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i don't know a damn question about the. pick. just a moment this is our team from moscow the headlines from our age q. here at ten thirty pm the first u.s. marines reaches straight as america's military moves in on the asia pacific region to challenge china's growing influence. deadly debt burden the greek pensioner shoots himself in front of parliament in athens amid a soaring suicide rate and growing financial desperation across the e.u. . and russia was against arming the syrian rebels with peace efforts underway saying they can topple president assad and it will only lead to card. i'm kevin
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know in the detail of all those stories with me in full from moscow and thirty minutes after more from a loner in the team back in washington d.c. now enjoy. well the g.o.p. primary seems to be winding down and mitt romney appears to be the candidate that is going to face off with obama in november so of course that both sides are now posturing on every topic imaginable to try to win over voters one of the most prized voting blocks is the rapidly growing latino vote so not surprisingly this week it's all eyes on immigration here last week the obama administration announced that they would pursue a policy change it would make it easier for undocumented immigrants who are relatives of american citizens and try to get their legal status to remain in the states and with their families while they go through that process right on the heels of that yesterday ice announce that they had arrested more than three thousand one hundred undocumented immigrants and it's six day operation that they
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called cross check and this operation was the largest immigration crackdown in history so some are seeing it as a way for the obama administration which is reported a staggering one million people in the last three years to maintain an appearance of being tough on immigration while at the same time pandering to latino voters and other avenues that the obama administration isn't the only ones who's going to be playing both sides of the field appears that mitt romney is seizing the opportunity to remind latino voters of obama's campaign promises to them. let the immigrant community not forget that while he uses this as a political as a political weapon he does not take responsibility for fixing the problems we have . yes the latino community should not forget that obama promised to tackle immigration reform in his first year in office but it also shouldn't forget romney take on immigration like when he was asked during a debate if he supported the arizona approach to tackling the problem. so going
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back to the question that was asked the right course for america is to drop these lawsuits against arizona and other states that are trying to do the job right the body isn't doing. right. i will drop those lawsuits lawsuits sunday one. o r when everything interview he touted his record on immigration as a qualifier to his conservative. i think the biggest misconception would be that i'm a guy that comes from massachusetts and therefore i can be conservative but you know if you look at my record of massachusetts and see that i balance the budget lowered taxes nineteen times in forced illegal immigration laws got english immersion in our schools. yeah that's right because this is america we speak english right now have the g.o.p. just loves that talking point but romney didn't stop it just reminding latino voters of obama's broken promises he also had to say that this will be a priority of mine if i become president to make sure we finally reform our
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immigration laws step by step secure the border improve our legal immigration system so we can keep people here and welcome people here who will make america a stronger nation. really so romney claims that he wants to keep people here not for interesting especially considering that he seemed pretty opposed to that stance just back in january my point is we're not going to go round and round people up in buses and ship them moments that will let people make their own decisions based upon their employment. opportunities here or lack there of. yasser romney might not want to round people up the way the obama administration did this week but make no mistake he does not want documents of immigrants that are in the country now to stay here and as for the kids of undocumented immigrants well romney is quite a harsh stance when it comes to the dream act you know the bill that senate republicans shot down in december and they did want those kids to be educated either. my point is we're not going to go round and round people up in buses and
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ship them home instead we'll let people make their own decisions based upon their employment opportunities here or lack thereof. through g.o.p. form even though he's argued time and time again that we need to make laws to get undocumented immigrants to sell the ports there is one thing i can say that the military. the. wishes of the military can be. raised. and you know there's. so many things that undocumented immigrants who have lived in this country their entire lives they're not good enough for an education but they are good enough to die for our country and then maybe they can be said is it if they make it back to the numerous wars that we're currently fighting it appears the operation trick voter is in full swing by both parties it doing his regular double speak and the obama administration pandering one moment and deporting the next
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election a solid seven months away you can bet that this is far from the last we've heard from both mitt and obama when it comes to immigration but at this point looks as if the latino population is going to have to put their stock in what they see to be a lesser of two evils. now we've ever heard of. or prison loaf slop loaf bears many names but something that prisoners across the u.s. know all too well the forced to eat it and one particular case in milwaukee an inmate named terrence proved became violently ill after eating it for two dates experience stomach pain vomiting a loss of weight of fourteen pounds and other health problems last week a federal appeals court ruled that what proof is served could violate the eighth amendment be considered cruel and unusual punishment and it's just another sign of deteriorating and inhumane and prison conditions and treatment here in the u.s. so what else do we know about the food at the prison population here to discuss those needs dr jeffrey ian ross criminologist and professor at the university of baltimore geoffrey thanks much for joining us tonight tell me more about neutralise
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i've seen the pictures and it definitely doesn't look like something that's very appetizing sure not every prisoner gets you through typically somebody who's in solitary confinement could be somebody in a supermax prison it's done for punitive and it's also nutritional purpose. says the president is required to feed a prisoner every day there's no guarantee you did it is tasty there's no guarantees you know about the texture the taste the smell typically of the neutral low for prison loafers it's called a number of facilities is the food that is served that day it's ground up and then they put in loaves and serve to the prisoners that day it's supposed to have the same nutritional value as the food that every prisoner eats during the day and it's supposed to not lose any of its nutritional value having been ground to be a punishment you know i mean you see you say that it's a punitive as well as nutritional food sure how many people enjoy eating their.
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meals in a kind of meatloaf fashion every day they have no choice with respect to what goes into the meal most prisoners will get their breakfast will get their lunch will get their dinner go also have the ability to go to the commissary and get some food stuffs basic kind of junk food that sort of thing to kind of round out the if not nutrition but the taste in the quality of the food they eat but here they have absolutely no say over what they're going to eat and that among other reasons is what's motivating this this lawsuit and it's quite unusual too that this lawsuit is going forward and it's getting some traction because the prison loaf knew for a loaf it's been around for at least. open question about it but that's the thing right is that we've seen this is not a first a lawsuit over from this one is actually going forward i mean i have other people had the same reactions as you know as terence proved here with
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a violent elevator involving you know it's one thing to say that food doesn't have to taste good for prisoners i don't think that anyone is going to expect that they get corny meals but it's another thing if it's actually unsafe and makes the mill prisoners have complained about food since day one and doesn't have to be neutral over prison or a lot of the prison food. that is sold purchased by jails and prisons in the united states is of substandard quality the fruits are bruised sometimes it's spoiled the expertise expiration dates of past that sort of thing and the people who are cooking the food do the best they can with what they're given now prison food is also depends upon what you've eaten before if you're homeless you've been on the street for a long time prison food might be great if you're in the army if you're used to institutional food prison food is very similar now there's a whole continuum there's places where the food is excellent food places where the food is very very poor and the food varies based on the day can also be based very
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based on the part of the country in which an inmate is incarcerated so there's a lot of variability in that sense he would say that chats as overall broad sweeping statement prison food is unconstitutional and is cruel and unusual punishment but just looking at this case right back at the court has actually decided that he should get representation but it should go through you know what i can i mean for this that's like saying that if you have to go for the minneapolis system clearly it's going to mean that they're going to pay more attention to the kinds of food that they're going to serve the inmates but whether or not the inmate prevails it's hard to say so that's something to something to keep in mind when we're talking about food in the prison lowson in the neutral of that sort of thing but again a lot of this is situational depends upon the prison system whether we're talking about the feds where the we're talking about the different states some states are
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better some some are not it also depends on you know the income level of it of an inmate two if they can supplement their their diet with commissary food so it's not an open and shut black and white kind of case prisoners of always complain about the food bill continue to do it and this is just one more added don't mention to the. all the of living and quality of life but you know i mean is there something particularly compelling about this case or do we suddenly see some kind of i shipped an attitude because we also saw the supreme court ruling just recently. the system in california is inhumane because the prisons are celebrate crowded then again we also saw the supreme court really yesterday that anybody can get strip search no matter what your offense is when you walk in so i mean i don't know to me that any patterns i don't think we can generalize from this just one case i mean the law is dynamic and these prison cases are dynamic too it's more difficult for prisoners to launch legal challenges now with
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a prison live edition reform and it's more costly for them to do it the judges are less likely to hear these kinds of cases they see them as frivolous kinds of suits and they're more quickly to dismiss the fact that this is a big our prison population gets them are frivolous they say these types of lawsuits you know i mean that's kind of a problem to no question and another thing too is prisons or cutting back in their expenditures and they're going to cut back on many things we're going to cut back on the salaries that we're going to give correctional officers through to combat cut back on food living conditions and so on and i see this as part of a trend there probably will be increasing kinds of lawsuits whether or not they prevail in the courts is hard to say i got a feeling that this is not going to prevail because you know the constitution does not specify you know what the food quality needs to be yes they must provide a standard of care they must provide a quality of living but it doesn't rise to a certain threshold and that's i got a feeling that as it progresses through the and make it there i don't think i will
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we will i will keep an eye on it jeffrey thanks so much for joining us tonight my pleasure. it's time for our last break of the evening the only back arizona wants to criminalize annoying people on the internet is when our school time and i don't have the hour obama logs the charge of social darwinism and g.o.p. i could facebook help stop the spread of s.t.d. and all that again after the break. there hasn't been anything yet on t.v. . used to get the maximum political impact. before the source material is for soaps he journalism honest.
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we want to present. something else. if it makes commission dates in believe me oh just pay me one a to execution date is enough inadvisable two more like. you know more than fifty percent of the people who are actually in texas are not. you know live in north darfur it's not. because it's not and you know we execute our convicted capital
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murder we have the highest execution rate in america we're not afraid to do it we do it well this becomes a more. difficult comes. along i have no hope. i will get a letter your dad is due to be executed next week then as appears to be it's you know you can loose here want to be appearing to be in a manner of me say and i say that it's time to go. and i would leave them in business for the chamber of. commerce trade till afterward it.
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our guys it's time for sides tool time award and tonight we give you the state has been honored way too many times even passed we told you about arizona's papers please immigration law the governor's decree that allowed residents to carry concealed weapons without a permit a bill that would allow businesses with moral objections to refuse to pay for birth control if it was for contraceptive purposes because they got only reason to call them out and it has to do with house bill twenty five forty nine they have a surface it's designed to combat bullying and stalking making it a crime to use an electronic device to talk to someone in a way that would care if i intimidate threaten harass annoy or affect and yes i'm nor hearing someone on the internet would actually be a crime now to give you
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a bit of background here this house bill was designed on a framework of old state legislation that's designed to stop harassing phone calls and so the bills co-sponsor house minority leader chad campbell even admits that this is a way to modernize old language this was not an attack on any first amendment rights you see some of the bullying problems we've had in high schools and grade schools across the country facebook posts you know attacking people twitter messages things like that again we're trying to update the stocking code to reflect the modern day. all right no big deal the legislators are just trying to make sure that nobody out there gets harassed with just a simple little update well they would make it illegal to quote otherwise disturb by repeated anonymous electronic or digital communications the peace quiet a right of privacy of any person at the place for the communications were received the basis of this means that all those people on the internet believe comment after comment on blogs or are you tube page well that would be against the law it just
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shows us really confused lawmakers are out there saying that commenting repeatedly on the repeatedly on the internet is the same thing as calling somebody over and over and over and over again on the phone it's pretty clear to anybody who's ever used the internet that it's not but thankfully the rest of the world realizes how wrong it would be to criminalize free speech after all that is exactly what this bill is really aiming to do they're trying to say that you can't use your phone your computer or any of your digital divide because to say what you think about someone or something the language just so insanely broad the anything you say on the internet could be considered a crime so those annoying lewd comments on you tube or facebook those would be a crime in arizona now thankfully groups across the country are starting to speak out against this law like the media coalition who says that it's unconstitutional and a letter calling on governor jan brewer to veto h.b. twenty five forty nine coalition writes government made criminalize speech that rises to the level of harassment and many states have laws that do so but the legislation takes a lot meant to address irritating phone calls and apply that to communication on
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websites blogs list serv and other internet communication oh by the way the reason we showed you that is because the our i am the m.p.a. are backers of the media coalition that's right the groups that have supported pretty radical copyright protection measures out there things like so diplomatic sorry censor where borders searches of all personal media devices even they think the arizona taking it too far and it goes for conan crazies are against it think of things from think. and here's the i thing on the cake as the daily caller is thomas grier points out an article arizona has its own constitution that protects free speech maybe even better than the us constitution it says every person may freely speak write and publish on all subjects not only are they violating the first amendment but they're also violating their own state's constitution but thankfully state lawmakers have started noticing at the outcry they've actually decided not to send this bill to governor brewer for signature just yet now now they want to
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revise the language but still h.b. twenty five forty nine in its current form passed both houses of arizona's legislator and that alone earns the state's nights time. hi guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening are two you learn that lauren lyster outs of the capital account here on r.g.p. sorry and nick gillespie editor in chief of reason t.v. and reason dot com thanks for joining me guys thank you so you know quite a war of words going on there so the president is back on the campaign trail he took a hit at the g.o.p. budget that's out there and take a look take a listen to what it is that you say. this congressional republican budget is
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something different altogether it is a trojan horse disguised as deficit reduction plans is really an attempt to impose a radical vision on our country it is thinly veiled social darn darwinism. then we bailed social darwinists i mean those are pretty strong words we've heard a lot of socialism coming from the opposite side and now we have social darwinism what do you think i think it's a joke i mean this is sloganeering and you're talking about a guy who wants more spending about three point eight trillion dollars a year now in ten years if he got his way we'd be spending about five point eight trillion dollars paul ryan would be spending and the republicans would be spending four point nine trillion dollars so any way you cut it this is not about cutting spending. they're all the budget sucked ok well right but i think the reality is and i'm sure you know the nuts and bolts of exactly what's in the ryan budget
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a lot better than i do but whatever obama is saying about it who cares this is not what's going to get passed him but it is that what's going to get passed it's going to be passed is probably going to be a disaster they cut a dollar or thumping at the end of the day and so karen what do you think of this is where we've gotten to right though is that like are you there can't be any other conversation other than if you want to talk about you know some kind of a health care coverage that has to be had to mean you're a socialist and at the same time if you look at certain republican policies would you cut a lot from social programs. then you end up being a social welfare budget but they don't cut it all and that's like the you are your i don't have the there were no no no but they cut over expected increases because everybody wants to spend more there are budget proposals out there that say ok you know what we're going to keep spending level and you have to realize that in the two thousand we increase spending by about sixty percent so if you're talking about keeping spending level who's to spend on no no no and that's another point to the real question is the breakdown the breakdown in the budget process this is that the
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senate democrats the democratically controlled senate hasn't passed a budget in several years and they won't they refused to what is good about that is that over the past couple years because it's just been continuing resolutions we've been spending about the same as we use to which i actually are it is a good thing we're not really answering our social darwinism question as. it was darwinism would be ok i mean we haven't always but it's all right if you go when you go if you think you need to work harder in order to achieve more opportunity for themselves the problem with public and budget though is that they're constantly saying oh we gotta cut spending except on defense obama saying all right we got here spend all of our. budget when they talk about the spending and how much our country's in trouble conveniently he leaves out defense in his charts and i you know medicare medicaid social security here that we've been developing. increases the fund spending even more so republicans over a ten year period so it's the unreality of budget discussions. are less than one of
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them are right. how about having sex with peter thanks larry. their ruling makes it unconstitutional to keep an eighteen year old from having consensual sex with whoever they want it may not be illegal anymore but teachers can still be punished by the department of education if someone files a complaint a teacher can lose their license if they have sex with a consenting eighteen year old student. so i guess the law used to be that you were twenty one or had to be twenty one or to have sex i now if you're eighteen or older you're a consenting adult so that means we're talking about. more of the time in small town ohio so you. have a blanket right to make jokes about the fast to your country i mean that's very interesting and you know that just means that your teacher is going to have and. i
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don't agree with that because it should never be against the law for a consenting adult to have sex with their teacher but come on it's still going to be the biggest scandal ever and they're going to lose their job if they're having sex with their students that's still a conflict of interest or something i'm sure that whoever is running this is going to make an a.t.m. whatever the law that's absurd i mean i do think you know if you believe adults can consent you know that it shouldn't be you shouldn't be a legal but you're right that i mean a school by school policy i would think you would you don't send your kids to go have sex with their teachers especially you know. i was i went to catholic schools i was taught by so this was especially the case i think of holds even in public schools all right. ok first of all we see a lot of journalists out there these days that are really you know the kids of former journalists are the kids of former politicians here's one example from the
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thing. you often talk of. the century was to be the next great american century in this small money you'll generation deliver that great american century with just terrible unemployment numbers. yes that a wrestler who actually got to interview for president bill clinton the father of a failed journalist i'm so yes yes chelsea had a short lived contract there but anyway phil griffin from m.s.m. you see when you talk to the tampa bay times i'm sorry i don't care about journalists i want fair minded smart people who understand the world and interpret it for journalist great this notion that you somehow have to have done something to earn so-called journalist credentials stop i think there's points to be made either way right there's a lot of opinion shows out there and stuff like that they're not getting i don't think that bill griffin should be criticized for making a statement there is a reality of the direction that cable television news has gone in he's
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a businessman he is the president of amazon b.c. he has to have a profitable successful business model i mean come on people have to get realistic about what is working i do think that the credentialism that has crept into journalism professional journalism is is a bad thing generally but by the same token there are good journalists and bad journalists i'm not sure that luke russert or chelsea clinton really fit that bill and am i going to be really i mean i don't think you're so young i got to wrap it up so we got to go but thanks for joining me tonight bad fit good night.
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