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tonight on our t.v. american politicians have had their share of ha's from ronald reagan's comments on bombing russia to george w. bush calling a reporter up word and now it's open mike night for president obama we'll tell you what he said the russian president medvedev that has some republicans all worked up . plus ten years after the terror attack that changed the face of the u.s. new yorker say the n.y.p.d. is doing its finest if i find they mean secretly monitoring the muslim and the liberal community and in some cases of forcing entrapment i'll tell you about the secret lives of the n.y.p.d. to get through to the dozen we're going to meet up with
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a hero got all but it's not pizza it's a vegetable or so says congress american lobbyists are supersizing their power over congress on letting their hunger for money dictate the laws we'll give you an example. well it's monday march twenty sixth my name's christine and you're watching our team. well president obama spent the weekend in south korea and while there he had a meeting with russian president dmitry medvedev yet tensions between the two countries have been a bit high lately between the difference of opinion regarding syria and of course those strong clashes over missile defense the two leaders clearly do have lots to discuss but it appears president obama wants to wait a bit before dealing with those issues here he is with medvedev and almost like a two man i had hoped their conversation might be kept
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a little more under wraps. our microphones were turned on take a listen. thank you all right so an acknowledgement here that should the president when the election which he seems to expect will happen then they can really get down to business even when the man is a writer and host of the progressive radio news hour hour he's in chicago and joins me to talk more about that so let's talk about first some of these issues between the u.s. and russia if president obama wins a second term what do you think is flexibility that he's asking for you know and what do you think working things out while i was actually meeting. well christine i think it's more of our you know what actually will ever been. ability america systematically whether it's george bush or
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a lot of the regular bill clinton america's american. readers that it makes russia. china knows that it's the so-called reset. under. the reset never really researched early in it live it knows of course who knows and election rolls eyes claim or obama claims well you know you had an election you have a new man coming you know we have a leg showing in november i hope to be a new state means thing you know but the idea of close ability i think it's nonsense kristie but some people are saying that you know should obama when it will mean you know critics of the president saying it will most likely mean more hostility towards israel and also regarding russia more accommodation to vladimir putin's russia what do you think about that. well the american media
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bashes knowledge you know that you're a you see what happens here television print media oh they really roughed him up last diseases and many of they like a little bit better but concerned about public coming in because he's got more backbone to stand up he would lose your it's i can hardly wait for him to take a look kristie. it should be very interesting but i always thought about microphones not being turned up as you know as you probably recall our t.v. viewers probably recall the most famous incident back in the one nine hundred eighty s. well when ronald reagan even the guy called still on the bus about bombing russia and. what do you think i mean do you think these guys really didn't know that their mikes return on probably they didn't know somebody slipped up if a somebody messing up on the teleprompter is a great. chatting i think i'd be
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a little bit more circumspect in the midst. of all world was listening to them and have a very up happens every now and then i was going to say that's not the first time it happened and not the first time it happened you know with president obama when it was not a quick reminder of another incident like that. and barack obama and nicolas sarkozy are now being quoted from a conversation they had about israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu the exchange was overheard at the g. twenty summit sarkozy reportedly said quote i can't stand him anymore he's a liar president obama then responded you may be sick of him but me i have to deal with him every day here on up to over the remarks at first agreed not to repeat them but the comments were published in israeli newspapers so certainly as we remember those comments i had a little a follow up to them do you what do you think about these these comments between obama and medvedev i mean what's really the result of. well really the result.
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i think. is really good a good american america has good in israel really with. a chat with the leaders i think he said goes pretty much with the other side. but that's not the usual kristie it was supposed to be to what extent will go along with what israel wants if the most. wants is really lucky. it isn't the only one. they take back the most. average and it is always better jim so you can go they can say a leader but all that was by the boards is. the is except the building is real and it's going to be a hundred percent just. israel also that's. well that's
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a connecting those dots and we talk about israel getting what it wants. you know there's a lot of sympathies that have happened recently between china and russia regarding syria and what should be done with that country which is to be done about the violence that's going on about. the regime of bashar al assad regime cannot manassas me in terms of that difference how major of an issue is that between us on one side and you know russia and china on the other side and i think i think there is a chasm of that christine russia and china absolutely do not want to lose the moral replicated in syria. and i'll be able go with a doorway if. nato begins bombs away will russia and china intervene as a big question i kick it around to write about it i consider it i hope that they would
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do something about it or i hope they would take enough action in advance to prevent it so just to lay down a realized and say this line would be crossed but look we all know christine obama professes to one peaceful resolution in syria he goes along suppose we would be another way for peace negotiations the non-binding presidential statement from the security council which passed but i wrote an article about it called a worrisome because it says if assad doesn't go a lot further measures will happen unspecified very very worrisome. but. what's concerning is here obama is saying one thing and it's doing it the headlines today obama is supplying one button lethal aid to syria's opposition what does that include include communication equipment communication for a good way to coordinate attacks to check with the with the what is enough
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internally in in washington dear i see so washington so washington obama saying one thing doing in those states else. in saudi arabia in turkey in jordan or in history of. if you will if your position it was. well we will of course keep our eyes especially specifically on the relationship between the u.s. and russia certainly an interesting exchange over the weekend between the two leaders the eleven writer and host of the progressive radio news hour. so let's turn now to have a closer look at the surveillance programs put on by the new york police department to try to get more information to quote keep the city safe from terrorism now oftentimes this means a law enforcement officers are sent into mosques not just in new york but around the country to try to find out more information about what's being discussed there to see if terrorist related activity is being planned but oftentimes what's ended
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up happening is that quite a few innocent muslims have been targeted information about where they shop about businesses they own is recorded and lots of people are starting to look at this program and say you know what in a lot of cases what's going on here is entrapment trying to get people to take part in or help plan things to then turn around and arrest them so a whole lot of new yorkers actually don't see a problem with this when asked in a recent survey if the n.y.p.d. has been affective in combat in terrorism eighty two percent of people say yes fourteen percent say no this is a study by quinnipiac university another question do you think the n.y.p.d. has unfairly targeted muslims to combat terrorism thirty eight percent say no they haven't been unfairly targeted and just twenty nine percent say yes so i want to talk about this a little more with windows are soar and executive director of the arab american association in new york hey there linda talk to me about first of all these numbers
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clearly we've heard about what's happening about undercover people going into these mosques and yet the city says they're doing a great job is this simply because we haven't seen more terrorism related activity on a large scale happen there. i think the numbers of the quinnipiac survey actually were there were only nine hundred eighty four people that were surveyed in a in a very large city like new york city where there are at least ten million new yorkers i think it's a skewed survey but also i want to say about the supposed terra plots that have been foiled by the n.y.p.d. and they continue to boast that there have been hasn't been another nine eleven and i think that also goals of up a partnership between the n.y.p.d. and the muslim american community for example the times square bomber based on the first call that wanted the nine one one was a senegalese muslim street vendor so i think the n.y.p.d. is nice i think about their relationship with the muslim community and how that in itself can help to counter radicalization as well as terrorism but in terms of some
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of these programs and i mean is what's going on here actually legal. i believe wholeheartedly that the blanket surveillance of an entire community based specifically on religion is absolutely illegal we have that in the d.o.j. guidelines that an entire community cannot be profiled and there's a lot of racial profiling laws rules on the federal and local level so the n.y.p.d. says well no no we're not exactly. on communities what we're doing is we're following leads and up until today commissioner kelly of the police department as well as mayor michael bloomberg have not been able to tell us what those needs are the documents and a secret documents bored out by the a.p. are only showing us that the reason why we're being surveilled is because we are muslim they are muslim owned businesses muslim communities muslim community center is an islamic centers i think it's really interesting that you bring up some of these investigations by the associated press they've really stayed on this story the a.p. of course very far reaching and police commissioner their new your in new york ray
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kelly has kind of turned it around saying well it's the a.p. scott because they're targeting us and so he's trying to spin this and saying the police department being targeted by the a.p. as opposed to what the a.p. is saying that's going on which is that police are in a widespread way targeting. communities. there's also a crisis has no relationship to the community there would be no reason for them there are journalists there basically providing a poor investigative report based on secret documents that were leaked to them from the n.y.p.d. so they are reporters there are putting out information for new yorkers people in the united states and even internationally to make their own judgments about commissioner kelly and the n.y.p.d. and i remember the n.y.p.d. has been attacked by many communities not just by the muslim community they've been attacked by occupy wall street purplish brutality they've been by the african-american community and the latino community in the united states in new york specifically obviously on stop and frisk i mean this is not the first time
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commissioner kelly has come under attack for a police tactic someone you know that the n.y.p.d. if it were an army is the largest must have at large our army in the world and we need to make sure that someone's watching over the n.y.p.d. as they are infiltrating and spying on the northeast some particular on a muslim american community yeah i think it's really interesting to say it isn't just a muslim american community is the study found that the n.y.p.d. is actually recently been doing this with the city's liberals a lot of times sending undercover police officers in to collect information at meetings of peaceful liberal activists and so what we're finding out is they're taking information from these meetings creating databases on leaders and you know where these next protests are planned across the country do you think this is new i mean protests have gone some of the major ones in the sixty's do you think that this is this program to surveil them is new or has it been going on and it just hasn't been reported on. this surveillance that the n.y.p.d.
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is conducting is not new at all i mean we were calling it quote intel pro two point zero and we know that the surveillance of political groups and that's why the handful guidelines were created back in the seventy's on the. founder of the new york civil liberties union filed that that original. last two out we know that this is the united states of america people come here for political freedom and for us to be able to express ourselves and to have a public assembly and to hash the actions you know that are used that aren't is kind of suppressing that right that we have in this country is what's really shocking to me as a person who was born and raised the united states and should be something that's shocking to every american every new yorker and anyone around the country who looks at the united states as a representative or as an example of what freedom and democracy is have you noticed an impact in terms of people that you associate with people in the muslim community in terms of trust i mean in terms of trusting one another even has there been
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anything noticeable that people are discussing in terms of being able to really know and understand who you're talking to. oh absolutely my organization is located in the largest ever american community in the state of new york in southwest brooklyn and just hearing the conversation is that right praying at your own mosque you don't even know if the guy next to you is in armitt but the more shocking the more chilling is the student associations muslim american students who we hope are encouraged to become active in community service on their college campuses are like worried about what types of events they're going to have you know what should they say they talk about politics they have political events this should not come out of the mouths of american college students in this country and listening to how our community feels isolated an alienated and feels like the n.y.p.d. does not see us as a partner but as a suspicious group and we just learned recently what suspicious or someone under suspicion could then and then happened which is like trayvon martin suspicious for
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walking while black get shot and the entire muslim community and you as a muslim are being put on the spot as someone who is a suspicious just based simply on the fact that my religion and that we share a religion with one thousand high jackers who killed innocent americans on nine eleven all right well we certainly appreciate you weighing in here giving us that perspective from inside the community as you say there are certainly so many people there in new york city who are dealing with us from one side or the other lenders are sore executive director for the arab american association of york. well the u.s. government is working hard trying to crack the code of the code cracker crackers and you might remember earlier this month some of the leaders of the group a low security are also arrested ours lou thanks to one former leader from law psych who turned into an f.b.i. informant well guess what there's a whole lot of talk that those arrests are going to have very little effect especially in light of a video that came out last week at announcement that will suck is still very much
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alive and kicking in the video and they say they plan to sail toward the into webs once again much to the dismay of what they call a corrupt government here's part of that announcement it's ridiculous to believe that's going to respin the sixty parliamentarism old system but you have support us and you have enough stockholders you have this rescue operation that started the first two thousand of this problem and started talking to you governor with corporations and sisters i'm twenty one also of legal people watching this. so a lot of people are wondering if twenty twelve will see as many hacks as twenty eleven in which of the one hundred seventy seven million records stolen by hackers one hundred million were actually taken by hacktivists now earlier i spoke about this with great house and internet activism the c.e.o. of the local se company i asked him to explain these numbers. well the numbers are
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quite large both but one thing i think away from the numbers is that there's no security out there that all these are facts are happening and it seems to be that in five minutes and you have the even knowledge all the way through you know hardcore hackers can get into anything that's right take away from it i know another group was attacked by anonymous recently that the vatican web site including recently some of the web sites in mexico now from what i understand the pope just visited going to what the city with ninety four percent roman catholic population anonymous seems to be angry about all the money spent on the pope that they say should have been spent on the poor people in that country it was also protesting for national action party in light of a lot of shin's beginning their talk about this isn't just hackers as you say there's little security and that's becoming proven but with the hacktivist movement it's hackers with a message people that want to get messages across what do you think that means who
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wins out and who loses out when we have this happen. well you know i'll speak to the idea that hacktivism is is a form of political speech here you know when you look at what's actually going on anywhere on roll call the site of a site can bring up an idea you know the fact that fifty million dollars was spent on the pope's visit. is kind of bad when you're talking about all the people that are starving and looking for food and you know home and shelter and it's that money should have been spent to help the people so the people in anonymous the people most secure you know those types can go to the press and talk about it and it doesn't get reported then they go and happen website i do a denial of service and everything they wanted to say gets said and that seems to be the point here of a lot of the activism is that it's the only way to get their real news they wanted to actually be talked about and i know a business insider just actually came out with an article they filed
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a freedom of and from asian requests and got some information they discovered that the department of homeland security has actually been tracking the occupy wall street movement even long before it ever started and that a big reason for that was the involvement of anonymous in helping to organize these protests i'm wondering first of all how much of a role do you think anonymous has played in occupy wall street and to what extent do you think movements like this will actually make them vulnerable to government involvement. they played a pretty big role you know when you look at adbusters first putting out the call for this protest in wall street there wasn't much pick up very few news organizations actually covered it and then someone arms found it and the second anonymous decided to talk about it everyone in the news out there decided oh this is news we have to cover it and then thousands of people showed up you know i think anonymous played an interesting role almost as the p.r. agent for it you know that they brought a lot of the eyeballs and in the end they also played
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a very technical role you know just in the boston one alone but i went down to and i had a part in they help get the internet up and operational they made sure that there was electricity provided you know they did a lot of interesting technical stuff that the movie needed but what about you know people who are associated and affiliated with anonymous i mean i think it seems to me that one of the plans by some of these government agencies seems to be you know send people undercover try to get them involved with groups like anonymous so they can learn more and sort of i guess crack their code. absolutely you know one of the things you have to assume if you go on to either interact with or just observe are not amiss and you know there are you know there chat systems like the i.o.c. charts and they use is that is least one person in every big channel it's not multiple people in those channels are federal agents you know from our government or european governments or asian governments or who knows where they happen to be from. there's going to be one they're watching and blocking everything because it's
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so you just have to assume that that's the i want to go back to something that you said earlier about security in this country and how really nothing is secure any longer but a big announcement just came down from microsoft in the last couple days apparently they've been working together with a couple other organizations as well as u.s. marshals and they were able to disrupt the zeus bot net system now this was a large network of infected computers that had credit card information other personal data of the servers that linked back to offices in pennsylvania and illinois. so this is a big announcement a big victory for microsoft it could prevent millions of people from having their information stolen but some people are saying you know what these people with microsoft in the u.s. marshals are the same people who are spying on you now they're simply using those by capabilities to get the bad guys to great what's your take on all of this. it's an interesting one you know it's some point if feels really weird commending microsoft on something you know they've always been sort of i don't say the enemy
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but on the other side of a lot of these arguments the work they're doing there really needs to be done and used to be done on a far greater scale are getting rid of a lot of these. i think the one thing everyone is missing is the fact that they need to be attacking this more at home i mean these products are made up of windows machines because windows is so unbelievably unsecured you know we would have as a bigger problem if they cared much about the security of their operating system so we have got to go on you know one of the other more interesting things you find out talking in these more security related kind of chat channels where all these people really care about this type of stuff is a lot of them would love just once to go up against a website that they were trying to get the data from and not be able to get in just for once to see that some security measures were actually taken that there's someone competent on what you might call the other side of this battle. if you don't just say i mean i think it's a really good point because when you look at some of the we were going through for a while i know that anonymous at least had
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a program that every friday if he were sort of attacking different government websites different major websites and the fact that they can get into you know the nasa website the department of homeland security these are places where you think they'd have some of the best of the best working and i mean what do you think it says that they're not able to deal with combat and i'm. it's worse than you think in fact that all that was used to get into those sites was an automated tool that anyone in the security field can buy or cheap we're talking under two hundred dollars with lifetime updates that's all you pointed at a website and wait until it gets you in so you could have actually done this i just visiting this web site and downloaded just a little it's that easy and what it says is that they're not doing the amount of work they need to do on their security you know some very very simple security measures would have stopped most of those hacks what's the likelihood greg briefly of anonymous actually being kind of their network sort of being dismantled by the
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government eventually it's just not it's just not a capability they have a network doesn't really exist all right so many track ever but we do appreciate you speaking to us i know a lot of this stuff is over my head so it's nice to have it broken down a little simple terms greg house internet activist and c.e.o. of local f.b.o. company all right let's switch gears now and talk about obesity it has been a major problem for many children across this country and while quite a few people do spend time looking for solutions the government stands accused of turning a blind eye to a trend that's causing diabetes and heart disease but both profit for giant from corporations argue correspondent kareen important has more. it's a super sized crisis impossible for america to disguise an insatiable love for food and big portions has served up a nationwide majority of overweight children and none of us wants this future for
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our kids as first lady michelle obama attempts to tackle the epidemic by advocating more exercise healthy eating and penning a book about the white house garden u.s. lawmakers are getting kudos for stirring the how problem. which i applaud and. fear will go nowhere given the allure of. the recent decision by the congress to say peter was a vegetable you heard correctly the greasy cheesy cheap meal known as pizza is served as a lunch table to thirty two million public school children how because u.s. department of agriculture guidelines all of two tablespoons of tomato paste as an official they do serve in november u.s. congress rejected a request from the department that would have changed requirements and alternately removed from school menus congress has really shown who controls them and that's
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the big corporations and the big food corporations companies like. these are the makers of the is frozen pizza and they have huge financial interest in that obviously we're going to publish reports food companies spend five point six billion dollars this year lobbying specifically to keep pizza firmly u.s.d.a. guidelines in place this social consequence of overweight kids has millions currently battling diabetes and millions more vulnerable to heart disease and shortened life expectancy that one in three children are obese or overweight in this country one in five four year olds are over actually which is astounding and the fact that. is not willing to change the food policy in our school cafeterias to benefit the health of our children is really appalling granted issues such as proper control and obesity are not new problems for america but over the years
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a hunger for profits has compromised the health of an entire generation the u.s. department of defense says twenty five percent of young americans are too overweight to join the military and epidemic is so bad that experts say it writes its national security. our short but quite totally unscientific poll found americans picking logic over the world of their lawmakers pizza. it doesn't work at the minute. we took it was serious or it's. not that's what it's like this much. that's what the nutritional value in this. material.
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