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officials are pointing to signs of recovery that any of that matter as long as zombie banks are still around you know all that morphy tonight including a dose of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. our guys so today we're going to start things a little bit differently but i still like to be in the show and it's not that different hello hello there we go all right yesterday i spoke about the mainstream media's lack of that little thing called an attention span and we sure are a little big on stories of racial social criminal injustice for a few weeks if there is one that fits the perfect medium old but then unfortunately they move on they forget about it and it's as if it never happened and the one thing that they've actually put in pretty consistence at however is really fanning the flames of fear every time that there is an attempted terrorist plot let's be honest very often f.b.i.

planned terror plots and foiled. the man accused of making pipe bombs in his new york city apartment is in custody this morning on several terrorism related charges according to court records muhammad said he had been interested since he was an early teen twenty seven year old jose pimentel allegedly wanted to bomb the police and u.s. troops returning from the war this tape of an n.y.p.d. test damage he could have cost now these models which are about the tenth the size of a real plane would have been filled with a plastic explosive undercover agents busting for dust as he waited for delivery of what he thought included grenades machine guns and explosives nineteen year old one hundred us manuel hubbard was a teen age to go are you guys know they go big on that stuff as we learned thanks investigations by other news organizations magazines blogs specifically one by wired danger room and a counterterrorism training of the f.b.i. and local law enforcement agencies have received is incredibly problematic. an

f.b.i. training presentation which claimed mainstream muslims sympathize with militant training material saying things like islam transforms a country's culture into seventh century arabian ways in a series of slides and titled strategic themes and drivers in islamic law it says the prophet muhammad is the assassinations and executions of his critics the mohammad's mindset is a source for terrorism guy for world nut daily is now doing training for the f.b.i. for the f.b.i.'s counterterrorism officers the view is that there can be no peace between islam and others until darl islam conquers and assimilates its adversaries . now unwired first broke that story can't say that was huge news it was not every network but look it was covered and that's impressive considering we rarely see the other side of things as they are not how many homegrown terrorists we need to fear of us and how there are big terrorism experts parading around training our law

enforcement agencies and bigotry but what's really unfortunate is there there are new results to this story and ones that are going completely under covered see the f.b.i. had to do an internal review after these documents surfaced and after six long months finally been completed and the results are disturbing to say the least not only do we see nassib misinformation being spread but also log breaking civil liberties offenses to be specific they show the f.b.i. targets agents that they could sometimes quote bend or suspend the law in their hunt for terrorists and criminals some of the training ward agents against shaking hands with asians and said the arabs were prone to quote jekyll and hyde temper tantrums and perhaps worst of all despite all of these results the review did not result anything will disciplinary action for any instructor it didn't mandate the retraining and have any f.b.i. agent and it didn't look at any intelligence supports than they have been influenced by that training now we know all this thanks to why it's dangerous all

going up on the story despite the bad. the f.b.i. had no plans to disclose the entire results of this inquiry but nobody else out there seems that bothered or shocked about these results because apparently oh they're completely ignoring that now once again a blatant disregard for civil liberties is what we see an inability to follow up on a story and see it all the way through especially when the results are so damning i guess that it's just so much more fun for the mainstream media to stoke fear flashing mug shots across the screen than it is to admit that our own forwards are the ones often bending the law and infringing upon our rights that's what they choose to miss. all these days the voices calling for calm caution diplomacy seem to be few and far between senator harry reid trying to pass a new round of iranian sanctions through the senate without allowing any debate already amendments but that failed because of

a blocked by some of the rand paul and all these sanctions were geared towards penalizing firms for iran related activities of their foreign subsidiaries as well as anybody that would provide equipment to run the aids censorship or human rights abuses language also formally stated that the u.s. policy is intended to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon so paul aimed to add an amendment that would make sure that the use of any military force would have to get congressional approval and any of this to say about it on the floor. i'm amazed that the majority party objects to an amendment that simply restates the constitution our founding fathers were quite concerned about giving the power to declare war to the executive they were quite concerned that the executive could become like a king many in this body in our good boots on the ground fast enough in a variety of places from syria to libya to iran we don't just send boots to war we send our young americans to war. you've got

a point and student so do the more than eighty retired military officers that have written a letter to congress urging the body not to go along with paul ryan's plan to cut six billion dollars from development and diplomacy and simultaneously beefing up defense but why are these voices the ones asking for diplomacy in going to already joining me to discuss of course you are in new york is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks for joining me and we have a couple things that i want to break down tonight but first just overall i mean are you with me if you look at what's happening with iran if you look at this move by paul ryan in the budget if you look at mitt romney would you think towards russia feel like diplomacy is just couldn't be any farther away from these people's lives . so i'm with you absolutely i mean i think you know the united states had a long history through the nineteenth century first half of the twentieth century of using cautious diplomacy as a tool to meet national security needs i think what we've seen over the last over

the last several decades but really especially over the last ten years is a deterioration of that tradition and we see that especially in congress where people all the way that they can muster for guns and bombs but nothing for diplomacy they want to pull back there and i think i also think rand paul in pushing this amendment is also right on the money you know why during the two thousand and eight campaign charlie savage then from the boston globe put a question to barack obama he asked him. can the president bomb iran without first getting congressional approval setting aside cases where iran had launched an attack first and obama answered very clearly no but last year we had the example of libya in which the president certainly didn't hear that

limitation and we have more recently president obama's speech before apac in which he is playing up his willingness to act unilaterally and certainly nothing was said about getting congressional approval and attacking iran to a little bit their nuclear capability so frankly it would be foolish if congress didn't take the sort of step the rand paul is advocating now to the sad thing is that rand paul is the only one it's doing it right if you listen to harry reid people they'll say it the reason that they wanted to push this through without any amendments without any debate is because he was concerned that people both on the right and the left wanted to attack on an amendment snappier would be limiting powers but they would just make the sanctions even more heavy duty and basically they told him is that we don't have time for this and don't worry because once it's done our you know went once we get this sanctions through we're still not done with iran sounds like they have big plans. big plans well they don't have time for them

let's go back and look at what happened a year ago a little bit less than a year ago now when the first steps were taken against libya you know the senate adopted a resolution trying to bully obama into action and then when they did act they didn't have time for deliberation for speeches on the floor or for an acting a resolution the north america so frankly i don't buy that i won't have you there with me now what you can see this you know this budget and i've spoken about this before on the show it's very obvious to me what path you're taking if you're choosing to cut money from development and diplomacy and then keep beefing up their offense budget but then you have these more than eighty retired military officers that are writing a letter to congress say please can you pay attention to this this isn't the way to do it and so then who is paul ryan listening to you know when he when he comes up with these kinds of decisions. well you know i i think it's strange if

you think back to the age of dr strangelove a new member all the journals of all the generals were sitting around the table advocating use of the bomb at the drop of a hat and what we see in america today is just exactly the reverse it's politicians who advocate that especially people out on the campaign stump and the generals are actually models of decorum in reserve and i think what we see in this list of eighty generals and they're very very senior retired figures they understand from their own experience in the military that diplomats can achieve things that they can't and that they need that diplomatic leverage and presence to accomplish the military missions they have so that's very very foolish to pull back on the i mean just think about from their perspective having a status of forces agreement having base rights having the right to fly over other

countries all these things are dealt with by diplomats and let's not forget the idea of voiding conflict to start with you know the big issue in the background in washington today about afghanistan is military policy versus diplomacy and i think there's a pretty broad acceptance now that a serious mistake has been made over the last five years and putting military tactics up front and neglecting diplomacy and politics i think they call brooke was arguing that it was a mistake he did that very very dry it way and now i think almost everybody in fact including most people who are on the other side of him are acknowledging that he was right. i want to ask you lastly before we go to about right so we've been seeing this back and forth ever since this hot mike moment between president obama advantage and romney doubled down he wrote an op ed in foreign policy magazine called bowing to the kremlin and he said basically one of the lines is it's not an

accident that mr medvedev is now busy attacking me the russians clearly prefer to do business with the current incumbent of the white house which i mean to me it's like oh yeah he's president he's the one that's been president for four years that's actually been working with russia when it comes to reset a new start and what not but mitt romney we also do a little background here so he said the russia is the greatest turns out in the past he has also called china the greatest foe he's also called iran the greatest he's also pointed to islamic jihadism as the greatest foe so you know what do you make of all of these his moves here. he's a real opportunist when it comes to greatest proses me but you know i think his comments really make obama's point i mean obama's point was when we get close to election cycles all this stuff gets demagogued in and political discussion in washington that's exactly what's going on with the issues between russia and the

united states could not be more serious in fact these two countries have more than ninety percent of the thermo nuclear devices in the world it's an arsenal that skilling very very although it's very difficult to maintain this stuff technologically there is a really compelling need for some agreements to reduce the size of this force and to get rid of the old and obsolete materials for us and this sort of crass political rhetoric is standing in the way of it i think that's the reason why barack obama says we've got to get past the elections before we can and that's a shame for russia the united states and the world now think of the same for american theme that i think a parent there think of after so many years of war i think that everyone else would also like everyone to calm down a little bit scott i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. great to be with you hard time for a quick break but when we replay we return it looks like the obama health care mandate is very likely be overturned by the supreme court that has people from all

sides of the political spectrum sharing sort of a conundrum that is our health care system for a. good. story and it seems so. easy to understand it and the. other part of it and realize that everything you say you don't know. welcome to the big picture.

i'm mr. left in the lower so you know there's a real headline that none of the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back into. our is the state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. this time. the light. wires will be sinking. we have to discuss the n.y.p.d. systemic violations civil liberties occupy wall street crackdown stopping first procedures excessive use of force surveillance without probable cause the profiling of racial and religious minorities and policing outside the city and state but tonight in a struggle to keep the n.y.p.d. accountable we have a glimmer of hope to see a lot of times offending and officers they get off the hook because internal affairs investigation is a farce the people in charge of prosecuting i'm judging miscreate officers have

been new york city police officers and frankly impartial observers are they well now there's a change to that civilian complaint review board. well now the prosecuting overzealous and y.p. officers thanks to an agreement between the city council the mayor and y.p. commissioner ray kelly now before the c c r b they've merely received a complaint it was determined if those were substantiated and then handed over to the police for judgment and so unsurprisingly back off the get off the hook more often than not according to an advocate group called citizens union between two thousand and two and two thousand and ten the c.r.b. recommended a maximum punishment for two thousand and seventy eight officers now but it was doled out only one hundred fifty one based on the odds here little would happen when officers committed acts like the.

it's not just brutality against occupy wall street concern n.y.p.d. scrutiny surveillance of muslims liberal groups corruption cases the integrity of crime data and stop and frisk practices of all have citizens clamoring for more oversight and in fact just today the new york civil liberties union filed a federal class action lawsuit against the department for their stock and stop and frisk policies and civil liberties advocates contend that four million innocent new yorkers were unjustly detained between two thousand and four and twenty eleven and the group also said an operation called clean halls which allows police to put apartment buildings largely populated by blacks and latinos under siege of n.y.c. all use executive director donna lieberman said that for residents of clean halls buildings taking the garbage out shaking the mail that can result in being thrown against the wall and humiliated by police untold numbers of people been wrongly arrested for trespassing because they had the audacity to leave their apartments without i.d.'s or visit friends and family who live in clean halls buildings but if

these new oversight regulations work out and police overreach might not have to be contested in federal court thanks to the c c r d's new power granted this is valid it isn't exactly earth shattering for one the c.c.r. be a way for the funds to properly staff its new prosecution unit secondly police department officials will still serve as judges on the cases and finally commissioner ray kelly will still keep to veto the c.r.b. decisions but this new oversight does have powers very significant kelly is going to have to explain in writing his reasons for vetoing decisions to the board itself and the board can appeal. now these changes might not cause the department is misbehaving overnight at a supreme court associate justice louis brandeis once said sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants electric light the most efficient policeman and his newfound transparency should help new yorkers more effectively police abuse of cops so in that ray of sunlight there is

a glimmer of hope. now this week the date over the affordable care act has taken center stage here in washington as the supreme court for the last three days or arguments each day they focus on different aspects and whether or not the court can rule on the legislation at all because the penalty has gone into effect yet yesterday the most crucial day questioning the constitutionality of the individual mandate and today the question as to whether or not the rest of the law can still stand if the mandate is struck down or the debate over the mandate has been interesting people on the left and the right and opposition so the end of the day if it does or doesn't get struck down where does that leave us are there any real solutions to america's health care debacle or discuss this with me as a republican presidential candidate fred karger and kevin zeese co-director of it's our economy and organizer of the national occupation of washington d.c. gentlemen thank you both for joining me tonight and for starters this is a really big deal when the last time you can tell me that you saw a supreme court case get this much attention we know it's been like forty five

years since we've ever seen a five and half six hours of oral arguments allowed to be held but i mean really this is a huge deal. here ok so election here is basically of lawyers saying this because of election and supreme court decision that's going to affect the president and it's toast it's over we might as well just start planning a new policy and i think it should be left to the states we've had a success in massachusetts i give governor romney credit for that i think each state is very different we should have a fifty state play and i like what maryland has done under their program where they contain costs of procedures so i think we go back to the drawing board this was a compromise it's we made no one happy and i think we start over we do it quickly so you think it's toast do you think it's sort of kevin i don't you want it to be he has a very close question that comes down to justice and he showed both sides yes you know when he talked about this new fundamental increases in government and where is

the wind will make us buy. but then you start to see that the maybe the assurance is different that we could stop you can just be one of them my hope is that if i mended unconstitutional i'll use wrongfully got to tell people to buy some corporate product i disagree that we should go to the states and we have a fifty state solution there is an evidence based solution exists both the united states and throughout the world medicare is that the most successful part of our health care the most efficient part of health care people on medicare excellent and it's a single payer system we have a private delivery system so doctors hospitals nurses are private but you have a public funding system and the reason that works and because you have a big funding pool and that's what makes it official our before we get into this is interesting so we have we have left that we have a right that all think of this is unconstitutional but let me just throw maybe a few of the justifications you know some of the legally is that we heard from justice briar yesterday he gave this hypothetically if the disease is sweeping the u.s. forty million people are susceptible of whom ten million wild i can't federal government

say that all forty million get an occupation i mean does that make sense to you think about the good a legal argument for why the mandate should stand i think that's a good argument for single payer i mean probably the mandate is it doesn't solve the problem and even the best estimates for the mandate leave us with twenty million uninsured in ten years just last week the congressional budget there was a report that showed there are twenty million employers are going to get rid of their insurance for employees so you're going to lose twenty million people there too and medicaid is shrinking rapidly expanding it's not going to cover the people who promise it is this the real issue with this law sizably it's not a solution we have a solution we're going to do is take two words out of the medicare along law over sixty five strike those two words we have a national plan that's approvingly effective it's been in existence since one hundred sixty five it works it works it works so i also have big in this case are we not going to get anywhere even if this constitutional mandate is over you know if it is overturned we have single payer. and then we have let it let it all be

left to the states we just can't afford to insure every single american by the federal government standard or take care of every single american as a federal government i think we need to return it to the states there are things that can be done to lower health care costs too there's a lot of fraud out there we talked about medicare there's certainly a lot of medicare fraud health care is changing we have nurse practitioners now working out of big stores walgreens and cost those people can get health care at least at the initial stage through through. and then prevent these astronomical health care costs and then something i've advocated my campaign now even give away frisbees all over this country we need to get fit america needs to take care of itself we need to concentrate on diet and exercise and i've been advocating that that will prevent a tremendous amount of health care costs and put much less pressure on our government to take care of so many americans i have a clip because you know it but basically what they were discussing today to you is that if the mandate is struck down there are some parts of this legislation that

are incredibly popular i think at the latest poll from new york times c.b.s. said that eighty five percent of americans support this rule that you cannot be denied health insurance because of you know because of preexisting conditions like when mitt romney said last night i think like. people with preexisting conditions as long as they've been insured before they're going to be able to continue to have a child suppose they were never well if they if they're forty five years old or they show up and they say i want to go to heart disease it's like hey guys we can't play the game like that you got to get insurance when you're well and that if you get ill then you're going to be covered. reaction. when he said i was a put his foot in the mouth pretty regularly and i think you know that in fact i don't think the masters laws working all that well tell you truth are robbing from the public health system to fund the subsidies for insurance and so it's really not working all that well it's going to it's actually the bankruptcies in related to health care in massachusetts have continued to be staggeringly high people with

insurance two thirds people with insurance who have a health crisis and up in bankruptcy even if every surance i just think if you look at the facts for it and i know you have been campaigning for years it's hard look at facts i know it's hard when your campaign look at anything but if you look at the facts what you're going to see is that a fifty state solution won't work you want the biggest pool possible in order and you can do this and stop experimentation of the states you can allow flexibility to stay local but you need to have a fifty state payer system so everybody's in. the most efficient medicare is a three percent overhead health insurance is a sixty to seventy percent overhead plus they have a lot of bureaucracy to doctors and hospitals and businesses and consumers if they can make it look up thirty one percent of the cost of health care we need to get rid of the insurance industry get them out of the middle between doctor and patient that will give us the most freedom by the way so i want to for i want to put an idea here a way to talk about this concept of everybody being in rather than choosing if you

want to be a part of it this is something of value with what you can live like right about yesterday and so you know she talked about how a lot of this came up because of the concept of liberty i think is the government imposing upon your liberty by mandating that you buy health insurance but after looking at the arguments that this interim court justices heard after listening to what they said she got the opinion from the conservative viewpoint that you know in america's highest court freedom seems to be less about the absence of constraint and about the absence of shared responsibility community or real concern for those who don't want anything so much as healthy children are to be cared for when they're. so when you say that when there shouldn't be just one pool that everyone is a part of are you saying that i don't want to dirty my hands to help others you know i think we need to offer basic health care to everyone in this country we're not sweden we're not great britain we're not kander we're three hundred seventy million people so it becomes a big challenge i want to open up competition i don't i well i'm not afraid of the insurance industry i think the insurance industry with competition there are only

three providers in california for me to choose from as a california resident let's open up one hundred sure it's companies bring cost down that way and i think i have face to face in the common. in the public sector and private sector working together but i think we need to do it in the states i think we can work very well with the states take them as it was playing which is different there than in new mexico where we would have a different way and what's nice about here fred was that competition which is the doctors competition for the best doctors opposed the best insurance policy that's where the competition should be i don't have to wrack i want to thank you both for joining me and i think that this is the problem right this is the fundamental problem in america that it's not solve the some point the country's going to go broke and yet you know it's like how many decades for us to get here and to get it finally in the into a piece of legislation add to the supreme court and still nothing will be stopped all right thanks for joining us. we have another short break when we come back as i read it and then he's going to europe.