i'm learning this. it's friday are you ready to rumble joining me for tonight's big picture rumble our brian darling senior fellow for government studies but heritage foundation a blogger for the daily mail sam sex progressive commentator and vince colony's senior editor with the daily caller thank you all for joining me tonight and see what we get here obamacare or actually is going to be decided or was decided today most likely they so can change their minds in the secret meeting that the supreme court had if the individual mandate is struck down according to the vice president

of blue cross blue shield yesterday the health insurance market will melt down she said if they strike down the mandate keep everything else somebody could buy an insurance policy in the ambulance on the way to the hospital and cancel it and they leave the hospital and you know which is a disaster on the other hand if they strike down the whole thing there's over one hundred million americans with preexisting condition conditions which means that the insurance company's going to. you know after us or a third of us republican attorney general buddy caldwell of the great state of louisiana was one of the twenty six plaintiffs in this case so in the government and here's what he had to say about why he thought obamacare should go down watch this. but you don't think the subsidies for low income people to buy health insurance are going to be helpful no no and the worst thing you can do is give it to an insurance company i want to make my insurance companies an absolute worst people to handle this kind of big how can i trust the government mournin insurance

. the government wants to put corporate policy where they will pay for everything and you don't have to go through an insurance company be a whole lot. so here you've got the attorney general louisiana calling for single payer universal health care should we take his advice no definitely no he's wrong and when you make all those assertions about what's going to happen if the court strikes it down strikes down the individual mandate it's because president obama put forth a plan that's unconstitutional if you want to beyond this and have a single payer system or have it be part of the tax policy of the united states you should have done that didn't i did your heritage foundation propose five years ago we didn't we been very clear that it's unconstitutional there was a period originated with the heritage over there not it did not originate with the heritage foundation the heritage foundation was part of a bunch of different think tanks that looked at this idea and at one point i thought it was a good idea but it was it's unconstitutional here is not authorized by the u.s. constitution and in eighty nine and ninety one the heritage foundation rope

a person or to unify drum and it was newt gingrich's main alternative to bill clinton when he was proposing health reform and romney put it is the cornerstone of his health care plan to it was when obama proposed it that suddenly it's it's crazy unconstitutional so there isn't some sort of flip flop that happened in proposal basically or yours president obama also flip flopped i mean he was against the mandate before is for sure and i think but he was right i mean conservatives don't have a good track record when it comes to the individual mandate republicans have supported this and they came under the notion that if we have if there's some sort of personal responsibility associated with the individual mandate the problem is as conservatives have i think rightly noted now is that. this is the government forcing you to purchase a product and it's an overreach and it may very well be ruled that way by the supreme court and you mentioned how is it that the court can throw this out this is all the damage that we do but the truth is the fault for that does lay at obama's feet if this gets struck down it's because it's an issue of constitutionality and

if the whole law gets thrown out it means that they so tightly packaged this thing that it's incapable of a function of the already says it will endorse are going to begin eighty six with corporate when reagan signed into law a bill that's that if somebody is sick and they show up at the hospital they have to be treated which means that everyone i'm assuming will have health insurance every one of us is panic thousand dollars a year to pay for those people who don't have health insurance that's a mandate yeah but it's good that there can more later and they give you a raise you know you're saying that the use of the hospitals have to take a patient when they come in right it's a different idea the only thing that people don't want to buy health insurance don't want to buy a product in the stream of commerce have to be forced to buy it that would mean that the government could say you need to buy shares of the whole idea is not so i assume this is you know show you also have to do with life and death why isn't then the solution what the attorney general louisiana proposed which is let's just make it a tax but like every other country france they you know i find it hard to understand

how you get to a point where you want the government controlling health care because if the government does it whether whether it's true whether it's their group whether it's we want whether it be through a single payer system like you're suggesting or this is going to health care this is health insurance for doctors that's right in your health care but the issue is they get the decide what they pay out this is a health insurance right have been would you rather have stevens in decided that would you rather the government become the only health insurer and then it has the up to the opportunity to change your lifestyle at a whim because voters don't agree with it this is the government that i can vote into office and i can vote out of office yeah absolutely you agree with everything some other person that votes instead it would goods versus the for profit corporations who can. whatever you want you have no recourse on what to do i mean those it's a little bit of a corporation that's not that's right but when all they have people are trusted working together on this exactly they have the antitrust exemption so you have no recourse and whatever the corporate you should do and as we see it health results in other parts of the world right this kind of single payer national system seems

to be working all over the we're not here this is not one side of the coin or the other this is not reform or nothing conservatives have to have an obligation especially if obamacare is not then it is my question is who republicans have an alternative i said you know that if they don't get it right or is they were just asked that question i was like oh but you know we're going to that's a great job of it but we're out of time on this a lot of let's move along spain is was locked down yesterday the day before i believe it was and yesterday and following you know this austerity budget got laid on them the same thing happened in greece the same thing happened in italy the same thing happened in the u.k. austerity crashes economies then comes paul ryan i've got us thirty budget for you why do republicans want not only that he wants to give a three trillion dollars tax cut to billionaires while he's cutting everything from the f.d.a. and the food inspection service and the e.p.a. and then food stamps i don't get it is this really the vision of america that you

publicans want to run under and actually the wrong you're wrong i mean you're saying that us terry is crashing these economies yes it's too much government these government spent too much did these big welfare states look at the sweden has a much larger welfare state they're going to look at their debt to g.d.p. ratio greece is not doing is they're not enforcing it early tax code greece's biggest problem other than the fact that goldman sachs put them in this situation the first place fight by putting together an illegal scheme you know about this. which is what got greece in trouble would be odd that they don't tax the billionaires as it is that there's too much government in greece and the people is not so much better it's they have a huge welfare state all the way has to be under one swede. has a bigger one swing in their hands here one generally has to happen at their home and it's going to the united states we're going down the same road i don't think any one of the panel is a really extreme libertarian maybe you are brian but look there are certain things that the government needs to provide for the people and paul ryan's budget takes non-defense discretionary spending basically everything that's not spent on the

military and medicare and stuff like a lot of the military that's military spending so you know he didn't really think on just what is the the cuts that was i would have read upon by that i guess i wondered if there are going to pick them thanks to the committee or something it was because you were giving up and whatever anyways so he takes on your discretionary spending cuts into its lowest level in fifty years when the population was half of what it is today and that's just the responsible. government cannot function or take care of its citizens with spending up out little while meanwhile he is closing tax loopholes i mean that's he's goal is to now one of the things i do think oil subsidies. the idea is that if you can lower the tax rate overall than you can incentivize business to come back to the united states the other is if you can close tax loopholes that actually is revenue generating you won't hear democrats or liberals and this is are no states because of taxes business is leaving the united states because in china they can get people to work united states has that thirty dollars i eat corporate tax rate in mexico they can get people to work for one hundred dollars a week the u.s.

has the highest corporate tax rate where exxon mobil pay thirteen percent on forty one billion dollars we have that we have among the lowest tax collections in the developed world corporate tax collections we have during the eisenhower administration corporations pay thirty five percent the cost of government now it's down to eleven percent because you want your groceries people are paying a higher percentage according to o.e.c.d. in the united states than they are in most other countries we have the most progressive of a good job because you know all the countries of the world so yes talking about somalia in mozambique and its people the top the highest percentage trying the always new countries try when you compare it to just the developed countries yet you want to compare us to that to the third world are rich people. had marcus read the end we got rich people given to preparing the whole europe compares to the third world when you want to talk about wealth inequality or how many people we execute here but i don't consider europe to be the third world yeah they're on their way with all their overspending but they're not quite there yet well let's get it will subsidies that speaking of loopholes

a majority of senators voted fifty one voted to cut off tens of billions of dollars in subsidies that you all companies yesterday. it would cut it a republican fifty one percent this is a majority used to be that that would mean it would become law but now under the new rules brought to us by republicans ever since the obama presidency you have to have sixty votes because the republicans had this unified filibuster they're going to defend the oil companies bait meanwhile in the house they're cutting programs for poor people for middle class people cut pell grants cut college loans cut everything again i you know oh and by the way these four forty seven senators who are helping you know working to support big oil they collected twenty three million dollars in campaign contributions from big oil and natural gas which is four times the amount that the fifty one senators in aggregate who voted against people collected isn't this the best government money can buy and that's a really interesting stat because what it comes down to wall street reform to the volcker rule the senators who oppose the vocal rule are also collecting four times

as much money from wall street as the senators who don't oppose it so it really is the best ever money doesn't surprise me that business is support people that are free market better in the end better on the hill that doesn't surprise me that's just what you guys the of what i'm what surprised me is that every one of the one of the elements of this that we're not talking about is that that these oil subsidies that we're talking about the boat wasn't strictly all subsidies it was how the money would be spent should they do this and now you have twenty two billion or so dollars that they would collect over ten years from this after that money would go to a green or green resource green renewable energy stuff and the president doesn't mean that we wouldn't be addicted it was said and the president came out and said we've had a long track record of this being successful which is not true by any stretch of the imagination particularly during the obama administration and there's a lot of very they have laid want to build a loan facility and that is rooted in dollar investments they are going to run though not as fisker automotive i mean it's not a glowing twenty oversee energy department had said this is can be is produced by wind but let's let me tell you on this is not this is not you know you want to talk

about corruption what about all the money the obama administration the obama campaign is collecting. from wall street wall street was one of the conservatives seventy three percent of all of the money from wall street has gone to the romney campaign ninety one percent of all the money from wall street in this election cycle has gone to republican most of the money now usually president obama which is running the first time on of his t.v. bungler year of the year already though they still wait until they run out of like one of his chief collectors is probably going to get a lot this is going to get bankrupted out of i don't know there's no doubt you know i'm not arguing that this is what you're saying is what you're defending a system that's corrupted by money i don't get it will so you're saying that president obama is not going to be granted you know your way the only side to do it he's going to spend in this campaign absolutely stipulate both so let's get money out of politics you know because then you would have the government running politics and if you don't govern is the sponsor guy you're going to be in the people if you could really do what i'm going to do to people be the good people go

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left in the alone you know get the real headlines with none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and what actually matters. like young people don't watch t.v. if they want news they go online and we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back even. though.

the guys big picture rubble drawing for tonight's rubble are brian arlott senior fellow for government studies at the heritage foundation of water with the daily mail sam sacks progressive writer and strategist and colonies senior online editor of color let's get back to george zimmerman another week another week of freedom for good old george and a.b.c. released video footage earlier this week and i think it's showing some poise. that showing that zimmerman who was at the sanford police station at the night of the shooting here is it's on the screen it doesn't seem to be all that injured it's like you know vanishing evidence there's no grass stains there's no blood there's no pretty much nothing meanwhile thought so-called news continues to paint martin as the aggressor in the attack continue to repeat all these oh he was viciously

attacking our conservatives or why is the conservative media defending zimmerman why is the liberal media jumping to conclusions how do we know that his nose was broken how do we know that because you know this isn't a video we know that his head wasn't bashed against the ground see in the video you can't see any of that in the video you can hear anybody whose nose is broken or not i i don't think i've seen a couple of broken noses and they were always i want to buy a lot of you know what i watch that video you can't tell it was yours you would see the blood on someone sure but what but what we do know is that somebody shot and killed somebody else and there's virtually no evidence other than what he says other than what zimmerman says that he was acting in self-defense in any other state that doesn't have the sort of stand your ground laws there would have been at least manslaughter charges or something brought against him but he's being protected by this law which is you know fox is in the same boat as the american legislative exchange council that we're going to happen here is you have a lot of really terrible players involved i think the police department probably

stocks i think the both both and the individuals in this if you're going to if you don't look as anybody sort of i've spent time doing crime reporting you could always doubt everybody just about everybody involved with the case because there are men still you know they have the police department supposedly still conducting an investigation the idea that this could be brought before the public for the public to decide this based on this video now the daily caller we actually pointed out that there is some sort of visible laceration or something awesome zeigler eater and stuff photo that's right would we and we should and we showed what appears to be some sort of vertical feature on the back of that and it's complemented by the fact that you have a police officer who stopped and actually was observing in that video the back of his i just look at the photo here this is. it'll show up over the screen syria this is the vanishing evidence they had one requiring stitches i don't see these or at least these are actual photos that are unreasonable he was wearing my jacket broke loose yes all good yes this is the this is being taken to the police station directly from shooting make it broken nose no broken nose blood stains no you have

zero gravity is going to hit him no this is all as sumption so you may be ok let me ask you this if this man who visited every night it was in a struggle and he was fighting for his life and they were struggling for a gun and zimmerman ended up shooting that kid is that justifiable or not well zimmerman chased him for a couple of blocks i would say you know that we know that all of the all of them in the nine one one call the police all know when you've also heard the police. being chased by trayvon martin and trayvon martin started an alter case with him was already awful even leading them his story don't know the facts we really don't know if that's accurate and i don't think actually a lot of the news that's come out in the last twenty four hours is with the several unnamed witnesses speaking to national media that case does not help george zimmerman george zimmerman looks like the aggressor in this case i do agree what i'm saying and what you ask why is the conservative media or why aren't you why why isn't there some media that are kowtow into the same line that imus n.b.c. for instance is and it's the fact is that there's no reason to rush to judgment if

we don't know all the facts and you can show you can bring it on had been a black man and trayvon martin had been of seventeen year old white girl tell me this wouldn't. all i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying that even though you believe apartment i mean the law is the law and this is all it was written by the n.r.a. and wal-mart we're not going to solder is not allow you to chase somebody down and kill them we all know that but so he may not have been acting under the law had he done that we just don't know that but you just hold it in this here there's absolutely no reason why an appropriate investigation hasn't been taken place other than the fact that this law is on the books i mean do you guys think that this law hinders investigations into port of call. justifiable killings or into the pen's killing i think this law turned out to be for whatever reason a reasonable defense for george zimmerman to say hey look i am the law and this is what i watch and remember just a second ago you were going about obamacare and saying hey that's why i voted in etc this is the case in florida they voted in this law and what this does is it gives more deference to someone who carries

a gun their second amendment right and it would normally under most self-defense laws in most states it also gives more nodded and. it also gives more coverage to gun sellers who get sued when people use guns to kill it like like wal-mart but since this law went into effect and since jeb bush signed this law into effect the justifiable homicide rate in florida has tripled i mean tell me something wrong i don't know if that's correct or not but i you tell me where that law is wrong why an individual is not allowed to defend themselves and we and i'm not saying that i thought about it in this case but it isn't ok we that it's about protecting walmart and making money but if you get an early out there about it in the last days it was yes last question quickly turns out one of the supreme court justices doesn't think he should be bothered with reading the entirety of obamacare before he rules on it during yesterday's final day of oral arguments over obamacare scalia seemed amazed that someone would expect or the rest of the court to read over the entire text of

the health care law and referred to reading it as cruel and unusual punishment take a listen. to what happened to the eighth amendment you really want to stick a loop through these two thousand seven hundred pages. and and you really expect. if this were not totally unrealistic they were going to go through this dispute i do by and decide each one so the question is what is scalia busy reading instead of obamacare is it the koch brothers manifesto or the supreme court for dummies or the hunger games. i think. i think he's reading a copy of the constitution and he's understands that it's a choice between striking down the whole law or just a part of law and hopefully makes the right choice so i don't know he's a big kind of words so i assume he one of the other justices maybe a leader or playing god lives it's stuck if it's going to be the health won't be

reading the playbook. and i'm i'm i'm hoping that he's reading my book on judicial review and corporate personhood and equal protection so that's that's my bills let me out brian van sam thank you all for being with us. for a grim snapshot of america check out the front page of today's usa today. there you'll see two stories one above the whole lot of the above the fold if you all come to get a green body bags and the other below the fold five hundred forty million mega mega millions market frenzy in the us both relate to the death of the american middle

class first there's the story of texas where sheriff's deputies are trying to figure out a way to end a standoff that's been going on for twelve years john joe gray a self identified sovereign citizen or believes the government has no legitimacy and thus no authority has been holed up in a fortified compound in the woods daring the police to come and arrest him on felony assault charges that are more than a decade old back in two thousand grey wrote a letter to police reading if you all come to get me bring body bags police have resisted moving in the compound knowing that any attempt will certainly end in violence and death. for john joe gray and many other americans the the mill the militia movement is their last refuge when they've given up on the american dream and realize the united states is not the land of opportunity like it was before reaganomics took all these americans mostly men watched their fathers and grandfathers come of age during the new deal era in america and then were able to

raise families on a single paycheck working in a factory they learned what it meant to be a breadwinner to be a provider for their families and whether it's politically correct or not being the sole provider for the family was an important part of what being a man was all about for most of american history and still is for most unfortunately today with millions and millions of manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas and tens of thousands of factories that once supported these middle class breadwinners close down these men feel that they have lost their manhood which is why a two thousand and four report by the national institute of justice found an absolute link between high unemployment rates and increases in domestic violence the stress of being unemployed mixed with the feelings of loss of masculinity makes men look for other ways to be a tough guy man and strap on all sorts of phallic like guns and joining a militia movement for many of these men is the only way they can get back their sense of identity and empowerment the only way many of these men feel like they can

get their manhood back is by themselves essentially going to war against an enemy that they call big government those there's been a dramatic up tape uptick excuse me in militia groups operating in the united states since the economy tanks in two thousand and eight hitting the male working class the hardest as the southern poverty law center points out there are one hundred forty nine known militia groups operating the united states in two thousand and eight. these are two different types of illusion of space good but his jaw glosses moment over the next few years that number sort of twelve hundred seventy for the working class isn't just dying off today it's armenia. but americans who aren't into joining militias have pinned their hopes on a different way of getting by in this post reagan era which brings us to the second story on the front page of today's usa today. tonight's mega millions lottery

jackpot which is now up to six hundred forty million dollars usa today describes a ticket buying frenzy to hit the record breaking lotto jackpot tonight going to these lines of people buying tickets today in mountain view california and look at this line in california just over the nevada border mega million tickets are for sale in nevada surprisingly the whole state took a ride across the border in the california and lined up for their chance to strike it rich since more and more americans can no longer support a family with a decent home health care and a good education of vacation and a reasonable retirement and the only other way that they feel that they can get the american dream is to get lucky and get six numbers right even if your chances of hitting the father are one in one hundred seventy seventy six million tragically many americans who are just scraping by think they have better odds of reaching the american dream by winning the lotto and working in the dead in service sector and tragically they're probably right so that's where we stand today with once proud

proud working class americans being wiped out and joining a radical militias to reclaim a little dignity or put themselves at the mercy of the weak weekly lotto drawing that only that these same people are dying on average seven minutes earlier than the rich even the seven years earlier even the disappearing middle class americans people who have what looks like a decent job are dying two years earlier than the rich and this working class death spiral will continue until we reject reagan. reaganomics and supply side economics so let's roll back the reagan tax cuts drop out of these so-called free trade agreements and once again begin investing in the american social safety net and working class people will take up jobs and lay down guns and no no longer need to pray to the lottery gods to make it in america that's it for the big picture tonight don't forget the marker see begins when you show when you participate tell

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