way. back. well maybe i would give all speak to r t exclusively about spending more than half his life behind bars for bringing on nothing from just a taurus prisoner and his own words. i know a little bit about. making sure that those folks get put such. promises promises it seems like president obama was full of them as a senator but from guantanamo bay to the wars for the protection of whistleblowers he can't seem to stick to his word will show you how the world war one area

espionage act is being used against truth seekers and stuff spies. and last year it might have been the arab spring but occupy wall street might be the movement to watch in the coming weeks with the other warming up protesters are once again coming out in large numbers will find out what's in store for the so-called ninety nine percent spring. tuesday april tenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. . well the case has become doe and throughout the world and all spent three decades on death row he's now spending like behind bars without the possibility of parole he was accused of shooting a philadelphia police officer back in one thousand nine hundred one but questions

still remain over how evidence in this case was handled and so this day he maintains his innocence and supporters believe he was mistakenly convicted because he was black and he recently lost his latest appeal to the pennsylvania supreme court alerts he got an exclusive interview with head it's his first interview with a television television station since being taken off death row and aren't his honest aasia churkin on how the story. broke once and for. monitoring and recruiting this school and more than half of his voice monitored. controlled watched by the f.b.i. since the age of fourteen revolutionary activists and journalists jamal spent three decades of his life on death row i'd like to tell myself that i've actually spent a lot of time. on the chorus and in other countries you know.

the world because i did so mentally but you know so far. the truth of the matter is i spent most of my living years in my lifetime on death row in january mia had his sentence reduced to life without parole he called in to speak exclusively with archie from prison the feeling of looming exit fusions still hard for him to shield and wait even to this day in my own heart. if back. in one nine hundred eighty one the former black panther was accused of killing a police officer in philadelphia has always maintained his innocence his analysis is a revolutionary announce that this is to him is rotten to its core that it's race is class is sexist evil and that is the head the leader of an imperialist. down the nation of the world is this me and his supporters say that led to his arrest this was a police frame up against

a revolutionary journalist and activist very well known organizer in philadelphia outspoken against police abuse while the u.s. claims to not hold political prisoners media has become one of the most well known in the world an honorary lot of holding citizen in over twenty cities with a street named after him in france. media's books have been translated into nine languages and sold hundreds of thousands of copies his case is one of the most to be needed in modern legal history fifteen of the police officers involved in collecting evidence in money as trial were later charged with corruption and tampering with evidence for a conviction fifteen of the thirty three. were supporters a symbol of a flawed justice system or mia says u.s. prisons are built for the broken and the homeless well mass incarceration in

america has reached unthinkable levels of california oh. where oh so perhaps like a paper for five other countries like it also. says the adoption of laws like the patriot act and the n.d.a. age have given big brother tactics a legitimacy unimaginable when he was still a free man everything to go back to the mighty sixty's and my fifty's and sixty's seventy's. they legalized they realize they legalized the very things that f.b.i. agents and administrators do was criminal back then so where is america headed election season in the united states right now the people trust who would you vote for the body right because most of the people that are out there will be two major political parties and when they saw it all it was a kind of. reasonable. a wish to return

to days of yore the one nine hundred fifty s. or they talk about the perpetuation of the american empire imperialist my god what is there to hope for as their fifteen minute monitors phone calls from jail grab. me as a message for those who believe in him organize organize organize and i love you all and i thank you for fighting for me let's work together for the future can a r g. all the talk more about her interview are the correspondent on a selfie a caricature joins us now live from new york hi ana safiya so talk to us a little bit more about your conversation with the money abu jamal. well as you know anybody who follows many of would your model follows his books who follows his weekly radio commentary usually knows what his sense of i do today is about when it comes to social issues political issues the economy in the united states he talks

about the most important of seeking place in the united states and the world but the reason this interview was interesting to us is because we've got to get to get a sense of the personality and talk about some of some of the more personal issues i've got to ask me where he thinks he would be if he were a free man where he would want to be and in what kind of a vandal for the last thirty years he would like to participate and he told me that he would like to be able to travel across africa that he would like to take his family his wife and his children and his grandchildren even to france to see the street that's named after him and he told us that if he could participate in any one of the events taking place over the last thirty years while he was on death row he would like to have been part of the anti of course the mood movements in south africa as well as what he called any movement for freedom taking place throughout the world now listening here so already there i thought it was interesting the way

laptop his his message to the public was organize organize organize and i know that he is a supporter of the occupy wall street movement but it's a take on that. that's true liz we did get a chance to talk briefly about the occupy wall street movement and he has endorsed it in his work in this interview he told us that he thinks it's a good beginning he said he feels the occupy wall street movement needs to be bigger stronger and even angrier to get a message across to corporate media he said it's a damn good beginning so he hopes the occupy wall street movement will continue now to talk a little bit about the personal feeling that your god from have does it seem like he has any hope i know that he just lost his latest appeal did he seem hopeful for the future and in terms of any alternatives well you know lose he's definitely lost somewhat of a faith in the u.s. justice system which we do talk about in our interview but what's interesting about

who media is even though that he even though he spent as much as three decades on death row and sort of really using that time to soak and blame the rest of the world for this what he did was spend the time to educate himself and work and write books and get to know the world and like he says in the interview to really mentally travel to countries where he can't visit so he has that time for you know significant purposes and learning and so he doesn't really seem to be disappointed he certainly made the best of what he could out of that situation he's found himself in and it spread this reason that he's become somewhat of a symbol around the world but can you talk a little bit more about what he has come to stand for. certainly liz that is one of the reasons he's become so known and loved by countless supporters throughout the world he is in a sense a little bit more known internationally rather than in the united states a lot of the supporters of his that we've spoken to and himself included say that

it's in the west because of the sort of propaganda really against his case he is more known abroad and in the europe so certainly you know this is something that he feels is important for him this message of the also equality of social justice to be passed through and this message brings home to a lot of people because these are issues that a lot of people are dealing there is poverty in this country there's obviously people who've lost their homes and jobs and the fact that he talks that it's important for those people to be able to get back on their feet and fight for their rights that's a popular message with a lot of people here in the u.s. to on a softie i think you very much for keeping us updated on on this story that was our to correspondent on associate church and i and to see the entire interview with we can all just go to our web site it is r t dot com slash usa it's on the top stories on our front page just look for an exclusive bug and it will take you to the full

interview. well a war on whistleblowers in america another government official has allegedly blown the whistle and facing the consequences for doing so it former cia officer by the name of john korea cow was indicted on thursday on charges of leaking secrets to journalists but it's not the first time he's been in hot water for blowing the whistle he's the man that exposed these cia's use of waterboarding on terrorist suspects and there's another case that's not quite making the headlines simple and mends a former f.b.i. language specialist that blew the whistle on security breaches and cover ups within the f.b.i. she says the f.b.i. has attempted to block her from making it public and her book we have that book right here this is the book that's in question it's entitled classified a civil admin story. so is there an effort to silence whistle blowers today for some answers someone who knows

a lot about this subject steven kull an attorney for civil edmonds and author of this book the whistleblower is handbook. welcome to the show and i savvy here thank you so so you are present miss adman's in this case tell us a little bit more about it and how the f.b.i. has responded to her but with our well she was fired years ago and she her case had a lot of notoriety and it was one of the first cases where the bush administration invoked the state secrets privilege which is this doctrine that essentially puts a censorship of their own over everything you want to blow the whistle on but this fight over the exposure of government misconduct goes all the way back to the american revolution and the first amendment and the first amendment the u.s. constitution was enacted to prevent precisely what we're seeing unfolding today people in the government witness the abuses and they have

a right to blow the whistle on it and that's worse a bell admits case i think is going to be critical because we are challenging the legal predicates that they have used to prosecute and suppress whistleblowers throughout this country and we're challenging them now because they're illegal and unconstitutional we're taking your phones now you are saying that this dates back to the first amendment that is freedom of speech though would you say than that that is attack on a whistleblower is that an attack on freedom of speech absolutely it's fundamental to speech and if you go back to what our founding fathers said they said that it's government misconduct that the government wants to suppress the public ever learning about so the heart of the first amendment its essential core was to prove to permit people to expose government abuses but what we see in these censorship cases is that the government is using its power to intimidate to prosecute to

threaten and to stop government employees with information. the waterboarding information a simple admins had about misconduct in the translation services preventing the american people learning about the abuses of their government and that's why we have the first amendment you know it's funny you can read people magazine or watch t.v. that's great it's all protected under the first amendment but the heart of the core of the first amendment is the protection of people who want to expose the misconduct of government now president obama has in the past especially you know when he was campaigning for president has a valid to protect us along in the us and here's what he has said about i think we have that clip here. wrote the brief for the federal. for the federal law the federal reserve board there was lots of make sure

that applied in more situations it went all the way to the supreme court and we won so i know a little bit of discipline and making sure that those folks get protection. ok so president obama there speaking out saying that whistleblowers that would to protect us are blowers yet president obama has been actually the way that it's played out it's been quite aggressive and dealing with whistleblowers much more so than even the bush administration why is that what is behind that we need an adult in the room we need someone to stand up and say ethics in government is important and those in the government who want to suppress dissent have to be pushed back were they have to be fired we have to be aggressive on this or bomber has essentially taken national security and all of the issues and all of the whistleblower concerns and ditched it he's been good and whistle blowing in the private sector he's

actually on the schizo from it on some whistleblower issues he's been good but for national security for people who want to expose violations in the f.b.i. and the cia iraq and afghanistan critical issues he's been terrible but he follows in the footsteps of every other president except the founding fathers who actually defended national security whistleblowers and pushed through the first amendment that's why in this case we're not sitting back and saying you know prosecute me destroyed me we're getting aggressive we're demanding that the f.b.i. hear the first amendment and that rules and regulations that are in violation of that fundamental principle of human rights be voided now we have your block here the whistleblowers hand but a step by step guide to doing what's right and protecting yourself. what is your number one piece of advice to whistleblowers it and number one believe it or not as far will the money follow the money most of corruption is financially induced there

are defense contracts there are jobs people are trying to protect here's billions in taxpayer money follow the money most of the retaliate in is financially based and there's actually some very powerful whistleblower laws that can protect you if you use them right and the most important whistleblower law is the first amendment of the us constitution we have to put teeth behind it we have to reinvigorate it and we have to make sure our officials in here and lastly steve and we are seeing a lot of these cases we spend a lot of time covering the case of bradley manning and he allegedly solved a lot where that allegedly leaked hundreds of thousands of documents there was a blind web site wiki leaks m l this what went but what is the future of whistleblowing in america it's a constitutional crisis if you look at the manning case forget the first amendment

they tossed that out they denied him there they said made it into cruel and unusual punishment three constitutional violations we have to draw a line we have to demand that our constitutional rights are protected we have to take those claims to court and go all the way to the supreme court if necessary and then we have to go to congress and the american people and fight for those rights these rights are not passive if you wait for someone to give them to you they will retaliate and you'll be waiting a long time it's important for the whistleblowers to get a grasp of to understand where their protections are what laws are out there and use them this agreement they had said well admin sign is even legal under supreme court precedent so we had to dig through the documents find it and now we're going to push it because this. there censorship document that the predicate their censorship on said that the director of the f.b.i.

can censor federal employees if they disagree with the policy being advocated by those employees and it's unconstitutional all of the cases say they were right to censor is limited to classified and secret that the f.b.i. is saying they can censor based on policy these are the types of rules that they sneak in that have to be challenged all right and i'm sure you talk a lot about that on. your list of her hand in hand but thank you so much for coming on this you know i was even coned attorney for several elements and author of the glock the whistle blowers handbook. all readers of time magazine have cast their ballots for the year's most influential figures across all fields from politics to tack and pop culture and the winner airs anonymous a group of activists urged to take the top spot just before the voting ended easily beating out eric martin the general manager of the online sharing community read it

. so should anyone be surprised that our mess is so popular this is how they describe themselves. they are the most powerful. bunch of them with space the seventeen to thirty five girls like that are ruling class or one fourth star individual board for what we don't store where we don't have our new. year's war and there's a chorus. that a group shot to fame over the last year or so in that time they've taken on greed corruption around the world and they have seemed to have a soft spot for the occupy wall street movement low. if you have not heard our brothers and sisters on wall street and we are currently experiencing our own teachers where. this is not in. other cities there were people are starting to peacefully the world there are people who are next more and

more this shit in our history everyone everywhere. here down there and other public spaces. now line observers are not buying the results an unnamed source told a social media site national that anonymous had most likely hacked a vote on twitter anonymous called the claim quote complete rubbish and then tweeted dear that the handle at mashable ever stop to think maybe were leaving because i don't know people like us and actually voted for anonymous. sounds like mashable got smacked down trash now that readers have spoken in time magazine's top one hundred people pull the magazine will have the final say when the results are released on april seventeenth it will be interesting to see at the time well the will of the people. well the occupy movement has a valid terror of their protests this spring and now

a group of organizations across the country plan to hold hundreds of training sessions their goal to train participants how to be better more effective appro testing almost like a boot camp or protest there is now numbers include move on a green peace and rebuild the dream so has the occupy movement inspired morgan evasions to partake in a protest then what is the future of the movement to discuss this day and i are sent independent journalist joins us now live from our new york studio hi there so tell us nor about what this ninety nine percent spring as it's being called is all about. so the idea is to conduct direct action trainings and train one hundred thousand activists in the skills needed for direct action i spoke with a trainer mark provost who's an occupier from new hampshire who told me that this consists of a screening of an excerpt of the movie the highest which is about the sort of regulatory institutions in the political economy of neo liberalism that it will

consist of some skills sharing some thinking about movement building and local action training and best practice sharing and it's worth noting that among the sort of organized organizations that are involved in this rebuild the dream and move on and sort of more institutional organizations that have affiliations with the democratic party are joined by some really quite good grassroots activists movements code pink three fifty the groups that. primarily responsible for having pushed back the authorization of the keystone x.l. pipeline the ruckus society some some organizations that are quite a bit more radical than the ones you named are also involved in this and it seems like what the goal is to do is to provide sort of like you say a boot camp foot soldiers so to speak for the movement noticing that the activists tendencies in the united states are not bound to the democratic party's agenda but

rather this sort of confrontational direct action against coal companies banks whatever other sort of corporate entities are leading to the ruination of the american economy and i imagine some organization there thought of them are more considered to be more radical than other than reading about this i read that there are some concerns that the liberal some liberal groups could be trying to cull optimal but. that seems like a completely baseless allegation to me i mean i can't imagine what about this smacks of cooperation in order in other words what is occupy wall street entitled to that these other groups aren't the percentage of ninety nine percent of the season spring the idea of direct action with which of these things is that really what it seems like to me is the other way around that this looks like occupy wall street's co-optation of these other groups that are given to doing petitions and letter writing campaigns and other sort of more traditional safe forms of activism

and now appear to be influenced by occupy wall street to sort of plug in with the kind of thing that occupy wall street is doing which is to say direct action is providing one hundred thousand people activists trained in direct action isn't the most useful thing these groups could be doing to further occupy wall street what is now what would all be groups coming on board what is your prediction of how big will it be in times of participation and where the protests well take place. well it's all i'm talking to this guy who's a trainer mark provost he indicated that the the ideas for the protests were. participant generated in other words there was no proselytizing from move on to the democratic party or any other group this is mostly a sort of skill sharing and movement building activity that allows people to plan local actions and to coordinate with one another so how do you think actually plays out will be interesting to watch i mean i suspect that it will amplify the number

of people who are prepared to take leading roles organizing may day protests perhaps tax day protests things like that but it's not as though this is a training camp that will then go out and make some big national action it's mostly a skill building initiative and terms of targeting corporations you know that occupy has come to stand alive taking a stance against corporate greed and corporate corruption can you talk about maybe some of the organizations that they plan on occupying or targeting that sprang. yeah i can tell you that there's going to be a big effort to publicize the imminent downfall of bank of america which looks like it could go insolvent any day in this as a tate a new round of bailouts and a new double dip recession and lots more joblessness every month occupy wall street their new campaign is called fight back the ac which is bank of america's stock ticker code three letter code. so that's going to be

a big topic of discussion for occupy wall street is bank of america and then of course the keystone x.l. pipeline to president obama's administration is trying to speed up authorization for its southern part and this is what the nasa is chief climate scientists said this would be game over essentially for the the climate so there's going be a lot of focus on that too i suspect but you know it depends on how the spring shakes out i mean who knows what institutions will be revealed to have massive interior rot in corruption you know reigniting a whole group of protests so it i think that will partly depend on circumstance as it unfolds over the next several months and the last election see if that is the end full the way. any hopes their idea on how this could impact the campaign the election. i think that occupy wall street has a sort of more long view focus than just election to election i think that it's essentially trying to incentivize why i think that the more the less revolutionary

the more reformist minded. are hoping to incentivize a new kind of candidate a new kind of candidacy and disincentive us a certain kind of candidacy and this the hope is this will play out over the next decade or so i mean analogous would be the. civil rights movement where in one nine hundred fifty five when the montgomery bus boycott happened there wasn't a congress that could pass the civil rights and voting rights act in there wasn't a president who would sign it but over the course of a decade of agitation and pressure on the political powers. a new sort of congress was elected a new sort of president and people who were amenable to the kinds of changes that the civil rights protesters were demanding so i think that that's the goal is as far as electoral politics is to exert constant pressure over a matter of years and create a new sort of political formulation where what is currently a radical idea becomes a mainstream idea that has a right and

a congress that they can very. very thread at that time but i appreciate you coming on to share that with that independent journalist. well coming up next is the alone a show that's coming up in just a half hour let's check in with a lot to see what's on today's agenda ok let's go right to you today elena. we're going to take a look at a couple of the trials that are going to be coming up at guantanamo bay in the military commissions will break down just how it is that the government is going to be trying to cover torture from the trial of the four other coconspirators alleged coconspirators of the nine eleven plot to that of the regime on the sciri who allegedly was behind the u.s.s. cole bombing in the year two thousand and also we're going to break down the difference between and so a lot of people are asking if it is the new soap and and many ways it is but in some ways it can be well you can tune into the a lot of show that's coming up.