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the scrunchies and got the joke our viewer jason shaul did not and said hillary is disgusting and then said she'd an evil warmonger so let me just take the moment to say that while yes we did for her and she's in our hair to express our solitary lee in solidarity with hillary if this is her right to express her passions than for lack thereof not actually her policy choices and that that my rantings and i will be back with more as usual later in the week. well that's some good news coming out of the ninth circuit court of appeals struck down the federal government's interpretation of the computer fraud abuse that is of course that could run the risk of criminalizing the conduct of millions of americans so if you live in the nine western states that are covered by this court it looks like you're safe from prosecution for simply violating an employer's computer use policy and here's how the majority opinion written by chief judge alex kozinski you read minds have wandered since the beginning of time and the computer gives employees new ways to

procrastinate i-g. chatting with friends playing games shopping or watching sports highlights such activities are routinely prohibited by many computer use policy of employees are seldom disciplined for occasional use of our work computers for personal purposes nevertheless under the broad interpretation of the c.f.a. this minor dalliances would become federal crime also unlikely you'll be prosecuted for watching reason t.v. on your work computer you could be employers that want to rid themselves of troublesome employees without following proper procedures the threat to report them to the f.b.i. unless they quit ubiquitous seldom prosecuted crimes and by arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement now this decision stands out in a way that several other circuit courts have ruled so we could be seeing it go all the way to the supreme court but first let's find out more about his attempts in government overreach and how to live in the case of bradley manning joining me to discuss is josh gerstein reporter for politico josh thanks so much for joining us

tonight and i guess if we could just start by going back to the computer fraud and abuse act and what was the actual purpose of it was when it was originally passed well i think it paced back to nineteen eighty-four or so and the idea was to basically have a law that would make it a federal crime to break into somebody's computer it seemed like it was primarily aimed at people who were outside of the government office or a business office trying to crack into their computers and pull information out. and so here the court is saying that the language is so gras that basically if you are an employee and you're sitting at your desk and you're doing something that violates the policies they're technically they could be criminalized but were they just going after the crowd langridge or have we actually seen any example that has happened you know there have been cases where you've seen both employees we've got going after it's fairly common now actually when an employee maybe leaves an office

or is getting ready to leave an office it is often the case sad to say that they will try to take things that the company might consider their intellectual property there might be a dispute about who owns the information say my contacts list in my e-mail program if it's a company e-mail does that contactless belong to me or does it belong to that company there could be a dispute about that there could be other things that employee might have access to that they might like to take with them they may not always tell their current employer they're planning to do that and of course there are also cases cases where the employer doesn't you know shut off access and somebody might go back into the computer system afterwards or the case that actually went to the ninth circuit involved a former employee using other employees of the company that he was trying to recruit to take information from them so those are the kinds of cases where it is this has been used but it's even been used in cases that don't involve an employee relationship at all. all right so not exactly because if you look at the way of the dissenting opinion was right may call that going to kill

a scenario is far fetched hypothetical although you know they weren't so so happy about it but on the contrary so i read a little bit. of the opinion there which mentioned reason t.v. but if you keep reading more of it this judge mentions craig's less right he mentioned the farm bill he mentions to go through the refreshing to at least see a judge be able to i don't know if it's a name things like this and realize how it applies in real life and not that they're living in the stone age well you know judge kozinski is a very internet savvy judge that may not be that much of a compliment since most judges i think pretty much do live in the stone age or at least the yellow. and age he least is fairly familiar with what people are doing on the internet though he made his share of mistakes in that arena because he left one time me an archive online of his personal jokes some of which were off color and some bad videos that he probably shouldn't allowed to be on the internet so he

probably not an internet wizard but he's far more kind of verse it was web culture and pop culture probably than most people who are sitting on the federal bench. i mean if you know i guess craigslist in farmville and figure out how you're going to get it out but you're right in the sense that not being an internet wizard is still good enough for us in days when it comes to so many of our justices but he also said that this can even apply and you know you mentioned you don't necessarily have to be an employee but it also can be used just on a on a dating site if you lie about yourself well that's the problem it's not only the employee employer relationship where you have a question of what's authorized access but any time you're using any site on the internet that could range from craigslist to google to a dating site and the judge made the point that if you said you're handsome and six three and you're actually only in five four that actually violates the terms of service of a lot of dating sites and so technically it would be a federal crime now you might think well why would the federal government ever come

after me for something like that and they probably wouldn't except for the fact that there's been at least one case where someone was prosecuted for sending comments pretending to be somebody online that they weren't i think it was an adult woman an old older woman who was pretending to be a teenager and was bullying somebody else online the feds actually charged her with lying about her age on i think it was facebook or something like that and they had she was accused of violating the terms of service judge kozinski s. point was nobody really knows you know it's like i tunes people always joke that they click through the terms of service and don't read them at all well you do now could be committing a crime if you violate any of those rules if you thought the federal government's interpretation here which this judge and his i guess eight colleagues who voted for his position. now it's pretty scary stuff and i think this specific case we're talking about was a my face woman raring to rule was was caught going there but not only do most of us not read these entire terms of service you know contracts that are laid out

there but it just seems like somebody really needs to read more closely the legislation that's asking congress because so much of the were. reading is just so broad and so vague and you see exactly how the government tries to interpret it but i want to ask you before we go you know two of the charges i believe against bradley manning are also for speaking are for unauthorized access on the computers here does this ruling in any way change his case or affect it. i think it could affect it a little bit it doesn't directly affected in that it doesn't control what a military judge is going to do that judge would probably look at all the rulings on this and as you mentioned earlier most of the rulings actually go against what the ninth circuit did yesterday so that judge would probably go along with those other rulings and also bradley manning is facing some pretty serious charges there's aiding the enemy charge they could have him put in prison potentially for the rest of his life and then the computer fraud charges are pretty far down on the list that said if he could get those charges knocked out perhaps because of the

judge's ruling that they didn't apply in these circumstances that would certainly be some sort of a boost to him and at least a moral victory for him if not necessarily a practical one in terms of the amount of prison time he might get if he's convicted now both definitely part of the defense you know and i'm saying that he didn't actually exceed any kind of access that he shouldn't have had access to a lot of these documents in the first place to which he was authorized josh thanks so much for joining us tonight ok great to be back with you. just ahead on the show when we come back our west hit eighty eight the laurian are acting like you woke up in a car the area yesterday these are two time winner tonight and i'm happy our beds are going after americans are lying and u.c.l.a. sent letters three hundred to students actually telling them. what's going on.

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ok it's time for tonight's truth not award and this time because representative alan greste if you follow republican fear mongering you might think that has bill infiltrating the us via latin america is imaginary threat number one but this week allen west exposed a different infiltration that he claims is widespread already happening at government level. that's right everybody get ready because it's time to take a trip down the rabbit hole with west right into the twenty first century very own red chair welcome to the year one hundred fifty i mean twenty two of them buckle your seat belt because of the ballot to get we are communist or being out in the u.s. government i know not alger hiss these are members of our very own house of representatives

playing a communist once again made their way to the u.s. government we have to ask out holding secret meetings working behind the scenes the spread of communism to the u.s. only one man knows for sure. is. the responsibility to my conclusion those responsible. for you know you are. covering up communist. are no it's not just the mccarthy it's alan west and he's going to get to the bottom of it now unlike mccarthy west refused to name names but ocean were a good mccarthy i know that without a list of names to persecute claims of communism are pouring so when fred west's office will like it they dropped the bombshell of all bomb shells there aren't in fact there's even entire web site out there and apparently this sort of confidence isn't operating out in the open right under very nose at courting us office the

congressman was referring to the seventy six members of the congressional progressive caucus the communist party of public refer to the progressive caucus and its allies but progressive caucus speaks for itself these individuals certainly aren't proponents of free markets or individual economic freedom. so that's right according to wes all seventy six members of the congressional progressive caucus are communists and if you take a look at their website seems pretty legitimate put away as it's a front a front for a big that economists infiltrating our government from the inside so representative keith ellison if you thought being a muslim in the u.s. was enough to deal with buckle up because you just became a comrade and roll and bridge all of us get the struggles of being a latino in arizona because you've just been bred with the hot red eye or of communism and yet i go to the vice chairs of the progressive caucus as well as the other sixty nine members but that's not all take a listen to west and october this progressive movement is really were communists

recall back at the turn of the century which were the nineteenth and twentieth century so we started to really see the face a liberal progressive or. allowed to have not just the communism that infiltrated congress according to the way to as a liberal progressive movement is actually communism rebranded and in main street and lots of hard line p.r. firm so if you believe in fighting for economic justice protecting civil rights civil liberties promoting global peace environmental protection apparently to west must mean your economy is telling point out obviously the progressive caucus does not always act in the interests of these issues they're supposed to support but that's a whole different story overseeing of the entire progressive caucus that they're all communists representative allen west it's night time where.

hi guys it's time for happy hour and joining me tonight artie correspondent christine for south and mike riggs says he added there are reason that is the end reason dot com and though i don't have. oh where should we start you know one of the things that we've heard a lot from people like rick santorum who now is sadly no longer a presidential candidate he's leaving as if you know the liberals they want to go to college and that's just so elitist of that vehicle because. first of all that was said he wants everybody in america to go to cost which what a small. group could piece admitted women who have your card every day and put their skills to test that are taught by some liberal college professor and try to

a doctorate. all right so does college mean he was or does it not according to a new study going to college and obviously can be quite different ways here going to college makes people care less about helping to promote racial i understanding perfectly clear about this they told people about their attitudes on race when they got to college and then after one year at college and when they finished college and they found that across all races people cared less and less and less about promoting racial understanding the further they went through college. it could last yeah well i think that is one reason understanding right about trying to get rid of i don't know i don't know what that means i have no idea what i mean i'm i think what it could mean is traditionally in this country you go to high school and grade school in the neighborhood in which you grow up so a lot of times that means that you go to grade school and high school with people that look a little more like you come from a similar socioeconomic background so maybe it's simply that when you get to college and i'm going on to mr kevin maybe when you get to college you're actually

in a place where you're with people of several races all sort of you know in your classes in your dining halls in your dorms so it becomes less of a concern because you feel like it's not an issue that also kind of you know right then you know. i want to be really careful with the right seater because like a large part of the intellectualized white supremacy movement is uses terms like real ism and stuff like that a lot of one of the ideas that like white supremacist promote is that once you actually get more experience living working whatever with other races you can realize that you should stick your so i don't want to promote that idea but maybe it's true though i want to go to college and sort of realize like this is no big deal there are black kids in my classes hispanic kids in my classes what more can i do here you know i'll go to the i don't know either because they're you know out in the middle of nowhere to write i mean you obviously have a college is there in urban centers but then a lot of people just go out to places that in you know. rural areas where it's just a small college town or maybe you simply have other things on your agenda and on

your mind after the party you're going to yeah trying to get a lay reading all of your things hearing all i'm hearing you are going raise understand is exactly. right are prosecutors currently they can try to go after you just for lying which basically means i mean i think. politicians do this in the past. i did not. sexual relations for that woman miss lewinsky the british government should we should we sure should not forgive part of you really i'm coming for. you when of course that there's that thing is. when you have to know why but listen to this and there's this thing called one zero zero one that's how it's known in one. circles and basically it's

a law against lying and so when federal prosecutors can't get enough evidence to bring other charges against a person they can try to do that and there's a story about this woman who basically she was a marine biologist operator of whale watching but whatever boat captains whistled at a humpback whale and approached the boat then regulators investigated whether that incident constituted harassment of a whale which is illegal and now they're trying to say that she she lied so they're charging her not because she is for life i also think that if i don't really use that a whale is that they reconsider rassmann is the most absurd thing i've ever heard of my life actually yeah i mean it just goes along the lines with creating laws that have such loose terms and of course it comes back to a quote that really resonates with me which says it is better to be rich and guilty in this country than it is to be poor and innocent so you think of things like lying when you think of some of the loose terminology written into the laws and that is what they used to prosecute people based on. the wide angle view

which is that government basically exists to create more work for itself and that's why we have laws like this but like overcomers ation of everything it's i seriously i like want to go to sleep and dream at night because it's boring because that's how exhausting that kind of garbage is and of course prosecutors would use it for this i mean the user where they can because they don't come along and boring you know it was boring you also it's not boring it's exhausting it's like physically draining and you're about. just the misuse of government does not always find something if they've got a great lawyer on their little nose if there's some sort of loophole that will find legal language but sometimes that stuff helps people our to right i mean it's not always a federal agency yeah sure but you get the one who gets to use it more often. can we do this u.c.l.a. was that a story over ok it's not a sad story it's a great story but always to explain why you go to louise that i think that we have a new story to do the explanation for me it's take a look at last weekend for high school seniors on u.c.l.a.

is waiting was also celebrated when they got a financial aid from u.c.l.a. that stated quote once again congratulations on your admission to u.c.l.a. we hope that this information will assist you in making your decision to join the brewing family in the fall. turns out they said that by accident over nine hundred students there were still on the waiting lists and basically they just forgot to take off the last little letter there i just think that this was. just the saddest thing i've ever heard because sorry there's so much pressure involved when you're applying for college right people put a lot of dreams and hopes onto this and can you imagine just thinking yes i got it and then having everything crushed after college admissions process is so excruciating only emotional it was for me i mean checking the mailbox every day waiting to see if you got into the school that you wanted and for a lot of money but also as a lad i didn't forget you know. i mean u.c.l.a.

were from california i mean that is a school that so many people left their dream school and to get on the waiting list and think that you then got into who knows maybe cancel scholarships or cancel acceptances and other places and then find out oh wait you actually didn't get it well that was the last part is that they know to others cools you maybe reject certain scholarships and other opportunities that you could have had. you're left with nothing i'm ready to hear your let's hear it i mean it's these kids when i know in my community. at least there are other plans that's probably why they ended up on the waiting list in the first place because without a person on the other hand i think that this kind of experience is great preparation for the job market that awaits them in obama's america because they know what. you see only i know that's and that's all it was worth our american college and obama's america will be out of college looking for a job in another president somewhere yeah ok it will be true it will be in two thousand and sixteen yeah right eric and i don't know any way here's what matters

this is just the first of many disappointments for people who are younger than us that's all there is to it like it's good that they're learning rejection now because they're going to learn it for years in whatever crappy state school they graduate from and they can only get a job like his attempts were like cooking fries like it's good to learn to like be in pain. coming over the last. two i don't know they're going to be on here dose of realism but seriously we have a problem where you give everybody a trophy never even won anything. i do not know. if it could have been planned for this to happen. you know it's absolutely tragic but like let's look at the silver lining there they're prepared to operate and like much more brutal america where a college degree doesn't even mean all that much i mean like what was are you get online and say cooking fries at mcdonald's for the rest of their lives. when i was in the running i mean i had. clearly all over the world where was.

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