tv [untitled] March 27, 2012 2:00pm-2:30pm EDT
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it's of story smart see a ten here moscow time guarantees for an arms race a clear choice is delivered by deferring to big brother to washington over its missile defense system in europe that says the russian president summed up the results of the nuclear summit in seoul. also it's not the same it's a gender that grabbed the media's attention and triggered a storm on capitol hill but a conversation between obama and medvedev which wasn't supposed to go public. and the syrian government says yes to call finance peace plan for a negotiated end to the bloody conflict as coralie opposition leaders seek a unified front against the assad regime i'm kevin owen here in moscow let's note
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of those studios in washington d.c. for an hour in the company of a loan to show. welcome to the alone a show of the real headlines with none of the mersey working a lot of washington d.c. now and i are going to host our monday hangover panel and speak about everything from health care making it to the supreme court the violent beating of an iraqi woman in california that ultimately led to her death and his warnings for the economy that are today nuclear security summit is currently underway in south korea but rather than the nuclear nonproliferation i raised focusing on a hot mike exchange between president obama and the data and this weekend d.c. saw the largest secular gathering in world history so we can ask if we're getting
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to a better more open place when it comes to religion or if the religious battle here in the u.s. is only getting up at all of that morphia tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. all right so it's a busy day in the news world and the mainstream media they're trying to car cover all of their bases and squeeze it all it. nearly seven miles under the speed of the deepest point in the earth at the bottom of the very on the trench this supreme showdown health care reform on the docket this is an epic supreme showdown over the president's health care overhaul charged with seventeen counts of first degree murder after a killing spree in afghanistan former vice president dick cheney is recovering at a virginia hospital after a heart transplant this weekend to be returned to goldfinger lawry for tiger woods he won his first p.g.a.
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tour victory in the leading minds one of the class used acts in the n.f.l. speaking now to rick santorum he wins louisiana sets aside from wisconsin but lashes out at the press the new black panther party has offered a ten thousand dollars reward for zimmerman's capture. our guys got to be honest admit that some of the stuff really doesn't deserve as much attention as it's getting pressure not to go you know i say it all the time and i will say it again there are entire sports channels out there dedicated to talking about this stuff twenty four seventh's where actual news channels feel the need to do so much overlap that's a mystery to me especially when you compare the live streaming of the press conferences for to tivo the analysts they bring on to talk about what the twenty seconds tops they each spent on this other thing that's happening today. president obama in south korea says the u.s. has a moral obligation to reduce the world's nuclear stockpiles president obama warning north korea that any new provocative moves will only lead to further isolation
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president obama is in south korea right now for a global summit on how to secure the world's nuclear material and deal with the threat of nuclear terrorism. that's right there is a big international nuclear security summit going on in south korea a global gathering of leaders where they can cooperate on ridding the world of nuclear weapons making sure that nuclear materials are secure i say that's kind of big deal the grand scheme of things considering the nuclear weapons of the deadliest thing we've ever created also kind of a big deal considering that our current president the new start treaty through is talking about reducing our nuclear stockpiles even further historic events but i guess since this is a foreign policy issue and some it's happening in another country then why would our mainstream media bother covering it right now that's a sad state of affairs if you ask me a pretty good insight into why it is that foreign policy isn't exactly a strong point for so many americans even includes people that are running or ran
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to be president of the united states i think everybody out there members herman cain but also highlights a very obvious hypocrisy on the part of the media an area where you can start putting two and two together and realize that there is some kind of agenda behind what they preach and i just think about what's going on with this move by north korea and the new leadership despite first agreeing to a nukes for food type of a deal with the u.s. they're now deciding to defiantly launch a satellite despite what the international community says and despite the fact that many believe this be related to their nuclear ambitions and i'm not saying that we see this as a reason as for a reason as to panic we see this kind of muscle flexing happen all the time but the mainstream media also hasn't decided that it's that big of a deal to spite the fact that when it's iran and their possible nuclear ambitions that haven't been confirmed by any intelligence assessments that's when they completely freak out. defiant iran taunting the west iran is calling it
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a major achievement its nuclear program scientists have loaded nuclear fuel rods into the core of a research reactor tehran is fueling its centrifuges with nuclear fuel and that is stoking fears that the rogue state is indeed one step closer to. an atomic bomb is this another step potentially on the roads road to potentially making nuclear weapons that is certainly a step down the road towards a nuclear weapon escalating nuclear tensions with iran this morning president mahmoud ahmadinejad is shown supposedly loading nuclear fuel rods into the tehran research reactor it is a huge source of pride for iran but should it be a source of worry for the west or ran as ballistic missiles with a range of about one thousand miles obviously putting israel well within reach this is a ron doubling down moving down the path towards a nuclear weapon. yeah we all know they're good at being a fierce fighting machine it beats the war drums especially when it comes to iran
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and why is it only a big deal when iran does it now there are clearly a million questions you could ask about that but there is something to be said but he painful predictability of the mainstream media and the officials his statements they regurgitate with a rarely an ounce of skepticism a real analysis of the war out lawmakers the pundits the hired former generals that are on payrolls of defense contractors and they bring on the air their views mostly and challenge how there's a group of people out there wants war with iran and that will profit from it and the mainstream media may be undergoing lee maybe willfully they play along but you can see how ridiculous it all is when you compare their non-reaction to some kind of news out of north korea i'm not advocating they should be freaking out lord knows that we need less fear mongering in this world we've got to point out why you shouldn't let them scare you as for this overall nuclear summit is that the mainstream media is more concerned about then tivo going to the jets than they are about increased security not something that they choose to miss.
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i well it's time for our monday hangover panel not only monday but that doesn't mean that anyone got a break from the campaign the political horse race and ugly and sad parts of our world of the week and so we have a lot to discuss the supreme court is hearing arguments over the next three days to determine the fate of the obama administration's health care law and burn eighty points in consistency from the labor market to warn us from getting too excited about recently improving jobs numbers and a rocky woman in san diego beaten to death left with a note saying go back to your country and calling her a terrorist so take your pain pills and let's get a gauge on what it all means. for the. right so here to discuss this with me is ari robin hobb executive vice president of media matters and co-author of the book the fox effect how roger ailes turned
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a network into a propaganda machine and soren dayton republican strategist and senior communications strategist media strategies i want to thank you both for joining me tonight and ok so we're kind of all over the board but let's just start with health care because this is a big deal and i guess it's kind of a weird thing when you know when you have the supreme court actually give three days or maybe a total of six hours that's a historic thing forty five years it's been since they've done this but you know what's here what's your take on this since they were deciding whether or not the supreme court should even take this at all whether they can rule on this issue because we haven't seen injunction actually take effect then they're saying that it doesn't count because they don't think it's a tax they just think that it is a fee but how big of a deal is this really going to be look i think i'm not a lawyer so i can't do supreme court analysis a legal gut is going to think you election but i think this is a test of our values where we stand as a country who we are do we want seventeen million children to be restricted from. health insurance because of preexisting conditions you know those are the type of
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questions were answered right now so i'm ready but i think that's not the question the court is going to face that's a question maybe for congress or it is going to be facing a question of is it legal or is it constitutional to force someone to purchase insurance from a health insurance i mean that is not at all clear all our country in this election in past elections has to face that test and no matter what we're talking with. no matter what democracy is being graded i mean let's talk about what this means i mean in that sense for the election if this supreme court has go ahead and say that the individual mandate is unconstitutional what does that mean because i one hand president obama as a candidate did support the individual mandate because as a constitutional law professor he thought that there might be some issues of constitutionality with it but he didn't get a single payer this is also one of the biggest accomplishments of his administration and so who does he get blamed if you blame it on congress and say they just didn't give me what i actually wanted i mean i think you could go either way in the election you could say it would be it would show his biggest his biggest
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triumph was a failure or you could say you just took away republicans just beating stick that they want to target him in the election so in terms of our politics you know it could go either way i think though the real question is does he run on our values does he say look my value was i want children to have health insurance i want the uninsured have health insurance i'm making sure that kids under twenty five can still be on their parents' health insurance they want preexisting condition they want people to be restricted preexisting conditions they want lifetime caps they want to that's what republicans want that's what democrats want this is a test or a value and i believe a proc obama stands up and does that when. i think that's not where obama took this debate you could have accomplished many of those same things actually in. a republican governor or sorry excuse me what pushed through provision that actually raise the age of twenty seven the people could stay on their plans and that was with the complete support of the insurance industry and that was with democrats and republicans all passed through. very smoothly these things could have been done
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constructively or they could have been done in consultation with me in the truck if we were the republicans who decided not to debate not to engage and not to participate so the reason it's being done constructively is because the republican caucus in congress decided we're very not going to engage in this because people like fox news said if you engage in this you're losing and that in the end was the problem with this debate from the start they were publicans refuse to engage that mitt romney's getting hit in the republican primary for passing a good plan in massachusetts not a perfect plan but a good plan republicans made this type of republican media made this toxic to their members and their members react so how do you tell the rest of the world that all americans not just democrats not just barack obama actually want children to have health insurance everybody wants children to have health insurance those questions ability to do what you do about it and republicans have not done anything about it ever and that's the problem that's simply not true i just gave an example where a state did something. that all and i'm sorry i was wrong do you think you should have been with all this stand up better all government issue or not should we have thirty fundamental values are held by our federal government nobody is questioning
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a whole series of programs to provide this very question chip can they flaws let me finish when there was a whole series of programs to accomplish this that republicans today support and have tried a number of seems to to expand to try a number of schemes the regulatory schemes in some cases to make it easier to purchase insurance across state lines and a whole series of programs to lower the cost what we have here is something that will lower and raise the cost which now pretty much everybody agrees the c.e.o.'s score that's an exam last week and this c.p.o. score said with the with higher unemployment rates which is i guess what i'm going to talk about a little bit it's going to be over twice as expensive as was previously predicted and that's it that's there's a serious debate here where our country and frankly most of the countries in the developed world don't know how they're going to pay their bills having creating. very nearly without telling me anything it's that despite three days of arguments
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at the supreme court just might be a year that congress actually spent coming up with the affordable care act this debate isn't going to get resolved after after this ruling i want to move on to you because where you know we don't have too much time but so we've seen it really because start paying attention to the case of trayvon martin and we saw geraldo last week say that the hoodie was just as culpable for his death as george zimmerman was and now we have this really horrible story and they're different you could say they both you know could fall into the category of a hate crime and that's a rocky woman who's mother of five who's lived in the united states for twenty years. and she was found by her daughter beaten to a pulp they finally took her off life support on saturday with a note and this is the second time a big gotten this kind of note that basically said go back to your own country your a terrorist i mean what do you think it says about where we are as a country that we have things like this happen is that going to be an isolated
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incident she's lived here for twenty years but now you can't deny that islamophobia has taken on a different form it is probably. i hope all americans. are shocked and offended and we all believe that there's less unfortunately there have been you know since nine eleven there has been a sharp and frankly one of the things the i think everyone can agree george bush did an excellent job of was immediately trying to put a damper on. islamic sentiment in particular yet we've come a long way from george bush saying that islam is a religion of peace at this same time if you watch fox news if you look at people like congressman peter king who's holding hearings on muslim radicalization you know if you think about that up look i think there's been a lot of amping up from a lot of sectors of. islamophobia anti muslim big. tree and i think it's really sad and i think hate crimes like this are
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a result of that kind of of that kind of an absolute group of soren this is a sad this is a hugely sad case and i think we just have to look at it as an individual thing and say this was this was a horrendously sad individual case but also speaks to a wider problem of kind of the acceptability of anti muslim bigotry or so and hopefully nobody out there is going to be supporting this or accepting as lastly i want to talk about ben bernanke he who. well he seems to be on a bit of a negative streak i guess you could say in the sense that he is telling everybody look at the economic indicators that we have the recent unemployment reports jobs numbers that have been released and while there are some green shoots i guess you could say some positive things to look at he's telling everybody to kind of chill out and realize that this doesn't mean that things are going to get great very quickly and he also points out the inconsistency in the fact that you know our overall growth economically is not there and at the same time we have these rising job figures and so he asked whether it is
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a structural structural or think local and so i'm curious as to what you guys think it is do we just not have the demand right now is he right or do we have people that aren't trained properly for the jobs that need to be filled i think we have we have a few problems one ben bernanke he's always kind of pessimistic about these things he's not a risk taker so we should take his words in that context you know it's pretty big he's always pretty big. yes and he can't he he's got to be vague because anything he says can spike the market kill the market i think you gave out telling students not to believe in a god and if you're going to get through it you're but i think we can all be very good contradicting ron paul so i think the issue is we do have fundamental structural economic problems in our country but things are getting better at the micro level at the moment you know we've seen twenty four straight months of private sector job growth if you look at the bush administration to this point there were more than two point seven million jobs around two point seven million private sector jobs lost here about two hundred forty seven thousand private sector jobs lost in obama the difference is under bush there are about seven hundred
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thousand public sector job gains and then obama there and six hundred thousand public sector job losses so you can he's getting better we do have fundamental structural problems that aren't getting dealt with but i think like many issues we need to rise above the politics are so you know i i think that there are a lot of structural things to be worried about the michigan chamber of commerce the survey of their members and found that there's probably about five hundred thousand in. empty jobs in. she'd be in a state with her if the economy pointed and had proof of unemployment for years simply because people in manufacturing jobs are unemployed people that used to be manufacturing jobs don't necessarily have the skills to fill those jobs now and that's one of those the structures that is i got to. thank you both for your. time for our first break in the evening but when we come back the russian president making i caught an open mike at the new place on that insult south korea we're going to talk about a clip that has republicans all across washington happy to. elude
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illegal. so let's get back to the nuclear security summit that's under way in seoul south korea the two day affair was meant to focus on global cooperation nuclear nonproliferation keeping nuclear materials out of the hands of non-state actors however there have been a number of just reactions first north korea's announcement to launch a satellite into space despite international pressure which the u.s. and china have now agreed to have a coordinated response to if the launch goes through and second this hot mike exchange between president obama and russian president meeting with dative discussing missile defense in europe caught on camera. let's just say the republicans are up in arms about that exchange so here to
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discuss it all with me is troll ruben director of policy and government affairs happen. thank you so much for joining us for all that here ok before we get into you that clip right there overall when we have these and on your security what's the point here we have are actually get some kind of agreements or anything written down on paper or everyone just comes together and talks a lot is actually very innovative approach that the obama administration has pursued since two thousand and nine just ministration is secured highly enriched uranium from fifteen countries and that's more than was secured in the previous thirteen years the first summit took place here in washington listen to years ago over forty international leaders came together now there are sixty so it's creating political support and momentum to secure these materials which can be very dangerous now do you think that north korea's kind of derailing the plans of the way they wanted this summit to go because you want to talk about nuclear nonproliferation right now that obama was talking about taking out a salad bin laden and how that is dealt a blow to al qaida and that's helped us not have to worry as much about where these
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nuclear materials are and you want to talk about iran you want to talk about syria and then you have. whatever kind of actor i guess you want to call it well north korea tends to like the spotlight and certainly it has made statements in the past week or so that really caused you concern here in washington and around the world tests of this variety are was just a few weeks ago said they would not say you clearly with all of these leaders next door in south korea it's an opportune moment to highlight for them. in their interest in keeping the international community aware of what they can do at the same time having to show force with all the international commune. who cares about this together with president obama but with leaders from across the world it's a show that north korea is doing what they're trying to pursue will stand us the president when he sort of you know action mean we hear that the u.s. and china have a breach of course if they do go ahead of us launch it mean actually in our wow
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well military action does not seem to be on the table it's really a last resort issue that's not being contemplated but china has leverage inside north korea there's a leadership struggle underway right now it's not clear who's really calling the shots but china has and can really influence the way that decisions are made because if this agreement that was made several weeks ago falls through and the food is cut off it will create damage for the leadership inside north korea china doesn't want to see that they don't want to see any refugee flows over their border so they may engage more aggressively i don't want to talk about this this clip this little exchange that we saw between president made if people are freaking out about it you know what he says basically when it comes to the issue of missile defense back down for a little while let's deal with this election and then i'll have more political leverage more politically way i mean it's not right but obvious it would be
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consistent with past american republican presidents all republican presidents in their second terms ronald reagan in particular made major initiatives on nuclear weapons when they didn't have to face reelection it's a consistent policy but what the president is looking to do and what's intriguing about his comments is it appears that he's trying to construct a deal he has a lot on his plate on nuclear weapons a new policy guidance of these developing on how many weapons the u.s. will have he needs to construct it in a way that can work here in the u.s. that means getting russian agreement in certain areas and nuclear weapons as well so the fact that he's engaging in this is quite intriguing and demonstrates the seriousness in reducing the nuclear weapons he's engaging when it comes to. i guess you know engaging and continuing on the reset with russia trying to follow down this path of what his plans are for a nuclear stockpiles and reducing that not exactly engaging it doesn't seem like the republican party right now and we saw john mccain we saw mitt romney we saw a number of people from the house armed services committee as well coming out and
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attacking the president saying you know if something's going on here he has some kind of plans he hasn't told us about you know urgently we need a written explanation missile defense program that the republicans have held near and dear to their heart any changes to it would be very concerned about the administration recognizes that they have been engaging with the republicans on capitol hill on missile defense aggressively and persistently but they're also talking to the russians about how to have information sharing of some friday how to create confidence in russia in the missile defense so that we can then move forward to future agreement so this should not be a surprise to the republicans on capitol hill but certainly when it comes out in this way it gives an opportunity for political point scoring but so you don't think that with anything in jeopardy you know let's say that the president does get reelected you don't think that that's a new start jeopardy or you know any other type of agreements out there i think anyone who believes that the president he's surprised that the president has made
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statements that he wants to reduce the number of nuclear weapons it clearly is not watching what he's been doing for the us several years including his nobel prize it doesn't unveil anything new it just shows how determined he is to do this what happens if a republican wins the election if a republican wins the election we're going to see a different policy where mitt romney rick santorum newt gingrich these candidates have a very different view about missile defense and about the role of nuclear weapons and national security ok so how much that worry us right because you could say that right now at this summit of is out going so are the presidents of china and of south korea and so it's the last time these guys are all meeting and i can last thing obama is there to you know is everything up in the air because of that because of change the. this is why the president set up structures in the nuclear security summit for instance is a structure that will hopefully continue into the future we're garbus which president is there president bush created the proliferation security initiative this is also not really for asian agenda item that he had no president obama has so
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the goal here is for the president to create structures that sustain regardless of who wins the election and i think we will see more of that i hope that works out helping so much for joining us to make you and. our guys it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging the work comments from facebook twitter and you too and you've got some to say i listen now person i want to respond to if you would watch my interview with jared crowe on lockheed martin's a lobbying prowess the three one one one commenter on you tube of law he didn't do all that lobbying some other company would come in and do the exact same thing don't hate the player hate the game and i certainly agree that the entire system is beyond screwed up as been for a long time but that doesn't mean that some players in the system aren't worse offenders than others i think that's especially true for certain defense contractors were all companies are not created equal the former blackwater stands
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out an example of that to me so yes the entire system needs to be overhauled but i definitely doesn't mean that we're going to stop calling out the worst offenders martin one of the next i want to respond with you are the washed our interview with raw stories even web search on the n.s.a. chief's denial of domestic spying to congress they've kroeger comments on facebook i always feel so much more secure when congress is grilling corporations and government agency heads about how they're violating individual privacy rights congress is of course the same a situation that regularly approves legislation that pace is all over the constitution so yeah i share your discomfort that congress is after all the body that has come together an unprecedented shows of bipartisanship to. the patriot act and renew it over and over again also the body that drew the fai's amendments i've been renewed about one two so no it's not very reassuring that congress is supposed to be a watchdog for our privacy and i'll still take a member of congress grilling the head of the n.s.a. over one not doing it and say we should remember to take it with
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a grain of salt and not to be fools and then finally we have to share the creation of three enterprising argy fans erich krauss and tweeted. show look at me ben goodman and logan need for monday's happy hour delish men can bake hash tag continue hash tag make a big so i was there guys i'm very impressed and i think that there should be an alone to show the creation of next that's my ranting today but i'll be back with more as usual later in the week. our guys will take another short break but we're back on the revolving door between obama the obama administration and k. street and thousands of atheists but in the streets of washington d.c. this past weekend at the rally for the reason one of the speakers that pretty. sure we came. on called talk from the.
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