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revolting videos for your media project free video guns are cheap. taking care of business for the brazilian way as president dilma rousseff pays a visit to the u.s. should president obama take taking notes from his latin american counterpart before the two thousand and twelve elections post war. and the line between coffee rights and wrongs might be getting a little blurry to day that's all thanks to a california judge who blocked an attempt to prosecute alleged illegal downloads so is the end of store bought d.v.d.'s and c.d.'s as we know it. and here's a question for you if you knew that the markets were going to collapse in two thousand and eight but you have taken your money out of wall street the answer is probably. but here's
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a new one for you researchers at mit are predicting an armageddon like a global economic collapse one that may be coming sooner than you think. it is monday april ninth five pm in washington d.c. my name is christine and you're watching our t.v. . well today is the first day directors of the world bank begin meeting with candidates to become the next president of the world bank now typically whoever is nominated by the u.s. is then chosen there have been eleven world bank presidents and they've all been americans all things may be changing this year there are three candidates and only one of them is an american a dartmouth college president dr jim yong kim who also co-founded a non-governmental organization that focuses on getting hiv and aids treatments to some of the world's poorest people he was nominated by president obama last month
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now then there's jose ata and tony your company a professor at columbia university but the former finance minister in colombia the dominican republic formally and nominated him for the world bank position and then there's. a finance minister for nigeria she was the managing director out the world bank and chosen should be the bank's first female president now there are quite a few countries who believe the sun should set on having an american always lead the world bank there's been a lot spoken about this especially from leaders of the brics countries brazil russia india china and south america and one of those leaders was in town today the president of brazil dilma rousseff rousseff is in many ways seen as sort of the ambassador of bricks and i want to talk about some of these items and what they could mean for the future with robert naiman policy director for just foreign policy there robert let's start with talking about the brics countries they've said that they hope to speak with a unified voice to back one candidate for the world bank president south africa has
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already said it will be back to candidate from nigeria do you expect the other countries to follow suit and i mean if so what message do you hope there are do you think they are hoping to send. well i don't actually expect other countries to follow suit i think it's a signal that there are already that there are two developing country candidates and although camp was in the end formally nominated by the dominican republic it was brazil that first. who wished forward his candidacy so it would be sort of brazil has been a sort of walker position now to. support the new curia candy and this is a pattern that we see in developing countries these institutions we complain about the united states but then when it comes time to put aside their differences and you know you around a common platform they find that hard to do rather than of the leaders from these
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countries that said you know we want to we want to back a candidate we want to do so as a group and it might not be about backing the candidate we necessarily think is going to read out even being that. well i think partly it is. you know there is a long standing demand not so much the person in the world being not being american but here being or being the process. which they. don't care about the nationality. care about the process that produces the president that it should be open and that it was just a theory and really that the underlying fundamental issue is not only passport the president the world bank with enough is the holding it's the selection process and the selection process and one thing for you for the heads of these two institutions has. caused or process the united states in europe solicitor the
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nationality of the person it's a new position so the nationality of the people making the decision. and the exclusion of other countries from the process it is interesting too especially when you consider that most of those are for a president that also been bankers and the world bank is an institution that really lends money to some of the poor countries what scares robert let's talk about sort of about the current relationship between the u.s. and brazil we have done the research in town today and a lot of people are wondering about this lack of red carpet treatment here no state dinner no big celebration and there hasn't really been a public statement on this but i want to get your take what do you think this is all about well it's been presented as you know this is a business meeting no show media so. i don't know that i would necessarily infer anything. you know brazil in the us a theory
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proper relationship or draw relations that have had for some time it's actually one of the better relationships that the u.s. as and the region certainly combined jelly with important. so you still use the mean economic power in the region other countries in the region well look to brazil to look forward to some extent. there's a land america. and in the world only classes you know they are the business will be order you know who's going to get what contract do fighter jets you know this isn't going to be headline not could you have my me yeah sure that it is interesting when you look at brazil as a country right now i mean the development over the last ten years has been pretty massive crime is way down and the president rousseff has
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a seventy seven percent approval rating hard to imagine that any president could ever get that. in some ways that you know you'd think that president obama maybe would pick her brain would ask for advice on how she's accomplished that major things that i know her predecessor lugar had with the thanks for that in part as well what do you think you know this country stands to benefit or to learn from brazil. well i think the secret of the political success of doma unless not hard to find a majority of resilience think that the government has to where we're from them. in economic terms. the particularly coming out of a period where governments were considered to be tremendously unresponsive to the needs of the majority and economic questions in significant growth and in seeking a job creation there's also been aggressive government social spending through the
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also familiar to any access to education and basic services and maturity of their population the situation a little bit different in the sense that we in fact it's important differ in the sense that you know in much of the world. it is the public services that we take for granted in the united states people who are not yet able to keep for granted and part of the revolution that's in place and much of latin america over the last twenty years is the revolution that took place the natives making the resemble the new deal government becoming accountable to the door to the point we wish so we took it for granted that we have universities we're still educationally have states but that's not true. that's not true in in much of the world it's obscure incentives basic social service not everything's wonderful we have certain basics that many people many parts of or don't have the brazilian government it's like there was a drug administration states in the subsea does that mean deliver for the majority
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population when the strangest part partly medicine or economic just occasionally saw the government turn around you know having said that you know there is an analogy we could have financial crisis the new seats did have the recession and many people ninety eight are asking you know where's the barak obama in two thousand a and we still have you know eight point two percent measure unemployment similar to what it was when president obama came into office we are you know where's the beef in terms of government action to what people back to work so that i think that is you know a relevant question to ask is these two leaders what around there another thing that perhaps brazil might like from the u.s. i haven't heard any talk about this brazil wants to become a permanent member of the u.n. security council the u.s. backed india another great hunchbacked brics country but doesn't seem there doesn't seem to be any talk about them backing brazil in this do you think this is going to
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be up for discussion at all. well i was suspect that then would bring it up and i would suspect that obama would not make it can it he has spoken to the issue. generally knowing the brazilian aspirations it's complicated issues because there are number of claimants personal india. so the africa zero if brazil one hundred to kenya so it's a it's a complicated question in terms of the relationships between the different middle middle income countries but the u.s. broadly has support. brazil taken on a greater role and u.s. pushed for the g. twenty rather than the g. seven to begin come nina for discussion of international financial issues there a lot to do with her moving and accepting of the world are still so i think they u.s. is generally perceived in brazil to be simple some of the somewhat sympathetic enough
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as you student of brazil's aspiration for a global leadership so you know the security council that's a fairly specific implementation right of that and that and that's harder for us to brace because of all the complicated side issues certainly so much i and the world right now and it's hard to find any country that agrees on every matter with us i'll keep our eyes on it robert naiman policy director for just foreign policy. well we want to talk now about the latest case dealing with companies using the internet to make money but then trying to punish those who have figured out a way to get out of paying for it service in this case its service is pornography the case is called hard drive productions inc vs does one ninety here's what happened company hard drive productions spent two months monitoring illegal downloads of their x. ray triple x. rated movie amateur award now then the company took some of those ip addresses
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about ninety of them who allegedly illegally downloaded and they asked the courts to give them the names linked to those numerical internet i.d.'s the judge said no judge howard lloyd said the court realizes that this decision may frustrate plaintiffs and other copyright holders who quite understandably wish to curtail online infringement of their works unfortunately it would appear that the technology that enables copyright infringement has outpaced technology that prevents it so it's an interesting case then it made a lot of people happy so i want to talk more about this with aaron swartz executive director and founder of demand progress california case here erin what do you think i mean a lot of people wondering does this now mean anybody in california can download whatever they want. i don't think it's quite that fraud but what it is is one of a number of cases where companies have been trying to use the law to go on fishing expeditions to take a whole series of ip addresses that they collect in you know somewhat mysterious
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and unknown ways and they say are allegedly infringing copyright and they ask the government now it's the courts to use those ip addresses to get all sorts of private information about people without any real showing of evidence that those people have done anything wrong and what we've seen is a number of chords this being the most prominent example shutting that down and saying no you know the law doesn't work that way and it's great to see courts upholding people's rights like this yeah it's interesting it's almost as if this company and others want to have the same rights as police who gain warrants after collecting evidence and as you say that evidence isn't always there in this case specifically the judge said that he thought the company hard very productions when it was trying to use the courts that it had no intention of actually litigating i instead wanted to pursue an extra judicial business plan in other words they wanted some of these possible infringers to just pay them to settle break down and terms of what hard drive productions was trying to do in the eyes of charged. yeah i mean
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this is something we've seen a whole bunch of companies do which is you know they collect some sketchy evidence that maybe certain people are involved in copyright infringement they use the courts for them get their names and addresses and then they send the legal threats they say look you know we'll see you for millions of dollars of copyright infringement because we have this proof that you're guilty or you can just pay us one hundred dollars and we'll go away and what this is this is just an abuse of the court system i mean everybody is afraid of being at the wrong end of a lawsuit it's terrifying to be pulled into the courts especially if you've never done it before and it's much easier to say ok even if this is totally invalid i'll just pay a hundred dollars to let them go away yeah i think in some cases thing is that in some cases i think a lot of people say well i guess i know that i'm doing something i maybe i'm not supposed to be doing and so i think you're right i think that's one of these larger companies use that as a way to then have those people settle. and especially with pornography companies
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often it's sort of a form of blackmail right it's like you look will tell your family it'll be in the press that you're downloading pornography you know won't that be an embarrassing mark against your name when you do a google search going to be so much easier to settle this out of court and just pass a couple hundred dollars i think it's a good point but even despite the results of this case the ruling in this case there is still a way to prosecute illegal downloading it seems to me based on what the judge said here they just have to do it sort of on an individual basis so that would be certainly a lot more work for some of these companies to take each one to gather the evidence . what do you think is going to come out of this aspect of the case. yeah i mean this is something you know we've said consistently on a lot of other groups of said consistently which is that you know the law is hard justice system was designed to make sure we got the right result not to make it easy to you know drive go bunch of people into jail and so what the judge is saying yes if you want to pursue a case you have to pursue
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a case against each individual person and you have to put together the evidence against each individual person and that is time consuming and expensive but it's also what justice requires that's what due process of the constitution means and now this case in california was seen as a victory for those who believe that the internet should you know be a free and open society. with the stop online piracy act people stood up they took notice and they started speaking out against. as harsh way too stringent rules however aaron this case it is not by any means the end of cases like this talk a little bit about what else is out there right now that people should be wary about. yeah i mean there's enormous number of issues coming up but the biggest one right now and people can find out more demand progress dot org is the cyber security bills that congress is currently considering so these are bills that senators like joe lieberman have cooked up which they say will protect the internet against hackers but they don't actually have anything in there that will make the
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internet more secure instead what they do is they provide new warrantless ways of getting information from telephone companies intimate service providers and passing it to the government without a warrant or any of the sort of legal process that currently exists so this is something really worrying that we're looking closely and i think you and i spoke about this last week and sort of what's going on it's not just in this country but other countries sort of trying to look for ways to deal with the grandiosity i guess you could say of what people are capable of finding and downloading on the internet but we see in the u.k. right now there's a proposed plan that that will most likely pass and that's going to give the sec national security agency their power to basically watch everyone not necessarily get into their e-mail content or their telephone content but they will be able to monitor how often they speak to somebody for how long. talk a little bit about this this trend and why it's still gaining speed in here in the
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u.s. and in the u k. yeah i mean we talked about the bill in britain last week there's also some other laws in canada and across europe there's that in for this treaty and what we're seeing is this push by you know the legacy entertainment industry and other people who don't like file sharing would like things on the internet to try and prop up their business model by changing the law and i think what we need to do is we need to take a step back and say ok why do we have copyright law in the first place it's not so that a handful of people could be extra multimillionaires it's because we want to promote the progress of science and useful arts as our constitution says and when that law was made when the constitution was written it made sense to go after people making copies because they had to have printing presses they were just a handful of them and regulating them was the obvious and reasonable thing to do now that everyone has the equivalent of a printing press in their home or in their pocket i think we need to rethink some of how these laws are written and find a way to compensate artists and promote the progress of the arts without turning
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everyone in the country into a criminal yeah certainly a lot of a lot of different cases to be made here on either side certainly a lot of these record companies these motion picture companies angry because they feel like they've spent the money and they don't think people should get it for free but there's just so much gray area when you talk about the internet even today in two thousand and twelve aaron swartz executive director and founder of demand progress i want to turn to a study now that is both groundbreaking and controversial it was written by some researchers that mit the massachusetts institute of technology and it uses computer models to come up with potential future scenarios so if for example human beings continue to consume resources like oil food fresh water at the same rate or an increased rate that the study outlines how that would impact the population in terms of global wealth famine disease and death and i predict that the breaking point will come in two thousand and thirty now earlier i spoke with radio host alex
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jones about what this study means taking with them. the the club of rome team at mit in one nine hundred seventy published the limits to growth it was given the huge fanfare by life magazine c.b.s. news that by the year two thousand our entire industrial society would collapse and we'd see in the next decade an eighty percent population reduction if you look at the graph they have three different future scenarios that run from sixty five percent population reduction to over ninety percent so it runs from bad to worse and it's the very same group of eugenicist promoting the fact that the big government has to come in and clamp down on resources and basically return us to a feudal state or the earth will basically collapse and then will die but really if you study what the club of rome un and others have promoted more a strong ted turner he's artificially cutting off our resources through artificial
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scarcity and what they've been billing and pushing as austerity to make us poor is a political tool of control what they're not telling us they tried to break the capitalist free market system that's produced more wealth than any other system in history no one denies that now they've got a crony capitalist model goldman sachs and others that finance the club of rome they want to sell us on being their feudal slaves kind of like the hunger games for real and so they're getting us ready for the collapse of the economy and claiming it's our fault when really they're engineering it they are going the club of rome a connected somebody who large oil corporations and they actually have. it to their benefit that people continue to cut back and fink at the end of the world is coming a lot sooner than it is. yeah that's it goldman sachs and others the big six banks have created one point five quadrillion they've gotten our governments to sign on
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to their over a thousand trillion in fake garbage fake paper and now everywhere they're saying greece you've got to raise your taxes cut your benefits to pay your debts and ninety two percent of the greek debt it turns out is other people's debt not the great people same thing in ireland same thing in iceland but they said no same thing in our country interest me all of ours. club of rome actually writes that they want to bring in a political system of feudalism so we're so core underneath feudalism that we can't even. finance our own lives so that we're basically slaves to these elites so they want to post industrial world maurice strong who started all this with the rockefeller foundation has set on record they want to destroy our society make us poor i mean if i go to whole foods in downtown austin they've got magazines everywhere saying it's trendy to be poor it's wonderful they say that depression is good for our carbon footprint to make it smaller it's wonderful that all this is
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happening i mean in the club of rome documents they say then they need to have shock treatment to destroy the economies of third world nations and old world nations to make them adopt population control measures well it's it's a it's not really shocking to me i don't really know much about the club of rome it's not shocking that certain think tanks have things that benefit them and their funders and founders more than others but the fact is when you talk about you know the usage of resources of fresh water of oil these are things that a it's just an essential nothing quezon the more the population grows and the more these things are used i mean are you sort of downplaying the fact that before is in fact a problem. elites since the time of plato two thousand three hundred years ago have said the world's over populated the great philosophers so they need to start killing the poor people cause they were overpopulated and crushing the breast of mother earth was the quote by plato and we heard the same thing two hundred fifty years ago by malthus hitler said the same thing they're telling us fresh water is
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not renewable that's not for fresh water is renewable and in some areas people build in the desert or they run out like phoenix sure they say trees aren't renewable they are a noble well it's now showing is in a most cases not coming from dinosaur you know oil or blood it but is actually being. reduced inside the crust of the mantle of the earth we've got enough coal to run the united states for several thousand years they have clean burning systems and the elites themselves it's a good point you make though they are suppressing the development of clean and free energy systems to keep us on their fossil fuel system when they want to create artificial scarcity and planned obsolescence to enslave us so this is the monopoly in waging war against the free market in creating artificial scarcity through the un budget of twenty one system always an interesting discussion with alex jones in austin texas he is host of the alex jones show. so here is now
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a movie abu jamal has been behind our since the early one nine hundred eighty s. he was convicted of murdering philadelphia police officer daniel faulkner and originally sentenced to death but a few months ago the philadelphia district attorney brought a death sentence his case has become very famous and also has come to symbolize some of the flaws in the court system and we have him self published several books and commentaries including his most well known live from death row well our team got an exclusive interview with movie aboriginal his first t.v. interview since getting off death row our to correspond honest us here check in to conducted that interview which airs tomorrow night she's in our new york studios to give us a little preview i want to start the i gave a brief introduction of who movie adult jamal is but if you could just give us a teeny bit more background for our viewers about his case and also why he's become one of the most well known prisoners in modern day. well christine you know many of
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your model has so many different names to him he's known for so many things some people of course there are those that do see him guilty in this murder but he has countless supporters all over the world not just in the united states but in europe he has a street named after him in france he's an honorary award holding member and citizen in over twenty cities he is he's always been a revolutionary journalist an activist he was a member of the black panther movement in his youth we know that he was monitored by the f.b.i. since the age of fourteen and his case is really one of those debated ones in modern legal history because of so many controversies surrounding some of the details of what actually went down many of whom near supporters say he's an innocent man and that he never killed the police officer in question daniel faulkner but as we know of course back in the ninety's this episode did take place mumia was charged with murdering this police officer and he has been on death row
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for twenty nine years of his life that's more than half of his life spent behind bars waiting to die in jail however as you mention in january this year he was taken off death row and transferred to a general population president he's currently serving a life sentence without parole and this was in fact the first interview since he was taken off death row with news outlet and he spoke with us earlier today and out of there he is not a normal prisoner and this is a man who seems very aware of things going on outside of his prison cell he seemed well read talked just a little bit about your interview. well that's absolutely true christina you know of course new media has a weekly commentary radio publications and addresses that he posts every week sees his written six books those have been translated into nine languages. hundreds of
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thousands of copies of his books published all over the world and. he is a very well educated and well spoken person son we did get an opportunity to touch upon several word of world events taking place around us and we spoke about the u.s. justice system we spoke about the mass incarceration rates in the united states one of the things we also touched upon was the occupy wall street movement because many actually did. endorse this movement and this is what he had to say about it take a listen let's send former viewers that there are some interruptions in the interview because this was a call phone call from a prison so we will hear a little bit of a break in terms of our conversation being listen to take a listen i think you're getting your approach. broader issues better or what you want to live for and working people.
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well certainly a lot of different topics touched upon in that interview and of course we'll be bringing all our details and that interview in more detail and as it's in its entirety to our viewers tomorrow i'm just real briefly looking ahead what does and we hope to focus on now that he's no longer on death row. well you know kristie he's continuing his fight he hopes to be released one day and he was pretty expressive of about this i asked him what his message to his countless supporters would be right now speaking to us and this is what he had to say to listen. to organize organize and i look you all and i thank you for waiting for you know it's right to go for. well chrissy someone new continues to plans to continue fighting for his freedom he is dubbed the voice of the voiceless and our viewers will get a chance to listen to everything he had to say to us tomorrow on r t r and we will look forward to that certainly a good get for an end.
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