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markets finite. number. one i know what's really happening to the global economy with my stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to congress report on our. blog job market in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture with more and more americans falling out of the middle class every day they're finding it hard to find ways to get by desperate americans are now pinning their hopes on to achieve the american dream also the supreme court falls over obamacare the fate of fifty three million americans hangs in the balance i will conservatives felt the nation's uninsured if obamacare is struck down and because brothers are again destroying our democracy
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and taking away your power over the federal government are they flooding politics and money and buying out washington without anybody knowing. you know this today was the final day of arguments before the supreme court to determine the constitutionality of obamacare yesterday's bruising interrogation by the five right wing justices of the high court but the cornerstone of president obama's health reform law the individual mandate in jeopardy and today the high court heard arguments to determine just how much of the health reform law should be struck down if the individual mandate itself is ruled unconstitutional bigger picture here is this the supreme court may be on the verge of ripping out more pieces of our nation's social safety net a social safety net that has allowed a middle class to take hold in america since f.d.r. created it with his new deal and also to thrive and generate enormous wealth for
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our economy unfortunately without access to health insurance and more importantly without health care being considered a basic right in america that social safety net is in danger and without it a real class dives in fact that already is done for the median wealth in america now pegged at under twenty six thousand dollars that's actually income well with forty nine million americans in poverty and forty six million americans depending on food stamps now to mention the fifty three million americans who don't have health insurance and will never be able to get it if obamacare is struck down by the high court or the one hundred million americans with health insurance who will once again have to live in fear that their health insurance company will drop them as soon as they get sick common practice called rescission or the seventeen million children with preexisting conditions whose only chance of receiving the care they need also the cons on obamacare being ok well this isn't just about health care this is about the middle class and as more and more americans fall out of the ranks
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of the middle class and into the working poor and they resign themselves to the fact that their life isn't going to get any better the old american dream is dead for them. and their only hope now is to hit a lottery jackpot that in fact is the new american dream as the lottery culture in america meet the face of the new american dream here's chris shaw who want to quarter million dollars a few years back into power. you know that's going to be great for me to be out of the kids stuff that i do for them. that's a great thing i get that you know where are you going to go what are you going to. you know i mean we didn't you know we didn't come from money you want to go ahead. and he's going to get some front teeth according to usa today lottery sales were up last year in two thousand and four cornell study found quote we see that lottery sales go up as the economy gets bad we don't see people spending more on relatively
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inexpensive other forms of entertainment now what that means is that people don't think of the lottery anymore as entertainment so i go into the casino and spend in some nickels people are doing it because they're getting desperate the middle class used to be a priority of this nation one good union job at a factory was enough to sustain a family of four in a middle class home to afford health care to afford a car to afford education to afford a vacation to afford a retirement thems the story of my dad forty years until and i shop retired own his own home had a pension the whole bit good union job that's not the case anymore now people depend on the lottery to try and get these things desperately try to get these things. and so as the economy gets worse and auto sales go up but winning the lottery is just as empty northwestern university to study they looked at a group of lottery winners in a very similar group of car accident victims who had ended up paralyzed to their paraplegics or quadriplegics what they found was that among the two groups in terms
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of day to day pleasure like quality of life because obviously it's actually got more enjoyment than the lottery winners the lottery winners usually saw their lives ten years out wiped out their marriages fell apart all kinds of horrible things happen and quadriplegics had similar positive outlook for the future as the lottery winners at it which is really interesting interesting no by the way quadriplegics have a strong social safety net the social security program to help them get by and maintain happiness social security for an average twenty five year old in america represents a two million dollar life health insurance policy basically because if you become a quadriplegic or a paraplegic in america you're twenty five years old social security will pay for the rest of your life this friday the mega million jackpot is going to hit five hundred million dollars half billion the largest ever jackpot in the history of the world tens of millions of americans will be running out to buy tickets hoping that they might win the new post regular american dream and dream of safety and security
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of the used to be available to pretty much anybody who just want to work and since reaganomics ripped apart the middle class and clinton nomic sent all our jobs overseas it's become a nightmare and now the supreme court can deliver the could deliver a death blow to it. it's wednesday night which means it's time for the long liberal rather lot our panel tonight caroline mary and jeff who are both reporters of the daily caller and rock and you both let's get started good to see you both. look it right first question here obamacare of course i was just talking about reporters seem to think obamacare is in big trouble words coming out of the supreme court you know oh yeah those is this is. really hard questions body body but there are fifty three million americans without health insurance one hundred thirty million americans with
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preexisting conditions they're now protected by obamacare seventeen million children preexisting conditions now protected by obamacare two and a half million young people who are currently covered under their parents' health insurance policies weren't even eligible year ago now protected by obamacare seniors just in the last twelve months and save three billion dollars on prescription drugs as the volatiles closed and fifteen million people have access to preventative care like mammograms and colonoscopies and whatnot all thanks to obamacare what are you going to tell these people if it gets blown up i think you've got to tell them you should have saw this coming this was going to be this mandate was to be challenged baseless prostitution ality and bloody to see this coming why didn't why was why were democrat i did you get sick when you were seventeen that your idea that you called is the solution that you would have these hurdles overcome where it would be challenged in the supreme court this is all in your democrat is it sells somebody who is thirty five years old and was just diagnosed with cancer who would who took accutane when they were sixteen for for acting and their health insurance is now saying that's
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a preexisting condition we're not going to cover you you're going to tell that person that they should've seen this coming the constitution is the law with the land you have to you have to design a plan that will fit that mold if it doesn't fit that mold then you're in the situation you are now they should have come up with a plan on how do you. opportunity it wasn't this aggressive so surely the cancer survivor should have come up with a plan well they would take what it would carolyn what are your listeners that's representing whoever you say but i think that it goes straight to the constitutionality you know if the government can mandate that you can see things but can't the government tell you to do you know it's sort of goes on to the whole idea of all overreaching federal government have they believe dictates and i think that argument that they made in social security nine hundred thirty seven. axiom argue the government is mandating you to buy as an insurance policy provided by the government called social security now they're mandating you to buy insurance policy you know provided by private companies and this exact same argument the supreme court upheld it earlier so these conservatives have offered to even consider it i
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mean for example i don't think that i don't know this would have been the magic bullet but the selling insurance across state lines or make the marketplace more and there was make it like a credit card companies where they all end up in north dakota because they got the lowest standards are you know you could do these pools were only uninsured to pull together and try to get some kind of economic benefit to say you've got monopolies because the same way that they get the benefits for people that have employer insurance there's a lot of things they could have done and they could have done without having a mandate that was going to be challenged on this constitutional basis but my lawyer and a lot of people my question for both of you is what do you say to that thirty five year old who has cancer but you say they're on insurable know what the republicans have to offer i mean they have offered other options as jeff mentioned and i think that went with everything of well i mean no argument to be made is the idea of actually bringing the marketplace into the health care sector instead of having health insurance be your health your health care you know there is i think the
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definition of insurance has been a little bit skewed in this entire thing since you're in the thirty five years old driving a cab for a living what of it what do you sell what are you saying to them. are they being turned away i mean yes this is serious do you show up at her insurance companies say i'm thirty five years old i have cancer they'll say see you later or do you care to live her off spittles or you can say you confusing insurance with health care i mean what's the such argument is that you get turned away at the hospital well actually you show up at a hospital if you're bleeding they won't turn you away they can't because of the law that ronald reagan signed. beyond his budget reconciliation in ninety six but that means that you're not you know we're all paying each one of us if you have health insurance your plan a thousand dollars a year to cover those people who show up you know the reagan mandated right had to be covered but they always get turned a company which could turn the way it is because back to even the image they're dying the original is somebody walks into an emergency room is as i get a lump in my breast they'll say great comeback you know when it breaks through i
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mean why do we have insurance of the first place you look at f.d.r. put a freeze on the wages of stuff like that off of these kind of benefits this is what happens with government you know if you are let's let's move on to the political implications of this who it let's let's assume that the supreme court does not accountable care seems to me like if they do that the biggest losers are the republican party because they're all running on you know is this is socialism you know romney keeps saying first thing i'm going to do is repeal obamacare right he can't say it anymore instead he's going to have to come up with a well here's what i'll offer the american people and i haven't heard anything from the republicans that's here's what we're going to offer you is this what got the democratic party trouble two thousand and ten was the whole idea of obamacare getting passed you had this landslide election. you have these competing dynamics. change carville said he thinks that the republicans will own the health care system but you could just say the same argument i made earlier that the democrats have put forward a health care system they didn't fit it i mean you can say what you want to about the state finance from the supreme it was my my my question it becomes
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a political it because of who wins and who loses if this gets knocked down and you can argue that way and i think people are looking at it sort of both. i honestly i can't at this. sort of a loss as to who wins just because obama is a liability for obama that's why he needs to look weak that made her liberal base and look weak but also obamacare in general having an unpopular and i think that actually being struck down could help him politically it's on top but it will rain without being struck down makes him look weak so i mean there are today there are many different ways to look at it and i think it's going to play our agree and a lot has to how it's marketed because when you ask people would you like obamacare or about half of americans say yes when you ask people do you like the fact that health insurance companies going to longer drop you in the middle of a cancer operation because you put your lifetime limit of a million dollars they say no i don't like that you know what rasmussen would say that's all and how you phrased the question what it was if you ask and the details of what people say you seem to love it but who knows i mean you know i don't i
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think they're doing a lousy job of marketing you know that i got this for so many i will be back with more rubble right after the very. wealthy british style sun. times. market trying to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into congress report . the official. called touch from the.
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well the back to the liberal rumble on our panel caroline may and jeff for reporters with the daily caller let's hear back to it air safety in the scene on a jet blue plane yesterday when a pilot basically freaked out whether he had a panic attack whether he was on meds or off meds or who knows what he was one of the passengers had to say. you say you say i did say i was in that there was a lot of people we salute you people just when i said you know that the united states is. so doesn't this i mean this is like maybe the tenth or fifteenth time since nine eleven and nine eleven out of the four planes one of them got taken down by the passengers and since then there's been at least it seems
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a dozen i mean i hadn't been keeping track but you know item by item where passengers have taken down a passenger and they last week they took out a flight attendant yesterday they took out a pilot. it seems to me like we're safer now because of the people who fly because of us who fly and all of this t.s.a. nonsense with the charity scanners where michael chertoff is making thirty four million dollars as a lobbyist so in these absurd x. ray machines and and all this security theater i mean i've i've been to two gigs with the president you know the correspondents' dinner and there was something else where he was there and i was in a meeting with joe biden a while ago and you just walk through a magnetometer that's it it's like. this has to be here you know what i don't think i'm no fan of the t.s.a. of a same time while we're talking about things like trayvon i don't know about this vigilante and i think that it's important you know to passengers be aware and things like
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that but i mean i think it's a little bit iffy to be talking about the land here in the same time as headlines are taught you think if your enemy isn't a pilot comes i would not be not right or wrong not that i'm not are you about that in terms of making policy i don't know if you want to build policy around that land here but i guess what we've done though i mean isn't that what we've done because if they don't you know the interesting thing about the entire history of our country you know the reason why there's literally not a cop on every street is because you can generally rely on american people if somebody is really on a line to to do something yeah but i don't think we should this mantle everything in order to you know i still think you need to have a degree of awareness and you know there's a different story to where this joint is or what she was saying it was you know these i mean i really want to use to be able to to walk into an airport and walk around going i do think you're getting started on that you know i think you need to be a little less of the shoes of the water that is coming i mean you know before nine eleven we were actually after the after the hijackings to cuba in the late
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seventy's there was a there was a bill in congress to do would israel had done which is hardly cockpit doors it would cost the airlines one hundred ten thousand dollars per point they lobbied against and got killed had that been passed nine eleven never would happen right it was simple i mean i don't think this crazy ice twenty twenty so well you have hardened doors and it would have been a lot less well it's expensive than it is difficult to actually hear right now yeah so it's interesting you know you generally conservatives and i agree on this i don't think that this is a left right or you know i think that i want to keep my shoes on and not be bothered if you yeah well in europe they let you keep your shoes on because there and in london they pass a little blue forty's to everybody because they're like everybody nobody wants to get athlete's foot you know it's not for the idea of being treated like a criminal. i don't know yeah we're having the fourth amendment right there you know i'm with rand paul in arms ok the volcker rule they might not be too long before our economy gets screwed by wall street and this is this is a. public citizen released
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a report today showing that the volcker rule first of all is like almost a glass steagall glass steagall one hundred thirty five when the banks went down in flames they went down in flames because they had been gambling with their depositors money and their gambles went bad and all of a sudden people who had put had money in checking accounts and savings accounts and money was gone thousands of banks closed people lost everything average people who had no investments at all just money in the bank and so glass steagall was put in place and said you can have a gambling bank also known as an investment bank or you can have a commercial bank also known as checkbook and savings account but you can't but it can be one nine hundred ninety nine that a blown up with great grandma riley thanks to phil gramm on behalf of his wife wendy was a board of enron so the enron could do this and now you could do both and so the volcker rule says no you can't do both anymore you have to pick one of the other it's not fully implemented even right now members of congress who oppose the volcker rule who want to keep things the way they were over the last eleven years
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have collected more than sixty six million dollars since two thousand and ten from baxter's which is three hundred eighty eight thousand per member and therefore we have four times more than those members of congress who are in favor of the broker or isn't this like primal face evidence of. horrible corruption of our congress by the bankers when we didn't because you said just about anything with their unions is there i mean any kind of campaign donations yes so what are we going to do about that is you have to let the system work itself out i mean there you go i don't think you should just say we disagree with the lobbyists the voter rule so therefore you can't you can't to spate of process but on the other hand i mean there is a there it works both ways in this bribery ok i won't care what i think it's a place where it's. probably the most important thing to be able to say you know look means congress and receive x.y.z. amount of money from this. you know take it at its face look at the issue and agree with it or not at the same time i mean you bring up those numbers i mean obama
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received so much money from the fact it was a top fundraiser but not now not right now though romney has gotten seventy three percent of all the wall street money in this election cycle and over ninety percent of his going to republican candidates and it's going to democrats either way we hold these numbers up and say look at this look at this but i mean as jeff said you can say that about pretty much any as you and i want to like go back to mccain feingold john mccain had a great idea twenty five hundred dollars from ground zero that does it if you don't know sort of what i mean that's the argument against that of the corporation is it doesn't pass the constitutional muster and i don't think speech is money i think it's property i see the money i don't think money is speech i think it's probably will the supreme court i called the industries with you i'm not sure that's that's what you're about to make a right. if you agree you both agree with this record yes i do think that i'm not matter yes corporations should be people and who want to do many i mean a new and sort of ideological and philosophical discussion on this but who makes that corporations i mean what is a corporation and corporations are authorized by the was an individual states they
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are oh yeah your question is the way they are distracted but what is the who creates somewhere where does that come from secretary of state's office so it's clearly going to visit her but it's money that comes from individuals right and i'm certainly come from a corporation and it's always been a lot of those were her sort of talking on. each day trying to make the argument that corporations are for groups for people therefore there should have rights but you know i've heard it but i think well let's move on to trayvon martin i will agree to disagree about. the ongoing trayvon martin story today congressman bobby rush was kicked off the floor a house of representatives for were in a hoodie in solidarity with trayvon family where this. young someone with. a hoodie. it does not make them who look. the commandments teaches us this is me. and the murder line same sex marriage the system the member will say these words. meanwhile police in sanford are
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reopening the investigation into this thing which seems like a reasonable thing but the florida shoot first was sometimes referred to as the stand your ground law. this was written by the national rifle association and wal-mart the lobbyist for the weapons manufacturers and the largest gun seller in the united states wal-mart is and and it was pushed by the american legislative exchange council into the states we have over a dozen states now with absolute pinnacle language all of this came through our alec is funded by the koch brothers why are corporate lobbying groups funded by eccentric billionaires writing our laws isn't this you know are particularly laws that that lead to things like the police literally saying the state's attorney says we can't prosecute this guy for murdering trayvon williams or martin rather isn't this a persian of democracy we get into the weeds with the word the law came but i do think i don't get the weeds i think it's a good wall needs some it needs some it's need some fine tuning clearly when you have this kind of answer you need some specific language saying why cross through
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stand your ground it's may not be chasing after somebody or whatever happened we don't know what happened in this case i think it's a little presumptive to say this is why this is why this happened and connect the dots that way until we know the facts i think the best part about here but you just that it that everything that one doesn't want but a large part of the last favorite book you know wal-mart or the n.r.a. koch brothers they all have coalesced in this one evil law and as jeff said i don't think that we can come to that conclusion yet the investigation has been you know panned out but then i don't think that i think that is premature those are getting a lot what the law does is it makes it harder to sue wal-mart because if so you know justifiable homicide rate has tripled in florida since that was passed and if somebody if you can't sue people who sold the gun so immunizes wal-mart it makes more money for the n.r.a. more people are buying guns and and who does the benefit of the. i would say that
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benefits people who feel threatened who you know one of the one of the primary right in terms of natural rights you have a right to self-defense right so taking that right which i am going to i guess that is just that this law probably does need some fine tuning but at the same time i think it's a little bit concerning to to discuss straight forward the idea that you can't get beyond yourself but i think that's one of the argument. indeed last question quick for this morning i mean somebody see former senator arlen specter gave the best analysis of romney flip flopping yet when he said this. romney has changed positions from the pornographic movie quote. so let's assume the romney is a porn star for a moment what are his favorite position to be is it a bob around military position b. sixty nine million dollar tax break c. reverse cowgirl rick perry endorsement i'm not seeing pictures change. any of what you think i would surprise you throughout all the american idol contest others are
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yeah ok there's some of the city abilities that straight is so ok i've really come to embarrassed by this too i thought for. sure. i think it's the dog in the world style so there we go there's the dog i see and hear carefully and jeff thank you very much for joining us. crazy alert there are aliens on that mountain or at least that's what a group of two hundred new age believers in france want you to think the group has flooded the small french town of blue good i like a home to the peek a boo bit our mountain and the new agers believe that inside this strangely shaped mountain is a huge secret aliens spaceship apparently a spaceship was put on earth to take the alien admirers to a new world when the mayan predicted end of the world comes on december twenty
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first this year one of the alien ambassadors told the independent newspaper that the apocalypse we believe in is the end of the circle world in the beginning of another is one of the major shock was the earth a place devoted to welcoming the energies of tomorrow and while bill village residents are happy about the sudden boost to their local economy not exactly thrilled by the new agers daily naked hikes up the summit of the alien adult abode preflight programs and one and other really alien related news witnesses also report seeing robotic missions surveilling the mountain the incidence or conspiracy . after the break the gruesome two some known as the koch brothers are a driving force corrupting our democracy how are the codes able to launder money and spend millions electing conservative lawmakers in the twenty's out of washington while hiding out from the rest of us are what i pay be up to now.
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