you know that's that's probably my only saving grace. and this is our team you. have another short break when we come back. and then the f.b.i. the outgoing cyber cop says the losing the war against conquered america just isn't working. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you know here's the part of it and realize that everything is. the big.

mystery. but in the alone itself you know there's a real headline with none of the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . is the state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to the us. i'm not for so intel on tonight's program earlier this week we talked about the entrance of occupy wall street movement which has been declared all but dead by the media all the occupiers promised a resurgence so do you think we'll see in odell the u.s. style american spring let's go to producer patrice in a sense a to find out what you have to say. i'm on the streets of d.c. to tell people in the nation's capital what our viewers have to say on twitter facebook and youtube and.

as we head into the spring and summer we asked our viewers will we see a real. movement so i'm going to read your response. there will be a resurgence in the end of may and beginning of june when students responsible for a large part of the movement will be out of school. i think that as the weather gets better in school and we get closer to the election the issues that inequality are going to grow if you want to keep. i would say yes. this election draws nearer and the weather starts to get warmer you probably will see a resurgence of the political. movement. will get back to the drawing board. whatever viewers till this minute you definitely not nowhere near an occupy wall street style american spring since wall street does not have a cohesive plan of attack nor does it have

a fully formed list of reasonable demands do you want to keep it or delete my don't agree. it is an have a hold the. compete as he goes on you know we i mean it. has run its course. shouldn't stop until they reach their goal is obviously washington isn't getting the message do you want to. whether washington his message or not it's going. to dislodge the status quo with their people think the movement is over not by was she is a ready made plans next month they will have a ninety nine percent spring training across the country and there's already a general strike in the works for may so we'll. just have to wait to find out.

and thanks for your responses as usual all right here's our next question to you earlier in the show we discussed the brics summit taking place right now in india and the blocs plan to move away from using the gawler as the reserve currency so why do you think some of the largest economies in the world making the move away from the dollar is not bigger news let us know what you think on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make it on air. well the f.b.i. is hot cyber cop shawn henry is leaving the bureau and he has a departing message for the american people there is a war going on a war against hackers and he says the united states is losing it's a dire warning we've heard from u.s. officials many times before. the next pearl harbor that we confront could very well be a cyber attack that cripples or our power system certainly our grid this is a matter of national security a cyber attack on america can do as much or more damage today by incapacitating our

banks or communications or our our finances or institution as a conventional war could come not only from a few extremists in suicide vests but from a few keystrokes on the computer. and he says the f.b.i. has been forced into a defensive position against increasingly talented hunkers private companies are simply unable or unwilling to protect their networks oftentimes unaware that they've even been hacked the private public approach is failing us but all of the apocalyptic warnings that beg the question what should be done more regulation more money joining us to answer those questions as jim harper director of information policy studies at the cato institute jim first of all is there a war against hackers and are we losing it let's call it a war is overstatement and it's about cyber terrorism is overstatement cyber security is thousands of real problems with qaeda networks and can. hooter's

problems that hundreds of thousands of people and institutions work on over many many years it's not a war and there's no terrorism until we can settle down and work on these problems seriously without throwing up our hands or we're giving it all to the federal government to work on and that this term cyber terrorism and cyber war of course john henry says that and we've also heard from leon panetta from president obama i'm wondering what you think is sort of the end game here is it just simply more regulation and more money devoted to the well when you've got thousands of problems to work on what do you do not think about fixing them all think about who should be responsible for them but the goal in washington is to move this all to washington to make federal agencies responsible whether it's the department of defense or the department of homeland security i think the better approach is to put responsibility where it lies now which is that with the owners of the data with the owners of the networks and the owners of the computers they lose money if they fail to secure their infrastructure from the moment that they that they do fail fail you may know owners of the computers you so if we're talking about computers at a large corporation it's would be the heads of the corporation that are responsible

through the heads will the corporation itself so we won't we don't want to cybersecurity bail out with the government coming in and fix the good narrative for our businesses business is that fail to secure their own infrastructure should fail it's good for all of us because it will strengthen the ones that remain because we need those processes to continue working rather than hand cybersecurity over the government to fix for everybody maybe not fix it all right they haven't made it a priority so i know that you wrote about this and you called the cyber security act of two thousand and twelve a soviet style cyber security or regulation what's so dangerous about this bill will its centralization of processes that really should be dispersed look the internet or the internet's brilliance is the fact that it's dispersed the genius of it is that people across the internet can communicate with one another work on problems together what do we do to secure the internet put it in the hands of a single federal government agency to try to fix all the thousands hundreds of thousands of problems you had he's bringing corporate sectors in and in the regulators saying you have to do this you have to do this you have to fill up. paperwork you have to certify you've done them well that stuff isn't fixing

problems the job is to fix problems leave with people who will lose money if they don't fix problems and you're likely to see a lot better focus. what do you think i mean do you think that the public is especially susceptible to these attacks by hackers because they see news of this over and over and you know i mean are they are they just more worried is it fear mongering what's going on here there's a lot of fear mongering the public doesn't really know how all these problems work either and so they're susceptible to hearing that there cyberterrorism you know what they saw in the movies resonates what you hear in washington what you hear in hollywood are pretty similar let me start to think it's real actually kind of boring it's patching your software doing smart things encouraging employees not to give away their passwords or do all the things that allow data to speak compromised there will be years and years of learning about how to secure things and there's no sense this isn't a real problem but it's nothing like war it's nothing like terrorism we're going to be all right and lots of work has to be done i tell you what i went through

a few years ago here in washington i went to a cyber security conference of all of the big wigs former heads of just about every agency in their town there and they sort of staged a mock cyber security attack it was on everybody's cell phone i mean anyone who downloaded the app for the march madness that. they staged that it just went to show how much could happen now and how you know the connection to the computers and the outs on our phones and computers could actually lead to violence i mean is this just. there's very very little chance it could happen you know the stuxnet virus you know in iran had some connecticut effect that is it is real world damage but it is very well placed real world that we are real world image and just a little bit and it was produced by the united states and perhaps israel real world damage from cyber security will happen very rarely it hasn't happened almost any other place and when it does it will be small it'll be contained the worst thing that could happen to the average person is perhaps. financial network going down if

you're not able to get some cash out of the a.t.m. well them take the day off work something to be really scared let's talk about the cybersecurity industry itself in fact mr henry is leaving his government position to go work for a private security firm is this sort of the next rooming industry should we tell college students now that this is what you should major and there's already a big business in quote unquote cybersecurity and a lot of people love to go in through the revolving door to go into the cybersecurity business and they're some of the chief spokespeople arguing that this is the biggest thing since nuclear terror it's not what they do stand to make a lot of money it's worth watching who's talking about these things sometimes the mainstream press won't tell you but michael mcconnell works for a government contractor that stands to make millions tens of billions perhaps under eighty dollars on cyber security expert right that's right he knows if you think there's no two ways about that he has a point of view but he's selling and maybe he's literally selling. and you talked about sort of the money involved here i know the u.s. government is expected to spend ten and a half billion dollars

a year on this by twenty fifteen analysts have estimated that the worldwide market is as much as one hundred forty billion a year the defense department says it's taking more than three point two billion in funding just for this year what's sort of the story behind these numbers there will there is there is something the u.s. government can do which is to be a smart purchaser of hardware software and services itself so that to the extent it is spending money on cybersecurity in the stuff that it buys that's actually a good idea and that will improve the market for secure hardware software and services throughout so you can't just say that all cyber security spending is waste but trying to corral the private sector into following government cybersecurity mandates probably a mistake obviously the u.s. government's a huge buyer of technology and it should be a smart buyer you could tell things that way. your perspective has really when you when you look at this topic as discussed in the mainstream media there is so such very little skepticism so it's good to have you on here and sort of giving. the other side of the story jim harper director of information policy studies at the

cato institute. so it was an eye for the pentagon's love of spending your tax dollars earned venice nights told time award and also stick around for happy hour reporter is outed by a competitor for being a super plus reports a dominic strauss kahn that loves luggage i'll explain and just know. you don't see a story at the scene so you think you understand it and then you know here's the part of it and realize that everything you say you don't know i'm sorry is a big. mystery

. but in the aloneness so you know there's a real headline with none of the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters for those viewers and so that's like young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . is the state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like.

russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to the u.s. . time now for tonight's tool time award and this time it's going to the pentagon we've discussed the f. thirty five program on the show it time and time again you know the most expensive defense program ever the one that's been riddled with problems and allays the jets have been grounded for everything from valve issues to parachute problems in the past few months and let's not forget to mention that the persistently faulty planes

are hopelessly and absurdly over budget and last month the pentagon announced they would postpone the production of one hundred seventy nine of the two thousand four hundred forty three f. thirty five that they will eventually order have a goal to save fifteen point one billion dollars over the next five years following that announcement australia also decided to delay their order of after thirty five and. it's a cut its order from one hundred thirty one planes to ninety well after the pentagon announced the production postponement ahead of lockheed martin had this to say about the announcement he said it will raise the overall average cost of the total procurement of all the airplanes bought. sound like a used car salesman much get it now with this one time rock bottom never better offer but in reality the f. thirty five aren't going for rock bottom prices they're going for billions of dollars and counting just as we obtained new productions from the pentagon about the ballooning cost of the f. thirty five and the numbers aren't good for the total cost of the f.

thirty five program but from one trillion dollars to one point forty five trillion that is a four hundred fifty billion dollar increase in just the last year with the price per aircraft jumping fifteen billion dollars but i wasn't kidding now that price includes inflation for the course of the program and nevertheless the price tag for the future of the u.s. rider program seems to be going up up and away and it really just seems like someone needs to stop and say hey this is out of control this project is a failure but we all know that won't happen and listen to secretary of state at the time robert gates back in two thousand and nine when he spoke about the f. thirty five program. we obviously have a huge investment in this aircraft it is the heart of the future of tactical combat aviation for our services. gave gates that we were heavily invested back in two thousand and nine while the investment just seems to keep on growing the f.

thirty five program has truly become the too big to fail of the defense world and really it should come as no surprise that the government has no intentions of bailing on the program given the fact of the company producing the f. thirty five lockheed martin seems to have a very cozy relationship with the government lockheed martin scored what many saw as a major victory in the obama administration's twenty thirteen budget so lockheed will have a monopoly on the fighter industry in the united states just last week alone and talk to derrick rose from brave new films and have this to say about the relationship between the government and lockheed martin they have thirty five's a prime example it was approved by a gentleman and pete aldridge who right after he got out of proving that standing and then submitted twenty two spending which is another likely product that month he went to work for lockheed martin on their payroll. oh surprise surprise the revolving door played a part in the beginning of this f. thirty five disaster and let's not forget the other project eric brought up the f.

twenty two another lockheed martin project plagued with issues remember last fall when the entire fleet was grounded after they found antifreeze and oil fumes in the blood of the pilots on the program that's on the road to success but it seems that in the pentagon lockheed martin can do no wrong and the f. thirty five project will march on or not or how long it takes and how much money it ends up costing and for that the pentagon is tonight's tool time winner. all right joining me now for happy hour is lauren lyster host of the capital account and our t.v. producer jenny churchill thanks so much for being on at the girl garvey they. guys always think that wouldn't when girls get together a party there's always poll a fight they could go if i'm not having on the show girls we'll see what happens at

about seven minutes ok so first person i google is allowing its users meaning you and me to monitor their own online activity and when they began it letting people get monthly reports which summarize all the places you've been on the internet. let's say a local news stories cover this so let's hear it. but there are also overwriting of software tools that are available online for you to track what your children are doing to monitor what they're doing. all right so this is called the account activity feature and one of my space for them to let us kind of check up on where we've been but i guess also a reminder of they know where we've been the most absurd thing i've ever seen you know everyone's freaking out because google's new privacy settings have them aggregating all of your information from all of their sites in one place and now they're going well we're going to make that information available to you now it's

a good thing because you can monitor what's going on with your account yet like there is now that makes it ok anybody that wants to actually see their account activity on google it has way too much because we already spend so much time on google products if you really get a lot of thing that you've got some serious issues i really honestly believe that this is all about them trying to spin this in a way that makes it seem like they're doing it when really they're all in your business i don't disagree with you there i don't think i mean i think a if anything it's a reminder to know that they've probably been monitoring us this whole time now here's proof that they know sort of where we've been proof in the form of a gift i know exactly let's talk now about lauren you like me are from california and when i worked in local news there i was always doing stories about the next smoking ban first it was banned from restaurants and it was banned from the restaurant and it was banned from parks and beaches all turns out this week the city of el guerrouj health grove california began discussions to ban smoking from

rental apartments but california apartment association and the rental housing association of sacramento valley are opposed to the smoker rappelling measure and there's other areas as well that are kind of talking of a sicko. over the last decade smokers across the country have been on the defense pushed out of offices restaurants and books new york city's the war against tobacco will step further with a new law that goes into effect to morrow. to beaches boardwalks parks street plans. so if you're a smoker maybe you just shouldn't live in new york or california if you're becoming a pariah you're getting squeezed out of everywhere but no i really do have major problems with a smoking ban on rental units because that should be up to whoever owns apartment building that if they want to have a no smoking apartment or a smoking smoker friendly apartment i think it should be like pat you know it's up to them to have the city come in and say this is a benefit i think

a huge breach of people's individual rights rights i actually this is so weird we're green so much and feel kind of uncomfortable but i want to argue i know i couldn't agree more though because i can't imagine that when a government goes and says you aren't able to do this in your own home you know i think that's a little crazy i know these people don't own their homes but they rent and you know what are they going to be doing not saying that people who are gay that live in a part of buildings can't be having sex in those apartments i mean there are there are no limits on i don't think that there's no i mean this it's not i don't think it is because smoking does affect other people if you're renting in a unit smoke comes in from the unit next to you are that happened in my apartment all the time or it's not horrible. as you get into the paint and the walls but like you said were not should be up to the building owners the sodomy laws first of all those you know that one of those was. on i don't know how they monitor about the smoking as well is there and you know that doesn't affect anybody else someone's it individual right if you're right. i gather you need more money than just yourself i

don't think we need the government coming into our place of living where we choose what we do in telling us what to do in any manner of our lives i really i think it's a little more sticky when you talk about sort of the laws. for parents smoking in their cars if there's children in those maybe there's a little more for discussion i want to move on because this is a really good story apparently a reporter in houston she writes because some chronicle she's a conservative reporter twenty nine year old sarah trust or wasn't making here's a picture of her she was making enough money i guess working as a reporter so she had another job there she is there in her stripper outfit now. here's what happens when you have you know they say this is a very cutthroat competitive business so richard connelly a reporter with the houston press found out about her other job and did an exposé about her. found out that she also keeps a facebook and twitter profile and blog using the pseudonym angry stripper. and she

was shamed well love you know she was not shamed asport she had an angry stripper blog where she blogged in detail about stripping including the preferences of we are customers and our nipple fetish is i mean it's not about alfie import this is absurd and she tries to. you know not ok doesn't god after her it doesn't matter what she was asking for what she got was an interview tomorrow morning on good morning america so i'm going to say she. was hot yes exactly this is the best thing that ever happened in this i mean she was a spy i don't think she cares that she was a stripper she had a blog she had photos you know it's unfortunate for her i think in her eyes that she lost her job as a society writer but i think she's going on to bigger and better thing and as a society writer it's not like she's you know this is some conflict of interest with our hard news you know crime fighting reporting you know she's covering party she's on the social circuit it's basically like a who's who of society the losers here the jokes are on her bosses at that

conservative houston paper who have been sending a stripper to all the conservative ladies who lunch benefit the joke is really on her coworkers who apparently ratted her out to this other newspaper because they were jealous that i didn't. that she was walking around in that she bought with her stripper money that the current reporters that we see around here in washington aren't so designer early drafts are you already nice enough for that come on jerry lee make money and let everyone know that let me move on really quick let's talk about dominique strauss on the former head of the i.m.f. such a lovely little guy and an extrovert as we remember he was accused of sexually assaulting a hotel maid that case was dropped but he's not totally out of the woods yet he apparently is involved in possibly another scandal referring to women as luggage and equipment and texts he sent as well as alleged pimps with whom he is accused of planning a string of sex parties sex part sex and sex parties according to

a leeds transcript of his police questioning his minutes of police that he used inappropriate language calling women luggage he. just what do you guys think about this i mean really surprised no one has been charged with aggravated pimping which is like a funny charge even though it's i guess a serious offense but i do think this gets a little sticky because prostitution is illegal. but it's legal in france but pimping is not so it gets a little confusing because what ok so if you ask your friends to bring prostitutes now you're aggravated and the fact that he called them luggage i mean i think it's funny that they had code words that if i brought it all right i think it's ironic i think it's telling people as in the supposable i don't like luggage we are out of ammo you're out of time ladies sadly but it is good to have a long history and any churchill that's going to do it for tonight's show thanks so much for tuning and sort of come back tomorrow they would helps a founding member of the bradley manning support network will be on the show to

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