tv [untitled] March 26, 2012 6:00pm-6:30pm EDT
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broken the law to show that the real headlines with none of the mersey are going live in washington d.c. now it's not going to host our monday hangover panel and speak about everything from health care making it to the supreme court the violent beating of an iraqi woman in california that ultimately led to her death and with his warnings for the economy that are today nuclear security summit is currently underway in south korea but rather than the nuclear nonproliferation everybody is focusing on
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a hot mike exchange between president obama and the days of and this weekend d.c. saw the largest secular secular gathering in world history so we can ask if we're getting to a better more open place when it comes to religion or of the religious battle here in the u.s. is only getting up we have all of that and more fee tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so it's a busy day in the news world and the mainstream media are trying to car cover all of their bases and squeeze it all it. nearly seven miles under the speed to the deepest point in the earth at the bottom of the mariana trench this supreme showdown health care reform on the docket this is the supreme showdown over the president's health care overhaul charged with seventeen counts of first degree murder after a killing spree in afghanistan former vice president dick cheney is recovering at
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a virginia hospital after a heart transplant this weekend to be returned to goldfinger lurie for tiger woods he won his first p.g.a. tour victory in the month one of the class used acts in the n.f.l. speaking now tim chivo rick santorum he wins louisiana sets its sights on wisconsin but lashes out at the press the new black panther party has offered a ten thousand dollars reward for a zimmerman's capture. our guys got to be honest admit that some of the stuff really doesn't deserve as much attention as it's getting specially not to m.t.v. you know i say it all the time and i will say it again there are entire sports channels out there dedicated to talking about this stuff twenty four seventh's why are actual news channels feel the need to do so much overlap that's a mystery to me especially when you compare the live streaming of the press conferences for to about the analysts that they bring on to talk about t.v. with the twenty seconds tops that they each spent on this other thing that's happening today. president obama in south korea says the u.s.
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has a moral obligation to reduce the world's nuclear stockpiles president obama warning north korea that any new provocative moves will only lead to further isolation president obama is in south korea right now for a global summit on how to secure the world's nuclear material and deal with the threat of nuclear terrorism. that's right there is a big international nuclear security summit going on in south korea a global gathering of leaders where they can cooperate on getting the world of nuclear weapons making sure that nuclear materials are secure i say that's kind of big deal the grand scheme of things considering the nuclear weapons of the deadliest thing we've ever created also kind of a big deal considering our current president the new start treaty there is talking about reducing our nuclear stockpiles even further historic events but i guess since this is a foreign policy issue and the summits happening in another country then why would our mainstream media bother covering it right now if the sad state of affairs if
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you ask me in a pretty good insight into why it is that foreign policy isn't exactly a strong point for so many americans that even includes people that are running or ran to be president of the united states i think everybody out there research mccain but also highlights a very obvious hypocrisy on the part of the media an area where you can start putting two and two together and realize that there is some kind of an agenda behind what they preach and i just think about what's going on with this move by north korea and the new leadership in john despite first agreeing to a nuke for food type of a deal with the u.s. they're now deciding to defiantly launch a satellite despite what the international community says and despite the fact that many believe this to be related to their nuclear ambitions and i'm not saying that we see as the reason as as a reason as to panic we see this kind of muscle flexing happen all the time but the mainstream media also hasn't decided that it's that big of a deal despite the fact that when it's iran and their possible nuclear ambitions that haven't been confirmed by any intelligence assessments that's when they
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completely freak out. defiant iran taunting the west iran is calling it a major achievement its nuclear program scientists have loaded nuclear fuel rods into the core of a research reactor tehran is fueling its centrifuges with nuclear fuel and that is stoking fears that the rogue state is indeed one step closer to. an atomic bomb is this another step potentially on a roan's road to potentially making nuclear weapons it is certainly a step down the road towards a nuclear weapon escalating nuclear tensions with iran this morning president mahmoud ahmadinejad is shown supposedly loading nuclear fuel rods into the tehran research reactor it is a huge source of pride for iran but should it be a source of worry for the west iran has blue stick missiles with a range of about one thousand miles obviously putting israel well within reach this is a ron doubling down on moving down the path towards
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a nuclear weapon. yeah we all know they're good at being the fierce fighting machine that beats the war drums especially when it comes to iran and why is it only a big deal when iran does it and there are clearly a million questions you could ask about that but there is something to be said for the painkiller predictability of the mainstream media and the officials who statements they regurgitate with a rarely an ounce of skepticism a real analysis to the world lawmakers the pundits the hired former generals that are on payrolls of defense contractors and they bring on the air their views mostly and challenge now there's a group of people out there who wants war with iran and they will profit from it and the mainstream media maybe unknowingly maybe willfully they play along but you can see how ridiculous it all is when you compare their non-reaction to some kind of news out of north korea and i'm not advocating they should be freaking out lord knows that we need less fear mongering in this world we can't point out why you shouldn't let them scare you with this overall nuclear summit because of the mainstream media is more concerned about kim tivo going to the jets than they are
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about security not something that they choose to miss. i well it's time for our monday hangover panel so it's only monday but that doesn't mean that anyone got a real break from the campaign the political horse race and the ugly and sad parts of our world over the weekend so we have a lot to discuss the supreme court is hearing arguments over the next three days to determine the fate of the obama administration's health care law and bernanke you point to inconsistency is in the labor market to warn us from getting too excited about recently improving jobs numbers and iraqi woman in san diego beaten to death left with a note saying go back to your country and calling her a terrorist so take your pain pills and let's get a gauge on what it all means. for the world.
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so here to discuss this with me is ari robin hobb executive vice president of media matters and co-author of the book the fox effect how roger ailes turned a network into a propaganda machine and soren dayton republican strategist and senior communications strategist media strategies so i want to thank you both for joining me tonight and ok so we're kind of all over the board but let's just start with health care because this is a big deal and i guess it's kind of a weird thing when you know when you have the supreme court actually give three days or maybe a total of six hours that's a historic thing forty five years it's been since they've done this but you know what's here what's your take on it so today they were deciding whether or not the supreme court should even take this at all whether they can rule on this issue because we haven't seen injunction actually take effect and they're saying that it doesn't count because they don't think of the tax they just think that it is a fee but how big of a deal is this really going to be look i think i'm not a lawyer so i can't do supreme court analysis and legal but is going i think this election but i think this is a test of our values where we stand as
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a country who we are do we want seventeen million children to be different. health insurance because of preexisting conditions you know those are the type of questions were answered right now so i'm going well i think that's not the question the court is going to face the question before congress or is going to be facing a question is it legal or is it constitutional to force someone to purchase insurance from a family and that is not at all clear all our country in the selection in past elections has to face that testing no matter what. no matter what the united states being great i mean look let's talk about what this means i mean in that sense for the election if this is. say that the individual mandate is unconstitutional what does that mean because when hand president obama as a candidate did support the individual mandate because as a constitutional law professor he probably there may be some issues of constitutionality with it but he didn't get a single payer this is also one of the biggest accomplishments of his administration and so who does he get to clean up as you go around congress and say
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they just didn't give me what i actually wanted i mean i think you could go either way in the election you could say it would be it would show his biggest his biggest triumph was a failure or you could say you just took away republicans biggest eating stick that they want to target him in the election so in terms of our politics you know it could go either way i think though the real question is does he run on our values as you say look my value was i want children to have health insurance i want the uninsured to have health insurance i'm making sure the kids under twenty five can still be on their parents' health insurance they want preexisting condition they want people to be restricted preexisting conditions they want lifetime caps they want to that's what problems want that's what democrats want this is a test of our values and i believe a proc obama stands up and does that when. i think that's not where obama took this debate you could have accomplished many of those same things actually in missouri a republican governor roy blunt or sorry excuse me now pushed through provision that actually raise the age of twenty seven the people could stay on their plans
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and that was with the complete support of the insurance industry and that was with democrats and republicans well past proved. very smoothly these things could have been done constructively or they could have been done on constitution he was struck if we were the republicans who decided not to debate not to engage and not to participate so the reasons being done constructively because the republican caucus in congress decided they're not going to engage in this because people like fox news said if you engage in this you're losing and that in the end was the problem with this debate from the start they were publicans refused to engage that mitt romney's getting hit in the republican primary for passing a good plan in massachusetts not a perfect plan but it did plan republicans made this type of republican media is toxic to their members and their members react so how do you tell the rest of the world that all americans not just democrats not just barack obama actually watch to have health insurance everybody wants children to have health insurance there's questions about this it's clear what you do about it and republicans have not done anything about it ever and that's the problem that's simply not true i just gave an example where a state did something well not to matter much at all and i'm sorry i was wrong i do
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you do you front of the economists than the federal government is you are not should we have there any fundamental values there are federal government nobody is questioning or a whole series of programs to provide this there are questions of thought chip can they flaws let me finish what we're normal whole series of programs to accomplish this the republicans today support and have tried a number of schemes to to expand or tried a number of schemes the regulatory schemes in some cases to make it easier to purchase insurance across state lines and a whole series of programs to lower the cost what we have here is something that will one raise the cost which now pretty much everybody agrees the c.e.o.'s that's an example last week was you know score said with the with high unemployment rates which is i guess i'm going to talk about it a little bit it's going to be over twice as expensive as was previously predicted and that's a that's a there's a serious debate here where our country and frankly most of the countries in the
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developed world don't know how they're going to pay their bills having creating. very nearly without telling me anything it's that despite three days of arguments at the supreme court just a year the congress actually spent coming up with the affordable care act this debate isn't going to get resolved after this ruling i want to move on to because where you know we don't see much time but so we've seen really the country start paying attention to the case of trayvon martin and we saw geraldo last week say that the hoodie was just as culpable for his death as george zimmerman was and now we have this really horrible story in the they're different you could say they both you know could fall into the category of a hate crime and this iraqi woman who's mother of five who's lived in the united states for twenty years. and she was found by her daughter the two of they finally took her off life support on saturday with a note and this is the second time that they've gotten this kind of note the basically said go back to your own country your terrorist i mean what do you think
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it says about where we are as a country that we have to like this happening is not going to be an isolated incident she's looking for twenty years but now you can't deny that islamophobia has taken on a different form it is probably. i hope all americans are mortified probably of her word or are shocked and offended and we all believe the there's lots of. fortunately there have been you know since nine eleven there has been a sharp up tick and firstly one of the things the i think everyone can agree george bush did an excellent job over was immediately trying to put a damper on. islamic sentiment and particularly you know we've come a long way from george bush saying that islam is a religion of peace at the same time if you watch fox news if you look at people like congressman peter king with all the hearings on muslim radicalization you know do you think about i am set up look i think there's been a lot of amping up from
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a lot of surfers of. is on the muslim paid. tree and i think it's really sad and i think hate crimes like this are a result of that kind of kind of amping up i absolutely have sore and this is a this is a hugely sad case and i think we just have to look at it as an individual thing and say this was this was a horrendously sad individual case but also speaks to a wider problem of kind of the acceptability of anti muslim bigotry in our society and hopefully nobody out there is going to by any means be supporting this or accepting this lastly i want to talk about ben bernanke either who. well he seems to be on a bit of a negative streak i guess you could say in the sense that he is telling everybody look at the economic indicators that we have in the recent unemployment reports jobs numbers that have been released and while there are some green shoots i guess you could say some positive things to look at he's telling everybody to kind of chill out and realize that this doesn't mean that things are going to get great very quickly and he also points out the inconsistency the fact that you know our
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overall growth economically is not there and at the same time we have these rising job figures and so he asked whether this is structure structural or and so i'm curious as to what you guys think it is do we just not have the demand right now is he right or do we have people that aren't trained properly for the jobs that need to be felt i think we have we have a few problems one ben bernanke he's always kind of pessimistic about these things he's not a risk taker so we should take his words in that context he was pretty big he's always pretty big. yes and he can't he he's got to be very anything he says can spike the market kill the market wasn't you big about telling students not to believe in the god that if you're going to go through it you know what i think we can all be for you contradicting ron paul so i think the issue is we do have fundamental structural economic problems in our country but things are getting better at the micro level at the moment you know we've seen twenty four straight months of private sector drop if you look at the bush administration to this point it was more than two point seven million jobs around two point seven million
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private sector jobs lost there were about two hundred forty seven thousand private sector jobs lost in obama the difference is under bush they were about seven hundred thousand public sector job gains and then obama there but six hundred thousand public sector job losses so the economy's getting better and you have fundamental structural problems that aren't getting dealt with but i think like many issues we need to rise above the politics or. you know i i think that there are a lot of structural things to be worried about the michigan chamber of commerce did a survey of their members and found that there's probably about five hundred thousand in. empty jobs. she'd be in a state with her effect on employment and it's had griffin going to point for years simply because people in manufacturing jobs are unemployed people that used to be in manufacturing jobs don't necessarily have the skills to fill those jobs now and that's one of those the structural issues that i got to wrap it up to and i thank you both thank you. thank you all right sorry for his great evening but when we come back obama and russian president making
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a gauge of get caught at an open mike at the nuclear summit in seoul south korea we're going to talk about the cliff that has republicans all across washington the happy dance. let's not forget that we heard in the park party for the other. leg i think the rock the beautiful one well. we never got the that says they're going to keep him safe get ready the computer the freedom. is eliminated what is. left in the loan is still there the real headline that none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from their viewers and what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why
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don't people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. . you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like sleep you think you understand it and then you've lived something else here's some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry is a big issue. so
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let's get back to the nuclear security summit that's under way in seoul south korea the two day affair was meant to focus on global cooperation nuclear nonproliferation keeping nuclear materials out of the hands of non-state actors however there have been a number of distractions first north korea's announcement to lodge a satellite into space despite international pressure which the u.s. and china have now agreed to have a coordinated response to if the launch goes through and second this hot mike exchange between president obama and russian president meeting in advance of discussing missile defense in europe caught on camera.
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so let's just say the republicans are up in arms about that exchange so here to discuss it all with me is troll rubin director of policy and government affairs at the national thank you so much for joining us here all day ok before we get into that clip right there overall when we have these and the nuclear security summit what's the point here so we haven't actually had some kind of agreements or anything written down on paper or is everyone just comes together and talks a lot it's actually a very innovative approach that the obama administration has pursued since two thousand ministration has secured highly enriched uranium from fifteen countries and that's more than was secured in the previous thirteen years the first summit so police here in washington listen to years ago over forty international leaders came together now there are sixty so it's creating political support movements and to secure these materials we should be very dangerous now do you think the north koreans kind of derailing the plans of the way they wanted this summit to go
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because you want to talk about you think nonproliferation right i know that obama was talking about taking out a salad a lot and how that is dealt a blow to al qaeda and that's helped us not have to worry as much about where these nuclear materials are and you want to talk about iran you want to talk about syria and then you have them. whatever kind of actor i guess you want to call it well north korea tends to like the spotlight and certainly it has made statements in the past week or so that really caused you concern here in washington and around the world a test of this variety our boys today just a few weeks ago said they would not do it clearly with all these leaders next door in south korea it's an opportune moment to highlight for them their edginess in their interest in keeping the international community aware of what they can do at the same time having this show of force with all the international commune. the who cares about this raid together with president obama but with leaders from across the world it's a show that what north korea is doing what they're trying to pursue. the u.s.
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president what he sort of you know action namely here that the u.s. and china have agreed to a court action if they can go ahead of this launch i mean they actually are a lot well military action does not seem to be on the table it's really a last resort issue that's not being contemplated but china has leverage inside north korea there's a leadership struggle underway right now it's not clear who's really calling the shots but china has inroads and can really influence the way that decisions are made because if this agreement that was made several weeks ago falls through and food aid is cut off it will create damage for the leadership inside north korea china doesn't want to see that they don't want to see any refugee flows over their border so they may engage more aggressively i don't want to talk about this this clip this mike little exchange that we saw between president paid if people are freaking out about it you know what he says basically when it comes to the issue of
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missile defense back down for a little while let's deal with this election and then i'll have more political leverage more politically way is that right but obviously it would be consistent with past american republican presidents republican presidents in their second terms ronald reagan in particular made major initiatives on nuclear weapons when they didn't have to face real action it's a consistent policy of what the president is looking to do and what's intriguing about his comments is it appears that he's trying to construct a deal he has a lot on this plate of nuclear weapons a new policy guidance and he's developing and how many weapons the u.s. will have he needs to constructed in a way that can work here in the u.s. that means getting russian agreement in certain areas the nuclear weapons as well so the fact that he's engaged in this is quite intriguing and demonstrates the seriousness in reducing the nuclear weapons he's engaging when it comes to. i guess you know engaging and continuing on the reset with russia trying to follow this path of what his plans are for a nuclear stockpiles of reducing not exactly engaging doesn't seem like the
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republican party right now john mccain mitt romney we saw a number of people from the house armed services committee as well coming out and attacking the president saying you know if something's going on here he has some kind of plans he hasn't told us about you know urgently we need a written explanation missile defense is a program that the republicans have held near and dear to their heart any changes to it would be very concerned about the administration recognizes that they've been engaging with republicans on capitol hill on missile defense aggressively and persistently but they're also talking to the russians about how to have information sharing of some variety how to create confidence in russia in the missile defense plan so that we can then move forward to future agreement so this should not be a surprise to the republicans on capitol hill but certainly when it comes out in this way it gives an opportunity for political point scoring but so you don't think about puts anything into jeopardy you know let's say the president does get
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reelected you know think about that's a new start in jeopardy or you know any other type of thing that's out there i think anyone who believes that the president is surprised that the president has made statements that he wants to reduce the number of nuclear weapons it clearly is not watching what he's been doing for the past several years including his nobel prize it doesn't feel anything new it just shows how determined he is to do this what happens the republican wins the election if a republican wins the election we're going to see a different policy where mitt romney rick santorum newt gingrich these candidates have a very different view about missile defense and about the role of nuclear weapons and national security ok so how much of that worry us right because you could say that right now at this summit of is calling so are the presidents of china and of south korea and so it's the last time these guys are all meeting last time obama is there to you know is everything up in the air because of that because the change that we. this is why the president set up structures in the nuclear security summit for instance is a structure that will hopefully continue into the future regardless of which
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president is there president bush created the proliferation security initiative this is also a nonproliferation agenda item that he had but no president obama has so the goal here is for the president to create structures that sustain regardless of who wins the election and i think we will see more of that i hope that works out joe thanks so much for joining us today. are you guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you too can you got some to say i listen now first i want to respond to if you would wash my interview with derek crowe on lockheed martin's a lobbying prowess the three one one one comment on you tube of law he didn't do all that lobbying some other company would come in and do the exact same thing don't hate the player hate the game and i certainly agree that the entire system is beyond screwed up there has been for
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a long time but that doesn't mean that some players in the system are worse offenders than others i think that's especially true for certain defense contractors were all companies are not created equal the former blackwater stands out an example of that to me so yes the entire system needs to be overhauled but that definitely doesn't mean that we're going to stop calling out the worst offenders and lockheed martin one of that next i want to respond with your other watched our interview with stephen webster on the n.s.a. chiefs denial of domestic spying to congress they've kroeger comments on facebook i always feel so much more secure when congress is grilling corporations and government agency heads about how they're violating individual privacy rights congress is of course the same as a touche in that regularly approves legislation that places all over the constitution so yeah i share your discomfort their congress is after all the body that has come together an unprecedented shows of bipartisanship. the patriot act and renew it over and over again also the body there through the fai's amendments and then renewed about when to do so no it's not very reassuring that congress is
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supposed to be a watchdog for our privacy but i'll still take a member of congress grilling the head of the n.s.a. over one not doing it it's hard to remember to take it with a grain of salt and not to be fooled and then finally we have to share the creation of three enterprising argy fans. at the alone a show look at me ben goodman and logan need made for monday's happy hour delish men can bake. continued hash tag so i was big guys very impressed and i think that there should be an alone to show the creation of the next that's at my ranting today but i'll be back with more as usual later in the week. our guys will take another short break but we're back on the revolving door between obama the obama administration and k. street and thousands of atheists but of the streets of washington d.c. this past weekend at the rally for recent talk one of the speakers that quick.
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