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three hundred summer means we had a refrigerator truck parked out here. to help with the overflow as part of the illegal immigration debate here in the u.s. no one wants to talk about people dying trying to achieve a better life our she goes to arizona and gets a firsthand look at a shocking problem. doesn't look like your cyber freedoms could get caught in the net the sopa and pipa bills might be down for the count like get ready for a whole new slew of acronyms attacking your from your privacy we'll take you to the front lines of this cyber war. and nasa isn't the only thing that seen better days
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soon enough the international space station would become the most expensive ocean garbage the world has ever known so well north high nation cooperation seeing as well we'll explore. it good evening it is wednesday april eleventh eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine for you watching our team. while the bodies are piling up in what some rights groups are calling a humanitarian crisis despite a decrease in the number of people crossing the border into the u.s. the migrant death rate keeps climbing but these unidentified victims are rarely mentioned during u.s. immigration policy discussions or migrants out near the border in the past fifteen years are about the same as the u.s. casualties in the wars in iraq and afghanistan archies were mungle in the reports from arizona. the wind blows through the rugged sonora desert in
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arizona helping shape its rocky valleys and spectacular peaks it's a treasure of the american southwest but this is also a frontier land where deadly conflict is a way. it's almost a mass disaster situation the disaster which dr headspace is is the only number of an identified bodies being found along arizona's desert body stacked high enough to fight for a space and perhaps even a proper burial one day it becomes not so much an effort to determine why that person died becomes an effort to sort out who's who are inside of the pima county cooler at the medical examiner's office which has the capacity to hold hundreds of bodies now this facility is much larger than other places around the country pacifically because of the issue of bodies being pounds along
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the border even so lack of storage is a major headache three hundred summer means we have a refrigerated truck parked out here. to help us with overflow some arrives he expects he will need it again the department of homeland security recently boasted about the sharp drop in border patrol rest suggesting the government's crackdown has helped curb illegal immigration the migrant bears have remained consistently high so if the border is absolutely deadly more than six thousand have that along the us mexico border since one thousand nine hundred four according to human rights groups that's when operation gate keeper program for defined international crossing with high priced benzene thousands of agents and high tech surveillance was launched border agents call this area below us there are a place where migrants karma. try to scale the wall to get into the u.s.
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for the scores we try to make the crossing here there are many others who choose a much more treacherous and sometimes deadly route into the u.s. policymakers start pushing the immigrant flow to the deserts with the term migration instead it has led to what some call a death trap internationally migration is. there's attempts to control migration through the same tactic militarisation through building malls and we see them in various places them in india unpack and in health and in israel you've seen disastrous wall attempts in germany many remains found in the desert for merely bone fragments making them difficult to identify you know there are cases remains of the missing are never found leaving hundreds perhaps thousands of families wondering what happened to their loved ones during their journey north the reality
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is militarizing border does not control migration well politicians argue over who can spend the most money to fortify the border hundreds more john. the day chasing the american dream wound up here at the pima county morgue in tucson arizona ramon the lindo r t so this is a look at one chapter in a story that is very real and happens every day along the border with texas from california and as you saw here with arizona earlier i spoke with christian or americans with the southern border communities coalition about this and he talked about the difficult plight of the people along the border take a look. unfortunately this has been a huge issue for a long time in our communities as a matter of fact a very important policy that the u.s. government has along the u.s. makes border part of this policy is purposely. shifting the language and flows away
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from there in areas and into the deserts and mountains we're going to die in record numbers for the past fifteen years this is not a new issue we have cosmic rays is to democratic and republican administration alike that it is unacceptable or the government to have a policy in place that purposely kills people unfortunately despite of. the finding that oil on the u.s. makes the water policy makers don't seem to care about the fact that our all government is purposely claiming the lives of innocent men women and children so you're saying that because of some of these policies especially the ones that we've been hearing about in arizona immigrants are no longer going into phoenix or tucson they're crossing into some of the deserted areas of the desert where there aren't as many places to stop for water. and for problems as that we are saying here
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absolutely what we are. in the past for additional water across interests across things occurred in urban areas through this and it will be region in the personal but it's because the result of that message inflicts. the necessary along the border that those migration flows have shifted from the urban areas into the deserts and mountains and that's where we're seeing a huge amount of fault as a result of being exposed to the elements but that's not the only damage in peace here we're also seeing more and more you can see of using the rates of individuals who are seemingly gins brutally beating my parents and we are seen agents shooting in killing innocent innocents. for on this border so it's not only fox. in the air coming through the spittle to range that there are no answers but also
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maybe it's being killed and raped me oh border guards along the us mexico border certainly interesting and hard to say if any of those cases are or how many of those cases will actually be investigated be looked into especially when in many cases as as it has a lot of these people's families don't know that their family members have died chris let me switch gears for a second it's when a trial for about to get hot and heavy into the election season and immigration policy will no doubt be discussed and debated especially since this is an issue that candidate obama promised to make some headway on what do you anticipate that we'll be seeing in the coming months regarding immigration. unfortunately we're not going to see any substantive legislative action in you was congress or an immigration policy this year it is going to be very complicated for that to occur and it's also very difficult for him going to amuse him to spend three to really
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make an impact specially because that and the immigrant sentiment as. well and dispensary. president obama. and the republican party if you have had any would be your. policy recommendations and there is an immigration. reform in the united states so until both parties take the issue of immigration seriously until we acknowledge their current policies are not only out of the but are responsible for the deaths of thousands of men women and children it is very difficult for this country to move forward humane immigration reform going to urgently needed and the united states especially along the us mexico border willing to start up that thought that spent a lot of the us mexico border region it is unacceptable to have amount of thought staying here and unfortunately the presidential election started it was difficult time for him going to communities because that is when they're in immigrant
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rhetoric starts getting heat up along with the campaign trail certainly having friends out here and i felt that that is certainly the case when you interview any candidate for any office they all have a strong opinion one way or the other allison all of that to two thousand and eight and think about what's happened on president obama's watch certainly he has spoken out against the aspens hundred seventy billion arizona the names like governor jan brewer sheriff joe arpaio these have become household names people who are blatantly you know like to present themselves as over the top strict against illegal immigration how have things changed for immigrants in terms of i mean as we showed in this report fewer immigrants coming over and yet more dying what are some of the issues that are near or in terms of the last couple years. think what we have seen as a result of the our national lead the leaders been unable to pass comprehensive
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immigration reform we have seen states like arizona they get up and you know to themselves to pass and of all on interpretation of what immigration law should look we're going to spend when we have. a scratch of different immigration policies in place in different states arizona certainly being perhaps the malls we just example but alabama doesn't fall far behind in states like mississippi are also. courting this and they immigrants. and they immigrant policies and so what we have seen is because of the inability of the white house and the u.s. congress to pass immigration reform we are seen now states and even municipalities passing their old interpretation of immigration policy unique in and really a very complicated reality for immigrants who would be perfectly fine and protected in one county and as soon as the prospect county line he could be in maricopa
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county. sheriff joe arpaio and as well that question i mean what's the conversation like among people among us citizens who think this is an important issue or a bomb has to supplant than that but is there a better alternative they'll turn in this for the american public to ensure that our policies are reflective of the traditions of this country or the values of our nation their planet is to make sure that our elected officials start using immigrant rhetoric in a campaign trail and we're reaching out to the american public to make sure that we change the rhetoric rights issue and we have a new way of going about immigration and you know since i read christian or america from the southern border communities cullison appreciate your insight on this very important matter. well there is then an unmistakable shift in the landscape when it comes to the privacy you have when you use the internet and was a time that was becoming more and more difficult to remember when if you look
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something up on line price of a hotel a new pair of shoes that's where a start now you'll be barraged with and for that hotel or those shoes and plenty more now that the internet gods know your interests where you listen to what you download and what you post online is now also no longer for your eyes only where does it end and how do people feel about how only online marketers that open government watching your every move or harmfulness for the resident that posed that question to several people she spoke to in times square new york city. in the name of national security governments around the globe are trying to pass legislation that allows them to monitor the answer and just route people on line are you ok with that this week let's talk about that for national security reasons i wouldn't object to that but that's the key isn't it yeah it should be legal
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so you trust them to use that power wisely. i have a big about it but i think so yes. you know that does make you do. maybe if you're in the u.s. there are some other places in my field yeah exactly security reasons privacy also counts so. we're going to find out regardless anyway so let's look at it so you don't mind i'm looking through your e-mail. going to find the importance of my e-mail but it's your e-mail and it's your life and they don't have any right to look through. but. it's. hard to explain i guess. the world. from for. we just have to try to let the right person that's what you have you know that's where you go do you vote and vote for somebody who you can trust to be like
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a good story and why they're doing it but i also don't want them to get too much into your personal business. cards it's so cool do you think that that's just the way it's going you know as a society as we move more on line inevitably on line can it be not so free i do believe that you think about that when you go online that someone might be watching all the time but more and more hackers and stuff like that because those are not the government not the government. whether or not you think it's ok for a government to monitor its citizens the bottom line is before you post anything online you might want to consider who could be listening. and there's plenty of legislation out there making it more and more difficult to use the internet freely and certainly to use it privately now on an international
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scale there is actor you've probably heard of it the anti counterfeiting trade agreement it was signed by twenty two out of twenty seven you member states but there is starting to be some pushback from the parliament a whole lot of people having a change of heart about actually ratifying it and we saw how the online blackouts how to kill sopa the stop island online piracy act and people the protect ip act there is plenty more out there that poses a threat to online privacy and a free internet earlier spoke with one hands international ip for archer of the electronic frontier foundation and here's what she had to say. as you may know the european parliament committee held a important stakeholder foreign today to get views of a variety of stakeholders and european is going to be asked to ratify the. trade agreement as early as june of the house. pets july and so it's an important time for our stakeholders to get their views and concerns on the record about the
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impact that actor would have on citizens freedom of expression and privacy what twenty two out of twenty seven member states i mean that's a pretty good majority as far as those who signed it the first time around what are some of the concerns that some of these people are now starting to have about actor . so that's a very same question break for activity e.u. law both the individual member states and also the european parliament have to ratify aca and so the european parliament is going to a process at the moment of getting opinions from its various our matriculate is and then it will have a plenary vote as early as june and has the latest to lie on whether to approve or reject the agreement in its entirety and five member states have decided at the moment to put a puzzle whether they will sign an ratify actor because of concerns expressed about the ability to interfere and impede citizens fundamental rights of freedom of
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expression and privacy so there's a number of concerns that we as an organization ever have and there were reflected in a number of the comments be heard today from stakeholders such as article nineteen and anniston international act includes a number of provisions that. they get online service providers really strong incentives to do various actions that can interfere with citizens' rights there are brought in japan as an actor and a requirement that the there be cooperative measures of. cooperation between i p's internet service providers and rights holders and there are provisions in actor for criminal sanctions for aiding and abetting intellectual property in french french all of these things together put into intermediaries into a position where they're being asked to monitor what they users are doing and
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potentially the framework better said that korea opens the door for i suppose to drop policies such as internet does the election of they do sense to adopt policies from monitoring filtering and blocking of content so i think you're right they're really quick. that internet just selection of users so i mean essentially what it seems that you're saying here is first of all part of our seeks to in some ways join with the government that they have to. you know be available and ready to give information if the government says there is a concern and also to. some other steps the this would take in terms of users if they are suspected of doing some of this activity that was suspect. so a lack of does isn't or says a framework for privatizing of intellectual property rights so it's directed specifically at intellectual property enforcement and it's taking ties in internet
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service providers to make decisions that we would not only give to a court of law citizens but whether particular content is lawful for instance are usually something that we would ask the judge to make after a careful process of review instead what active is what's that obligation on to internet intermediaries to make those types of decisions it creates strong incentives start internet service providers to remove culture that is controversial but maybe unlawful to disconnect a users on allegation of copyright infringement from our rights holder and chief filter or monitor their network for potentially copyright infringement cereal in order for the ice case to avoid liability and that was when hans international ip director for the electronic frontier foundation. so i am r t the international space station could soon join the titanic rotting away on the ocean floor well multimission cooperation go down with it at story next.
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what drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who made decisions to be pretty crude through the point made who can you trust no one will be easy to deal with the global mission to receive where we had a state controlled capitalism is called sasha's when nobody dares to ask we do r t question more. r g is the state run the english speaking russian channel it's kind of like al-jazeera. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us.
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for registering sure it's right brain damage it's like a derivative of. it's a food product essentially. much stronger than anything it's the. dolls' of times stronger than any one of the four you've ever put. all right so there are been some new developments happening on the international space station we've got video from just a few weeks ago of the automated transfer vehicle an unmanned cargo spacecraft junket to the international space station. if you know it's six meters and closing in on the international space station. above the pacific ocean on the a.t.v. through the liver and water oxygen food and clothing to the crew and i'm not
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talking about a few souvenirs two hundred twenty pounds of oxygen six hundred twenty eight pounds of liner gravel stuff guys but alas all good things must come to an end and there are reports out that funding for the international space station will be cut as soon as four years from now now to talk about the changing tides in space i was joined earlier by space entrepreneur just manber and here's his take. it's we have this belief in america that as soon as you build something you should toss it away but i don't really think anyone serious for instance for us this permanent home and space into the ocean it's just too much of a as you say a wonderful example of cooperation be we're just starting to use it you talked about opening the doors to commercial now companies have a company a lot of people in their companies that are doing things on the station so we're just beginning to get the utilization out of the station and there's no finer example of russian america working together than this station and for those reasons
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alone you just don't our sort of way and you know a lot of people say you know this is an embodiment of the achievements of humanity and i want to put a couple pictures out there is a very recent picture of a nighttime photo taken from the eye assassin of moscow here that is pretty cool picture i think and then we do have another photo of the a.t.v. docking. just lots of really really interesting stuff and i do want you to talk about the commercial aspect of this from what i understand as i mentioned twenty sixteen to date on commercial contracts space x. and organ all sciences are scheduled to take over the resupplying of the international space is great the sound from it's not so it's all good news ok nasa has determined that in low earth orbit with the space station is we should be more commercial we don't need the government to design things develop things and so nasa is a customer and nasa has turned to space x. and orbital sciences and said you know what build your own rockets we want design them will be a customer and you send cargo and we're hoping that space x.
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is launching in a few weeks by twenty sixteen they may be launching crew space x. but. space x. is going to start in a few weeks launching cargo and it's a whole new era. that point nasa as a customer as a customer for stuff that i'm doing on the station with utilization and. research and it's not designing it's not competing against the private sector so this is really a wonderful time so we see it starting immediately and i don't think anyone believes the station is going to come down by two thousand and sixteen i think it's up there for decades and decades because it really is an incredible feat of engineering what about commercial flights for people i mean we've been hearing about this park quite some time now when when does this get off the ground when i'm sure they let me check here are you right we're waiting on virgin galactic survey should branson and they're keep saying it's coming soon and coming soon and that's a sub orbital but it does get you to space and and we're going and space x.
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wants the passengers to space and right now the monopoly remains with the russians and soyuz and i just don't know when it's going to happen it's going to it takes a long time only three nations have sent humans to space and their companies are trying to do it and that's a big difference so we have to be patient but we were you know we were talking about this all that before this what would be an incentive for a company to go to space to set up camp a business where you sell your company is that if you can see a return on your investment if you have governments acting as customers companies will go to space in the past the government would design develop operate the way we do anything so we want to go to the moon not only to do something wonderful because dare i say you can make money if nasa is willing to say we'll pay you to put four people or four hundred people in the moon for six months you have companies going so we just have to get into that mindset that you could have capitalism not just in
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low earth orbit why have what kind of companies i mean would you foresee it would it bring their business to. pharmaceutical research growing different process season materials and the who would use gravity on the moon and maybe you set something up on the far side that really can look with scientists i'm sure you could get scientists that are an indicted. it's a day to jump on a rocket ship and spend you know five years on the far side of the moon so it's about doing it because it's feels right that's what we do so you're not talking about wal-mart going to the moon. but if we send all the walmart's to space. i think it was a little bit over there i think there are three and i do want to play a little game of compare and contrast because i mean you're very optimistic you don't see the space station ending any time soon but the funding for it and i have seen several tear jerking stories for example about the end of the shuttle program how empty and vessel it kennedy space center is these days there is
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a shift in opinion about the need to shift resources to earth as opposed to sort of the you know back during the space race things have changed so what we're going to say ok so i was just wanted to compare and contrast when we talk about what is deemed important and society today we see a whole lot of money for example i'll say at the pentagon has put almost a trillion dollars towards the after thirty five joint. yeah the joint strike fighter that's expected to cost a trillion dollars much more than they anticipated but. why that and not more resources devoted to the not just because. i believe that more resources i believe nasa has a high enough budget i think eighteen nineteen eighteen billion dollars is enough how they spend that money is a different story we've got to get smarter we've got to stop of course the overruns if the program is not working right and you've got to you've got to have the
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political will to say you know maybe this women are ready to do this right now so it's not so much we're not spending enough money on civilian space which is going to get smarter more commercial is what i believe we've got to be more clever and frugal in how we spend money and if it's not right doesn't work cut it more international cooperation is important you look at working with the russians spring on. station and how much time and effort and funding that's so really it's not comparing how much we're spending here and here i can't do that i can only say that nasa is beginning to spend its money more wisely and we've got to get smarter kind of like with every program in this country right now it would work better and benefit more people if the money was spent on the guys like a very interesting space entrepreneur jeffrey manber thank you for being here on the show all right and we are out of time but for more on the stories we covered go to you tube dot com slash r t america and for the latest information.

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