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three. three. three. zero zero closing videos for your media project a free media. blog market in washington d.c. here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture with more and more americans falling out of the middle class every day they're finding it hard to find ways to get by so they were desperate americans are now pinning their hopes on the cheek of the american dream also praying for falls over obamacare the fate of fifty three million americans angry the balance i will conservatives help the nation's uninsured if obamacare is struck down and because brothers are again destroying our
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democracy and taking away your power over the federal government are they flooding politics and money and buying out washington without anybody knowing. did you know this today was the final day of arguments before the supreme court to determine the constitutionality of obamacare yesterday's bruising interrogation by the five right wing justices in the high court with the cornerstone of president obama's health reform law the individual mandate in jeopardy and today the high court heard arguments to determine just how much of the health reform law should be struck down if the individual mandate itself is ruled unconstitutional bigger picture here is this the supreme court may be on the verge of ripping out more pieces of our nation's social safety net a social safety net that is allowed a middle class to take hold in america since f.d.r.
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created it with this new deal and also to thrive and generate enormous wealth for our economy unfortunately without access to health insurance and more importantly without health care being considered a basic right in america that social safety net is in danger and without it the middle class die if in fact that already is done the median wealth in america now under twenty six thousand dollars it's actually in going out well with forty nine million americans in poverty and forty six million americans depending on food stamps not to mention the fifty three million americans who don't have health insurance and will never be able to get it if obamacare is struck down by the high court with the one hundred million americans with health insurance who will once again have to live in fear that their health insurance company will drop them as soon as they get sick common practice called rescission or the seventeen million children with preexisting conditions his only chance of receiving the care they need also depends on obamacare being a pell this isn't just about health care this is about the middle class and as more
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and more americans fall out of the ranks of the middle class and into the working poor and they resign themselves to the fact that their life isn't going to get any better the old american dream is dead for them. and their only hope now is to hit a lottery jackpot that in fact is the new american dream that's the lottery culture in america meet the face of the new american dream here's chris shaw who want to quarter million dollars a few years back in the power lottery. you know that's going to be great for me to be out of the kids stuff that i could do for them. that's great. about you know where you going to go where you can you know that you know i mean we did it you know we didn't come from money you know whatever. and he's going to get some front teeth according to usa today lottery sales were up last year in two thousand and four cornell study found quote we see that lottery sales go up as the
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economy gets bad we don't see people spending more on relatively inexpensive other forms of entertainment now what that means is that people don't think of the lottery anymore as entertainment so i go to the casino and spend in some nickels people are doing it because they're getting desperate the middle class used to be a priority of this nation one good union job at a factory was enough to sustain a family afford a middle class to afford health care to afford a car to afford education to afford a vacation to afford a retirement that was the story of my dad forty years until and i shop retired own his own home had a pension the whole bit good union job that's not the case anymore now people depend on the lottery to try and get these things desperately try to get these things. that's why as the economy gets worse lotto sales go up but winning the lottery is just as empty northwestern university does study they looked at a group of robbery winners in a very similar group of car accident victims who had ended up paralyzed either paraplegics or quadriplegics what they found was that among the two groups in terms
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of dated pleasure like quality of life the odd ripley ticks actually got more enjoyment than the lottery winners the lottery winners usually saw their lives five or ten years out wiped out their marriages fell apart all kinds of horrible things happen and quadriplegics had similar positive outlook for the future as the lottery winners at rich is really interested in interest you know by the way quadriplegics have a strong social safety net the social security program to help them get by and maintain happiness social security for an average twenty five year old in america represents a two million dollar life health insurance policies because if you become a quadriplegic or paraplegic in america you're twenty five years old social security will pay for the rest of your life this friday the mega million jackpot is going to hit five hundred million dollars after billion the largest ever jackpot in the history of the world tens of millions of americans will be running out to buy tickets hoping that they might win the new post regular american dream
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a dream of safety and security in the used to be available to pretty much anybody who just wanted to work but since reaganomics ripped apart the middle class and clinton nomics on our jobs overseas it's become a nightmare and now the supreme court could deliver the could deliver a death blow to what. it's wednesday night which means it's time for the long liberal run the lot our pals and i caroline mary and jeff who are both reporters with the only color and welcome you both let's get started good to see both the group get great first question here obamacare of course i was just talking about reporters seem to think obamacare is in big trouble words coming out of those court you know oh yeah it is this is. a hard question is bloody bloody but there are fifty three million americans without health insurance one hundred thirty million americans with
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preexisting conditions they're now protected by obamacare seventeen million children preexisting conditions now protected by obamacare two and a half million young people who are currently covered under their parents' health insurance policies we're going to eligible year ago now protected by obamacare seniors just in the last twelve months of say three billion dollars in prescription drugs as they voted all is closed and fifteen million people have access to preventive care like mammograms and colonoscopies and whatnot all thanks to obamacare what are you going to tell these people if it gets blown up i think you've got to tell them you should have saw this coming this was going to be this mandate was to be challenged rachel's cost to ship ality and why didn't you see this coming why didn't why was why were democrat i did you get sick when you were seventeen that your idea is a solution that you would have these hurdles to overcome were the challenge in the supreme court this is always your democrat you're going to tell somebody who's thirty five years old and was just diagnosed with cancer who would who took accutane when they were sixteen for for acting and their health insurance is now
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saying that's a preexisting condition we're not going to cover you you're going to tell that person that they should've seen this coming the constitution is the law of the land you have to you have to design a plan that will fit that mold if it doesn't fit that mold then you're in the situation you are now they should have come up with a plan on how do you. opportunity there was of this aggressive so you don't want your survivorship to come up with a plan well they think what carolyn what you just have at surface mining. people you say but i think that it goes straight to the idea of the constitutionality you know if the government to mandate that you can do these things what can't the government tell you you know it sort of goes on to the whole idea of all overreaching federal government has to believe dictates and i snagged an argument that they made in social security nine hundred thirty seven the u.s. axiom argue government is mandating you to buy as an insurance policy provided by the government called social security now if you're mandating you to buy an insurance policy you know provided by private companies because exact same argument the supreme court upheld it earlier so these conservatives have offered to work
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even consider it i mean for example i don't think i don't know this would have been the magic bullet but the selling insurance across state lines or make the marketplace more and there was make it like the credit card companies where they all end up in north dakota because they got the lowest standards are you could do these pools were only uninsured to pull together and try to get some kind of economic benefit to say you could not always be the same way that they get the benefits for white people that have employer insurance there's a lot of things they could have done and they could have done without having a mandate that was going to be challenged on this prostitution basis but my lord and a lot of people my question both of you is what do you say to that thirty five year old who has cancer but you say there are insurable know what do the republicans have to offer well i mean they're offered other options as jeff mentioned and i think that what it will wipe out everything of all i mean no argument to be made is the idea of actually bringing the marketplace into the health care sector instead of having health insurance be your health you know health care you know there is i
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think the definition of insurance has been a little bit skewed in this entire thing seems friends at thirty five years old driving a cab for a living what of it what do you sell what are you saying to them. are they being turned away i mean yes this is serious to you show her insurance companies say i'm thirty five years old i have cancer they'll say see you later or do you care to live here or hospitals or you can stay you confusing insurance with health care i mean what's the such argument is that you get turned away at the hospital well actually you show up at a hospital if you're bleeding they want to turn you away the can't because of the ronald reagan sign corporal on the on his budget reconciliation in eighty six but that means that you're not you know we're going to pay each one of us if you can get health insurance you panic thousand dollars a year to cover those people who show you know the break and mandated right had to be covered but they always get turned. away to get turned away i mean this goes back to even the rich are dying the original is somebody walks into an emergency room is as i get a lump in my breast they'll say great comeback you know what
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a breakthrough we why do we have a church in the first place you look at f.d.r. put phrases on wages and stuff like that you offer these kind of benefits this is what happens with government and said well let's let's move on to the political implications of this who it let's let's assume if the supreme court does knock down obamacare seems to me like if they do the biggest losers of the republican party because they're all running on you know is this is socialism you know romney keeps saying first thing i'm going to do is repeal obamacare right he can't say it anymore instead he's going to have to come up with well here's what i'll offer the american people and i haven't heard anything from the republicans that's here's what we're going to offer you is this what got the democratic party the trouble of two thousand and ten was the whole idea about a caregiving past you had to slant side election she have you have these competing got manics. james carville said he thinks that the republicans will on the health care system but you could just say the same argument i made earlier that the democrats have put forward a health care system they didn't fit it i mean you can say what you want to about
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it still fits in the supreme it won't mind my question let me look it becomes a political it because i want wins and who loses if this gets knocked down thinking and i wave and i think people are looking at it sort of. i honestly i can't at this . sort of a loss as to who wins this because obama is a liability for obama at this point it makes him look weak able her liberal makes him look weak but also obamacare in general him having it's unpopular and i think that actually it being struck down could help him politically it's unpopular with way males and being struck down makes him look weak so i mean there are two there there are many different ways to look at it and i think it's got to play our agree and a lot has to how it's marketed because when you ask people would you like obama care only about half of americans say yes when you ask people do you like the fact that health insurance companies can no longer drop you in the middle of a cancer operation because you figure lifetime limit of a million dollars they say no i don't like that you know what rasmussen what they call and how you phrased the question what it was if you ask about details of what people seem seem to love it but. who knows i mean you know i don't i think you're
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doing a lousy job of marketing you know that i got this for so many i will be back with more rubble right after the very. wealthy british sun sun it's time to write. market why not. why not what's really happening to the global economy with my stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into cars a report. for your social. life called touch from the.
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what a bag of a liberal on our panel caroline mae and jeff who are reporters with the daily caller let's go back to it air safety the scene on a jet blue plane yesterday when a pilot basically freaked out whether he had a panic attack whether he was on meds or off meds or who knows what his one of the passengers had to say. these are these ideas so i was in that there was a lot of people we said you could you people use when i said you know what i'm going to stop this. so doesn't this i mean this is like maybe the tenth or fifteenth time since nine eleven and nine eleven out of the four planes one of them got taken down by the passengers and since then there's been at least it seems it
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doesn't i mean i haven't been keeping track but you know item by item where passengers have taken down a passenger in the last week they took out a flight attendant yesterday to check on a pilot. it seems to me like we're safer now because of the people who fly because of us who fly and all of this t.s.a. nonsense with a charity or no scanners where michael chertoff is making thirty million dollars as a lobbyist selling these absurd x. ray machines and and all this security theater i mean i've i've been to two gigs with the president you know the correspondents' dinner and there was something else where he was there and i was in a meeting with joe biden a while ago and he just walked through a magnetometer and that's it it's like. this has to be theater you know like i don't think i'm no fan the t.s.a. of a same time while we're talking about things like trayvon i don't know about this vigilante and i think that it's important you know to passengers be aware and things like
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that but i mean i think it's a little bit iffy to be talking about that to land here the same time as headlines are taught you think if you're any isn't a pilot comes i went out in the spring on the road it was not at all i'm not talking about that in terms of making policy i don't know if you want to build policy around that for land but i guess what we've done though i mean isn't that what we've done because if they don't you know the interesting thing i found the entire history of our country you know the reason why there's literally not a cop on every street is because you can generally rely on american people have somebody who's really out of line to to do something yet but i don't think we should this mantle everything in order to you know i still think you need to have a degree of awareness and you know there's a difference between awareness of a joint but she was saying you know you need all these i mean i really want to use to be able to walk into an airport and walk around and i do think they're being stepped on that you know i think it has to be a little less the shoes of a lot of that is coming out of what i mean you know before nine eleven well
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actually after the after the hijackings to cuba in the late seventy's there was a there was a bill in congress to do would israel had done which is hardly cockpit doors it would cost the airlines one hundred ten thousand dollars per airplane they lobbied against it got killed had that been passed nine eleven never were to happen right it was simple i mean we don't need this crazy ice twenty twenty so well you have hardened or it would have been a lot less all expensive than it is costing the taxpayer and yeah so it's interesting you know you generally conservatives and i agree on this i don't think that this is a left right or you know i think if i want to keep my shoes on and not be bothered if you know well in europe they let you keep your shoes on because there and in london they pass a little bit of forty's to everybody because they're like everybody nobody wants to get athlete's foot you know it's like nothing of the idea of being treated like a criminal. i don't know yeah whatever the forth about make up like are you i'm with rand paul it's ok volcker rule it might not be too long before our economy gets screwed by wall street and this is this is a. public citizen remains released
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a report today showing that the volcker rule first of all is like almost a glass steagall glass steagall one hundred thirty five when the banks went down in flames they went down in flames because they had been gambling with their depositors money and their gambles went bad and all of a sudden people who had put had money in checking accounts and savings accounts money was gone thousands of banks closed people lost everything average people who had no investments at all just money in the bank and so glass steagall was put in place and said you can never gambling bank also known as an investment bank or you can have a commercial bank also known as checkbook and savings account but you can't but it can't be won in one thousand nine hundred nine that a blown up with great grandma thanks to phil gramm on behalf of his wife when he was on the board of enron so that enron could do this and now you could do both and so the volcker rule says no you can't do both anymore you have to pick one of the other it's not fully implemented even right now members of congress who oppose the volcker rule who want to keep things the way they were over the last eleven years
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have collected more than sixty six million dollars since two thousand and ten from baxter's which is three hundred eighty eight thousand per member and therefore four times more than those members of congress who are in favor of the volcker rule isn't this like primal face evidence of. horrible corruption of our congress by the bankers when we didn't could you said just about anything with the union yes is there i mean any kind of campaign donations yes so if we were going to do about it you have to let the system work itself out i mean there you go i don't think you should just go say we disagree with the lobby gets to vote a rule so therefore you can't you can't to spate of process but on the other hand i mean there is a very it works both ways in this bribery ok i care what i think it's a play here. ali the most important thing to be able to say you know look these congressmen receive money from this. you know take it at its face even look at the issue would agree with that or not but the same time i mean you bring up those
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numbers i mean obama received so much money from the fact it was a top fundraiser but not the center right now though romney has gotten seventy three percent of all the wall street money in this election cycle and over ninety percent of his going to republican candidates none of it's going to democrats either way we hold these numbers up and say look at this look at this but i mean as perhaps that you can say that about pretty much i mean as you and i want to go back to mccain feingold john mccain had a great idea twenty five hundred only maximum those are that there is a pita with no corporate money i mean that's the argument against that one of the corporation is it was a pass a constitutional muster and i don't think speech is money i think it's property i see the money i don't think money is speech i think it's probably will the supreme court i called the industries with you and i'm sure that's what you're about to make a right. if you agree you both agree with this report yeah i do think that i'm not matter yes corporations should be people and who want to do make i mean a new and sort of ideological and philosophical discussion on this but who makes that corporations i mean what is a corporation and corporations are authorized by the laws of individual states they
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are yeah a question of the what they are going to stretch it to create but what is the who creates somewhere where does that come from secretary of state's office it's fairly limited record it's money that comes from individuals and i'm certainly come from a corporation so from a lot of there were a person of talking on top of. each that trying to make the argument that corporations are for groups for people therefore there should have rights but you know i've heard it but i think about well let's move on to trayvon martin will agree to disagree about. the ongoing trayvon martin story today congressman bobby rush was kicked off the floor a house of representatives for were in a hoodie in solidarity with trayvon family take a look at this. young. it does not make them who know. the environment teaches us this is never an amount out of line or same sex marriage says the member will see the words . and meanwhile police in sanford are reopening the investigation into
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this thing which seems like a reasonable thing but the florida shoot first was some measure referred to as the stand your ground law. this was written by the national rifle association of wal-mart the lobbyist for the weapons manufacturers and the largest gun seller in the united states wal-mart is and and it was pushed by the american legislative exchange council into the states we have over a dozen states now with absolute democrat language all of this came through alec alec is funded by the koch brothers why are corporate lobbying groups funded by eccentric billionaires writing our laws isn't this you know particularly laws that would lead to things like the police literally saying the state's attorney says we can't prosecute this guy for murdering trayvon williams or martin rather isn't this a persian of democracy we get into the weeds with the word all came but i do think i don't get the weeds i think the wall needs some of the need some it's need some fine tuning clearly when you have this kind of answer you need some specific
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language saying walk us through stand your ground it's may not be chasing after somebody or whatever happened we don't know what happened in this case i think it's a little presumptive to say this is what this is why this happened it connect the dots that way and so we know the facts i think the best part about here but you just that with that everything go oh no i don't want but a large part of the let's they've put you know bomb are the n.r.a. koch brothers right all have coalesced into this one evil law and as jeff said i don't think that we can come to that conclusion yet the investigation has been you know panned out just yet and i don't think that i think that is premature getting a law what the law does is it makes it harder to sue wal-mart because if you know justifiable homicide rate has tripled in florida since this law was passed and if somebody if it's justifiable homicide you can't sue it was sold the gun so it immunizes warner it makes more money for the n.r.a. more people are buying guns and and who does a benefit of the. i would say that benefits people who feel threatened who you know
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one of the one of the primary right in terms of natural rights you have a right to self-defense right so i'm taking that as a grain that are gaps that it's just that this law probably does need them i'm painting at the same time i think it's a little bit concerning to to discuss straight forward the idea that you can't bend yourself but i think that's one of the argument. in the last question quickly or this morning and i said we see former senator arlen specter he had the best analysis of romney flip flopping yet when he said this. romney has changed positions from the pornographic movie. so let's assume the romney is a porn star for a moment what are his favorite position be is it a bomb around military position b. sixty nine million dollars tax break c. reverse cowgirl rick perry endorsement i'm not seeing pictures change. any of what you think i've surprise you throughout oh you're very good i don't contest winners
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are yeah ok there's some of the sea abilities that straight is so ok. by those choices. of sharks. but i think it's the dog in the rough stuff so there we go there's the dog i see and hear carefully and jeff thank you very much for joining us. crazy alert there are aliens on that mountain or at least that's what a group of two hundred new age believers in france want you to think the group has flooded the small french town of blue good i like a home for the peek a boo bit our mountain and the new agers believe that inside the strangely shaped mountain is a huge secret aliens spaceship apparently a spaceship was put on earth to take the alien admirers to
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a new world and the mayan predicted end of the world comes on december twenty first of this year one of the alien bastards told the independent newspaper that the apocalypse we believe in is the end of a certain world in the beginning of another budaj is one of the major shockers of the year the place to go to welcome the energies of tomorrow and while bill bill is residents are happy about the sudden boost to their local economy not exactly thrilled by the new agers daily naked hikes up the summit of the alien a dull abode preflight probings and one in other really alien related news witnesses also report seeing a robotic pigeon surveilling the mountain or incidents or conspiracy. after the break the gruesome to some not as the koch brothers are a driving force corrupt out of ocracy power of the code's able to wander money and spend millions electing conservative lawmakers in the twenty ten election while hiding out from the rest of us what i think be up to now.
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