tv [untitled] April 6, 2012 10:30pm-11:00pm EDT
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you know there's a real headline that none of the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers and for what actually matters for those viewers and so that's why young people just don't watch t.v. anymore if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. . is this state english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.
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our guys it's time for tonight's tool time award answer night the argos republican party for some members rethink contributions to the debate over women's health with republicans in the state the federal level attempting to create hurdles to abortion actress access to contraception polls have shown that women increasingly are throwing their support behind democrats and democrats and granted these restrictive policies as a war on women and it's a term that's put some republicans panties on a little twist take a look. because the way it was had or the way the media covered it it became a war on women which is complete invention why men don't care about contraception they care about jobs and the economy and rights and their families that need it wants to talk about contraception so much progress democrats of course say you're
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waging a g.o.p. he's waging war on women looking you can polls you have a gender gap problem how big your problem is you have it all goes well for one thing you know the democrats said it a war and caterpillar's and every mainstream media outlet talk about the fact that republicans have a war in caterpillar's then we have problems with caterpillar's them in the fact of the matter is it's a fiction. we're in caterpillar's now some democrats have blasted priebus saying that he was comparing women to caterpillars i don't think so i think that's a silly obviously a very was trying to say is the war on women is something that he considers fictional like a war on caterpillars and it's also a mass manipulation being carried out on the part of the media obviously and so once again the republicans are just innocent victims turns out they're not the i've called the string of policies being proposed by republicans in the capitol and state houses across the country a war on women i will call that again after all wasn't too long ago the house republicans had an all male hearing on contraception yesterday was guns and
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governor scott walker signed g.o.p. bills are in abortion coverage through health insurance exchanges and requiring doctors to consult privately with women seeking abortions and today mississippi governor phil bryant received a bill that would close the sole remaining abortion clinic in the entire state and he intends on signing it that's all in just one week and let's not forget the bombing of a planned parenthood in wisconsin earlier this week and that is straight up domestic terrorism and you know it but you'll never say it but taking exception to the so-called war on women that's not why these republicans are being such abject tools tonight it's the fact that they're busy whining about what they want to call a fake political war and these guys are the masters of creating actual fake political wars for sickle and this started as a war against the vatican that this president pursued when will it come to be a just personnel and personal home situation courtney love the light at my house i'm just wondering if you're not going to do if he's mean to the little drummer boy
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by your. name again if we do. and problems are and his mom. and i are. and we are headed down that on. i mean come on guys make one thing very clear there is no war on religion let alone a war on christmas going on if anything it's some of the religious politicians that are trying to impose their morals on the rest of us despite the fact that one of the founding ideals of this country is the freedom of religion meaning you can believe anything you want and the government should never write to intervene now what you want to say about it that's your choice you do after all have free speech so while you're more than welcome to freak out about policies that ensure that women are allowed to seek out their health care they need and you're welcome to freak out about an imaginary secret police force intent on taking your baby jesus
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out of the manger and down sort of bush including you should also expect to be called out on it when you moan about make up wars when you're for star generals of the practice and so for that g.o.p. when tonight's full time award congratulations. now if you run a business or even a government make sense to be as prepared as you possibly can be for any scenario he's in trends and analysis to try and predict future problems there's an entire industry out there that works with governments and businesses to jude to do just that so called strategic intelligence one former analyst after fifteen years is quitting the business and he's decided to speak out our guest tonight says an industry that once told hard truths to corporate and government clients now little sleep just tells them what they want to hear that makes it harder for all of us to adapt to a changing world so let's find out more joining me to discuss this is eric garland the surest and strategic analyst and the author of future aid how businesses anticipate and profit from what's next as well as satire of the foresight industry
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called how to predict the future and when eric thanks so much for joining us tonight and so you wrote about this wrote a whole piece said this is why i'm quitting the intelligence industry but you know say it again in your words for our viewers tonight. well i've been doing this job for fifteen years working with your school three sheets. governments writing books and traveling around and and it's been a good time but it's the end of the road because you know i'm just kind of tired of the fake conversations about things i'll tell you i was in washington d.c. i'm in st louis right now but i was in washington d.c. on when when the economy melted down in two thousand and eight and i was privy to a lot of the conversations my office was two blocks from from the treasury and whatnot and when people were telling me that oh we were just briefed members a calmer congress we're just briefed that we could have the army in the streets in a few days because the economy is going to melt down so badly. that we have to turn all this power over to the banks we have to give them blank checks and if we don't
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you'll be fighting in the street for old sandwiches and that was such a bad outcome and especially since i predicted it one of the months and i don't want a i don't want to meddle going forth for that i'm not famous for that there are plenty of people who saw this coming because you know you had kids who had never had jobs getting three hundred thirty thousand dollars loan for houses and you know entire buildings filled so the people doing fraud you know to fill up the mark mortgage markets in the c.d.'s in the c.d.'s and all that if you looked at it all you knew that something bad was coming down the pike but we had this horrible catastrophe that from what they told us was going to result in people fighting in the streets for food and massive steria and i thought great after two thousand and eight ok we saw this coming and it happened and it's bad but now people are going to be more sensitive to the future and they're going to be sensitive to disruption and things you know and looking ahead and making sure that we see things that we don't want to see and thinking the unthinkable but in fact the opposite happened and what has
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happened is the culture has gone far more back to the next five minutes thinking even than it was before and a lot of it is because i can talk about all the way i want to live our life that i because i have natural thing i think i mean what about this new thing like i have a microphone africa after we thought screwed you know intelligent thirteen pick analysts i don't know where. talking about it and you know maybe part of it was that not enough people were talking about it i think that there were some people that have been predicting it but. doesn't see us sooner i would assume probably but nobody would really trust this industry anymore and yet it's still going on and i want to know why it is that it's still happening in the same way or like you said. there is even more lying going on well there's always been two kinds of analysts there's always been people that you know are principled thinkers who are going to tell you what they see and they're going to say things that are not convenient to the people who have just put their career on the line say we paid boss we need to invest in this we need to go in this direction and then the intelligence tells them
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you know well actually that's not going to work out you know there's people that's going to make somebody upset i've been in that situation you know endless times where people have asked me for a market assessment and you come up with something that they they're not happy with and sometimes they go oh sometimes they really want to know before they put down a billion dollars on something and sometimes you know they get very upset with you that you just embarrass them and don't want to pay you after things like that i mean that's always been the case so you have analysts that are willing to do that and analysts that are willing to say whatever is politically expedient now my my belief was that after two thousand and eight the consequences were so dire that you know we were going to turn more towards people that were willing to say things that were comfortable because everyone was comfortable pretending that their condo was worth three times what it had been five years before everyone was comfortable with that everyone you know it was on the cover of time and there's you know home and garden television has you know bathroom freakout you know television programs and you know closet masters and thanks to everyone like that and just say this is all
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fake and it's going to blow up made people upset but you know my thought was the people that are willing to rock the boat we're going to get a say and i'm reading right so let's let's break down some of the reasons why you think they have it you give three trends out there the you think are making farsight more difficult and so you know run through them. sure the there's three big things that are really making things harder in organizations for people to look down the road towards a future one we've had a massive influx of capital from wall street that have allowed these corporations to get so big that instead of having fifteen or twenty players in an industry you have like four or five i'll give you an example when the eighteen t. and t. mobile merger didn't go through i saw an analyst online go hey this will be great for rising and i was like wow that's what an alice is now is it's like it's going to be the one guy or the other guy so you know you don't have competitive markets
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you don't have free markets like you did before that you can look at as an analyst and try and you know see how the world might unfold now when you get giant corporations you get sort of your second trend which is you get gigantic bureaucracies forty sixty one hundred one hundred twenty thousand people well when you have companies that are that big they get too big to fail people won't let them fail governments won't let them and fail but you've got you know this top down culture where success is not because of one person's you know gehring decision to to think differently or to you know as much as we rattle on about strategy and innovation you know that you're both hold on to a whole culture of bosses and you know it is better to fail conventionally in a way that doesn't scare people and then it is to actually think differently or try something new or solve a real problem and the third you know the third trend is that you've got more government policymakers deciding what markets are going to look like then ever
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before so you've got too big to fail banks that get coverage on not being prosecuted for laws they break or excuse me you know you know five hundred million dollars settlement or something like that. and you've got cases like with the tarp you find out that some of the tarp money that was supposed to be held this is for banks so your pension fund doesn't go out but some of the cash went of arisan in general. electric to back up you know some of the losses they had taken some of their operations wouldn't be disturbed hey my business got disturbed after two thousand and eight i didn't get checks from anybody i didn't get even you know a sorry you know you're not going to be bringing as much money home to your family i didn't get that the corner grocery store didn't get that but some players do so when you get those three things and you just have this you know a few huge players in every industry to pretend like this the the industry of looking at the future is like it was when i got into the business in the mid ninety's you know like the way that it may be are going to be good for joining us
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and i but i guess that's how is that a thing is that i don't don't trust people. i got out of favor we can continue at the moment that i think the lifes. our guys are just ahead on the fireside friday and on happy hour i think olbermann takes part in swipes at his former current colleagues and not only their congressional interns work for free but they also can't sue their employers that would come back. story. to understand it and the. other part of it and realize that everything. is a big issue. mr
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. you know there's a real headline with. the problem with the mainstream media today is that they're completely disconnected from the viewers from what actually matters to those viewers and so that's why young people don't watch t.v. anyway if they want news they go online and we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in t.v. .
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is the state. speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. and tonight's. your. other week with yet another development in the obama administration's war on whistleblowers that we keep highlighting these stories for you on the show because now the only does it show the attacks that are happening on free speech on the
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freedom of press the intimidation that it is being applied to those who dare speak out about the dirty secrets of the government would rather no one talk about but it also shows you that they were the obama's justice department's priorities lie what cases they feel are we're dedicating their resources to wall things like white collar crime wall street vocally unpunished so today let me remind you of the case of john kiriakou former cia agent now curiosity became a public face when he sat down for an a.b.c. news interview in two thousand and seven there he spoke out about the cia waterboarding. i see kiriakou would help coordinate captures of i and pakistan but kiriakou didn't condemn the enhanced interrogation techniques i be opposite he said that he thought that waterboarding worked and he said that he was glad that it had been used but he publicly called waterboarding torture he questioned why the cia destroyed interrogation tapes and he wondered aloud why we had to torture to keep america safe he also wrote about that in his book but supposedly this has nothing
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to do with why the government is going after him you see just this week he was indicted by a federal grand jury in virginia on five counts those five counts include violating the intelligence identities protection act making false statements and violating the espionage act so the justice department is going out of pure curiosity for releasing classified information to journalists that included the identities of a covert cia officer and information on the role of another cia employee in classified activities now they won't tell us who the reporter. is that he actually gave this information to the it's widely believed to be new york times reporter scott shane there's a long story there but the man that shane wrote about was not an undercover officer he had never engaged in the waterboarding or other techniques described as torture and if so many others had been named in the campaign against al qaeda at the times put it that would make this case any different chain also had twenty three other
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sources for this article but the justice department is going after here yahoo so you see the warning that the government's trying to give here more intimidation so that fewer sources will be willing to talk to the press about national security matters and the fewer people talk and the less we know unless of course it's a government sanctioned leak by officials and then the same punishment just doesn't apply but there's one more thing they're also going after kiriakou for allegedly turning over pictures in the name of a cia officer of the defense lawyers of a detainee guantanamo bay and just think about it this way justin radek she's a guest on our show and she's also from the government accountability project and she put it this way instead of an investigation into the government's withholding of exculpatory information from good mode detainees lawyers the government investigated how the lawyers obtained the information and instead of investigating the seventy names and twenty five photos of the detainees alleged torturers the government investigated how the prisoners found out that are they perfect picture
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of how our government chooses to apply justice the state's justice for those who tortured you know their identities are not being revealed and yet no justice for those who were tortured secrets kept out of legal documents when it suits the government's interest and an indictment for those who try to make sure that the defense might see those documents and curiosities by the way the sixth person under the obama administration to be indicted under the espionage act so let all this just be a reminder to you of where exactly the priorities of this administration and its justice department believes you. hi guys it's time for happy hour and joining me this evening our team producer jenny churchill and artie's adriaan it was there also thank you for joining me
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tonight. ok so there is more drama in the media world we found out what that was was that last friday that we found out that he called him and the terminator actually it was monday maybe it was monday and already totally losing my mind in terms of billing we've played all week it's been a long week exactly but now we're finding out a little war some of the documents are coming out from the lawsuits and. well basically even really all that kind we're all about finally apparently have made about me which is weird because when jake hosted alderman's show on m.s.n. b.p. and filled in for him he had nothing but great things to say about he. i want to thank you for letting a guest host on the show which has been critical to opening up the conversation in this country in the early bush years when we were in the wilderness overall about a show they could challenge conventional wisdom and take on the powers in washington this is that show and it's been an honor to host the today in the house that obama built i'm jake you are cute will be back tomorrow night. very kind and
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gracious of jay but apparently. and gorman asked about the possibility of hiring over and said he would not believe he did would be a good choice and he said that we had difficulty separating facts from things he wanted to be true and so basically he wanted to decline to be associated with him and that kind of weird because doesn't that sound like keith olbermann describing himself as a little issue like with reality. or is he it's pretty much like he's like the media equivalent of charlie sheen we were talking about this earlier and earlier. she didn't. show up to work people really didn't as well like i don't know if it's really sad to me just being like a former fan of his time but yes i like him in bed patrick they seem like such a nice guy it's just it's really disappointing to hear that someone you really like just don't know why very people over here done some great stuff over the years and
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clearly this is john i mean to me this seems like it was just being more of his norm is legal. he's completely lost touch with reality and he's kind of in that place in the world where you can no longer admit any fault to anything and everything is someone else's fault he has a point a finger at someone and it's absurd because when jank laughed and i said b.c. i was he was basically saying you know at the end of the interview over most likely will be calling you know it's just it's actually dylan i don't know i think the young turks are actually something different to you that you don't see on other cable networks and so if that was what current was trying to do by you know trying to have a whole reinvention it's really sad too because all government's trying to say that doesn't get good ratings but it turns out at the end it was getting better ratings actually given out which the whole thing is just. i do like one thing which is that when it came to the response from occurrence they kind of fired back and say we hope mr olbermann understands that when it comes. the legal process he is actually
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required. ok. let's move on through our next story which is well i guess a lot of kids look for internships and what's the more prestigious internship especially if you want to work in the government than being an intern for a member of congress who is one of them selling it to you. when you're actually working the district office for a few weeks and then work. for a few weeks. it's for. research oh she's so beautiful but twenty first century. well turns out i think there's three lawsuits going on or three separate former interned suits who worked on black swan who worked at harper's bazaar where to parley rose show but unfortunately congressional intern where you don't get paid you work for nothing you actually aren't even allowed to have the option of suing
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but i mean i know that it's not unusual that in turn still get paid and it's really unfortunate because then it totally limits the amount of people they can take advantage of having an intern job like you already have is the argument that you get for college credit so that's like your you know that's pretty much what you're doing it for you i mean i did a few internships like that and i think that there are situations where in turns are taken advantage of us and it's definitely people want to hire an intern because they don't have to pay someone to do a job and i think that's wrong but i think that there are other times and especially in the media business where you would not be given an opportunity to be in a real studio and line of things you learned through an internship any other time it just wouldn't happen so it's tough loss in d.c. it really is all about the networking when it comes down to it i mean i was you know capitol hill in turn and honestly i loved my time there but it wasn't like i was doing much in terms of you know like you don't know where you are but at the
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same time at the same time i got to know so many people that by the end of it they were already asked me what are you going to do after you graduate what do you think i guess one thing is always you have to be in college if you want to be an intern what if you already graduated you're unemployed and the only way to try to get in because people aren't hiring is that you have to force or take an internship i told you hey that happened to me and i had to literally reenroll in college to take up. worse for an intern chandra to get credit and it was awful and there is credence to your argument before that is you don't have the money like if i hadn't had the money to pay for that college class i couldn't see that internship and it really puts people on an equal playing field that's a thing right because as we said so much of it is about networking and connections that you make the wall you are you know while you're there doing the internship and then from there on that will help you get your foot in the doors and maybe what might be a career path and it's you know it's just not available to everybody and let's be honest and with the congressional staffers you could have a sex scandal and become famous you never know you never know that will pay in
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spades obviously. and. how we have time for our last story you guys. i know i was going to talk about monsanto and you know how they try to put out a really friendly front but they're actually trying to sue now in vermont it's lawmakers decide that you have to require all of g.m.o. food to be labeled which you know why is this even issue i just can't things just be labeled in this country i don't want anyone telling me what to eat but i think i should know what i'm eating exactly right so you should know what exactly you know and even if i can't pronounce it i should know that it's big. but i rather think that most greedy and mostly. good ok guys we got a raft of things we're doing it and i think that's it for night's show things are tuning in and they should be going back on monday the reason foundation's and your granddad so is going to be joining us on our monday hangover panel and in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of below the show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of
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