they are to forget the border between the u.s. and mexico the u.s. is building up its defenses somewhere else these days in cyberspace but that's not stopping people from illegally entering our domain so is it time to up the ante. and relations between the u.s. and pakistan are just shaking their down right just more of the american military isn't making life any easier constantly disregarding pakistan's sovereignty so we'll show you the fine line these two nations are walking. is selected santorum has vowed to prosecute our industry infrequently and forced obscenity but it's porn stars and americans we can't let that happen. and how do you make politics sexy you

make angry a bunch of porn stars and call any adult film industry toxic or i'll tell you what some of these adults entertainers are asking you to do to protest rick santorum and let's just say it's definitely not p.g. thirteen. it's friday april sixth four pm in washington d.c. i'm christine frizz out here watching r t. let's begin with one of those terms that has become a very normal part of conversation here in washington cyber security there are a whole lot of top officials here who say this is where the future of terrorism is bound to take place on the internet and it's becoming clear after the hacking into of several government websites including the f.b.i. the department of homeland security but the government is vulnerable but many government for. current and past are using that reality to try to pass stricter

laws to try to overturn current laws in this country many people hold sacred laws regarding your privacy in an op ed in the new york times this week richard clarke a cyber security advisor to president george w. bush lays out what he sees as some solutions he says under customs authority of the department of homeland security quote inspect what enters and exits the united states in cyberspace customs already looks for online child pornography crossing into our virtual borders and under the intelligence act the president could issue a finding that would authorize agencies to scan internet traffic outside the u.s. and seize that sensitive files stolen from within our borders so a by inspecting that is then surely means that surveilling let's talk about this now is declan mccullagh correspondent for c.n.n. news your reaction to this proposed solution by richard clarke. well we have to just a few paragraphs at the end of the new york times are just cry of how this works

other words we this is not a fully fleshed out proposal was just an idea so i want to know the details before committing to saying this is you know or this might might work a but my reaction if if you really need to press me is that this is a little worrisome when you know the pitch is let's serbia all traffic to find the bad guys right but that's like sticking a microphone in everyone's living room so you can listen to all the conversations and not just re-emerge guys sometimes that's not something we do in the us other countries might so it seems like it could be pretty worrisome if we empower the national security agency the n.s.a. to do this a look at their history back in the one nine hundred sixty s. one nine hundred seventy s. before the church commission and even in the last decade under the bush administration i mean this is not necessarily the agency you want doing this kind of surveillance of americans on the other hand i mean there's a fine line governments do after all have

a responsibility to keep people in their country safe do you think there's a way to honor civil liberties while doing that having internet after all is a place where so much planning does take place. to me and we can put this in perspective i mean compared to other nations the u.s. is not exactly a repressive regime i mean i just was writing this morning about saudi arabia and that is really not up there on the internet freedom of in fact it's way down on the bottom but you have. federal agency officials with intent with gondry problem and also that minimized or downplayed a potential privacy invasion direct the government has a responsibility for the government but you do this within the boundaries of the u.s. constitution the u.s. constitution does not give the government the power to conduct this kind of widespread internet surveillance last i checked a little like the you're from the post behind this idea exactly what section allows

them to do this if they wanted if they want this power and the constitution doesn't allow them to have it may be used by others in the constitution with a list let's have that debate it doesn't the constitution doesn't give the government the power however if you take a look outside of government and some of the developments and some major u.s. corporations are coming up with surveillance technology it turns out is a very big business here in the u.s. that american corporations not only major suppliers of software and hardware use for surveillance in other countries by the way some of those countries are they cater seps the u.s. is also the biggest customer so clearly despite you know some glory lines about how legal it is that surveillance software is everywhere it's being bought and sold in a major way. it is the report that came out last fall into some of the wiki leaks files but because this is also not just u.s. companies it's french companies french parent companies italian companies i mean i

hate to say it but this. just real surveillance complex is a worldwide phenomenon but if you look at what happened this is about a year and a half ago right we found out that china. whether it's the chinese government or not we don't know if this but some folks in china stole some source code from google what is google doing that income was saying hey government help but they tighten security they restricted what employees especially if you are physically present there i mean this is one way to solve the problem i mean this is it won't it won't do everything but if you are working on sensitive project maybe you know you can't do that from home you actually have to be there on campus and so there are other ways to solve this on this not sure we could turn to a bunch of bureaucrats in washington for solutions the private sector develop the internet and they can probably fix that yeah it's a good point that you bring up china certainly that's sort of the focal argument that richard clarke makes in his op ed he says that by failing to act washington is

essentially fulfilling china's research requirements while simultaneously helping to put americans out of work what he thinking. well it's it's good rhetoric it's i mean he's a smart guy i interviewed him about and this is a this was about a decade ago was the first time i interviewed him and he is i mean we see similar time thinking about this i just disagree with some of his conclusions and because he's also has a habit of exaggerating the threat he did back decades ago when he was exaggerating . voting problems in china and some werman virus threats and so and look if you if you were a government official and your budget is tied to how big the problem is you want to see the problems really goes not just cyber security it's pretty much every aspect of the homeland security apparatus but i mean we we still sort of filter for the

highest so when we're talking about these things especially when we're talking about the possibility of the national security agency getting more power to conduct surveillance of americans and certainly we shouldn't say that everyone's in favor of this i know there are some lawmakers here in washington that are working to crack down on some of this there is a bill called the global on line freedom act in which news or new jersey congressman chris smith i guess the bill already passed subcommittee but it would require the state department to basically come up with a list of internet restricting countries and to make sure that american made censorship and surveillance technology would not be exploited to these countries that also focuses on corporate transparency. what do you think though that the chances are that this bill becoming law. most bills don't get it did into law i mean this is an election year this is probably not the most controversial bill out there i mean who's really in favor of internet research and

company countries but on the other hand. there are some problems with that i was talking with the electronic frontier foundation a civil liberties and geo group out here in san francisco last night and they don't like it because they don't think it can be effective and so even folks who might think we're going to be enthusiastic aren't so i suspect this is not going to be an ak and this year but this idea keeps popping up it's not for now for a few years so it's more like a week until next year after the election and then you'll see some more movement on this just real briefly back and we just have about thirty seconds left earlier this week we spoke about a lot of concerns i people who live in great britain about very new proposed law that would have allowed their agencies to monitor e-mails and text do you think there are any countries in the world where people don't have privacy concerns. and it's a pretty short list i mean in the u.k. it is the birthplace of what we consider to be modern government and civil liberties in the i'm going to sign on this pretty quickly it's

a shame to see what's happening there or it's just a question of degree i mean no country is perfect and some countries are much worse than others the us sort of progress progress is still pretty pretty decent but we have a long way to fall all right that on the whole a correspondent for the net is in san francisco thanks so much. well the relationship between u.s. and pakistan has been on shaky ground the last year or so and was part of that of course stems from the u.s. led mission to kill osama bin laden who had been living peacefully in a bot about pakistan for years the u.s. neither know to find pakistani leaders or ask for their help which they say both angered and confused them things were made it much worse six months later after that it was after that one american led air strikes in pakistan killed twenty four pakistani soldiers along the pakistan afghanistan border in response supply routes into afghanistan were closed off to nato troops last month president obama met with pakistani prime minister yousaf raza guilt golani in south korea to try to improve

relations but now the u.s. has put a ten million dollar bounty on one of pakistan's most outspoken anti american leaders is even hof is hafez mohammed saeed he's the founder of the militant group l e t believed to be behind the attacks on mumbai india in two thousand and eight that killed a hundred sixty six people including six americans so how does this impact the reset in relations well scott horton is a contributing editor for harper's magazine and he's on with us to talk more about this but let's talk first about this most recent event the bounty payments by u.s. leaders there is a line of thinking that this is intended simply to pressure pakistan's military which many believe is the force behind l e t how effective has this been. well i mean there's absolutely no that that's what's going on. of course he's been head of russia. has been very clearly by

a track. you know is is control role and it is also become clear as a result of testimony and proceeding legal proceeding the united states u.s. could have without this bounty payment a year ago two years ago now as a leverage move in the course of u.s. markets pending discussion what does affect no course not. you know he had other pakistani leaders last. summer a press conference and spoke to the media yeah he's been doing it seems to me he's been doing quite a few press conferences and public speeches he's been appearing on talk shows he doesn't seem to be operating like i want to. know all the you know he knows you know the competence of senior figures in the darkest i mean military but just

confidence in him they've been able to funding and training him and his group so you know you might use them as mr mentality but pakistani government so the idea the caucus plan is going to turn it over to the united states that's likely to happen well they've asked pakistani government has asked the u.s. for evidence which they say bring the evidence. you know present that to their area and give them a trial why don't the u.s. do that. because the u.s. doesn't want to surrender control over the proceedings for the pakistanis i think the u.s. knows that when you go anywhere and by the way the pakistanis have done the same thing and they launched the legal proceedings and their orders bringing charges against leading american political figures including the director of the cia. over drone strikes so i think we see a lot of these games going on in courts and the pakistanis frankly don't believe that the american judicial process is independent or that it has integrity and

that's certainly what the americans think about the pakistani system yet there does seem to be a little bit of a trust issue between the two countries but let's break this down this reset process what does each country have to gain by making improved relations a priority for the united states i think there are a whole series of concerns so one is nuclear proliferation in pakistan is a nuclear powered fact that quite some accounts of the most quickly growing nuclear power in the world another is counterterrorism measures pakistan is really ground central or islamised extremism but probably the most pressing issue right now is afghanistan because the u.s. is looking to implement the twenty fourteen that brought down and a change of its position in afghanistan and that really cannot be done without the cooperation and support of pakistan but you're really going to aberrate now that from day pakistani perspective there's one overriding concern pakistan as

a nation is bankrupt i mean i mean that in terms of money there is not enough funds and the coffers of pakistan to keep the government running and it has run in the past on the basis of goals from international financial institutions but largely from the united states to no one else making money so it really adds an outstretched hand i'm wondering to what extent i mean how how fine is this line i mean certainly we know that the drone strikes are very common in pakistan i mean what happens if pakistan shoots down the drug that it nuclear war ensues. well i wouldn't say will be nuclear war and i would say pakistan is really sort of jannah space issues so that it's very clear that there are certain strikes soundings approve of and others they disapprove of and it's a question of which group is being struck they don't mind striking outcries the spec terrorist groups in the hamper with others but they're very protective of

groups like like l e t so there is a little bit of room for negotiation you know when they come to some sort of military. confrontation with the u.s. and pakistan become very very close to that several times in the course of the last year but i'd still say that's relatively. you know what's much more likely is the pakistanis taking the american contractors mythologists personnel out of their country. and actually taking steps to stop the drone wars which they haven't really done so far and there's a lot of rhetoric but not much real action but should they kick the u.s. and nato forces that are stationed in that condition they kick them out i mean can that be very crippling for the u.s. because twenty fourteen is still another two years away i mean they need that. area to operate right yes i mean especially for logistic i mean the two concerns one is that the staging area for the taliban really is right on the front here in

a lot of the parts from the soil so it's right it's a part of the theater but the other major concern is logistics eighty percent of the surprise well from pakistan i think what we're seeing right now is a major change back for already that is all this material that. is now coming from the north that's coming through becca's through russia through the caribbean republic through menaced time to the north and i think that's what that's going to continue so i think the surprise. is coming to an end and instead we're going to see much more material flowing to the north through nations the former city. it's certainly a tightrope walk here between the two countries and you know no matter what kind of compromise or deal they come up with it's certain that the public on in either country probably won't know most of the details of it thank you today scott horton contributing editor for harper's for sharing your insight we. also have on our team

the presidential race is getting a little while race that today all thanks to rick santorum is war on corn coming up next we'll tell you what adult film stars want you to do. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through. who can you trust no one who is here. with noble

mission where we had a state controlled capitalism school session when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question more. all right guys it's friday and it's been another fun filled week in the political realm now despite three primary wins for republican presidential contender mitt romney in d.c. maryland and wisconsin we haven't seen any of his competitors that bow out yet or centrum says this is just too important now among the reasons he is running for president is to make this country better and one of his solutions to do that answered cracking down on pornography he's attacked the obama administration for not only making that up not making that a priority but he says that the current of justice actually favors pornographers over children here he is on c.n.n. when asked about it you draw your conclusion well you're whether the administration has not put a priority my conclusion is they have not put

a priority on on on prosecuting these cases and in doing so they are exposing children to tremendous amount of harm and that to me says that they're putting their foot in the unforeseen of this law and putting children at risk as a result of that. well on his web site rick santorum dot com the g.o.p. presidential hopeful says pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships he says it contributes to massage me and violence against women and is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking. so we should talk about this and dean obeidallah is a comedian in new york city dean i know that one of the tools that you use to make people laugh is of course politics there's a lot to laugh about what you're. i think that rick santorum is just he's gone beyond any stretch of what's normal in politics there's war and pornography is a war that we have to lose i'm going to be honest with you before i came here today

brushed up on the horns and made sure i could speak very intelligently and thoroughly on this issue of let's be honest pornography is protected this freedom of speech i used to be a lawyer before i was a comedian and less a ghost like child pornography or something ridiculously morbid or shameful in terms of court uses mainstream put augury is protected as free speech so it's un-american actually to be against mainstream could all agree it's something you have the right to look at it or not look at its appeal you know being forced to roger that's a different discussion this is just a desperate attempt by rick santorum in the closing last these of a campaign that's you know unfortunate for him as to the end of it it's term that's just one of the little press but yeah it's interesting a lot of times you hear from conservatives during our constitution back and they forget the first amendment is part of that competition absolutely yeah and you know it's not uncommon for politicians on either side you know left and right to make claims that are in no way backed up by the facts but i mean it it's interesting you

know a couple of people in the very business rick santorum wants to eliminate have staged our rebuttal and they made a video challenging this notion that watching porn results in brain changes that have negative consequences they say there's zero evidence to back up that i want to play part of that video for our viewers for now you've probably heard of presidential hopeful rick santorum anti-pornography policies is elected santorum has vowed to prosecute our industry quickly enforced obscenity laws but it's porn stars and americans we can't let that happen picture was out for an artificial pizza delivery boys had nothing to dream about people march sort of getting to freeze before dos or worst of all people using just their imaginations to protest santorum on may first at eight o'clock pm we're staging the world's largest wake up . just open up your favorite the one you downloaded to your hard drive in named old college be proof two thousand from taxes grandma's eightieth birthday party and that lease together we can enfranchise ourselves through the power of incessant

masturbation all right so when cow two thousand and twelve is going to be successful. i want your business this will but it's really entertaining and it's funny and it it's great storm a political comedy point of view because one it makes a really good point subsequently second is entertaining and engaging so that's a. video and silly clips any message to rick santorum might have which might actually be grounded in truth of his idea to protect children watching pornography you know what that's valid that's a valid thing to want to do our society is like the supreme court how does held restrictions on pornographers for children to watch but let's implement them is huge and that is all this is honestly is a republican playbook of appealing to people's values not ago it's not about what he can really do he knows he can't go and put all the let's be honest you cannot just a multi billion dollar industry in america if nothing then there's a way appealing to conserve say look i think there's but you think it's but vote for me that's what it comes down to it's an emotional appeal over logic and you

know we all know what happened the last time rick santorum waged a war against the internet for a very long time patient know when you googled santorum here's what you're not. a very gruesome definition of the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex notice there are ninety four thousand people on facebook who have liked. it and it is and it's still one of the first thing that comes up when you search santorum despite the fact that he's been in the g.o.p. race that he's had a wildly successful run what do you think is behind. i think it's a great deal of people especially in the gay community who run marriage equality who are the most upset with him and i think that's what that term comes from rick santorum is views are really there outside of the mainstream america there's really not even the main should republican party when he's losing now to mitt romney the delegate count is two and a half times for mitt romney rick santorum has said stuff like our laws in america and the bible must agree those are his words our laws in the bible there are people

who tell again i think the same thing that religious scripture and the law of the state should agree he's been against pornography he's against abortion even the case of rape meaning a woman who is raped has to carry a baby to term is rick santorum is a guy who was great at getting press by saying these things that we view as ridiculous i think he believes that that's what's more concerning and thankfully honestly he's being rejected by his own party there's no place for these views from the one thousand nine hundred eighty nine hundred fifty s. in two thousand and twelve america. now i'm wondering dean are just out of my own curiosity and have that been in terms of your career as a comedian who hasn't been a good one in terms of the stuff that comes out of some of these politicians now. a little bit i mean the problem is george bush kerry you know kissed the huge shadow he was amazing the man he's gas for like the gasometer every day for making up words like mr underestimate the same thing al qaeda he was he killed by either turning it into him to a mexican restaurant you know sarah palin had

a lot of promise as a comedian that my heart hope mccain could have launched see sarah palin or at least her run this time obama's gaffe so far a much more substantive i mean the idea last week with the open mike issue reset i have more flexibility in the second term that's not really a gap that's really insight into the candidate with the really thinking. you don't see the same obama as guarded mitt romney is extremely guarded risk averse candidate so i think as a comedian i'm hoping that romney picks if he p. that issues from the hip or biden can speak a lot more because he's got that propensity to be crazy health there so as a comedian you know i have to be the highlights coming r.t.t. thing. goes. if those guys are given more material and i can come on here and be funny and talk about what they're what they're saying and we all have a lot of fun at their expense it's such an american tradition absolutely you're funny anyways yeah it's true by biting her captors now sally we do appreciate you coming under wraps appreciate you coming on the show comedian dean obeidallah in

new york. yes well the capital account is up next on our team so let's check in with more enlisted to see what is on the agenda today all right lauren what do you got on this a lovely friday on this lovely friday christine we're going to talk about manipulation because what could be more interesting to talk about on a day that the markets are closed so we had u.s. jobs numbers that came out and payrolls were actually a lot less than expected so this is driving everybody to talk about more federal reserve action more q. we now we spend a lot of time on the show talking about the currency add the ponzi scheme that creates and fractional reserve lending today we're going to talk about the ponzi scheme in the gold markets and this is something that our viewers have been asking for will have mike maloney a very popular guest ought to talk about it christine just more evidence if you watch the capital account you want a whole lot of words that you never knew before thanks so much to hurt him and for

us here that's going to do it but for more on the stories we covered how do you two got com slash r.t. america or circut our web site r t dot com slash usa and you can follow me on twitter at christine for zero. mushers the same i've been a huge musician find in the market folly in the man in the wake of the recent

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