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free. free. free. free volunteer video for your media. free media guard t.v. dot com. all republicans don't usually receive such a warm welcome when they visit the notorious liberal university of california at berkeley but ron paul is not your average republican i'll tell you why young voters are standing behind their seventy six year old candidate. and forget the border between the u.s. and mexico the u.s. is building up its defenses somewhere else these days in cyberspace but that's not stopping people from illegally entering our domain so is it time to up to up the ante. and relations between the u.s. and pakistan are just shaky they're downright business and the american military
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isn't making life easier constantly disregarding sovereignty we'll show you the fine line these two nations are wrong. it's friday april sixth five pm in washington d.c. and christine for us out there watching our team so let's start off this hour with a look at the g.o.p. primary it's been a fun week you know primaries in wisconsin maryland and here in d.c. on tuesday and mitt romney won all three but despite all this talk of the presumed nominee which by the way has been going on since the beginning of this campaign there's another candidate that still draws quite a following were ever he goes here is ron paul at the university of california at berkeley. a thousand students came to hear dr paul speech yesterday to show their support and
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for that man it's a sight many people might find surprising ron paul is a republican and berkeley is known throughout history and today as a domain of liberal ideas of hippies and the most left wing people in the country and not always people to be pretty happy to be seeing ron paul. so casey given is the founder of students for liberty at u.c. berkeley and joins us from berkeley california hey there casey what's going on here yours is the university ronald reagan called a haven for congress sympathizers protesters and sex deviants and yet republican ron paul gets rock star treatment. i think certainly changed the over the years i've seen. more open to different ideas. and i think. by the rock star about them. hopefully. i covered he was just here university of maryland last week and there
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were about seven hundred students who came out to see and i think a bunch of them were actually turned away so it is really interesting to see so many young people really rally behind him let me ask you i mean you started this group at u.c. berkeley what is the one thing that you and your fellow students you know c.n.n. or i'm sure there's more than one thing but what are some of the things that really stand out. yes absolutely i just did in my introduction the introductory speech you had last time but i did. hold on kind of the future while i'm well received among the youth is that especially in our age of the internet young people are starting to realize it will teach your politics that no matter who we elect the republicans or democrats bush or obama we're still the with the same policies of war war more bailouts and more intrusions on our social liberty and i think done a lot of young people are talking to ron paul because he's one of the few public
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figures who have actually consistently how i'm a strong strong record and strong propre. history in congress still just like somebody students are attracted to ron paul yeah you mention his anti-war message and i think for me that's something that that's very simple if you take a look back throughout history at berkeley with of course a place where in some ways the antiwar movement began there are countless examples of some of the largest marches back in the sixty's and seventy's taking place on and around campus u.c. berkeley people. you know i think there's a large contingency in the group the community of people who are stonily antiwar stance for the anti interventionism so for me that seems you know kind of normal that there was such a large population at the school is that one of the things that seems to resonate. absolutely and right before the speech i actually got to talk to ron paul a bit about this and i asked him does he kind of tailor his speeches or to the
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certain audience and he says now he kind of gets the same message but especially being apparently that's what he was going to emphasize more is his answer. worst than pro-social the drug war so i think that's definitely what resonates the most students especially. i do have to say that a lot of people who saw this they're quick to say well if this is all about ron paul's policy on legalizing marijuana and drugs i mean it's not must be just a bunch of pot heads rallying around their hero the one candidate who you know championed their cause but it doesn't look to me like more than just a bunch of stoners at this rally i mean is that i'll be honest is that one of the main focus is for some of the ron paul supporters that u.c. berkeley. i would. love to back to but i just i think. representative oh definitely focused more on social issues it was by no means a cop out or he was not trying to. appeal to the pa he talked about some tough
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economic issues like i'm talking about the federal reserve etc so what's the problem and equally so i would not say it was any you know trying to tailor to the audience exactly he was just just the same consistent message appropriate enough to do the job no matter whether he was talking about civil liberty and social liberties or economic liberty now you said just a little bit ago that the berkeley of the sixty's and seventy's has changed a little bit today what do you think it is that that's fostered that change. well i think berkeley you know over the past few decades has become much more of the research oriented on school so it's i mean it's a very it's a top quality. university it's number one of the university and the nation and so i think that i kind of has attracted a new type of student body where it's not just you know the activist u.c.
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berkeley's though this is the place where i can talk about liberal politics but is there more attractive to the academics which i think has created more of a diverse student body where ideas like libertarianism are more welcome when you started the students for ron paul a sense for liberty liberty excuse me. what was the reaction of a lot of people i mean are there still some people who think this is a a little strange. you know and there's nothing addressed in my speech i actually when i started this of three years ago i thought of what was going to be social suicide you know starting a libertarian club in the people's republic of berkeley but on the contrary the student body against is just incredibly welcoming and i attribute why i attribute a lot of that message because so many young people are learning about him and the audience represents through the internet you tube and cetera these ideas of limited
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government remarket sound money are not interventionism are not as radical they might have seen of you a few decades ago especially considering the political trouble our country has gone through certainly you can argue with some of his messages but you can't argue that his are different from his opponent take a given founder of students for liberty at u.c. berkeley appreciate you being on with us today thank you very much. all right let's go now to one of those terms that's become a very normal part of conversation here in washington cyber security there are many top officials here who say this is where the future of terrorism is bound to take place on the internet and it's become clear after the hacking into several government websites including the f.b.i. the department of homeland security of the government is vulnerable and many government officials current and past are using that reality to try to pass stricter laws to try to overturn some current laws in this country that a lot of you might hold sacred also regarding your privacy in an op ed in the new
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york times this week richard clarke a cyber security advisor to president george w. bush lays out what he sees as illusions he says under customs authority the department of homeland security could inspect what enters and exits the united states in spite of cyberspace customs already looks online for child pornography crossing our virtual borders and under the intelligence act that president could issue a finding that would authorize agencies to scan internet traffic outside the united states and seize sensitive files stolen from within our borders so we talked about inspecting that essentially in my mind means surveilling earlier i spoke with declan mccullagh a correspondent for c net news and got his reaction to this proposed solution take a look at where we have just a few paragraphs of the end of the new york times are describing how this works other words we this is not a fully fleshed out proposal this is just my view so i want to know details before committing to saying this is you know or this might might work but my quick
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reaction of if you really need to press me is that this is a little worrisome. you know the speech is what's sort of drill traffic to find the bad guys right but that's what's taking the microphone everyone's living room so you can listen to all the conversations and what has really been heard guys and that's was not something we do in the. u.s. other countries might so it seems like it could be pretty worrisome if we empower the national security agency the n.s.a. to do this so look at their history back in the one nine hundred sixty s. nine hundred seventy s. before the church commission and even in the last decade under the bush administration i mean this is not necessarily the agency you want doing this kind of surveillance of americans on the other hand when i mean there's a fine line governments do after all have a responsibility to keep people in their country safe do you think there's a way to honor civil liberties while doing that i mean the internet after all is
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a place where so much planning does take place here we didn't we should put this in perspective i mean compared to other nations or the u.s. is not exactly a repressive regime i mean i just was writing this morning about saudi arabia and that is really not up there on the internet freedom list because we don't know the bottom but you know federal agency officials within said it was going to report problems and also. were downplayed a potential privacy invasion is your right to the government has a responsibility for the government but you do this within the boundaries of the u.s. constitution he was constitution does not give the government the power to conduct this kind of widespread internet surveillance last i checked at least like to hear from the. exactly what section allows them to do this if they want to if they want this power and the constitution doesn't allow them to have it maybe use time to change the constitution but at least let's have that debate it doesn't the
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constitution doesn't give the government the power however if you take a look outside of government and some of the developments that's a major u.s. corporations are coming up with surveillance technology it turns out is a very big business here in the u.s. that american corporations not only major suppliers of software and hardware used for surveillance in other countries by the way some of those countries are that's the u.s. is also. the biggest customers so clearly despite you know some glory lines about how little it is surveillance software is everywhere it's plain bought and sold in a major way. it is the no report that came out last fall in some of the wiki leaks files buttress this is also not just us companies from this french company's french parent companies. talian companies i mean i hate to say it but this. industrial surveillance complex is a worldwide phenomenon but if you look at what happened this is about the year and
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a half ago right we found out that china. whether it's the chinese government or not we don't know we suspect but some folks in china stole some source code from google what did google do we didn't come while saying hey government help they tighten security they restricted what employees could access especially if you're out physically present there i mean this is this is a one way to solve the problem i mean this isn't it won't it won't do everything but if you are working on sensitive projects and you know you can't go from home you actually have to be there on campus and so there are other ways to solve this and this not sure if we should turn to a bunch of bureaucrats in washington for solutions the private sector developing internet they can probably fix or yeah it's a good point that you bring up china certainly that's sort of the focal argument at it that richard clarke makes in his op ed he says that by failing to act washington is essentially fulfilling that china's research requirements while simultaneously
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helping to put americans out of work what are you thinking it's not us well it's it's good rhetoric it's i mean he's a smart guy i interviewed him about this is what this was about a decade ago was the first time i interviewed him and he is i mean he spent a lot of time thinking about this i just disagree with some of his conclusions and he's also has a habit of reading the thread. back. a decade ago he was exaggerating. voting problems in china and some werman virus threats and so you know if you if you were a government official and your budget is tied to how big the problem is you want to see the problems really goes not just cyber security it's pretty much every aspect of the homeland security apparatus but i mean we still sort of filter for bias so when we're talking about these things especially when we're talking about the possibility of the national security agency getting more power to conduct
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surveillance of americans and certainly we shouldn't say that everyone's in favor of this i know there are some lawmakers here in washington that are working to crack down on some of this there is a bill called the global online of freedom act in which news or new jersey congressman chris smith i guess the bill already passed subcommittee but it would require the state department to basically come up with a list of internet restricting countries and to make sure that american made censorship and surveillance technology would not be exploited to these countries that also focuses on corporate transparency. what do you think though that the chances are of this bill becoming law. most bills don't get into law i mean this is an election year this is probably not the most controversial bill out there i mean who's really in favor of internet refracting company countries but on the other hand. there are some problems with that i was talking with the electronic frontier foundation a civil liberties and geo group out here in san francisco last night and they don't
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like it because they don't think it can be effective and so even those who might think we're going to be an ethics aren't so i suspect this is not going to be an actor this year but this idea of popping up that's good for the now for a few years so it's more like wait until next year after the election and then you'll see some more movement on this and israel briefly that going to have about thirty seconds left earlier this week we spoke about a lot of concerns by people who live in great britain about their new proposed law that would have allow their agencies to monitor e-mails and text do you think there are any countries in the world where people don't have privacy concerns. it's a pretty short list i mean the u.k. is the birthplace of what we believe modern governments and civil liberties are going. pretty quickly it's a shame to see what's happening now it's just a question of degree no country is perfect and some countries are much worse than others the us sort of progress is still pretty pretty decent but we have
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a long way before all right declan mccullagh a correspondent for c.n.n. news in san francisco thanks so much all the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan has been on shaky ground the last yourself a large part of that stems from the u.s. led mission to kill osama bin laden who had been living peacefully in a lot about pakistan for years the u.s. neither notified pakistani leaders or asked for help which they say both both angered and confused that things were made much more six months later when american led air strikes in pakistan killed twenty four pakistani soldiers along the pakistan afghanistan border in response supply routes into afghanistan were closed on to nato troops well last month president obama met with pakistani prime minister yousaf raza gillani in felt career to try to improve relations but now the u.s. has put a ten million dollars bounty one of pakistan's most outspoken anti american leaders hafez mohammed saeed on the founder of
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a militant group is believed to be behind the attacks on mumbai india back in two thousand and eight that killed one hundred sixty six people including six americans so how does this impact the reset in relations between the u.s. and pakistan earlier i spoke to scott horton a contributing editor for her prison augustine he spoke more about this. well i mean there's absolutely no that that's what's going on i say the horse he's the head and must. pay you back has been very clearly to them by the time the you know is it is control and it is also become clear even as a result of testimony in the proceedings legal proceedings and united states so the u.s. could have put out this bounty payment a year ago two years ago. now has a leverage move in the course of u.s.
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hispanic discussions and was affected no course not exactly you know he and other custodian leaders laughed at it awfully say something a press conference and spoke to the media he's been doing things to me he's been doing quite a few press conferences in public speeches he's been appearing on talk shows how he doesn't seem to be operating like i wanted van nuys all and you know he knows that you know he has the confidence of senior figures in the darkest money military but just confidence in him they've been broken funding and training him and then has grown so you know you might you wouldn't his mentor mentality to study government in fact so the idea that i could stand is going to turn it over to the united states that's not going to happen well they've asked to pakistani government has asked the u.s. for evidence which they say if i bring the evidence that al then you know present that to their to get this area and given the trial why doesn't the us see that
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happen but there's the u.s. doesn't want to surrender control over the proceedings for the pakistanis i think the u.s. knows that that can go anywhere and by the way but the saudis have done the same thing i mean they they've launched a legal proceedings in airports bringing charges against leading american political figures including the director of the cia is. over drone strikes so i think we see a lot of these games going morning courts and the pakistanis frankly don't believe that the american judicial process is independent or that s integrity and that certainly what the americans think about the pakistani system yeah there does seem to be a little bit of a trust issue between the two countries to let's break this down at this reset process what does each country have to gain at by making improved relations a priority for the united states i think the there are a whole series of concerts and so one is nuclear proliferation and is a nuclear powered fact by some accounts of the most quickly growing nuclear power
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in the world and the other is counterterrorism measures pakistan is really ground central for islamist extremism probably the most pressing issue right now is afghanistan because the u.s. is looking to implement a twenty fourteen a grandma down there and they change its position enough and honest and that really cannot be done without the cooperation and support of pakistan but u.s. clearly doesn't have right now and put a pakistani perspective there's one overriding concern because stan as a nation is bankrupt i mean i mean that in terms of money there is not enough funds in the croppers in pakistan because the government running and it has run in the past on the basis of goals for international financial institutions but largely from the united states no one else they can get it money so it really as an outstretched hand i'm wondering to what extent i mean how how fine is this line i
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mean i certainly we know that drone strikes are very common in pakistan i mean at what happens if pakistan you know shoots down the drone to is that it nuclear war ensues. well i wouldn't say would be nuclear war and i would say pakistan is really sort of generous based on the ground issues so that it is very clear that there are certain strikes the pakistanis approve of and others they disapprove of and it's a question of which group is being struck they don't mind striking al qaida the list that terrorist groups may hamper loppers but they're very protective of groups like like l e t so there is a little bit of room for negotiation you know when they come to some sort of military. confrontation between the u.s. and pakistan become very very close to that several times in the course of the last year but i'd still say that's relatively. what's much more likely is the pakistanis taking the american contractors mentality and personnel out of their country. and
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actually taking steps to stop the drone wars which they haven't really done so far and there's a lot of rhetoric but not much real action but should they kick you know the u.s. and nato forces that are stationed in that condition they kick them out i mean wouldn't that be very crippling for the u.s. because twenty fourteen is still another two years away i mean they need that space they need that area to operate right yes i mean especially for logistic the major concern one is that the staging area for the taliban really is right on the frontier and a lot of it on pakistani soil so it's right it's a part of the theater but the other major concern is logistics eighty percent of the surprise used to welcome pockets and i think what we're seeing right now is a major change on that score already that is all this material that pakistan is now coming from the north it's coming through spectroscopic through russia through the carriages republic through menaced on through the north and i think that's what
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that's going to continue so i think the surprise. is coming to an end and instead we're going to see much more material close to the north through nations perform a service. certainly it's height wrote walk here between the two countries and you know no matter what kind of compromise or deal they come up with it's certain that the public on in either country probably won't know most of the details of it thank you today scott horton contributing editor for harper's for sharing your insight. also ahead on our team the presidential race is getting well the racy that's all thanks to rick santorum swore on a court coming up next we'll tell you what adult film stars want you to do and protest. what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who makes decisions to break through it's already been made who can you trust no one who is your view with the global machinery see where we had
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a state controlled capitalism it's called sessions when nobody dares to ask we do our t. question morning. r t is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. i always started off the show with a look at presidential candidate ron paul let's talk now about another g.o.p. candidate rick santorum he's who is still in the race now rick santorum says this is just too important he like everyone else says he's running for president to make
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this country better and one of his solutions to do that is a little different he wants to crack down on pornography he's attacked the obama administration for not only not making out a priority but he says the department of justice favors pornographers over children here he is on c.n.n. when asked about it. you draw your conclusion well you're in whether the administration has not put a priority my conclusion is they have not put a priority on on on prosecuting these cases and in doing so they are exposing children to tremendous amount of harm and that to me says that they're putting. their foot in the unforeseen of this law and putting children at risk as a result of that. on his web site rick santorum dot com the g.o.p. presidential hopeful says pornography is toxic to marriages and relationships he says it contributes to massage me and violence against women and is a contributing factor to prostitution and sex trafficking and to speak more about this i was joined earlier by comedian dean obeidallah here's what he had to say
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about santorum is war on iran. i think that rick santorum is just ease gandhi on any stretch of what's normal in politics there's war in pornography is a war that we have to lose i'm going to be honest with you before i came here today brushed up on the point and made sure i could speak very intelligently and thoroughly on this issue let's be honest pornography is to take this freedom of speech i used to be a lawyer before i was a comedian and less a ghost like child pornography or something ridiculously morbid or shameful is the terms the court uses mainstream put on graffiti is protected as free speech so it's un-american actually to be against means simply don't think it's something you have the right to look at or not look at it's up to you you're not being forced to watch it that's a different discussion this is just a desperate attempt by rick santorum in the closing last days of a campaign that's you know unfortunate for him as to the end of the term that's just one of the little press but yeah it's interesting
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a lot of times you hear from conservatives bring our constitution back and they forget the first amendment is part of that competition absolutely yeah and you know it's not uncommon for politicians on either side you know left and right to make claims that are in no way back up by the facts but i mean it it's interesting that you know a couple of people in the very business rick santorum wants to eliminate have staged a rebuttal and they made a video challenging this notion that watching porn results in brain changes that have negative consequences they say there's zero evidence to back i want to play part of that video for our viewers or. by now you've probably heard of presidential hopeful rick santorum antigun on a few policies if elected santorum has vowed to prosecute our industry infrequently enforced obscenity laws but as porn stars and americans we can't let that happen picture was out for an artificial pizza delivery boys had nothing to dream about sort of getting confirms before those are worst of all people using just their
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imaginations she protests i'm a first at eight o'clock pm restaging the world's largest wake just open up your favorite the one you downloaded to your hard drive and named old college papers to those income taxes grandma's eightieth birthday party and that lease together we can enfranchise ourselves through the power of incessant masturbation all right the way cow twenty's while it is going to be successful. about your business just for what it's really entertaining and it's funny and it's great from a pulled comedy point of view because one it makes a really good point substantively second is entertaining and engaging so that's a because go viral that video and solar eclipse any message that rick santorum might have which might actually be grounded in truth of his idea to protect children watching pornography you know what that's a valid that's a valid thing to want to do in our society it's like the supreme court has upheld restrictions on pornographers for children to watch but what's interesting is you jeanette but all this is is honestly.

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