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i'm mr. it's friday are you ready to join you for tonight's big picture rumble our brian darling senior fellow for government studies the heritage foundation a blogger for the daily mail sam sex progressive commentator and vince colonies senior editor with the daily caller thank you all for joining me tonight great to see you all again obamacare obamacare or actually is going to be decided or was decided today most likely to change their minds in the secret meeting the supreme court had if the individual mandate is struck down according to the vice president of blue cross blue shield yesterday the health insurance market will melt down she
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said if they strike down the mandate keep everything else somebody could buy an insurance policy in the ambulance on the way to the hospital and cancel it when they leave the hospital and you know which is a disaster on the other hand they strike down the whole thing there's over one hundred million americans and preexisting conditions which means that the insurance companies. all you know athletes are a third of us republican attorney general buddy caldwell of the great state of louisiana was one of the twenty six positives in this case so in the government and here's what he had to say about why he thought obamacare should go down. that you don't think the subsidies to low income people to buy health insurance are going to be helpful no no the worst thing you can do is give it to an insurance company i want to make my insurance company absolute worst people to handle this town a bit of i trust the government my. so you go to put forth
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a policy where they will pay for everything and you don't have to go through an insurance company to be a whole lot. so here you've got the attorney general louisiana calling for single payer universal health care should we take his advice no definitely no he's wrong and when you make all those assertions about what's going to happen if the court strikes it down strikes down the individual mandate it's because president obama put forth a plan that's unconstitutional if you want to be honest and have a single payer system or have it be part of the tax policy of the united states you should have done it but you didn't why did your heritage foundation propose it five years ago so we didn't we didn't very clear that it's unconstitutional it was appearing to do with a heritage over there not it did not originate with the heritage foundation the heritage foundation was part of a bunch of different think tanks to look at this idea and at one point i thought it was a good idea but it was it's unconstitutional here is not a dog authorized by the u.s. constitution in eighty nine in ninety one the heritage foundation wrote papers
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supporting individual mandate it was newt gingrich's main alternative to bill clinton when he was proposing health reform and romney put it is the cornerstone of his health care plan too was when obama proposed it but suddenly it's it's crazy unconstitutional so there was some sort of thought that happened superposed to be clear here president obama also flip flopped i mean he was against the mandate for four years for pleasure and i think but sam's right i mean conservatives don't have a good track record when it comes to the individual mandate republicans have supported this and they came under the notion that if we have some sort of personal responsibility associated with the individual mandate the problem is as conservatives have i think rightly noted now is that this is the government forcing you to purchase a product and it's an overreach and it may very well be ruled that way by the supreme court and you mentioned how is it that the court can throw this out this is all the damage that we do but the truth is the fault for that does lay at obama's feet if this gets struck down it's because it's an issue of constitutionality. and
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if the whole august thrown out it means that they so tightly packaged this thing that it's incapable of a function of the residual force arguably begin eighty six with cobra when reagan signed into law a bill that said that if somebody is sick in the shop at the hospital they have to be treated which means that everyone i'm assuming we all have health insurance every one of us is panic thousand dollars a year to pay for those people who don't have health insurance that's a mandate yeah but it's but that there can be relating to giving raises now you're saying that the use of the hospitals have to take a patient when they come in right it's a different idea the only thing that people who don't want to buy health insurance don't want to buy a product in the stream of congress have to be forced to buy it that would mean that the government could say you need to buy shares in the whole idea is not so i assume well this is you know show you also have to do with life and death why isn't then the solution what the attorney general louisiana proposed which is let's just make it a tax let's say like every other country france they you know i find it hard to understand how you get to
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a point where you want the government controlling health care because if the government does it whether it whether it's truly whether any of their group whether it's really whether it be through a single payer system like you're suggesting or this is going to health care this is health insurance for doctors that's right in your health but there but the but the issue with they get to decide what they pay out this is a health insurance right have and it would you rather have steve and i have examples cited that would you rather the government become the only health insurer and then it has the up to the opportunity to change your lifestyle at a whim because voters don't agree with it this is the government that i can vote into office and i can vote out of office yeah absolutely you agree with every other person that votes instead it will go it's versus the for profit corporations who control whatever you want you have no recourse on what to do i mean those if they really do and other corporations that's that's all right but when all they have achieved their trusted working together on this exactly they have their trust exemptions and you have no recourse and whatever the the corporations do and as we see it health results in other parts of the world this kind of single payer now.
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tional system seems to be working a lot of it is we're not here this is not one side of the coin or the other this is not reform or nothing conservatives have had an obligation especially if obamacare has not been for my question is do republicans have an alternative and i said no that's because you don't think he's right or is he we're just asked that question i was like oh but you're working with a great job of it but we're out of time on this letter let's move on spain is was locked down yesterday the need for a belief was and yesterday and following you know this austerity budget got laid on them the same thing happened in greece the same thing happened in italy the same thing happened in the u.k. austerity crashes economies then comes paul ryan i've got an austerity budget for you why do republicans not only that he wants to give a three trillion dollars tax cut to billionaires while he's cutting everything from the f.d.a. and the food inspection service and the e.p.a. and then and then food stamps i don't get it is this really the vision of america
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that you publicans want to run under and actually the wrong you're wrong i mean you're saying that austerity is crashing music on a museum it's too much government these government spent too much did these big welfare states look at the sweden has a much larger welfare state that gives the least a look at their debt to g.d.p. ratio or greece is not doing is they're not enforcing it only tax court greece's biggest problem other than the fact that goldman sachs put them in this situation the first place fly by putting together an illegal scheme you know about this. which is what got greece and it will be odd that they don't tax their millionaires that is that there's too much government in greece and the people is not so much never it's they have a huge welfare state all the way has to be interwoven sweden has a bigger one sweden they are having dinner one day hasn't happened in their home and it's going to the united states we're going down the same road i don't think any one of the panel is a really extreme libertarian if you are bryan but look there are certain things that the government needs to provide to the people and paul ryan's budget takes non-defense discretionary spending basically every. that's not spent on the
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military and medicare and stuff like that off of the military that's military spending so no he doesn't read things on just what is the the cuts that was i would agree upon by that i guess that's one of their automatic supposed to but then thanks to the committee or something where it was because they were going to do something yeah whatever anyways he takes out of your discretionary spending cuts into its lowest level in fifty years when the population was half of what it is today and that's just your responsible and our government cannot function or take care of its citizens with spending at that low to leave while meanwhile he is closing tax loopholes i mean that's he's goal is to now one of the things i know you think will subsidies the idea is that if you can lower the tax rate overall one you can incentivize business to come back to the united states the others if you can close tax loopholes that actually is revenue generating you won't hear democrats or liberals and these games are no longer about states because of taxes business is leaving the united states because in china they can get people to work united states thirty dollars i eat corporate tax running mexico they can get people to work for one hundred dollars a week the u.s.
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has the highest corporate tax rate where exxon mobil pay thirteen percent on forty one billion dollars we have that we have among the lowest tax collections in the developed world corporate tax collections we have during the eisenhower administration corporations paid thirty five percent the cost of government now it's down to eleven percent because when you go up there is a reason people are paying a higher percentage according the o.e.c.d. in the united states than they are in most other countries we have the most progressive you're talking all the easy you know all the countries of the world so yes talking about somalia mozambique and its people that's on the highest percentage try in the only side of countries try when you compare it to just the developed countries yet if you want to compare us to the third world our rich people are paying more because for the and we got rich people if it is to compare it with a whole year compares to the third world when you want to talk about wealth inequality or how many people we execute a year but i don't consider europe to be the third world yeah they're on their way with all their overspending but they're not quite there yet well let's let's get into oil subsidies that speaking of loopholes
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a majority of senators voted fifty one voted to cut off tens of billions of dollars in subsidies to oil companies yesterday. who would cut it republican fifty one percent this is a majority used to be that that would mean it would become law but now under the new rules the republicans ever since the obama presidency you have to have sixty votes because the republicans have this unified filibuster they're going to defend the oil companies they meanwhile are in the house they're cutting programs for poor people for middle class people cut pell grants cut college loans cut everything i can i you know oh and by the way these four forty seven senators who are out being you know working to support big oil they collected twenty three million dollars in campaign contributions from big oil and natural gas which is four times the amount that the fifty one senators in aggregate who voted against people will collect it isn't this the best government money can buy and that's a really interesting stat because when it came it comes down to wall street reform through the volcker rule the senators who oppose the volcker rule are also
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collecting four times as much money from wall street as the senators who don't oppose it so it really is the best ever money doesn't surprise me that business is support people that are free market that are in the better on the hill that doesn't surprise us is that what you're trying to be of what i'm what is why is there every one of the one of the elements of this that we're not talking about is that that these oil subsidies that we're talking about the vote wasn't strictly on oil subsidies it was how the money would be spent should they do this and now you have twenty two billion or so dollars that they would collect over ten years from this after that money would go through green or green resources green renewable energy stuff and the president doesn't mean we wouldn't be addicted it was right and the president came out and said we've had a long track record of this being successful which is not true by any stretch of the imagination particularly during the obama administration this was not a very they have laid want to fill the loan facility and that is ruining all investments are you going to run no not at all fisker automotive i mean that that's not a glowing twenty oversee energy department had this is can be is produced by wind but let's let me tell you how this is not this is not you know you want to talk
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about corruption what about all the money the obama administration the obama campaign's collecting. from wall street wall street was one of the contributors seventy percent of all the money from wall street has grown to the romney campaign ninety one percent of all the money from wall street this election cycle has gone to republican most of the money now used to president obama which is running the first time of his t.v. the bungalow you're up one day you're already running so this bill will still be running with like one of his chief collectors is probably going to get a lot this is going to resume again bankrupted out of although there's no doubt i'm not arguing that this is it what you're saying is what you are defending a system was corrupted by money i don't get it well that's so you're saying that president obama is not going to be cross with the insider who is going to spend in this campaign absolutely stipulate both soviet era so let's get money out of politics you know because then you would have the government running politics and you don't govern as the sponsor guy you're written in the people if you could redo anybody that people would be look at you believe we are at
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a more rubble coming up after the break. for. a. few. so you think you understand it. and realize. there's a big. bump
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in the alone if you know there's a real headline with none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers from what actually matters . that's like young people don't watch t.v. if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. .
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the big picture all joining for tonight's rubble are brian darling senior fellow for government studies at the heritage foundation of water with the daily mail sam sacks progressive writer and strategist and. editor of color let's get back to it george zimmerman another week another week of freedom for good old george and a.b.c. released video footage earlier this week. that showing that zimmerman who was at the sanford police station at the night of the shooting here is it's on screen doesn't seem to be all that injured it's like you know vanishing evidence there's no grass stains there's no blood there's no very much nothing meanwhile fox so-called news continues to paint martin as the aggressor in the attack they
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continue to repeat all these oh he was viciously attacked things are conservatives or why is the conservative media defending zimmerman why is the liberal media jumping to conclusions how do we know that his nose wasn't broken how do we know that because he's in the video we know that his head was in bashed against the ground see in the video you can't see any of that in the video you can hear anybody whose nose is broken or not. i don't think i seen a couple of broken noses and they were always i don't want to i want to you know law i watch that video you can tell it was yours you would see the blood on someone sure but what but what we do know is that somebody shot and killed somebody else and there's virtually no evidence other than what he says other than what zimmerman says that he was acting in self-defense in any other state that doesn't have the sort of stand your ground laws there would have been at least manslaughter charges or something brought against him but he's being protected by this law which is you know fox is in the same boat as the american legislative exchange council that we're going to happen here is you have a lot of really terrible players and if i think the police department probably
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stocks i think the both both and individuals in this if your goal if you don't look as anybody should have spent time doing crime reporting you could always doubt everybody has got everybody involved with the case because zimmerman still you know they have the police department supposedly still conducting an investigation the idea that this could be brought before the public for the public to decide this based on this video now that they were called out we actually pointed out that there is some sort of visible laceration or something else in society or eater and stuff photo that's right that we and we should and we showed what appears to be some sort of vertical feet on the back of the head and it's complemented by the fact that you have a police officer who stopped and actually was observing in that video the back of his house just look at the photo here just this is. little short of one of these screens here we go this is the vanishing evidence the head wound requiring stitches i don't see these or at least these are actual photos that are on reasonably was remain objective brothers yes yes this is the this is being taken to the police station directly from shooting make it broken nose no broken nose blood stains no you don't know where this is going to go to you know this is all as sumption so you
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may go ok let me ask you this if since and ruben says it was never proven that it was in a struggle and he was fighting for his life and they were struggling for a gun and zimmerman ended up shooting that kid is that justifiable or not well zimmerman chased him for a couple of blocks i would say you know that we know that of all of those who made the nine one one call the least although we've also. seen also being chased by trayvon martin and trayvon martin started an alter case when he was a policeman leaving them historically all the facts we really don't know if that's accurate and i don't think actually a lot of the news that's come out in the last twenty four hours is with the several unnamed witnesses speaking to national media that case does not help george zimmerman george zimmerman looks like the aggressor in this case i do agree what i'm saying and what you ask why is the conservative media or why aren't they why oh why isn't there some media that are kowtow into the same line that imus n.b.c. for instance is and then it's the fact is that there's no reason to rush to judgment if we don't know all the facts and you control you can bring on had been
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a black man and trayvon martin had been a seventeen year old white girl tell me this would. include all i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying that even though you believe i mean the law is the law all those years and all was written by the n.r.a. and wal-mart guns on does not allow you to chase somebody down and kill them we all know that so he may not have been acting under the law had he done that we just don't know that for what you just that we're going to miss here there's absolutely no reason why an appropriate investigation hasn't been taken place other than the fact that this law is on the books i mean do you guys think that this law hinders investigations into court of course. justifiable killings or into the kinds killing my business i think this law turned out to be for whatever reason a reasonable defense for george zimmerman to say hey look i aren't law and this is what i watch and remember just a second ago you were going about obamacare and saying hey that's why i voted in etc this is the case in florida they voted in this law and what this does is it gives more deference to someone who carries
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a gun their second amendment right then it would normally under most self-defense laws in most states it also gives more nodded and. it also gives more coverage to gun sellers who get sued when people use guns to kill look like like wal-mart but since this law went into effect and since jeb bush signed this long to effect the justifiable homicide rate in florida has tripled i think thomas there's something wrong with this i don't know if that's that's correct or not but i you tell me where that law is wrong and why an individual is not allowed to defend themselves and we and i'm not saying that was to have a bug in this case but what is it about we that it's about protecting walmart and making money but do we have any read a little bit about it because last last yes last question quick for it turns out one of the supreme court justices doesn't think he should be bothered with reading the entirety of obamacare before he rolls on it during yesterday's final day of oral arguments over obamacare scalia seemed amazed that someone would expect him or the rest of the court to read over the entire text of the health care law and
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referred to reading it as cruel and unusual punishment take a listen. to what happened to the a from it but you really want to go through these two thousand seven hundred pages. and you can't really expect. if these are not totally unrealistic and we're going to go through this dispute item by and decide each one so the question is what is school leah busy reading instead of obamacare is it the koch brothers manifesto or the supreme court for dummies or the hunger games. like brian i think it's really a copy of the constitution and he's understands that it's a choice between striking down the whole law or just a part of law and hopefully makes the right choice so i don't know he's a big fan of words so i assume he and one of the other justices may be a lead or playing mad libs them soak it it's going to be the health won't be
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reading nancy pelosi is playbook. and i'm i'm i'm i'm hoping that he's reading my book on judicial review and corporate personhood on equal protection so that's that's not bill's anyhow brian van sam thank you all for being with us that's it. for grims snapshot of america check out the front page of today's usa today. there you'll see two stories one above the whole lot of the fold if you all come to get me bring body bags and the other below the fold five hundred forty million mega millions market frenzy in the us both relate to the death of the american middle
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thoughts first there's the story of texas or sheriff deputies are trying to figure out a way to end a standoff that's been going on for twelve years john joe gray a self identified sovereign citizen who believes the government has no legitimacy and thus no authority has been holed up in a fortified compound in the woods daring the police to come and arrest him on felony assault charges that are more than a decade old back in two thousand wrote a letter to police reading if you all come to get me bring body bags police have resisted moving in the compound knowing that any attempt will certainly end in violence and death. for john joe gray and many other americans he the mill the militia movement is their last refuge when they've given up on the american dream and realize the united states is not the land of opportunity like it was before reaganomics took hold these americans mostly men watched their fathers and grandfathers come of age during the new deal era in america and then were able to
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raise families on a single paycheck working in a factory they learned what it meant to be a breadwinner to be a provider for their families and whether it's politically correct or not being the sole provider for the family was an important part of what being a man was all about for most of american history and still is for most men unfortunately today with millions and millions of manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas and tens of thousands of factories that once supported these middle class breadwinners closed down and these men feel that they have lost their manhood which is why a two thousand and four report by the national institute justice found an absolute link between high unemployment rates and increases in domestic violence the stress of being unemployed mixed with the feelings of loss of masculinity makes men look for other ways to be a tough guy man and strap on all sorts of phallic like guns and joining a militia movement for many of these men is the only way they can get back their sense of identity and empowerment the only way many of these men feel like they can
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get their manhood back is by themselves essentially going to war against an enemy that they call big government that's there's been a dramatic up take it up tick excuse me in militia groups operating in the united states since the economy tanked in two thousand and eight hating the male working class the hardest is the southern poverty law center points there are one hundred forty nine known militia groups operating the united states in two thousand and eight as are two different types of evolution and space good but his job losses mounted over the next few years that number sort of twelve hundred seventy four. the working class isn't just dying off today it's armenia. but americans who aren't into joining militias have pinned their hopes on a different way of getting by in this post reagan era which brings us to the second story on the front page of today's usa today. tonight's mega millions lotto jackpot
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which is now up to six hundred forty million dollars usa today describes a ticket buying frenzy to hit the record breaking lotto jackpot tonight look at these lines of people buying tickets that day in mountain view california and look at this line in california just over the nevada border mega million tickets are for sale in nevada some practically the whole state took a ride across the border into california and lined up for their chance to strike it rich since more and more americans can no longer support a family with a decent all my health care and a good education a vacation and a reasonable retirement and the only other way that they feel that they can get the american dream is to get lucky and get six numbers right even if your chances of hitting the auto are one in one hundred seven seventy six million tragically many americans who are just scraping by i think they have better odds of reaching the american dream by winning the lotto and working in the dead end service sector and tragically they're probably right so that's where we stand today with once proud
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proud working class americans being wiped out and joining radical militias to reclaim a little dignity or put themselves at the mercy of the weak weekly lotto drawing that only that these same people are dying on average seven minutes earlier than the rich even if you do seven years earlier even the disappearing middle class americans people who have what looks like a decent job are dying two years earlier than the rich and this working class death spiral will continue until we reject reagan reaganomics and supply side economics so let's roll back the reagan tax cuts drop out of these so-called free trade agreements and once again begin investing in the american social safety net then working class people will take up jobs and lay down guns and no law no longer need to pray to the lottery gods to make it in america. that's it for the big picture tonight don't forget democracy begins when you show up when you participate tell
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