and three. three. three. three bloggers video for your media trial against the stream media guns are cheap. today on our t.v. our head it's of allowed down under two hundred american aryans movements of a defacto base in darwin australia also you get the latest moves on the robo geo political chessboard we're going to let you shoot and potentially kill another human being and then the law will not only provide you with immunity from criminal prosecution but also immunity from any future civil litigations all these so-called stand your ground laws that are fired these days after the death of a seventeen year old african-american teen and shooter claims it was self-defense but does this give gun owners the license to kill him or authorities in western

pennsylvania have charged eleven year old jordan brown as an adult the boys will have a long trial together in adult court not old enough to drink drive or vote but just old enough to be tried and sentenced as adults children as young as a lot of them are spending their entire lives behind bars after the u.s. justice system lock them up and threw away the key but now let's have to rehabilitate. runs a pro for young here in washington d.c. as well and our lottery are seen. starting off this hour australia is rolling out the red carpet for two hundred u.s. marines that are today they're the first of the twenty five hundred soldiers expected in darwin the troops will be rotating in and out of the region every six months or so as part of an agreement. president obama and prime minister julia

guillard back in november it's the latest move by the u.s. military to elp up its presence in the region and a major shift on the global geo political chessboard the u.s. of course has no issue with australia president obama even went as far as to call the country one of america's closest allies this does however demonstrate an ever increasing american interests in the pacific but many are questioning the exact motives behind the move and none are more critical than china after packing on one explains why china is concerned about the developments i think the situation no. caught the attention of the chinese communist malty been appalled nun's house was sort of some signs both discussion and the new chinese government with chinese government. started to. some consensus a perception that the u.s.

and china relations is in a sealed game now in this regard it will have some very important implications of the change of chinese foreign policy. he is going to stare us the precipice of china. what will be i think is one of the possibility is the chinese government for the future apart from continue east resourceful because he promised see an economic. diplomatic activities in the over seas the chinese government is going to see to take a more assertive more clear position to try to appeal for owns the internal politics of our countries number one number two i think is also for the chinese government to. increase and to. increase its military

presence in order to protect the kind of mess of the interest that it has overseas. so as you just heard china is certainly concerned over today's developments this comes as china itself looks to increase its presence in various parts of the middle east currently the country has its sights set on pakistan china already has a port in dar where it built back in two thousand and five last year pakistan asked china to build a naval fleet there and maintain a regular presence at the port now china has denied the possibility of a naval base there but this statement has not subdued fears from the u.s. and india there is to teach importance of this port cannot be understated it is close to the strait of hormuz which is where one fifth of the world's oil travels through it was the scene of a tense standoff between american and iranian able forces months ago after president mahmoud othman then a doctor and says shut the waterway down today's developments along with china's

interest in the region shows have a chess pieces of these two global powers are slowly gravitating toward one another we will continue to follow this story as it expands. well now to a hot topic in america today it's being called a license to kill the stand your ground laws coming under scrutiny after the death of a florida teen trayvon martin but the man that pulled the trigger remains free and that's because the police took his word that he shot martin in self-defense and florida is one of the twenty four states that allows people to use deadly force wherever they are wherever they are as long as they claim self-defense artie's and we're going to organize it takes a close look at the controversial stand your ground law. if the second amendment to the us constitution had a soundtrack. the right to bear arms would best be recognized by

gunfire. the land of the free is the most heavily armed nation in the world with two hundred ninety four million firearms floating around america hi i'm talking nora a black belt patriot it's a great thing to my home i could use my roundhouse kick. for a leg on the barrel of my gun. in a reported thirty states a u.s. doctrine known as the counsel law allows homeowners to shoot and kill intruders without becoming liable to prosecution since two thousand and five the freedom for gun owners to thank him shoot in the name of self-defense has widened and her controversial legislation known as the stand your ground law experts say it allows gun owners to use deadly force to protect themselves and public eye sensually delivering a license to kill it tells people you know what if you're in a confrontation on the street with someone or getting into an argument or there's a physical altercation even if you could safely retreat from that just walk away

and go home you don't have to we're going to let you shoot and potentially kill another human being and then the war will not only provide you with proper immunity from criminal prosecution but also immunity from any future civil litigations that stand your ground first became law in florida but recently received national attention following the deadly shooting of seventeen year old trayvon martin the unarmed student was carrying candy and iced tea when he was shot dead by a neighborhood watch volunteer police released the gunman george zimmerman without charges on was our son but trayvon is your son. a lot of people can relate to our situation. and it breaks their heart just like you. said. continue to fight for justice for since stand your ground took effect the number of so-called justifiable homicides in florida have tripled as mourns parents mourn the

loss of their son u.s. gun laws remain historically loose in many states citizens with criminal records and prior restraining orders are still able to perceive gun permits. critics say easy access comes courtesy of the national rifle association or n.r.a. a gun for rights organization and tory sleep powerful u.s. lobbying group that reportedly spent more than seven million dollars on political ads during the two thousand and ten with u.s. midterm elections pay for by the n.r.a. everything that the n.r.a. pushes at the state and federal level is designed to sell more weapons that's what this is about there's a lot of money thrown around whether it's an array campaign contributions to florida politicians or corporate money that can be spread around a number of different ways since two thousand and five the stand your ground law has been adopted in twenty five states throughout america since ninety six you've

done a big bobby kennedy or said it was about a million people in our country are going to do to gun violence and so you know as the most powerful nation on the planet the british nation that is some people's minds the most democratic nation by this clearly something that you can see that people should each other oh i'm so sorry since nine eleven the u.s. civil liberties and freedom have suffered in the name of national security while new gun laws up some ulterior nicely made it easier for americans to arm themselves reading the land of liberty locked and loaded up or die of heart see me or. i will talk more about the implications of being allowed to stand your ground mark walters host of armed american radio and co-author of lessons from arms america. alicia lawrie hi mark nice to see you. critics of the of this law say that it

encourages this kind of vigilante style of justice in this case he was a police officer you know he was the self-proclaimed neighborhood watchman so does this law that give people what it does is give people the right to shoot and kill people. i don't think any responses we armed citizen would take kindly to you we all want to be safe we all have a god given natural right to defend our lives in fact our body has a response known as fight for life and anybody who is not fully armed and there are millions and millions of americans who rock will carry their firearms with concealed weapons permits in whatever state will they reside in forty nine of them doubtless that have the right to use that firearm to defend their life the stand your ground law is good law in the sense that it extends what we know was the castle doctrine in the home to any other place that we have a right to be and i as a proponent of firearms ownership certainly would never recommend what happened in

florida you know in fact on my radio program i make it very clear don't be the next george zimmerman by that i mean you give up your stand your ground defense when you no longer stand your ground and it appears that george zimmerman was actually following this individual where he wasn't serious round but certainly i would recommend sort of most of the top trainers in the united states are always we if you can that's the best avenue the avenue of a suspect but that is that one of the more controversial aspects of the live man it's hard to argue over the fact that you know if you feel like your life is in danger that you said be able to protect yourself but one of the more controversial aspects of this bill is that it doesn't require you to flee had allows you to kind of pull the trigger and say under ground that i mean and the. last resort it absolutely should be a last resort but at the same time i don't believe that that's not rehearsal i don't think you should have to flee in order to defend your wife what if you're there with your wife or your children and you and absolutely should you try

absolutely you should try you should the best and best way would it not slightest what it at all costs but for crying out loud if you can't leave if you are not alone you have a right to defend your way so i don't believe that that's controversial i think the way well you know we put it this way but fact that bill was being in. vote by someone does not necessarily mean that that is or should be effective for that particular case george zimmerman you know just because someone uses it doesn't mean that it necessarily should apply in each individual case i think we do. and i think what angers people about this case as you know there is a lot of conflicting reports coming out a lot of unknowns but the fact that zimmerman wasn't you know he wasn't arrested and he was just taken at face value that hey i did actions out that bad but in this particular situation he was unarmed he was holding a bag of skittles and an arizona iced tea so that kind of raises some questions as to you know the justification of using this stand your ground law but also.

since this law was passed a few years ago i think it was in two thousand and five in florida justifiable homicide so-called justify justifiable homicides have skyrocketed in florida not just in florida nationally where this law exists so i don't i can't really speak there were i whether that defense has been used as a result of stand your ground or whether you have an effective justice system will determine whether or not a case this is actually a case of justifiable homicide here in the fact that somebody uses now lots of claiming self-defense because of stand around here i see my ground and i'm defending my life i think the justice system the prosecutors will make a decision based on the evidence that they have i used the iraqi defense my life in two thousand and two before the stand your ground laws were in effect in florida and the result of it go on sorry. but as a result you know i want to say to my children that day and it was before the stand

your ground law before it was a stand your ground law which took effect in two thousand and five we have an inherent right to self-defense i need to be you stand your ground law simply codifies it and says hey we're not going to criminally prosecute you for doing this and we're still we're certainly not going to allow you to be sued out of house and home because someone took criminal action against you and your life in jeopardy and that definitely you know that the thing is that with what self-defense there is nothing in the constitution that says that you do have the right to self-defense it's more of a a moral or historically you know a legal in and theory you should be able to defend yourself but in the constitution there is nothing that explicitly says that. if the second amendment to the us constitution doesn't say you have a right to defend or the way to something based it's a sure you have a right to keep and bear arms which you all know that arms are used for self-defense and self-defense of the nation the us supreme court has upheld you cases were in two thousand eight hundred decision for d.c.

finding you however overturning the washington d.c. gun laws is unconstitutional and of course in the donald decision in two thousand and ten so the supreme where has that on the side of self-defense and you are correct about that we result if that is not written in the constitution however we have a god given right to defend our own rights in the us constitution form of second by recognize is that right now if you want to shift to another interesting i guess comparison switzerland has one of the highest. you know gun are separate it's because you know that there are required to have guns and take part in this military training because they have a militia army so for them they have a use guns as our military obligations there in switzerland the crime rate is so low that gun control is barely an issue but here in the us we don't have in the west where we don't have to use them for military applications much different from

when this law you know when the second amendment was read decades ago but the figures here show that have a gun doesn't make your home or community any safer so what's going on here what is the difference is it is it a cultural issue. well we're a country of over three hundred ten million people and we live in a free society as a result of with freedom comes responsibility and unfortunately we can't legislate responsibility we have the highest rate of incarceration in the free world in the united states of america and again i believe that's of by product of our freedom there are bad people there are bad people in all walks of life there are bad judges there are bad lawyers there are bad police officers there's someone from every profession in every walk of life sitting in a u.s. jail cell somewhere unfortunately we can't legislate morality and we can't legislate away bad people if it were simple as putting up a sign we could simply eliminate crime by saying no crime on the side of a highway as we entered the city unfortunately real life doesn't work that way we

are to switzerland it's a much smaller country but they are they have a gun culture and it goes back you know hundreds of years and switch on and resolutely correct they actually have automatic weapons floyd automatic weapons required in the hold of every wheel and use of all and they do not have a gun control i can't say gun control because there is no gun control where you don't have the cry problem that we have we don't have a gun problem in america we have a crime problem in america and to we go after the criminal and you actually actually work it was we have on our books already we have enough one control laws on the books what we need to do is unfortunate as laws and force our criminals are our cruel law and criminals really but want i wish i had the answer to that question i don't i wish i did made it as interesting to make it in comparison. with the country as have your citizens are that they can own guns back and one

scenario that seems to me it's you know more about these calls that their way said they don't quite have that success here but we are at a time are called terrorists thank you for coming on the show that was the house armed american radio and co-author of lessons for armed america. well the u.s. is one of the strictest countries in the world when it comes to cracking down on kids and each year hundreds of thousands of children are tried as adults and it's kids that are prime targets for physical and sexual abuse in adult jails and prisons and beyond being tried as adults the u.s. remains the only western country that sentences children to life without parole and it's a sentence seen as cruel and unusual by the international community the supreme court now taking up the subject of locking up kids for life and it wasn't too long ago that here in america kids could be handed the death penalty we take a look now at the consequences of trying to punish the bad out of america's

troubled youth. gordie's in western pennsylvania have charged eleven year old jordan brown as an adult the boys will have a line a trial together in adult court of late that his sentence is also the one that is why they're not old enough to drive drink or go but in america kids as young as seven years old can be tried as adults when you hold the youth accountable the same manner and passion in which you hold an adult that's just not right and it's not there michael can't knows what it's like to be a kid locked up and an adult prison you never know when i'm going to ask my duty to you so you can be fair and i. was going to have it it was locked up for the first time when he was twelve years old here at oak hill juvenile correctional facility and that wasn't and neither was the design and so rehabilitation which is an awful punishment you know having to run again and just for paying for. your lives like most kids that serve time as

a juvenile in the us he got into trouble again at seventeen he was charged with armed robbery as an adult he says for a kid being in an adult prison is a constant struggle to survive they know why it is we come off the bus and you don't know don't you want you just so they pull you when in reality trying to get a favor out of your father sexually you know and if they come out over you know and you become. he was spared from sexual abuse many kids aren't so lucky in fact one in five victims of sexual violence in jails and prisons are under the age of eighteen youth and all facilities are thirty six times more likely to commit suicide than those in the juvenile system on any given day in america ten thousand children are held in adult jails and prisons most of them have never been convicted of a crime and kids are fair game for solitary confinement camps as for five months he

spent twenty three and a half hours per day locked up alone i could of went crazy and if they were. just i would just i want to know from the roof would have known critics slam the practice of putting kids in adult jails as cruel and unusual punishment or less capable of understanding the consequences of their behavior their development is incomplete and that's why the supreme court struck down the death penalty for juveniles in two thousand and five but today the united states is the only country that sentences kids to life without parole it was viewed as a substitute for the ultimate penalty there are now twenty five hundred inmates that were sentenced to die in jail as children this is a peculiarly american phenomenon in which we tend to believe that harsher penalties the greater the public safety payoff kids should instead be rehabilitated says that's the focus on washington d.c. as newly opened new beginnings now walking into

a classroom at new beginnings is much different from walking into a classroom at other juvenile detention facilities that this is considered to be a model facility it's a system based on rewards rather than punishment and experts say that this system is much more effective at rehabilitating youths become productive members of society but unfortunately places like this and the u.s. are rare here kids are given a second chance but in most prisons throughout the country remain america's forgotten children hope for the future gone at an early age in washington liz wall our team. want to talk more about this kara adam sandler an organizer for the just kids partnership to the and the automatic prosecution of ted's as adults joins me now welcome kara so first off i want to get your thoughts on an excuse me your thoughts on putting kids and adult presence. we don't think that that is a good and maryland kids as young as fourteen can be automatically charged and

prosecuted in this state and we are working to try and stop that practice and why what is wrong with that process don't kids belong in adult prisons because we know it doesn't work a machine behaves doesn't work it doesn't make community saper it doesn't make kids they. just can't release or what happens to those who are city kids who are charged as adults and we found that those kids are often transfer action the juvenile system and those kids that are do go to work don't you don't actually get cited so the public thinks that kids charge that are getting put away but that isn't actually the case there were turning toward communities without the treatment and the services that they need to become productive members of arc is also a big issue as this over incarceration children can you talk about that. you know kids are overheard going to be have kids you know as young as eight and nine in our

not attention it's a little so as we overcrowded those and so it is we increased the criminality of kids a cutting them in a terrible jail so we have continued to increase charging kids and young and in those places at the two credit we have but i'm going to tell her it's and these kids that are being incarcerated add a lot of our being jailed for nonviolent crimes that's right in maryland there are thirty three charges that can get you automatically charged as an adult so no one is your case you are automatically sent to an adult the chechen center some kids wait there for over. two years to have their case hurt and then sixty eight percent of those kids had their cases were turned achieved in our system so they have been incarcerated and are getting any treatment any services anything that they need. productive members. and i return back to the communities and a lot of times when they are retiring they are committing crimes again because

something is going on within the juvenile system where they're not being rehabilitated and. in fact it's quite the opposite. way to go if they are terms that you cannot so they do get the services they need but a lot of kids who are charged adults are just their cases are dismissed and they don't get the services that they need and they return without getting the treatment . put carp now another interesting thing here in the us one of the only a country is to sentence kids to life without parole the international community sees this as cruel and unusual punishment why is it here that we do practice that and it's considered acceptable. i think that we believe they were being tough and we're you know punishing someone for something that they did but we don't realize that they're being automatically charge they're not getting their counsel that they need they're getting to know that and it don't. with a public defender as an older you know what we're going to explode and there is

people that we think that we are putting away and giving them service but they don't realize that and i don't care if they don't get any services they're just sit there and wait. also sarah do you want to touch upon kind of the other side of this argument proponents of you know cracking down hard on children is that how you if you're old enough to do the crime you should be old enough to do the time you know so what let's hear your response to that you know we had done a lot of research shows that kids are in very different than adults very the i don't don't believe or much other twenty as we try and do research to show that kids are different when they're told he shouldn't say that just because a kid with sports team who may have done something should be treated as. an addict and that is why they're considered minors that's why they can drink they can smell and vote because they are children and yet it seems when they commit

a crime all of a sudden they're seen as adults that's exactly right. so carol what is the alternative that looks like there's a lot of layers to this problem even within the juvenile justice system even worse putting kids in an adult system what then is the alternative what needs to change. i think that we need to start treating our kids as kids and we need to start providing them early intervention services then they need to take tests but we can't continue to have a bandaid at the back end of a problem you get pit services in their communities make sure that they are to be the things that they need and not just understand what if something happens we need to make sure that we don't continue to criminalize when they do. come in harms are the criminals are consistent with a need to understand we need to raise are going to get back to that they're going to limit their right kara thank you for very much appreciate you coming on the show

that was kerry and it's only an organizer for the just partnership and automatic prosecution of kids as adults. well it has happened yet again student protesters pepper sprayed by police last night in santa monica california at a college in california about thirty people were hit with pepper spray the group was trying to force their way into a meeting at the college over a tuition increase but a handful of people only a handful of are allowed inside and that's when police pepper spray on the unsuspecting crowd. i. was. now according to the school's spokes person campus police felt the crowd was out of control and that their actions were justified and while the video is shocking take

a look at this photo and this simple girl believed to be four years old have to be treated after the pepper spray got into her eyes and her throat so i can't really see how that can be considered justified the college says it has launched an investigation into the incident and will pay the medical bills of those injured but this is not the first time something like this has happened at a college and college campus in california last november we showed you a veil of a similar incident at a at the university of california davis was. so in five months of five macquarie a campus cops and two california colleges have turned on protesters using pepper spray it's still not clear what type of pepper spray was used at the santa monica incident but the u.c. davis cop was using military great stuff let me say that again military grade pepper spray peaceful protesters.