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the laser gun and no it was a booster for a one point four billion dollars military bridge to nowhere and on top of all on top of it all the senators have personal reasons for wanting to see the project go through between two thousand and seven two thousand and twelve and only received two hundred fifteen thousand dollars one thousand nine hundred in campaign donations from aerospace and defense industries while kaufman only received fifty eight thousand from the industry in the same time frame but the headquarters of knob six the firm behind the blue devils bible and they are located in conference home state of mississippi so how projects like this can be justified by senators in a time of super committee on debt reduction and cyclist gratian the damn good question. let's not forget that we are in the fourth party. i think. either one well.
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we haven't got the. safe ready freedom. loving the loner so we'll get the real headlines with none of them are the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back to t.v. . sometimes you see a story at the scene so. you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and here's some other part of it and realize that everything is. going to charge.
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well the g.o.p. primary seems to be winding down and mitt romney appears to be the candidate that is going to face off with obama in november so of course that both sides are now posturing on every topic imaginable to try to win over voters one of the most prized voting blocks is the rapidly growing latino vote and not surprisingly this
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week it's all eyes on immigration the last week the obama administration announced that they would pursue a policy change would make it easier for undocumented immigrants who are relatives of american citizens and try to get their legal status to remain in the states and with their families while they go through that process right on the heels of that yesterday ice analysis of data arrested more than three thousand one hundred undocumented immigrants and it's six day operation that they called cross check and this operation was the largest immigration crackdown in history though some are saying it is a way for the obama administration which is a report of a staggering one million people in the last three years to maintain an appearance of being tough on immigration while the same time pandering to latino voters and other avenues the obama administration is in the old me ones who seem to be playing both sides of the field appears that mitt romney is seizing the opportunity to remind latino voters obama's campaign promises to them. let the immigrant community
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not forget that while he uses this as a political as a political weapon he does not take responsibility for fixing the problems we have . yes the latino community should not forget that obama promised to tackle immigration reform in his first year in office but it also shouldn't forget romney's past statements on immigration like when he was asked during a debate if he supported the arizona approach to tackling the problem. so going back to the question that was asked the right course for america is to drop these lawsuits against arizona and other states that are trying to do the job rather than the isn't doing. right. i will drop those lawsuits lawsuits sunday one. or when in everything interview he touted his record on immigration as a qualifier to his conservative friends. i think the biggest misconception would be that i'm a guy that comes from massachusetts and therefore i can be conservative but you
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know if you look at my record of massachusetts and see that i balanced the budget lowered taxes nineteen times in forced illegal immigration laws got english immersion in our schools. yeah that's right because this is the america we speak english right now have the g.o.p. just loves that talking point but romney didn't just reminding latino voters of obama's broken promises he also had this to say that this will be a priority of mine if i become president to make sure we finally reform our immigration laws step by step secure the border improve our legal immigration system so we can keep people here and welcome people here who will make america a stronger nation. really the romney claims that he wants to keep people here that for interesting especially considering that he thinks pretty opposed to that stance just back in january my point is we're not going to go round and round people up in buses and ship them home instead we'll let people make their own decisions based upon their employment. opportunities here or lack thereof. yeah the romney might
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not want to round people up the way the obama administration did this week but make no mistake he does not want documents of immigrants that are in the country now to stay here and as for the kids of undocumented immigrants well romney has quite a hard stance when it comes to the dream act you know the bill that senate republicans shot down in december and it didn't want those kids to be educated either. my point is we're not going to go round and round people up in buses and ship them home instead we'll let people make their own decisions based upon their employment opportunities here or lack thereof. through g.o.p. form even though he's argued time and time again that we need to make laws to get undocumented immigrants to sell to ports there is one thing i can say that the military.
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you know. so many things that undocumented immigrants who have lived in this country their entire lives they're not good enough for an education but they are good enough to die for our country and then maybe they can be said is that if they make it back the numerous wars that we're currently fighting so it appears the operation trick voter is in full swing by both parties but making his regular double speak of the obama administration pandering one moment and deporting the next election a solid seven months away you can bet that this is far from the last we've heard from both mitt and obama when it comes to immigration but at this point it looks as if the latino population is going to have to put their stock in what they see the lesser of two evils. now if you've ever heard of news for a loaf or prison loaf slop loaf there's many names but it's something that prisoners across the u.s. know all too well the forced to eat it and one particular case in the walky an inmate named terrence prude became violently ill after eating it for two dates experience stomach pain vomiting a loss of weight of fourteen pounds and other health problems and last week
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a federal appeals court ruled that what proved reserves could violate the eighth amendment would be considered cruel and unusual punishment and it's just another sign of deteriorating and inhumane and prison conditions and treatment here in the u.s. so what else do we know about the mood of the prison population here to discuss those needs dr jeffrey ian ross criminologist and professor at the university of baltimore there thanks so much for joining us tonight tell me more about neutral oh i've seen the pictures and it definitely doesn't look like something very appetizing sure not every prisoner gets through of typically somebody who's been sold through conformant could be somebody in a supermax prison. for punitive and also a nutritional purpose. because the prison is required to feed a prisoner every day there's no guarantee that it is tasty there's no guarantees about the texture the taste the smell typically of the neutral local prison loaf as
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it's called a number of facilities is the food that is served that day it's ground up and then baked in los and serve to the prisoners that day it's supposed to have the same nutritional value as the food that every prisoner eat during the day and it's supposed to not lose any of its nutritional value having been ground punishment you know i mean you do you say but if i have punitive as well as nutritional sure how many people enjoy eating their. meals in a kind of fashion every day they have no choice with respect to what goes into the meal most prisoners will get their breakfast will get their lunch will get their dinner they also have the ability to go to the commissary and get some food stuffs basic kind of junk food that's where things are kind of round out the it's not nutrition but the taste in the quality of the food that they eat here they have absolutely no say over what they're going to eat and that among other reasons is
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what's motivating this this lawsuit and it's quite unusual too that this lawsuit is going forward and it's getting some traction because the prison loaf neutralises been around for at least every day no question about it so that's the thing right is that we feel this is not the first lawsuit right over national often if one is actually going forward i mean i have other people have the same reaction as you know as parents pre-date here with a violent elevator following you know it's one thing to say that food doesn't have to taste good for prisoners i don't think that anyone is going to expect the big meal but it's another thing if it's actually unsafe and make prisoners have complained about food since day one it doesn't have to be neutral over prison a lot of the prison food. it is sold purchased by jails and prisons in the united states is of substandard quality the fruits are bruised sometimes it's spoiled the expertise expiration dates of past that sort of thing and the people who are
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cooking the food do the best they can with what they're given now prison food is also depends upon what you've eaten before if you're homeless you've been on the street for a long time prison food might be great if you were in the army if you're used to institutional food prison food is very similar now there's a whole continuum there's places where the food is excellent there's places where the food is very very poor and the food varies based on the day it can also be based very based on the part of the country in which an inmate is incarcerated so there's a lot of variability that's on that then you would say the jets the overall broad sweeping statement prison food is unconstitutional and is cruel and unusual punishment but just looking at this case right the fact that the court has actually decided that you should get representation and it should go through you know what that fact and i mean for the let's say that if you don't think before the minneapolis system clearly it's going to mean that they're going to pay more
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attention to the kinds of food that they're going to serve the inmates but whether or not the inmate prevails it's hard to say so that's something to something to keep in mind when we're talking about food in the prison lowson in the neutral of that that sort of thing but again a lot of this is situational depends upon the prison system whether we're talking about the feds were talking about the different states some states are better some some are not and also depends on you know the income level of an inmate two if they can suck moment there their diet with commissary food so it's not an open and shut black and white kind of case prisoners of always complain about the food they'll continue to do it and this is just one more added dimension to the. all the of living and quality of life you know i mean is there something particularly compelling about this case or do we suddenly see a seven kind of a ship united states because we also saw the supreme court ruling just recently.
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the system in california is inhumane because the prisons are so very crowded and again we also saw the supreme court really yesterday that anybody can get stuff starts no matter what your offense is when you walk in so i mean i don't know can we can come up with any patterns i don't think you can generalize from this just one case i mean the laws dynamic and these prison cases are dynamic too it's more difficult for prisoners to launch legal challenges now with the prison little edition reform act it's more costly for them to do it the judges are less likely to hear these kinds of cases they see them as frivolous kinds of suits and they're more quickly to dismiss the fact that this is a big our prison population gets the more frivolous they save these types of losses you know i mean that's kind of a problem no question and another thing too is prisons are cutting back in their expenditures and they're going to cut back on many things we're going to cut back on the salaries that we're going to get correctional officers through to combat cut back on food living conditions and so on and i see this is part of
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a trend and probably will be increasing claims of lawsuits whether or not they prevail in the courts it's hard to say i got a feeling that this is not going to prevail because of the constitution does not specify you know what the food quality needs to be yes they must provide a standard of care that must provide a quality of living but it doesn't rise to a certain threshold and that's i got a feeling that as it progresses through the and make it there i don't think we will keep an eye on it jeffrey thanks so much for joining us tonight my pleasure. i assigned our last break of the evening but with the arizona law to criminalize annoying people on the internet. and i don't have the hour obama logged the charge of social darwinism. i think facebook helps stop the spread of. a great. story. and the. other part of it.
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they're completely disconnected from the viewers and from what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it and we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. . is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.
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our guys it's time for tides tool time award and tonight we're giving you the state has been honored way too many times even passed we told you about arizona's papers please immigration law the governor's decree that allowed residents to carry concealed weapons without a permit a bill that would allow businesses with moral objections to refuse to pay for birth control if it was for contraceptive purposes but today got a whole areas to call them out and it has to do with house bill twenty five forty nine to the surface it's designed to combat bullying and stocking making it a crime to use an electronic device to talk to someone in a way that would care if i intimidate threaten harass annoy or offend and yes annoying someone on the internet would actually be a crime now to give you a bit of background here this house bill was designed on a framework of old state legislation that's designed to stop harassing phone calls and so the bill's sponsor house minority leader chad campbell even admits that this is a way to modernize old language this was not an attack on any first amendment rights
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you see some of the bullying problems we've had in high schools and grade schools across the country facebook posts you know attacking people like twitter messages things like that again we're trying to update the stocking code to reflect the modern day. no big deal the legislators are just trying to make sure that nobody out there gets harassed with just a simple little update well they would make it illegal to quote otherwise disturbed by repeated anonymous electronic or digital communications the piece quiet a right of privacy of any person at a place where the communications were received so basically this means that all the people on the internet leave comments after comments on blogs or are you tube page well that would be against the law it just shows how truly confused lawmakers are out there saying that commenting repeatedly on the repeatedly on the internet is the same thing as calling somebody over and over and over and over again on the phone and it's pretty clear to anybody who has ever used the internet that it's not
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and thankfully the rest of the world realizes how wrong it would be to criminalize free speech after all that is exactly what this bill is really aiming to do they're trying to say that you can't use your phone your computer or any of your digital devices to say what you think about someone or something the language is just so insanely broad the anything you say on the internet could be considered a crime so those annoying lewd comments on you tube or facebook those would be a crime in arizona now thankfully groups across the country are starting to speak out against this law like the media coalition who says that it's unconstitutional and a letter calling on governor jan brewer to veto h.b. twenty five forty nine coalition rights the government may criminalize speech that rises to the level of harassment and many states have laws that do so but the legislation takes a law meant to address irritating phone calls and applies it to communication on websites blogs list serves and other internet communication and by the way the reason we showed you that is because the our i am the m.p.a. are backers of the media coalition that's right the groups that have supported
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pretty radical copyright protection measures out there things like mandatory censor where borders searches of all personal media devices even though they think the arizona is taking it too far and it goes through code and crazies are against it think that saying something. and here's the i thing on the cake of the daily callers thomas grier points out an article arizona has its own constitution that protects free speech maybe even better than the us constitution it says every person may freely speak write and publish on all subjects not only are they violating the first amendment but they're also violating their own state's constitution but they police state lawmakers have started noticing at the outcry they've actually decided not to send this bill to governor brewer for signature just yet now now they want to revise the language but still h.b. twenty five forty nine in its current form passed both houses of arizona's legislator and that alone earns a state tonight's bull's-eye reward. i
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got time for happy hour and joining me this evening are to learn let lauren lyster how much of the counseling out here on r.g.p. sorry and nick gillespie editor in chief of reason t.v. and reason dot com thanks for joining me guys thank you so you know quite a war of words going on there so the president is back on the campaign trail he took a hit at the g.o.p. budget that's out there and took a look take a listen to what it is that he said. this congressional republican budget is something different altogether it is a trojan horse disguised as deficit reduction plans is really an attempt to
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impose a radical vision on our country it is thinly veiled social dharm darwinism. then we bailed social darwinism those are pretty strong words we've heard a lot of socialism coming from opposite sides and now we have social darwinism what do you think i think it's a joke i mean this is sloganeering and you're talking about. obama wants more spending about three point eight trillion dollars a year now in ten years if he got his way we'd be spending about five point eight trillion dollars paul ryan would be spending and the republicans would be spending four point nine trillion dollars so any way you cut it this is not about cutting spending and you know there are all the budget sockeye ok well writing i think the reality is i'm sure you know the nuts and bolts of exactly what's in the ryan budget a lot better than i do but whatever obama is saying about it who cares this is not what's going to get passed him but it is that what's going to get passed it's going to be passed is probably going to be a disaster they cut a dollar or something at the end of the day and so karen what do you think of this
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is where we've gotten to right though is that like there you there can't be any other conversation other than if you want to talk about you know some kind of a health care coverage that has to be it has to mean are socialists and that at the same time if you look at certain republican policies which do you cut a lot from social programs. then you end up being a social welfare with it but they don't cut it all and that's like the issue that you are in your i don't have the there were no no no but they cut over expected increases because everybody wants to spend more there are plenty of proposals out there that say ok you know what we're going to keep spending level and you have to realize that in the two thousand we increase spending by about sixty percent so if you're talking about keeping spending level who's to spend on no no no and that's not the point is what the reaction is that the breakdown in the budget process is that the senate democrats the democratically controlled senate hasn't passed the budget several years and they won't they refused to what is good about that is that over the past couple years because it's just been continuing resolutions we've been
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spending about the same as we used to which i am sure it was a good thing but we're not really answering our social darwinism question was. no darwinism would be ok i mean we haven't. but it's all right if you know when you want to do the right you need to work harder and order to achieve more opportunity for themselves the problem we are going to public and budget though is that they're constantly saying oh we gotta cut spending except on defense obama is saying all right we got it here spend it all about how do you like it when they talk about the spending and how much our country's going trouble conveniently he leaves out defense of his charge so are you going to hear medicaid social security where that was available. increases defense spending even more republicans over a ten year period so it's the unreality of budget discussions is. let's move on to something more fun right. how about having sex with your. their ruling makes it unconstitutional to keep an eighteen year old from having
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consensual sex with whomever they want it may not be illegal anymore but teachers can still be punished by the department of education if someone files a complaint a teacher to lose their license if they have sex with a consenting eighteen year old student. so i guess those who are used to be that you are twenty one or had to be twenty one or to have sex now if you're eighteen or older you're a consenting adult who cares that means we're talking about writers. out . of the time and small time so you're. right to make jokes about the fast interior trim enough to really interesting then you know that i'm basically just mean bigger teachers and we haven't. i don't agree with that because my age should never be against the law for a consenting adult to have sex with their teacher but come on it's still going to be the biggest scandal ever and they're going to lose their job but they're having
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sex with their students that's still a conflict of interest or something i'm sure that whoever is running a saw on television today in again whatever but it isn't even the law that's absurd i mean i do think you know if you believe adults can kids you know shouldn't be shouldn't be illegal but you're right that i mean our school by school policy i would think you would you don't send your kids to go have sex with their teachers especially you know now i don't hire teachers. that i was i went to catholic schools i was taught by so this was especially the case i think it holds even if it's all right. ok first of all we see a lot of. the things that are really you know the kids are former journalists or the kids of former politicians here's one example from the. you often talk of. the century was to be the next great american century. generation deliver that
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great american century with just terrible unemployment numbers. yes that a little russert you actually got to interview former president bill clinton the father of a failed journalist and so yes yes chelsea how does short lived contract there but anyway phil griffin from imus on the scene when you talk to the tampa bay times that i'm sorry i don't care about journalists i want fair minded smart people who understand the world and interpret it there are journalists great this notion that you somehow have to have done something to earn so-called journalist credentials stop i think there's points to be made either way right as a lot of opinion shows out there and stuff like that. i don't think that phil griffin should be criticized for making a statement there is a reality of the direction that cable television news has gone in he's a businessman he is the president of amazon b.c. he has to have a profitable successful business model i mean come on people have to get realistic about what is working i do think that the credentialism that has crept into
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journalism professional journalism is is a bad thing generally but by the same token there are good journalists and bad journalists i'm not sure that luke russert or chelsea clinton really fit that bill and every sort of you know you are not like you're on your show yeah i got to wrap it up so we got to go thanks for joining me tonight outfit good night. download the official. chobani phone or i pod touch from the i choose our.
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