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well it has sites like a p.d.f. and google might have been able to temporarily block cyber security legislation in congress but they're not out of the woods yet or get so but there is a new acronym and sound system and this one is the mother of all digital rights bills we'll tell you how the days of browsing online really could be coming to an app start your legs. in the water here ok been for a full week with. law enforcement officials are getting a little thristy these days bad things to a new supreme court ruling that allows some pretty invasive strip searches we'll show you the naked truth behind this controversial rule.
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heard. talk about powerful politics ron paul will likely not clinch the republican nomination but he's certainly changed the political discourse and young voters are rallying around his cause or find out what's next for the ron paul revolution. it's tuesday april third seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching artsy. well it's the latest attempt at regulating the internet we saw the public outcry over sopa of a now way socal like the bill is being debated in congress was supposed to stop online piracy but critics say the only thing it was stopping was online freedoms getting too much power to companies allow public log of sites that they think
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violates copyright laws and then there was so pissed counterpart in the senate known as pepa or the protect the act requires more court intervention to go on after it allows more code or intervention when it website is accuse now there is a bill called sis the cyber intelligence sharing and protection act but this bill does is allows companies to collect information about you and give it to the government or the government simply needs to request it in the name of cyber security but critics say the bill is so broad it can lead to company is now the government monitoring and censoring what people say so is the era of internet freedom coming to an end and our last hour i spoke to senior national security fellow at the center for democracy and technology council berman we discussed this bill means for your online freedoms that of people should be alarmed take a listen well just to put it a little bit in context there are a number of cybersecurity bills that are on the hill right now and we understand
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that probably the first of those to move are going to be in the house likely in the third week of april with the senate moving closely after that and we are very concerned about certain components of the information sharing schemes that are parts of each of these bells and representative rogers bell this is a bell is really the most alarming in terms of how vast they could potentially be in terms of the types of information that the government would be allowed to receive under the name of cybersecurity talk a little bit more about exactly what is in the bill that people should be concerned about sure so essentially what the bill. does is it creates a structure whereby private companies are encouraged to monitor for cyber threat information that goes across their networks and then share that information with the government doesn't specify to whom in the government that information should be shared but the structure of the bill all likelihood would be that it would be
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shared primarily by the national security agency or another component of the department of defense so we have a number of concerns with something like this bill that creates sort of a vast hole in the privacy law to allow government to receive those kinds of information that we saw a lot of outrage over so how does this bill compare well i think one of the lessons that we learned in the reaction just. is that when congress tries to legislate on the things that are going to affect internet users experience the internet users are going to pay attention and bills you know like congressman rogers bill and information sharing and bells on congress definitely could affect in a very serious way the internet experience and so you know we know people are starting to notice do you think people are noticing as much i remember there was that whole blackout with sopa and pipa where a lot of online sites shut down basically in protest today's do you think there is as much. public awareness about this bill not yet but i think that is things new
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progressively on the hill that we may see something that's like that i think the other components of cybersecurity have gotten a lot of attention this far but the information sharing schemes are extremely important to pay attention to now up until now the internet has been pretty much unregulated arguably but some people just disagree with this republican presidential candidate rick santorum is one of them let's take a listen to what what he said about this. the internet is not a free free zone where anybody can do anything they want to do and trample the rights of other people but the idea that you know anything goes on the internet where did that come from we're in america. now that's interesting coming from a republican who usually advocates less government but in this case when it comes to freedom of speech on line he's advocating more of it but what do you make of his argument well look i don't know what rick santorum thinks of the cyber security
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legislation but i do think that you know in terms of his promise that the internet is unregulated that's not true just because you commit a crime on the internet doesn't immunize you from liability just because it's on the internet and law enforcement has many tools to go after crimes that are committed anywhere including the internet now what is the likelihood that you think that this is going to pass well i'm not sure i think you know no one knows right now there's a lot of different movements on the hill but we take this. extremely seriously and particularly congressman rogers as we take it very seriously is now supporters of this bill will point to things that do need to get regulated for example copyright infringement or if there is a possible link to terrorist activity being posted online or where the government would need to get a hold of this information so what do you make of that argument where these regulations need to be put in place in order to protect citizens well i mean i
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think when you look at the purpose of cyber security legislation you know we think that it could have huge benefits for people and we're not against the purpose of an information sharing machine so long as it's narrowly tailored but when you talk about using information that the government receives that's purportedly for the purpose of protecting cybersecurity and you're using it to you know for law enforcement purposes or for national security purposes they don't have anything to do with security well law enforcement has tools are ready to go after those crimes and we don't we very much fear of. the information. turing machine that's related to cyber security could very much become a backdoor wiretap or surveillance program by another name so you're saying the danger that when it comes to this bill is that there's not really one does it when does it end will it go too far or there's not really any control but because the bill the language in the bill is so broad that's exactly right we have a lot of concerns with the breadth of the bill if it was very narrowly tailored to information you know that was very much related to cyber threat information you
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know there would be comfort level with that but the way that it is written it applies to so much of your online communication and to have that risk straight to the national security agency we think raises real civil liberties problems that we saw something like sopa and pipa now we have this bill so we see this effort to regulate and control the internet so i mean could this be the beginning of the ed for internet freedom for if you will you know as we know it well i don't know about that i think you know as i said before cyber security when done right and when done narrowly could benefit everyone but it needs to be done in an incremental way with a narrow approach and the heavy hand that you know current lawmakers are taking with these bills you know it really is it brings a real genuine concern and for people that are concerned about this and don't want to see the legislation go as far as it could go what can they do well i would certainly pay attention to you know the web center for democracy and technology and the types of activism that groups like the tea and others are doing around these
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issues axel and cadel nice to have you and i think you know that was a little bourbon senior security fellow at the center for democracy and technology . a law enforcement officials are getting a little first steve these days that's because the supreme court ruled five to four this week that he suspects fourth amendment privacy rights are outweighed by jailhouse security concerns so now police officers have the right to strip search anyone they arrest it doesn't matter if you have an i paid parking ticket or i are a suspected serial killer both are fair game first strip searches the cases brought suit court over a year ago after manning's albert florence was searched several times when he was arrested for a fine he already paid it well let albert the story from here and he instructed me to lift both turned around. and if you like my genitals my tongue cough even thinking about it even speaking about it still brings me you know chills. and
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corgi describe the searches as you millie a day and said it made him feel like less of a man which made him take the case to the supreme court but let's take a step back and see what a strip search actually does this is a video from the federal law enforcement training center take a look you're about to see the great we. were visual search. the initial verbal command is an important. story jones going to be forced to through we don't come on you know. ok so is there remaining professional and courteous let's continue to go for coffee please. push the coolers of the bridge why she had made it all time this is the most vulnerable moment you've just asked someone to undress in front of you proper to use verbal commands are essential. well it doesn't seem that bad let's see what happens next
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that's pretty legs. the water. ok been. in storage about it. ok so i guess checking the person from front to rear is to be expected but it doesn't stop there to spread your legs. when the water ok ok with this we. can. be people and work. that's right or normal stuff search is very thorough and you could say. the uncertain keep in mind that these days the us has the highest incarceration rate in the world and on a serious note to put it into perspective there are now more people under correctional supervision in america. than of the state of massachusetts and of the
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million arrests each here seven hundred thousand of them are over minor offenses now this all comes in an age where more and more americans are crying foul over the pat downs the t.s.a. performs during airport security screening and i can guarantee you a strip search is much more invasive than someone touching off your clothes people behind bars are not your average traveler but this ruling does bring up a number of questions about prisoner rights within the u.s. so why are more americans not outraged because americans agree with the fact that when a person is arrested they are also for putting their rights no matter how small the a fact so could strip searches continue to become routine. you know as routine as reading the miranda rights i for one don't plan on finding out firsthand but we here at hearts he will continue to follow the developments of this story and in the meantime what do you think are these strip searches a good idea of leave us your comments. well it looks like the days of the dollar
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the almighty dollar could be coming to an end and as a currency weekend's countries are looking for alternatives and just last week at the bric summit an n.d.a. the five most rapidly growing countries agreed to ditch the dollar and trade using their own currency so has the dollar seen its day and as the herald going down with that earlier i spoke with michael snyder founder of the economic collapse blog dot com i asked him why science are we seeing that the dollar is weakening take a lesson well a lot of nations around the world order heating we tired of using the u.s. dollar i was essentially the defacto currency of the world for the past four decades essentially u.s. dollar has been used in most international treaty transactions and in particular in a trade or you are back in one nine hundred seventy three the united states made an agreement with saudi arabia to trade to do all trade in u.s. dollars and is greatly benefited the united states but recently we've seen
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particularly some of these emerging countries and you talk about if you stood up and say well why should the u.s. dollar continue to have so preeminence for example china but i mean none of this project into china will have the largest economy in the world of your one sixteen so china sitting there and you're asking well why shouldn't our currency have more place on the global stage and so we started to see a lot of these agreements come into place for example china and russia have been trading with each other in their own currencies were already year and then just a few months ago we saw china and japan the second and third largest economies only global reach an agreement where they would start promoting the use of their own currencies and trade with one another so we're starting to see this huge move away from u.s. dollar. and i also want to talk about the garo the dollar's widely known as the world's reserve currency but it's not just the dollar necessarily that's slipping
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as the euro and a near tail oh absolutely that the euro is it good for differently we do because in greece or jiggle italy spain in europe is really starting to crumble economically and so that's the reason we're seeing the value of the euro go down for a long time people thought that your the girl would be the primary arrival of the dollar but it is the financial problems which are far from over people need to realize that europe is headed for for some really really hard times and the euro is going to continue to do so decline in value and we're to see some of these emergency emerging currencies become a more widely used the more widely demanded now michael would you say that the euro is and more didn't care that but are. well i think you're looking at a couple different problem that you know we have this huge financial crisis back in two thousand and eight which was then read on wall street but now i believe that
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the next great going into a crisis is going to be spent in europe and back restart unemployment europe in the euro zone going to ten point eight percent increase for ten months in a row or they're heading into another tremendous recession. and there was a lack of confidence in the euro we're going to see the value declined up as far as the u.s. dollar well first thing in the world the one i'm not to use it so much as the global trade currencies you know wasn't mentioned earlier and then we're seeing other things for example china and saudi arabia recently came to that she was agreeing that were they would build this massive oil refinery in saudi arabia and most people don't realize that the chinese actually buys more oil precisely or a few today the united states the just so china is becoming the most important customer to study raises the whole of the saudi arabia stick to trading in old u.s. dollars if china is a more important customer or the bad one we're talking about dollar as our elders their parents say coming can read and not send letter a place that. well that's
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a good question china is saying hey what about our currency or resisting other proposals by the i.m.f. or the united nations how we can do about a basket of currencies or ultimately a new global currency which would be a truly global currency so there's all kinds of proposals out there so we're just going to have to see how our ways out so ultimately the people are talking about the united nations you know i am out there putting out papers or putting their reports talking to need about the rules about the need to move away from the u.s. dollar and then another a big factor is better and you know you look there will be expected to go around and around the world the united states was greatly loved but today animosity toward the united states is the right thing and that's you also if you really part of this move away from the u.s. dollar because people don't like the united states so much anymore so the question the why should we continue to use u.s. currency now we are seeing the assigned michael that the dollar is slipping by as
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bad now the standard it reserve currency for quite some time you mentioned china how realistic is that that china as a currency would be the alternative or china bring much promoting this like is that they're about to become the largest economy in the world in just a few years ever example china is making all sorts of agreements in africa and promoting to use the chinese currency throughout their approach in cotton and so there's been all kinds of newspapers articles about this lately and meanwhile the you know they seem to be pulling back and then also you see china recently made an agreement with the united arab emirates to trade oil in chinese currency instead you know just a dollar or so china is being very aggressive in this regard so you know we're definitely seeing. a shift of paradigm shift take place now michael's lead of what the shift happened is that going to happen. well it. is probably going to
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play out over time. over a period of time now what critics still respect is a loss of competence in the us dollar and in us debt and and a big rewrite of the index because that is we're seeing the u.s. budget deficit absolutely exploded over fifteen and a half trillion dollars just in bronco baba but it's been enough it's risen by about five trillion more dollars in federal reserve wanted to do you think it's been printing money and expanding the money supply routes world even if nothing role does grow stable currency and that's part of the reason they're saying that maybe we need to raise that dollar because the dollar is not stable and more they're playing games at the dollar the united states average running a tremendous amount of the rest of world sees this and they're saying ok maybe it's time for an alternative so this is all happening at qana mess are talking about it but i'm asking you i mean so what why should the average american care whether the importation of dollars that's far already the average citizen. well because the
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u.s. dollar has been used at all on trade and international trade all these years it's created tremendous remembered always called. the star extra dollars the trillion dollar will but it changes that also need to remember dollars and it means us there were. more dramatically. the dollar will be crying and will see your united states for price of gasoline the president. will go what thought average americans would agree with you or. your smaller and with gas prices as high as they are right now i have a feeling back america ends when i want them to go any higher so this would be disastrous for the prices at the pompous sounds like hopefully it doesn't go there michael thanks for coming on the show that was michael snyder founder of the economic collapse blog dot com well primaries being held today in wisconsin maryland and right here in the you see there romney has officially had the halfway
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mark in the delegates count on the republican establishment is now zeroing in on the g.o.p. front runner arts and has reports from college park maryland find out what's on voters' minds this is maryland the wealthiest state in the union the average median household income here is seventy one thousand dollars and it's mitt romney who reigned supreme amongst republican voters who voted for mitt romney just because of this chance to beat obama because he is he's an essential. experiences an executive nobody else can. i just like it's politics like you think he's going to be really well really good for the country why don't you voting for any of the other candidates ron paul for instance he's too far out. and. that's not the person i would vote for no not really i mean i know he's. things but not
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for country i don't like. libertarian view. and i don't like his. defense but not everyone being so he is the only politician he's the only person running for president who has a fidelity to the constitution he's had it since the seventy's he has never left everything. economic policy social policy close together all the wars overseas and actually doing it not just to get everything to me and says makes complete sense so that's why i'm voting for ron paul he's the only candidate i. win against. so it seems that romney has the support of all. it's wrong for with his fresh ideas week size the young and upcoming in the state. leaders of the march from polls far better. well the establishment pen's their hopes on
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a romney the other candidates are throwing the towel in their us presidential contest young voters have rallied around ron paul and continue to support him although the chances of the seventy six year old winning are unlikely for ron paul and his supporters it is not about winning the election but changing the political discourse so what's next for his campaign more about that well i was joined earlier by a lou rockwell the chairman of the living god mrs institute and author of this book the left or right i first asked him about ron paul statement that the campaign isn't about winning here's a take. it is it's pretty unlikely although i would say not impossible that some people who feel that run is more far more delegates than the official media are giving him credit for and of course if there were to be a brokered convention i agree that it's unlikely but not impossible though. who knows what could happen in. warren g. harding my favorite person of the twentieth century and of even though he went into
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the republican convention way behind in delegates everybody liked him and because everybody liked him so much and he was such a dignified and pro liberty candidate by the way sort of the ron paul of this time he ended up being the nominee and winning by a huge margin one of the biggest margins ever in american history so this is an important but again i would argue the ron paul has as an a in a more fundamental sense already won the election i mean he's already won the future really more than more important the election because of all these young people millions of young people energized educated by him dedicated to his ideals so since political change comes after a change in the climate of opinion policy has changed and will be continuing to change the climate of opinion so i think no matter who you know whether it's a bad guy a or bad guy b. who is the eventual victory in november with a ron paul and the ron paul ron paul's ideas crusade to a tremendous future for america and for iran if they are adopted as i believe they
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are being adopted you mentioned young people and one of our reporters went down to ron paul again over in maryland just a few days ago and he's been described as somewhat of a rock star so a lot of energy surrounding ron paul so do you think that this is kind of a preview of what's the common term the political shift that young people and these are future generations are going to be what our political ideology is going to be like this is the future and it's not only in united states ron paul his followers. all over the world in brazil and turkey in western europe in japan in china i mean all i'm sure in russia too all over the world young people are looking to rob well they see it as something so different from the regular politician and as offering solutions to the horrible problems that we face that we don't need to go down an economic role and we don't have to have a police state we don't it's a bloody empire murdering hundreds of thousands millions of people we don't have to
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have that kind of country so we can have a better america and i think people overseas want a ron paul america certainly young people here and it's not only teenagers and college students kids ten and twelve years old are ron paul supporters so ron paul is the future even if it's romney or obama was inaugurated coming in january now a lot of what's behind this whole phenomenon with ron paul is that he's he's been called consistent in his message anti-war message small government. to what extent do you think ron paul has been successful and changing the political conversation especially within the republican party. well certainly among you know the young people are a different story from the republican part of the rip i must say i don't have much respect or liking for the republican party throwing a party is pretty bad bunch well may have to look at what they did when george w. bush was sort of the romney of his time you know vast deficits bass wars expansion
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of the police state i'm in a bomb is just george w. bush with a different haircut so it's. i think the republican party i don't know i mean i think it has to be my own view is that this is an educational struggle and hearts and minds are changed outside of political parties which are just partisan and it's just about my gang instead of your gang being in power it's not a very inspiring thing and i think kids see it see through it they see this corrupt they see that this is not the path to follow so i think. again i don't know but the republican party i'm sure there are some decent power people in the republican party so should the temporary ones who went into it to support ron paul but the party itself it's it's you know it's corrupt it's authoritarian it represents the worst of america the democrats to to also to the by the way so they're all bad all both parties are bad the two wings of the same predatory bird has published
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a report so i think it has to be outside of politics outside of. outside of both of those parties and i think you know the ron paul people are that they these kids are not part of the political system but they are going to change this country and change will have to come from the bottom not it never comes from the top down except change towards evil comes from the top down so change for good rule come from these kids and i makes me very enthusiastic very optimistic about the future despite the economic troubles we have the vicious american police state you know the so-called supreme court just the other day said that people can be strip searched if they're picked up for for not walking a dog on a leash i mean even. you know it's just incredible what's going on so the government is getting worse and worse and worse every day and it started out pretty fast. but the american people are getting better and this is a struggle and i think the struggle can be won and it's going to be won in the
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hearts and minds of young people those are the people ron paul touches not only because he has the right ideas and he certainly has the right ideas about peace about sound money about prosperity about civil liberties and individual liberty but because he's so transparently an honest man i mean you compare him to everybody else in politics ron paul you may not agree with him but you know he's honest and he's saying what he really thinks so he really is unique i don't think by the way the success of ron paul or mean that we should the politics is the way to go about things because he is a unique other than anybody else like him. and he's going to continue to be a leader after he's out of congress is going to continue to lead these young people many many many more of us older older types too towards a very different kind of country so it's exciting and what's going to happen in november all these primaries and so forth are far less important in the scheme of things in the long term and what ron paul is doing with these young people right larry.
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