tonight on r g eight of the world's a geo political heavy hitters gather in washington a whole lot of ground to cover but the conflict in syria and the global economy won't be the only things being discussed behind closed doors we'll tell you what else they might be talking about. three hundred summer means we had a refrigerated truck parked out here. to help us with overflow as part of the elite illegal immigration debate here in the u.s. no one likes to talk about people dying trying to achieve a better life argy goes to arizona and gets a firsthand look at a shocking problem. because it looks like you are cyber freedoms could get caught

in the net so find people bills might be down for the count but get ready for a whole new slew of acronyms attacking your computer privacy to take you to the frontlines of the cyber war. it's wednesday april eleventh seven pm in washington d.c. my name is christine freeze out and you're watching our team. well the g eight summit is a little more than a month away and foreign ministers today from each of the group of eight countries are here in washington to begin setting the agenda the g. eight countries include the united states russia britain canada france germany italy and japan now they are expected to touch upon some of the world's biggest geopolitical issues from the violence in syria the economic crisis in the eurozone and some of those concerns they have about iran's nuclear program and north korea's planned launch of a rocket which some say is just prize is

a disguised missile test so all of these are problems that are expected to be discussed and all most likely be on the public agenda for next month's summit but with such important leaders all in one place we want to talk also about some of those other things that are a little less in the limelight some of the potential backroom deals but maybe up for discussion since politics after all at the end of the day is also about money and power or than anything else afternoon argy correspondent liz wahl covered the details of the summit and broke it all down for us take a listen. i am here just blocks away from the blair house where secretary of state hillary clinton is hosting some of the world's foreign ministers from some of the world's more powerful countries and we know what's on the public agenda syria's the area is likely to top it agenda especially in the wake of recent events where it looks like neither side is going to come by with that ceasefire so yes syria

undeniably a hot topic right now but it's likely that this group is going to be discussing a much more behind closed doors and really what's on everybody's mind these days of the economy and it's hard to imagine that eight of the world's most powerful leaders are going to get together and not discuss the economy i want to take a moment to talk about what the g. eight summit what this group really is this is the g. eight so eight of the most richest most powerful countries but left out of the mix are countries like china india russia russia is part of the g. eight china india and brazil and these are the emerging economies which are playing a much larger role in terms of g.o.p. geopolitics. with their economies becoming more and more powerful image specially in relation to the more western economy of which are traditionally more powerful but you know we have a shifting world the way of which the balance of power is these days is

shifting now liz i mean certainly the last time these leaders met some of those protests in greece were sort of at the beginning a lot has happened since last year's g eight summit just talk a little bit about the fact that a lot of the countries that are having issues financially are not the ones sitting at the table here and that's exactly one of the policies that the group has promoted is our charity and if you could remember the life spread protests that happening. people literally taking to the streets protesting the very policies that these countries that this group had been promoting and they're saying that some of these policies. the greed of portugal paid are suffering they say the policies pushed by the g. eight have been contributing to rising unemployment and are pro blogging the

recession so there's a lot of speculation and some people say that the policies that this group pushes is not necessarily in the best interests of those that are not part of this elite group and some of those other policies when we think about all that is going on right now certainly. the iraq war the you know the u.s. is out of iraq now and now they're going to start talking about what's next in afghanistan how to keep the middle east on track with all the various tensions there talk a little bit about those sort of non agenda items that could be front and center and that's what i wanted to since you brought in extra skin as a a lot of time predicted an indicator of how our group is going to act based on their actions in the past and if you look at what this group has advocated in the past they have pushed for more funding for the wars in iraq and afghanistan and of course here we are ten years later not a clear resolution and not

a clear victory shrilly of the trillions of dollars pumped into this war massive amounts of lives lost on both sides and here we are many wondering if intervening if it was all worth it and certainly one of the many topics that protesters come out to protest against is sort of what is decided on some of the policy regarding intervention and wars and from what i understand was i mean originally next month that was not supposed to be we're going to be rid of camp david that's exactly it if you're going. not too long ago there was the sudden and abrupt announcement of a change of venue for this originally it was supposed to be held in the city of chicago course president obama's hometown but then all of a sudden the white house announces hey it's not going to be in chicago it's going to be camp david maryland not too far away from here but this is a site that is kind of tucked away in the woods more secretive more secluded where

you know the normal everyday person protesters won't have access to these leaders so there's a lot of speculation as to the reasoning behind this change of venue a lot of people think it's to avoid these protests there were massive protests planned because you know occupiers wanted to take their messages to just to the north of the g eight which could prove to be quite an embarrassment for president obama to have these protests taking place outside of this summit especially. you know as campaign season clearly is underway but as we know those protests will undoubtedly happen just won't be quite as close to where the sun is taking place r.t. correspondent lizzie we do appreciate it well the bodies are piling up in what some rights groups are calling a humanitarian crisis despite a decrease in the number of people crossing the border into the us the migrant death rate keeps climbing but these i and identified victims are rarely mentioned

during u.s. immigration policy discussions all this despite the fact that migrant deaths near the border in the past fifteen years are about the same as the u.s. casualties in the wars in iraq and afghanistan are going to reports from arizona. sonora desert in arizona helping shape its. spectacular peaks. it's a treasure of the american southwest but this is also a frontierland where a deadly conflict is underway. it's almost a mass disaster situation the disaster which dr headspaces is the growing number of unidentified bodies being found along arizona's southern desert bodies stacked high in a fight for space and perhaps even a proper burial one day it becomes not so much an effort to

determine why that person died it becomes an effort to sort out who's who were inside of the pima county cooler at the medical examiner's office which has the capacity to hold hundreds of bodies now this facility is much larger than other places around the country pacifically because of the issue of bodies being pounds along the border even so lack of storage is a major headache three hundred summer means we have a refrigerated truck parked out here. to help us with overflow as some arrives he expects they will need it again the department of homeland security recently boasted about the sharp drop in border patrol rest suggesting the government's crackdown has helped curb illegal immigration the migrant deaths ever mean consistently high so if the border is absolutely deadly more than six thousand have died along the us mexico border since one thousand nine hundred ninety four

according to human rights groups that's when operation gatekeeper a program for defined international crossing with high priced benzene thousands of agents and high tech surveillance was launched border agents called this area below us there are being a place where migrants commonly try to scale the wall to get into the u.s. for the scores and try to make a crossing here there are many others who choose a much more treacherous and sometimes deadly route. into the u.s. policymakers thought pushing the immigrant flow to deserts would deter my creation instead he has led to what some call a death trap internationally migration is. there's attempts to control migration through the same tactics militarization and through building malls and we see them in various places them in india and pac and see this in health and. we thought you know disastrous wall attempts. in germany many remains found in the desert are

merely bone fragments making them difficult to identify in other cases remains of the missing are never found leaving hundreds perhaps thousands of families wondering what happened to their loved ones during their journey north the reality is militarizing borders does not control migration while politicians argue over who can spend the most money to fortify the border hundreds more john and jane doe's they chasing the american dream well end up here at the people county morgue in tucson arizona ramon go in though our t.v. . so this is a look at one chapter in a story that is very real and happens every day along the border with texas or california and as you saw there with arizona i want to bring in christian ramirez with the southern border communities coalition he's in san diego for us how dare

question not talk to me a little bit about how often this happens how big of an issue this is people coming over crossing the border and then just passing away before they ever get anywhere you're seeing of pleasure to be on your show but unfortunately this has been a huge issue for very long time in our communities as matter of fact a very important policy that the u.s. government has along the u.s. mix water part of this policy is purposely. shifting that maybe we should flows away from the urban areas and into the deserts and mountains were made of its head in record numbers for the past fifteen years this is not a new issue we have raised it is true there are incredibly republican administration alike that it is unacceptable for a government to have the policy in place it purposely kills people unfortunately despite all of the the claiming that go along the us mexico border policy makers

don't seem to care about the fact that our all of it is purposely leaving the lives of innocent men women and children so you're saying that because of some of these policies especially the ones that we've been hearing about in arizona immigrants are no longer going into phoenix or tucson they're crossing into some of the deserted areas of the desert where there aren't as many places to stop for water. and for problems as our saying here. absolutely what we're seeing. you know pester additional border across interests across seas or occurred in urban areas through sandy. region in the personal but isn't as a result of a massive influx of them into the mess of hiring of agents along the border but the last migration flows have shifted from the urban areas and into the deserts and mountains and that's where we're seeing a huge amount of folks that name as

a result of being exposed to the elements but that's not the only damaging piece here we're also seeing more and more eat instead of using the rights of individuals who are seen in egypt's cruelly beating my friends and we are seen. shooting in killing innocent innocent. fought on this border so it's not only false we keep that in the air coming through things but it will to raise that this unknown to us but also it may be killed the regular bait it would have got along the us mexico border and certainly interesting and hard to say if any of those cases or how many of those cases will actually be investigated be looked into especially when in many cases as as as a lot of these people's families don't know that their family members have died chris let me switch gears for a second and twenty twelve are about to get hot and heavy into the election season and immigration policy will no doubt be discussed and debated especially since this

is an issue that candidate obama promised to make some headway on what do you anticipate that we'll be seeing in the coming months regarding immigration. unfortunately we are not going to see any substantive legislative action in the us congress running bishan policy this year is going to be very complicated for dads who are going to be very difficult for him against me as a dispensary to really make an impact specially because that and the immigrant sent in minutes. will in this country. president obama run it and the republican party have had any real. policy recommendations and immigration. reform in the united states so until both parties take the issue of immigration seriously until we have knowledge that our current policies are not only out of the but are responsible for that o'dell's

of then women and children it is very difficult for this country to move forward humane immigration reform discouragingly needed in the united states especially along the next or do we need. to spend in the us mexico border region is an acceptable amount of dine here and orginally presidential elections are the most difficult time for immigrant communities because that is when a dent in immigrant venerate starts getting heat along with a campaign trail certainly being from san diego myself that is certainly the case when you interview any candidate for any office they all have a strong opinion one way or the other let's have a look back in two thousand and eight and think about what's happened on president obama's watch certainly he has spoken out against the ten seventy bill in arizona but names like governor jan brewer sheriff joe arpaio these have become household

names people who are blatantly you know like to present themselves as over the top strikes against illegal immigration how have things changed for immigrants in terms of i mean as we showed in this report here were immigrants coming over and yet more dying what are some of the issues that are new in terms of the last couple years. i think what we have seen as we solve the our national lead the leaders being unable to pass comprehensive immigration reform we have seen states like arizona take it up and have to themselves to pad their own interpretation of what immigration law should look like in this country and we have that house bunch of different immigration policies in place in different states arizona certainly being perhaps the most egregious example but alabama doesn't fall far behind states like mississippi are also. courting this and immigrant.

payment policies so what we have seen is that because of the inability of the white house and the u.s. congress to pass immigration reform we are seeing now state and even municipality passing their own interpretation of immigration policy making it really a very complicated reality for immigrants who would be perfectly fine and protected in one county and it's in the prospect county line they could be in maricopa county and being hunted down but sheriff joe arpaio and as well that question i mean what's the conversation like among people among us citizens who think it's an important issue obama has disappointed on but is there a better alternative they'll turn to for the american public to ensure that our policies are reflective of the traditions of this country of the values of our nation part of it is to make sure that our elected officials start using and

rhetoric in the campaign trail and we're reaching out to the american public to make sure that we change the rhetoric around us issue and we have a new way of talking about immigration and he said since all right christian american southern border communities coalition appreciate your insight on this very important matter a pleasure. well there's been an unmistakable shift in the landscape when it comes to the privacy you have when you use the internet and whether time now it's becoming more and more difficult to remember when if you look for something online price of a plane ticket or a hotel a new pair of shoes that's where it ended and now things are different you will be barraged with ads for that hotel or those airline tickets or those shoes and with plenty more like it and let the inner god internet gods know your interests are you listen to what you download and what you post online no longer just for your eyes only so where does it end and how do people feel about not only online marketers but about the government watching your every move or harmfulness for the resident

dot net posed that question to several people she spoke to in times square new york city. in the name of national security governments around the globe are trying to pass legislation that allows them to monitor censor and disrupt people online are you ok with that this week let's talk about that for national security reasons i wouldn't object to that but that's the case isn't it yeah it should be legal so you trust them to use that power wisely. i haven't think about it but i think so yes. you know to them does make a difference. maybe if you're in the u.s. or some other place in my field then yeah exactly security reasonable privacy also counts so for me it. picks up and going to find out regardless anyway so

that's the way i look at it so you don't mind i'm looking through your e-mail. going to find the importance of my e-mail but it's your e-mail and it's your life and they don't have any way to look through i agree with you on that. but. it's hard to explain i guess you know it's just the nature of the world where you have to. have some type of power you know what i mean but we just have to try to let the right person that's where you get the chance that's where you have a ballot you know that's where you go to you vote and vote for somebody who you think you can trust part of it i could say and why they're doing it but i also don't want them to get too much into you know our personal business you know yeah it's a tough car is a tough call it is do you think that's just the way it's going and you know as a society as we move more on line inevitably our minds going to be not so free yes i do believe that you think about that when you go online that someone might be watching all the time but more and more hackers and stuff like that so that was my

biggest concern not the government not the government was there probably already looking. but they're not. you think it's ok for a government to monitor its citizens the bottom line is before you post anything on line you might want to consider who could be listening. and there's plenty of legislation out there that's going to make it so people will be able to be listening to make it so it's more difficult for you to use the internet freely and certainly privately now i'm an international scale there's act at the n.c. counterfeiting trade agreement it was signed by twenty two out of twenty seven member states but now they're starting to be a little bit of pushback from the european parliament with a whole lot of people having a change of heart about ratifying it and we saw the all the online blackouts help kill the soap other online privacy act and keep up the protect ip act there is plenty more out there that poses a threat to online privacy and

a free internet i spoke earlier to great how she's associated with the online hacktivist group anonymous and was in boston massachusetts with this like you said it's much more on an international scale and it's much more for law enforcement so to utilize all this technology to spy on us basically go for is you know i think actually a really important piece of legislation that will attempt to stop us based companies from spreading. g.'s it's used to inhibit your goals our human rights and i think that's a very important piece to it's all the other big piece to go for that's really important is forcing all of these big internet companies actually display clearly true of their users what type of mission they gather and who they share it with. there are a whole lot of people who look at the thought for example and they say you know

what this is no different this is soap or two point zero what do you think i mean is the government actually going to think feed in making a fake wall to sopa. i don't think they are i think just like with the you know the people are going to rise up go to the streets you know just this weekend in paris there's going to be on saturday another protest against act again so if you install this type of legislation and you know on june ninth there's going to be a global sort of protest against it so i think right now the people are pretty committed to stopping this and i think that will shine through just like it did with the first round i think it's interesting that you mention sort of what's going on in other countries i'm wondering if you even know this but when you compare what some of our lawmakers here in the u.s. want to do how does that compare i mean are there other countries where the lawmakers there say you know what everyone should just be left alone they should be allowed to do whatever they want on the internet you know germany is not a pretty good record of trying to protect users privacy a lot more you know when you look at various lawsuits against companies who have

violated people's rights online or who have done things that are you know against the public will germany has been one of those come countries that's really thought or the people what about i mean you mentioned sort of the got a clash against soap on people here in the u.s. and some of those online blackouts that really helped bring awareness to people who had no idea that there was any sort of legislation like this even in the works but what about what comes next i mean is this something that people have already forgotten about that this is not their number one issue. i think a lot of people have forgotten about it and you know the thing that needs to happen is the ones who have been need to come up and get those people involved and you know all these big companies that start up at one point need to stand back up you know there is an actual group companies. that includes people like google microsoft yahoo you know all these big companies that wiki leaks you know that are with you see i should say and that actually came together for the blackout and those people

need to get you know their resources back together and make it happen again or it was their support that really threw in the international price which then got the general public but i've got to say right here in d.c. and really around the country when when you hear about this legislation when you hear about the need to give the national security agency the f.b.i. the government more power it's always in the name of the same thing as always in the name of cyber security a lot of people say you know the internet is the future of terrorism is there a legit national security concern. here or is this totally blown out of proportion what do you think. i think it's going out of proportion i mean there's a lot of concern but you have to balance that concern you know general when i ask the council of europe you know said this perfectly i think i want to goals should not be used simply to protect outdated business models and a lot of these laws they're trying to pass are doing just that and they're using

the fear tactic of you know national security to convince the general public that these need to be passed now one of the faces of this movement sort of on the other side has become former senator chris dodd chris dodd now the head sort of lobbyist for the head of the motion picture association of america he doesn't think that that is necessarily bad he thinks that there's a possibility that in some other form is going to come what's the answer here because a lot of these movie companies and music companies they they do spend a whole lot of money to make their product and when it's simply pirated so easily without any sort of consequences they say you know this is wrong so is there a better way is there an answer that's not being explored yet absolutely i mean i'm a prime example right in front of you know i went to jail for copyright infringement i was a hired in the ninety's and the one thing direct stated you know even though i'm

going to subscriber i'm a group. spotify subscriber if you provide the materials in a format and some kind of mechanism that is simple to use as a good price people will pay. that it's as simple as that and instead of actually spending the time and effort on that these old outdated business models are they're using the law they're they're attempting to subvert our freedoms and ways that we're not going to allow when what they really need to be focusing on is research and development and coming up with new methods to get our data through the biggest one is when you hear you know the next or do you know the i did a lot of things well what's going to happen from that is people like me aren't going to be able to find your movies on the services that we pay for anymore and we're going to turn to the only other way we have to get them sitting in our chair at our house which is part of it's so them to provide us their material their content in ways we want to consume it at this point you know it used to be that we

just had to accept whatever they gave us that's changed and they need to update with the times i think that's a really important point a lot of people just didn't want to see the internet kind of crazy move as fast and as far as it has but you're right i mean whether people like it or not it's just going to continue to go in that direction so they're going to have to think of ways . i tunes of course another example i think that you didn't mention just real quick your prediction greg for what you see as coming up next in terms of online privacy i see they're going to keep continuing to pass try to pass back to c.p.p. and all these other wonderful laws and i'm hoping that they don't get passed and laws like ok do get passed because you know the gold line freedom act is an important one and i think that people will actually rise up to the streets again just like they did last time especially across europe which was just a huge amount of people and will stop it and if nothing else we know all these new fun acronyms an hour ahead.