know the details of this case enough to really say but that he's can't really be political you know if you join the military. then you know it's time for you to leave and if you really want to be an activist there's no room for activism in the military in our way that it works that way is that if the military is going to function and there has to be the sense of discipline yes out of order and it's the people that are actually fighting these wars and probably oh you're seeing some of the things that i would agree are unlawful actions that aren't allowed to you know speak out against it but it's it's a very it's i mean you see that you know you didn't sort of see that like what history like so many of the biggest you know activists were vets were you know x. vets so you can you are more than welcome to say whatever you want after you leave the military but once you're in there that's interesting you say get out first get out yes yes i mean you as an american you can say whatever it is that you want but you're serving your country you know that's what you signed up for it's like
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afterwards you can say whatever it is that you want not doing right let's move on to another another issue out there actually going to make me happy. you know we've heard about president obama any american leader i guess you could face about people's rights all over the world. i still hope. the cost of a deeper shift that we're seeing a transformation not only will it into our laws but all the names of the fabric of our society. well it turns out the thing about the obama administration is that they obama has never actually come out and said i support gay marriage. and informed source says the active conversations are taking place between the white house and the campaign about whether he should complete his evolution on marriage and the chances of it and if not what are fifty fifty before the election really ugly when you see it honestly i kind of feel the same like it's not good to hear
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that there be a fifty fifty he might actually say the equal right and let's check in to see if people are sort of happy that maybe you're going to do that before the election season but there's no i'm i believe in yeah i love the wording on that it's like clear it sounds like a lawyer wrote it it's so hard it's so careful yeah exactly i mean because he gets it from both sides of this obviously there's a lot of gay men and women who voted for obama and he's been good on tell most things but this is obviously the most important issue so i would certainly like to see him. i mean i will i would love to see if you if you were like should this be a glimmer of hope and i mean how much can you really believe anything that maybe an empathy if it's you know if you have everything is what i mean you know quote that right there ok. ok we have time to play the clip but i was going to give you the statistic basically twenty one percent of americans said that they would give up sex for one year just to keep access to the internet who are these people who are
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these people i would love to meet i mean there's a bit of a big deal i'm one of those people and i'm telling you because if i give are you dating anybody how does your girlfriend feel of the. earth and now. i mean if you give up sex or you try to go have sex you know your chances of getting sex are questionable but if you want the internet you have a hundred percent chance of getting the internet so that you will not receive the internet goes out all the time you can never really got. i signal i mean i get i mean i pray god does not sound like internet doesn't work in my own apartment but i think we're not the worst currently the six percent of people in japan that they would give up sex three. times oh nobody is really some of the news stories coming out of there are going to wrap it up but thanks for joining me tonight i think for tonight's show thanks for tuning in and they can come back tomorrow politico's gave kat means going to be joining us for happy hour and in the meantime don't forget to
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