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a sense for you. if you want to. call them. oh i'm sorry but in washington d.c. here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture it's been two years since obamacare became law and more americans have access to health care that ever before so many conservatives like paul ryan and mitt romney want to strip americans such a fundamental right that and more and tonight's big picture rubble and striking a balance between private and public power is a major goal for society today and correctly reaching it will help us prosper in the twenty first century so how do we achieve this balance for gaston's nice
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conversations and great minds and inside the daily take if you cause an oil spill in brazil you're a criminal because we're all still in america you're given a first class ticket back to your mansion in england that's what our government is laissez faire attitude about corporate crime. it's friday that means it's time to rondell joining me for tonight's big picture on the caroline may reporter with the daily caller tina diploid managing editor with crooks and liars. and syndicated columnist and dan bongino republican candidate for the u.s. senate from the state of maryland have you back and nice to have you have you all with us let's start out with what's going on down in sanford florida the sanford city commissioners voted no confidence for the chief of police believe jr he pretty much. leave george zimmerman is still running around loose the guy who shot this
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kid over a million people signed an online petition asking for his arrest george zimmerman's arrest president obama spoke out about the tragedy today. when i think about. this boy. i think about my own kids if i had a son he'd look like trayvon. and meanwhile the american legislative exchange council alec the n.r.a. and wal-mart the forces behind this law they have not taken any responsibility for the consequences of this legislation and this morning geraldo rivera came out and said you know it's the same thing as a woman wearing a short dress should expect to get raped here's a role. i am urging the parents of black and latino youngsters particularly to not let their children go out wearing hoodies i think the hoodie is as much responsibly for trayvon martin's death as george zimmerman was. so what do you wear when it's raining and you know what what's what do you all think is going
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on here in sanford or carol in terms of the stand your ground law you spoke about earlier i think in this case even the drafters and the author of that law say that wouldn't apply in this case because actually zimmerman percy's was chasing her so i think that that issue is kind of off the table on that but that case but to take that although you know the number of justifiable homicides in the woods homicides for which people can't sue the gun manufacturers the n.r.a. or the gun seller wal-mart which were largest been sold in the united states has tripled since that what was passed either way it's not an issue in this case i don't i don't believe but beyond that i think that there's a sort of a media feeding frenzy at this point and i think that might be a good idea to deep breath and see justice be served because i think i think we all agree that it's not me and guns don't kill people who kill people. according to rights this is you know this is the saddest part about this incident is that it's not isolated that this happens you said three times more since these laws have been
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inactive but also this this attitude towards black young black men i was just in oakland oakland had oscar grant who was essentially executed by a part police officer a couple of years ago i mean these these. they don't get as much publicity and then every so often we have a you know i kid with a bag of skittles in his hands and we all start to pay attention and that should open up broader conversation about yes these gun laws but also why this man is not just in a he's not he should be off the streets you know in dim the issue of this legislation that apparently caused george zimmerman think that he had every right to shoot this kid and in fact cause the police department to assert that he had the right to do it was deliberately misled. solution was proposed by the n.r.a. and wal-mart and approved by the american legislative exchange council and then
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sent to all the states i mean isn't that a bizarre perversion of democracy right from the get go no and i think i have a unique perspective on this having been a police officer actually in the streets in a precinct that had nearly three hundred homicides and five point six square miles in one year i can say unfortunately this is a this is a horrible incident we can all agree democrat republican we don't need to politicize this at all i can look at this and say if i was in the street and i saw this this this child what was he doing i don't understand what he was doing but i think the blame has to be placed if he was loose of sleep visiting a neighbor you know you know exactly no that's my point what was he doing wrong my point of what was he was walking with a beggar said you know that you know i agree with you but what was he doing wrong to incite this while he was walking while black i mean the issue that that isn't discussed right now in them in the mainstream media is white privilege the fact of the matter is that african-american parents all over america for for centuries have
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had to tell their kids you have to act differently than the white neighbors you know i never had to relatively speaking worry about my kid getting shot and i have after american friends of my age who have told me horror stories about their kids and. you know it's just it's a different set of standards and i basically always in a hoodie unless i'm on your show you put. on what way i act differently i mean you've got to get your hands in your pockets not look suspicious not be by yourself at night i mean there's all these things these wrestlers that rest differently try to try to try to dress in a way you know you are here more and more to sit standing on a street corner for whatever reason and i mean you can't stand on your own street i dispute that but i don't think i don't five percent of white americans even understand what white privilege i don't i don't buy that part. i'll tell you what i was i was a secret service a defense well if you're so quick. i was at a c.v.s. store i had to use the box a lot and i came back in box i had to shave that day and i was sweaty and i had
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a hoodie on the store you know that security guard followed me around that store all day i'm like without white privilege i mean again i don't like to get into the racial dynamics of this it was a tragic tragic episode but the blame belongs exclusively on the smith i don't know what this man zimmerman was thinking i mean walking this close he was to we would think he was thinking they always get away with this he was thinking you know afeni have you thought of for that if the facts proved correct he should be punished and that's partisan issue moving along with the last sunday mitt romney was on fox news and he told america that gas prices are high because of president obama and paul krugman points out yesterday's new york times that that's actually paul krugman uses the word a lot which i thought was pretty startling because he's usually rose softspoken that the president really doesn't have much control over gas prices right now the united states is a net exporter of gasoline for the first time in sixty two years last time this happened here truman was president we are exporting gasoline and and some
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universities and so bill o'reilly has called for a tariff on export and yes if we stopped export and gasoline then the supply of gasoline in the united states which we have plenty of would be so high that gas would be like a buck and a half or two dollars a gallon so bill o'reilly says if the obama administration wanted to could ask congress to raise export taxes on the oil companies to encourage them to sell their products here think about it you know companies are regulated by the federal government they can't drill on land nor in american waters without permission from the feds many republicans want to drill baby drill what's the point of all the oil goes to china increased production obviously doesn't mean lower prices for us i agree with bill o'reilly i love any story where bill o'reilly calls for the federal government to raise taxes it's fantastic this is great thought this is this is our trade policy on steroids and we're seeing the same thing happen with gasoline that we saw happen with manufacturing over there because it's going to help you know how to. think about this from here from a pure economics economics perspective having studied economics for
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a very long time how is increasing the price of a product visa via an export tariff going to make cast prices cheaper it before our eyes alone only increases the price for other countries it doesn't matter if the earlier is the global market that is nonsense this is yes a lean gasoline is refined here in the united states yes and and if it stays here in the united states then we end up with a lot more of it one of the ways that the oil companies are keeping these are today this is today's average prices for gasoline one of the reasons one of the ways that the old companies are keeping these gasoline prices is by exporting piastre create artificial shortages gasoline eighty four to ninety percent of price of gasoline is from the price of a barrel of oil taxes that's just the economic facts really we can spin it all we want it's a global market but it's not and we have the jobs right here the jobs are domestic the markets global i mean what about keystone what's his explanation for that if the president has no control whatsoever as they not speculate he's going to say
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what the president just did as he said yeah let's get this world out of the gulf coast so we can refine it and export even more gasoline none of that is destined for the american public according to trans canada the papers that they filed they do not intend to that's going to increase the price of gasoline according to trans canada so increase the price of gasoline in the midwest which one hundred thirty cents a gallon. carol i agree with dan in terms of it and global market and yes we can help to increase that supply by drilling you know you bring more supply of margaret x. and more to gasoline yes but we have so much more we have so much we don't organize more to drill we're exporting gasoline because the price is high the price would be lower if we would develop more of our domestic assets that's why we're exporting it's basic economics i just don't agree that the gas is high i mean i was in south america and there the gas prices are in leaders so it looks like it's five dollars a gallon five dollars a leader it's incredibly explain. and you know what people do they're able to function by having really officiant cars here we still want as you these we still
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want these giant vehicles to commute to work i just the whole idea i think this is a red herring by conservatives to try and make obama into this anti energy president which he clearly is not the facts on the ground that he is not in and say energy president and gas prices are not that high i'm sorry for them and their energy but that's what happened to serve your bush if you think you know he's exposed for the getting horizontal you'll agree with and you know what we should be getting off fossil fuels it or not and if you do that because there is not always a finite supply of gas and it makes. sense why are we not you know these rails explain to the families in baltimore city when you develop your wind forms who are going to have twenty dollars extra tacked on to their bills or can't afford it doesn't affect me you explained things i also think i just don't think i think that is a scare tactic you know they have to say it wasn't for them that's kind of you know
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. that's you know it's hyperbole is what they want to go there's twenty dollars well i just i don't i just disagree i think that we all have to be invested quite literally how do you use your energy you can expect people to say that also what you want to do that more if you're going to pay twenty dollars more i did i did actually raise not we're expensive if you if you take out the way that we're subsidizing the oil and gas industry subsidized by the military or the shipping lines from the middle east to here and by paying for the tens of thousands of cancers that are caused and the hundreds of thousands of asthma is that are caused every year but. also us million are we are subsidizing this this industry by playing music so i would agree that we should and i think we should and all the energy subsidies and just you know survive on their own merits i mean i think when you do that we have so we have an infrastructure already built around settling with price anderson no longer support. i mean i just i think that it's a good welfare program in america procedures
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go back to the guys big picture rumble i'm joined by caroline mae reporter with the daily caller tina deploy do we the managing editor with crooks and liars and a syndicated columnist and dan bongino republican candidate for the u.s. senate from the state of maryland paul ryan rolled out his personal vision for america this week we will it will actually i guess it's the republicans on the budget committee because they did pass away by one vote includes massive cuts to food stamps massive cuts to student loans cuts to medicaid cuts to social security but says medicare enormous tax breaks for the top one percent the top tax rate goes
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from thirty five down to twenty five percent it hasn't been there since since hartings administration one hundred twenty one which kicked off the great crash and it would give three trillion dollars in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans to the top one percent actually the top one tenth of one percent all paid for by cuts to education and health care in fact according to a study from citizens for tax justice every millionaire america would get an average of eight hundred eighty seven thousand votes instantly and that's just the bottom of the line millionaires how does how do the republicans think they can win any kind of an election with this think it's a bold approach you know we have this a try normanton tie on that culture and tyrant and thomas society and compare who compared to where we were you know twenty thirty forty years ago it's this continued to. grow exponentially and i think that and actually social security paid more during the eisenhower administration than it does now real dollars but in terms of just looking at it from the big picture there are
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a lot of people are saying wait what are we paying for what's going on our debt is exploding and i think paul ryan's budget is actually taking a proactive approach to that is just what i think i want to read for maybe you know starting to deal with some of these problems that get us exploding because while reagan george bush and george w. bush in aggregate ran up a nine trillion dollar debt with star wars three trillion dollars wars in iraq two trillion dollars unfunded medicare and we continue and we continue to build on it paid with these entitlements i think we need a balloon because first of all our economy is not doing as well as we would hope it would and we have all we have these baby there. you know they were they raised taxes and got us a balanced budget. you know hit coincided. with a bubble i have i think you'll be proud of me i have preempted the paul ryan tax plan by going around and tipping rich people out of my retirement sixty oh yeah you know i decided i had to completely bypass the government in this you know this is this is absolutely ridiculous in the last paul ryan budget plan we use euphemisms
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like it's bold and it's brave and that is basically saying it's wrong it asked for his last budget plan and asked for a rider tax or more people to be paying taxes meeting poor people are having their cars readers your taxes are going on what has to go those forty five percent of americans who don't pay taxes because they don't make enough money are going to be asked to contribute more people who are in the top tax rate don't i will comment on the stand i want to move that was every left wing talking point known to man but i just want to tell you mr president clinton never balanced the budget go to the u.s. treasury website he came close in two thousand with eighty billion dollars it was social security funds that were spent that is a myth it is not true go to treasure it had had it stayed at that point though the budget would have balanced over time the affordable care act. obamacare is two years old today it's the anniversary to have million new young people or. more young people now have health insurance fifty thousand americans with preexisting
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conditions can get insurance who were being refused before by the health insurance companies five point one million senior citizens are saving three point two billion dollars prescription drug costs because the donut hole has been shrunk twenty point four million women now have better access to mammograms and forms of preventative care and paul ryan's budget says do away with the fact take forty eight million americans are often offer. health care but where does it say that it wears out that medicare and that is the aggregate of the cuts to medicare medicaid and undoing all of the stuff that i just like the one the president had the fifty five thousand dollars in cuts per person for people fifty five and younger you talk about those kind of what are you talking about those are the cuts built into his long term budget for medicare who for medicare i'm talking about the president united states the bill that was again from obamacare his long term budget cut fifty five thousand dollars per person people fifty five and you notice that over a ten to twenty year period it was. not medicare cards medicare advantage medicare
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advantage. of medicaid is where we give money to united health care so that their c.e.o. can make literally a million dollars and their last two c.e.o.'s that literally made a billion dollars what health insurance company should be making sure it's you know but now is that if this part of the health care act is so wonderful where all the plans today by the president the administration and there are more there should i pay should harrigan wish me well i'm just saying and i think that there are three pretty significant things that have happened we're coming up on whether or not it's constitutional you know yes i know it's going to be so supreme court's going to try that or maybe oh found out you know relate this to me coughing twice as much as no actually the c.e.o. said it's going to save an additional fifty billion dollars over the original estimates mitt romney said that and it's a lie right in the other lie is that they. this was the republican plan that passed they heritage foundation came up with this great idea to have. to have everybody buy aids or health insurance into private plans this was the alternative nixon says
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yes this is the alternate to hellery care and this was the republican idea that everybody was for and now until they were against it i got no votes republican zero because obama is ignoring it we did it we got. it is again i think as you read the news it wasn't their idea they said suddenly but when we. go to their all they know this is this is the edges i guess wasn't ok it was a sketch we've publicans where they just shake it and it's no longer they're going to go to work certainly. apparently no one wants mitt romney to be the republican candidate for president i know you're not even going to not even the birth the birth or conspiracy theorists have demanded that the california secretary of state produce evidence that romney was in fact born in the u.s. not in mexico or papa romney was born so the grandpa or ram romney could have had his multiple wives so what else will the his own party go after him and will be a is anti canine agenda stemming from his see the picture here is in from his
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twelve hour ride with the family dog seamus stripped of the strap to the roof be that mitt has secret wives had all over the u.s. who stockpiled enough food to last around these three any time. i called with dick about and seeing him it was giving money to a homeless person his last visit to washington d.c. . caroline you were there i don't know where to go and how much i want either dog lover i honestly the or right some interesting yeah i'm comments but i would say that most republicans are conservatives anywhere much like uncertain about his flip flops yeah ok i think you're right the dog you know i dog show your humanity and he clearly doesn't have any ok was that a jab at national lampoon's chevy chase with the dog and so then how do i so they're going to orally do it yeah well i don't know i don't. about meadow by chevy chase it may well be a fake dog for the media ok my answer is it will be revealed that mitt has a secret stockpile of perks and farm brand so that. you know i've got
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a clear he's not sorry i thank you all for joining me tonight it's great to have you with us coming up in our conversations the great. society can prosper in the twenty first century. to me george pollock the third in addition to being a very rich guy and an american citizen george book the third is the head of the chevron company's coil drilling operation in brazil and a few months ago the brazilian navy noticed an oil slick off the coast of brazil and tracked it back toward the chevrons oil wells total spill about three thousand barrels to put that in perspective the b.p.
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oil spill in the american gulf coast last year was blowing over eighty thousand barrels a day and by the time it was capped had dumped into the gulf coast somewhere between three and ten million barrels and did i mention that because b.p. and trans ocean had cut safety corners not only did that horrific oil spill happened but eleven men died but back to brazil brazil with one of the developing world's past this growing and strongest economies is using a lot of oil and drilling for it like crazy so like us but when george buck the third company chevron lead three thousand barrels in total into the ocean off the brazilian closed last week the brazilian government took away george brock's asport so he couldn't fly home to the united states and this week they charged him and sixteen other oil industry executives with the crime of leaking that oil and damaging the brazilian environment economy and those guys including another american to run trans ocean in brazil are each facing decades in prison there are two things i find fascinating about the story the first is the difference in
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response between brazil and the united states to oil spills b.p.'s tony hayward came to testify before the u.s. congress and essentially told him to go screw themselves and we let him keep his millions his passport and leave the country go back to his mansion in england and did i mention that he. words company's actions on his watch led to the death of eleven americans and millions of barrels of oil wiping out our gulf coast on the other hand chevrons american employee who runs their brazilian operations george clark the third whose company spilled a mere three thousand barrels of oil in brazil has had his passport pole pulled was grilled by police instead of the brazilian congress and is now facing serious prison time that's the first fascinating thing the difference in the response between the two governments which may have something to do with the fact that in the u.s. tony hayward's be routinely gives big bucks to american politicians it's called lobbying and campaign contributions and now super pac commissions buying politicians here is not only legal it's celebrated but if american companies
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chevron tried to buy off politicians in brazil it would be a national scandal and politicians would go to jail as well as the economists noted in february twenty fifth two thousand and eleven article titled the money trail brazil has strict campaign finance laws brazil is blessed with competitive and aggressive media and finishes institutions that investigate such crime campaign finance scandals revolving around the public prosecutor's office a semi autonomous part of the federal government and it's local equivalents where money politics and scandal meet in brazil there is usually a camera somewhere nearby to take the pictures that will make any later profession of innocence ring hollow which brings up the second thing i find fascinating about the story of an american oil industry c.e.o. having his passport pulled in facing possible hard prison time for an oil spill and second that i find fascinating is that you can't find a story in any mainstream american media that really is our media not interested in
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investigating the corruption of our politicians but it will come to the point that they can kill eleven american oil rig workers and dump millions of barrels of oil in our coastline destroying the lives and livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of americans and small businesses but the media actually makes money from it. after all all those big contributions that b.p. gives to politicians they end up buying political commercials the run on american t.v. so surprised the b.b.c. is reporting big time about the american oil executive facing charges and all johns france press is covering it and of course it's huge news nationwide in brazil i challenge you to ask ten american friends if any of them even know this story exists something is rotten with our politics and our media and its root is a geyser of oil and oil money and the united states supreme court it is said that money is not property it's speech and that corporations aren't entities brought
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