top stories this hour here on our t.v. petrol grips the u.k. ahead of a possible tank a driver strike and with fuel costs escalating london paris and washington consider releasing oil reserves to push prices. tens of thousands to a month just as across spain as workers protest against cuts on labor reforms with anger boiling over in riots in barcelona bring you a live picture of the moment there from spain it comes a day before the government is expected to announce more painful austerity measures . and the arab league baxi u.n. sponsored peace plan saying it must be implemented immediately and completely some members warn that the side in the conflict will trigger war driven from abroad.

so that's some of our main news stories this hour back with another update in half an hour from now in the meantime it's back to washington d.c. this time for an hour with. welcome to the lone show at the real headlines with none of the mersey are going to live in washington d.c. now tonight we're going to ask what happened so diplomacy as beloved of to a few rare voices call for caution with a wrong with russia militarism in general then as the intricacies of the affordable care act are debated in supreme court we're going to ask if it still leaves the country without an answer to its health care debacle and as european leaders say their crisis is nearing an end and u.s.

officials are pointing to signs of recovery that any of that matter as long as zombie banks are still around you know all that and more for tonight including a dose of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to miss. argyl so today we're going to start things a little bit differently but i still like to be in the show and it's not got different hello hello there we go right yesterday i spoke about the mainstream media's lack of that little thing called an attention span and we sure are going to go on stories of racial social criminal injustice for a few weeks if there is one that fits the perfect media bowl but then unfortunately they move on they forget about it and it's as if it never happened and the one thing that they've actually put in pretty consistence at however is really fanning the flames of fear every time if there is an attempted terrorist plot let's be honest very often an f.b.i. planned terror plot that's been foiled. the man accused of making pipe bombs in his

new york city apartment is in custody this morning on several terrorism related charges according to court records muhammad said he had been interested since he was an early teen twenty seven year old jose pimentel allegedly wanted to bomb the police and u.s. troops returning from the war this tape of an n.y.p.d. test the damage he could have cost now these models which are about the tenth the size of a real plane would have been filled with a plastic explosive undercover agents busting for dust as he waited for delivery of what he thought included grenades machine guns and explosives one thousand year old one hundred arts model home it was a teen anxious to go are you guys know they go big on that stuff all may as we've learned thanks investigations by other news organizations magazines blogs specifically one done by wired danger room and a counterterrorism training of the f.b.i. and local law enforcement agencies have received it incredibly problematic. an

f.b.i. training presentation which claimed that mainstream muslims sympathize with militants training material saying things like islam transforms a country's culture into seventh century arabian ways in a series of slides and titled strategic themes and drivers in islamic law it says the prophet muhammad the assassinations and executions of his critics the mohammad's mindset is a source for terrorism guy for world nut daily is now doing training for the f.b.i. for the f.b.i.'s counterterrorism officers that islam view is that there can be no peace between islam and others until gar all islam conquers and assimilates its adversaries. now unwired first broke that story and say that it was huge news it was not every network but look it was covered and that's impressive considering we rarely see you get your side of things as they are not how many homegrown terrorists we need to fear but it's in how there are big terrorism experts parading around training our law enforcement agencies and bigotry and what's really

enforcement is there there are new results to the story and ones that are going completely under covered see the f.b.i. had to do an internal review after these documents surface and after six long months finally been completed and the results are disturbing to say the least not only do we see nassib misinformation being spread but also lawbreaking civil liberties offenses to be specific they show the f.b.i. taught its agents that they could sometimes quote bend or suspend the law in their hunt for terrorists and criminals some of the training warn agents against shaking hands with asians and said the arabs were prone to quote jekyll and hyde temper tantrums and perhaps worst of all this spite all these results the review did not result anything will disappoint any action for any instructor it didn't mandate the retraining and have any f.b.i. agent and it didn't look at any intelligence reports that may have been influenced by that training now we know all this thanks to wired stranger and following up on

the story despite. the f.b.i. had no plans to disclose the entire result of this inquiry but nobody else out there seems that bothered or shocked about these results because apparently well they're completely ignoring them now once again of latent disregard for civil liberties is what we see an inability to follow up on a story and see it all the way through especially when the results are so damning i guess that it's just so much more fun for the mainstream media to stoke fear flash mugshots across the screen than it is to admit that our own operatives are the ones often bending the law and infringing upon our rights that's what they choose to miss. well these days the voices calling for calm caution diplomacy they seem to be few and far between senator harry reid trying to pass a new round of iranian sanctions through the senate without allowing any debate or any amendments but that failed because the block by senator rand paul the sanctions

were geared towards penalizing firms for iran related activities of their foreign subsidiaries as well as anybody to provide equipment to run the aids censorship or human rights abuses language also formally stated that the us policy is intended to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon so paul aimed to add an amendment that would make sure that the use of any military force would have to get congressional approval and he has this to say about it on the floor. i'm amazed that the majority party objects to an amendment that simply restates the constitution our founding fathers were quite concerned about giving the power to declare war to the executive they were quite concerned that the executive could become like a king many in this body could not get boots on the ground fast enough in a variety of places from syria to libya to iran we don't just send boots to war we send our young americans to war. you've got

a point and so did so do the more than eighty retired military officers that have written a letter to congress urging the body not to go along with paul ryan's plan to cut six billion dollars from development and diplomacy all simultaneously beefing up the facts but why are these voices asking for diplomacy in the minority joining me to discuss it more secure in new york is scott horton contributing editor on legal and national security matters for harper's magazine scott thanks for joining me and we have a couple things that i want to break down tonight but first just overall i mean are you with me if you look at what's happening you know with iran if you look at this move by paul ryan in the budget if you look at mitt romney what he's saying towards russia feel like diplomacy is just couldn't be any farther away from these people's lives. oh i'm with you absolutely i mean i think you know the united states had a long history in the nineteenth century the first half of the twentieth century of using cautious diplomacy as a tool to meet national security needs and i think what we've seen over the last of

the last several decades but really especially over the last ten years is a deterioration of that tradition and we see that especially in congress where people all the money that they can muster for guns and bombs but nothing for diplomacy they want to pull back there and i think i also think rand paul in pushing this amendment is also right on the money you know why during the two thousand and eight campaign charlie savage then from the boston globe put a question to barack obama he asked him. can the president bomb iran without first getting congressional approval setting aside cases where iran had launched an attack first and obama answered very clearly no but last year we had the example of libya in which the president certainly didn't hear to that

limitation and we have more recently president obama's speech before a packed and which he is playing up his willingness to act unilaterally and certainly nothing was said about getting congressional approval and tacking iran to eliminate their nuclear capability so frankly it would be foolish if congress didn't take the sort of step the rand paul is advocating have and sapping is that rand paul is the only one it's doing it right if you listen to harry reid people they'll say it the reason that they wanted to push this through without any amendments or patty debate is because he was concerned that people both on the right and the left wanted to tack on amendments not going to be limiting powers but they would just make these sanctions even more heavy duty and basically they told him is that we don't have time for this and don't worry because once it's done our you know went once we get this the sanctions through we're still not done with iran that sounds like they have big plans. big plans well they don't have time for it i

mean let's go back and look at what happened a year ago a little bit less than a year ago now when the first steps were taken against libya the senate adopted a resolution trying to bully obama into action and then when they did act they didn't have time for deliberation for speeches on the floor or for an acting a resolution nor did the matter so frankly i don't cry that i won't have you there with me now but you can see this you know this budget and i've spoken about this before on the show it's very obvious to me what path you're taking if you're choosing to cut money from development and diplomacy and then keep beefing up the defense budget and then you have to use more than eighty retired military officers that are writing a letter to congress say please can you pay attention to this isn't the way to do it and so then who is paul ryan listening to you know when he when he comes up with these kinds of decisions that pledge it. well you know i think it's strange that

you think back to the age of dr strangelove a new member all the journals of all the generals were sitting around the table advocating use of the bomb at the drop of a hat and what we see in america today is just exactly the reverse it's our politicians who advocate that especially people out on the campaign stump and the generals are actually models of decorum and reserve and i think what we see in this list of eighty generals and their very very senior retired figures they understand from their own experience in the military that diplomats can achieve things that they can't and that they need that diplomatic leverage and presence to accomplish the military missions they have so that's very very foolish to pull back on that i mean just think about from their perspective having a status of forces agreement having base rights having the right to fly over other countries all these things are dealt with by diplomats and let's not forget the

idea of voiding conflict to start with you know the big issue in the background in washington today about afghanistan is military policy versus diplomacy and i think there's a pretty broad acceptance now that a serious mistake has been made over the last five years and putting military tactics up front and neglecting diplomacy and politics i think they called work was arguing that was a mistake he did that very very quietly and now i think almost everybody including most people who are on the other side of him are ignalina judging that he was right . i want to ask you lastly before we go to you about mitt romney right so we've been seeing this back and forth ever since this hot mike moment between presidents obama and the eight of and romney double down he wrote an op ed in foreign policy magazine called bowing to the kremlin and he said basically one of the lines is

it's not an accident that mr medvedev is now busy attacking me the russians clearly prefer to do business with the current incumbent of the white house which i mean to me it's like well yeah he's president he's the one that's been president for four years that's actually been working with russia when it comes to reset a new start and what not but mitt romney we also did a little background here so he said the russia is the greatest foe turns out in the past he has also called china the greatest foe he's also called iran the greatest he's also pointed to islamic jihadism as the greatest foe so you know what do you make of all of these his moves here. he's a real opportunist when it comes to gray disposes me but you know i think his comments really make obama's point i mean obama's point rise when we get close to election cycles all this stuff gets demagogued in and political discussion in washington that's exactly what's going on but the issues between russia and the united states could not be more serious in fact these two countries have more than

ninety percent of the thermo nuclear devices in the world it's an arsenal of the it's getting very very old it's very difficult to maintain this stuff technologically there is a really compelling need for some agreements to reduce the size of this force and to get rid of the old and obsolete materials first and this sort of crass political rhetoric is standing in the way of it i think that's the reason why barack obama says we've got to get past the elections before we can and that's a shame for russia the united states in the world now i think of shame for american fear that i think a parent there think of after so many years of war i think that everyone else would also like everyone to calm down a little bit want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. break me with a hard time for a quick break but when the freezer when we return it looks like the obama health care mandate could very likely be overturned by the supreme court not often enough

as people from all sides of the political spectrum sharing a little baby conundrum that is our health care system after the break. the law.

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officers they get off the hook because internal affairs investigations are farcical the people in charge of prosecuting and judging miscreate officers have been new york city police officers frankly impartial observers are they well now there's been a change to that this is a billion complaints were viewed board will now be prosecuting overzealous and y.p. officers thanks to an agreement between the city council the mayor and y.p. commissioner ray kelly now before. they have nearly receive the complaints they were determined if they were substantiated and then handed over to the police for judgment and so i'm surprisingly. to get off the hook more often than not according to an advocate group called citizens a union between two thousand and two and twenty ten c c r b recommended the maximum punishment for two thousand and seventy eight officers now but it was doled out only one hundred fifty one times so based on the odds here a little what happened when officers committed acts like the.

the i'm. the guy. it's not just brutality against occupy wall street or the n.y.p.d. through surveillance of muslims liberal groups corruption cases the integrity of crime data and stop and frisk practices of all that isn't clamoring for more oversight and in fact just today the new york civil liberties union filed a federal class action lawsuit against the department for the dock and for its stop and frisk policy the civil liberties advocates contend that four million innocent new yorkers were unjustly detained between two thousand and four and two thousand and eleven and the group also said an operation called clean halls which allows police to put apartment buildings largely populated by blacks and latinos under siege of n.y.c. i'll use executive director john a lieberman so that the residents of clean halls buildings take in the garbage out shaking the mail i can result being thrown against the wall and humiliated by

police untold numbers of people been wrongly arrested for trespassing because they had the audacity to leave their apartment without i.d.'s or visit friends and family who live in clean halls buildings but if these new oversight regulations work out and police overreach might not have to be contested in federal courts thanks to the c.c. are these new powers granted this development isn't exactly earth shattering for one the p.c. rb awaits the funds to properly staff its new prosecution unit secondly police department officials will still serve as judges on the cases and finally commissioner ray kelly will still keep the also ready to veto the c.r.-v. decision but this new oversight does have powers or significant kelly is going to have to explain in writing his reasons for vetoing decisions the board itself and the board can appeal sillies veto and these changes might not cause the department has done misbehaving overnight but it's a bring court associate justice we've louis brandeis once said sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant electric light the most efficient policeman and this new

found transparency should help new yorkers more effectively police abuse of cops so in that ray of sunlight there is a glimmer of hope. now this week a bit over the affordable care act has taken center stage here in washington as a supreme court for the last three days here are arguments each day to focus on different aspects and whether or not a court can rule on the legislation at all because the penalty has gone into effect yet yesterday the most crucial day questioning the constitutionality of the individual mandate and today the question as to whether or not the rest of the law can still stand if the mandate is struck down but the debate over the mandate has been interesting what people on the left and the right position so the end of the day if it does or doesn't get struck down words that leave us are there any real solutions to america's health care debacle or discuss this with me as republican presidential candidate fred karger and kevin zeese co-director of it's our economy the organizer of the national occupation of washington d.c.

time and thank you both for joining me tonight and for starters this is a really big deal when the last time you can tell me that you saw a supreme court case get this much attention we know it's been like forty five years since we've ever seen a five have six hours of oral arguments allowed to be held but i mean really this is a huge deal. ok so i can hear. this because that election supreme court decision that's going to affect the president and it's toast it's over we might as well just start planning a new policy and i think it should be left to the states we've had a success in massachusetts i give governor romney credit for that and i think each state is very different we should have a fifty state plan i like what maryland has done under their program where they contain costs of procedures so i think we go back to the drawing board this was a compromise it's we made no one happy and i think we start over we do it quickly so you think it's toast do you think it starts kind of i don't want it to be he has a very close question that comes down to just as he showed both sides. you know

when he talked about this being from the military and police this is the government and where is a stop where is the line but also the makers by. but then you sort of see that maybe the insurance industry is different that we could stop you could just be one of them my hope is that they finally ended unconstitutional and he's wrong for the government tell people to buy some corporate product i disagree that we should go to the states and we have a fifty state solution there's a there's an evidence based solution exists both the united states and throughout the world medicare is that the most successful part of our health care the most efficient part of health care people on medicare excellent and it's a single payer system we have a private delivery system so doctors hospitals nurses or private or you know a public funding system and the reason that works and because you have a big funding pool and that's what makes it official our before we get into this is instinct that we have we have left that we have a right that all think of this is unconstitutional let me just throw maybe a few of the justifications you know some of the legally is that we heard from

justice prior yesterday he gave this hypothetically said this is the this weeping at the u.s. forty million people are susceptible of whom ten million will die can't the federal government say that all forty million get an occupation i mean does that make sense to you think about the good legal argument for why the mandate should stand i think that's a good argument for single payer i mean the problem the mandate is it doesn't solve the problem even the best estimates for the mandate leave us with twenty million uninsured in ten years just last week a congressional budget that was a report that showed that twenty million employers are going to get rid of their insurance for employees so you're going to lose twenty million people there to medicaid is shrinking rather than spending it's not going to cover the people who promised so this is the real issue with this law sizably it's not a solution we have a solution we're going to do is take two words out of the medicare long law over sixty five strike those two words we have a national plan that's approvingly effective it's been in existence since one thousand nine hundred eighty five it works it works it works so i also believe in

this case are we not going to get anywhere even if this constitutional mandate is over you know if it is overturned we have single payer. and then we have let it let it all be left to the states and we just can't afford to insure every single american by the federal government standard or take care of every single american as a federal government i think we need to return it to the states there are things that can be done to lower health care costs too there's a lot of fraud out there we talked about medicare there's certainly a lot of medicare fraud health care is changing we have nurse practitioners now working out of big stores walgreens and cosco those people can get health care at least at the initial stage through through their practitioners and then prevent these astronomical health care costs and then something i've advocated my campaign and i even give away frisbees all over this country we need to get fit america needs to take care of itself we need to concentrate on diet and exercise and i've been advocating that that will prevent a tremendous amount of health care costs and put much less pressure on our

government to take care of so many americans i don't play a clip because you know but basically what they were discussing today to you is that if the mandate is struck down there are some parts of this legislation that are incredibly popular i think the latest poll from new york times c.b.s. and it eighty five percent of americans support this rule that you cannot be denied health insurance because of you know because of preexisting conditions but then i thought mitt romney said last think like. people with preexisting conditions long as they've been insured before they're going to be able to continue to have a drug suppose they were never sure that well if they get their forty five years old and a short of this they want to assure us because i've got a heart disease it's like hey guys we can't play the game like that you got to get insurance when you're well and then if you get ill then you're going to be covered . reaction. well he sure knows the put his foot in the mouth pretty regularly and i think you know in fact i think the master's laws working all that well tell you truth there are robbing from the public health system to fund the subsidies for insurance and so it's really not working all that

well it's going to it's actually bankruptcies and related to health care in massachusetts have continue to be staggeringly high people with insurance two thirds people with insurance who have a health crisis and open bankruptcy even if insurance i just think if you look at the facts for it and i know you haven't you're campaigning for years so it's hard look at facts i know it's hard when your campaign look at anything but if you look at the facts what you're going to see is that a fifty state solution won't work you want the biggest pool possible in order and you can do it doesn't stop experimentation of the states you can allow flexibility the state level but you need to have a fifty state payer system so everybody's in nobody's out we can have the most efficient medicare is a three percent overhead health insurance is a sixteen to seventeen percent overhead plus they have a lot of bureaucracy to doctors and hospitals and businesses and consumers make up thirty one percent of the cost of health care we need to get rid of the insurance industry get them out of the middle between doctor and patient that would give us the most freedom by the way fred i want to throw i want to float an idea here way

to talk about this concept of everybody being in rather than choosing if you want to be a part of it this is something of value with what you can live like right about yesterday and so you know she talked about how a lot of this came up because of the concept of liberty is the government imposing upon your liberty by mandating that you buy health insurance but after looking at the arguments that the supreme court justices heard after listening to what they said she got the opinion from the conservative viewpoint that you know in america's highest court freedom seems to be less about the absence of constraint but about the absence of shared responsibility community or real concern for those who don't want anything so much as healthy children might be cared for when they're old. so when you say that we there shouldn't be just one poor that everyone is a part of i was saying that i don't want to dirty my hands hell no no i think we need to offer basic health care to everyone in this country we're not sweden we're not great britain we're not can there were three hundred seven million people so it

becomes a big challenge i want to open up competition i don't i well i'm not a fan of the insurance industry i think the insurance industry with competition there are only three providers in california for me to choose from as a california resident let's open up one hundred insurance companies bring cost down that way and i think i have phase that phase in the commons in the public sector and private sector working together but i think we need to do it in the states i think we can work very well with the states take the messages that we play in which is different there than in new mexico where we would have a different plan and what's nice about how here fred is the competition switches the doctors competition for the best doctors opposed the best insurance policy that's where the competition should be are going to have to wrap it up i want to thank you both for joining me and i think but this is the problem right this is the fundamental problem in america that it's not solved at some point but country's going to go broke and yet you know it's like how many decades for us to get here and to get it finally in into a piece of legislation add to the supreme court and still.