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to be in the kitchen which. includes tips and tricks. well first comes military intervention and then like vultures non-governmental organizations come swooping in to one country after another from libya to syria it seems these glass turned back piggy banks are spending more than ever before to help other nations million suffer right here at home so when said n.g.o.s transitioned from foreign aid it's a big business and. after a decade of war and billions of dollars down the drain support for the war in
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afghanistan is at an all time low and now the afghan government is planning to downsize their own military force so is it time for the u.s. to cut its losses or explore. gentleman to become a no other kind of animal altogether it's the media industry is more than entertainment news and in this answer taman and this jury of the story is not sexy or bloody that it's not newsworthy perhaps that's why media outlets are only painting part of a picture of the conflict in syria we'll show you why syrians say news coverage of their country is bogus. it's thursday april twelfth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. well starting off today by taking
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a look at the role n.g.o.s play in shaping public perception of world events in libya western funded non-government organizations highlighted the bloodshed and massacres incited by then libyan leader moammar gadhafi and it this information to help justify western military intervention and the public said these reports via these organizations and the mass media led to support the toppling of dictators and the subsequent changing of regimes but once gadhafi was killed what happened was some of those reports were proven to be incorrect and it's possible a similar scenario is playing out right now in syria the latest conflict in the middle east to capture the world's attention so what happens when n.g.o.s tell their own narrative and what happens when non-government organizations are in fact quite cozy with the government aren't the correspondent we're going to pour in iowa reports that sometimes the consequences of misinformation can be deadly.
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it was billed as a necessary demanded tarion intervention requiring nato warplanes to rain bombs on libya before the u.s. led attack on moammar gadhafi forces. came unconfirmed allegations from western funded non-governmental organizations here who normally use them the one that it is a friday and saturday because information that needs to get out we've been massive maisonette because these mercenaries seem to have. polluted and kill also the distinction according to a new report by the center for the study of interventionism many western n.g.o.s exaggerated the circumstances in libya to expedite the campaign led by america britain and france some admitted mistakes after the damage was done. but today
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we have to admit that we have no evidence that gadhafi employed mercenary forces or the things unfortunately we have seen a very cozy toast relationship building up between certain big powerful and if human rights watch a mystery international supposed to hear an objective body which monitors standards equally of course doesn't take sides we see these organizations as i say entering into an excessively cozy relationship with for example the united states government but also with other powerful western allies over libya and over other nations. currently the most pressing issue in syria after more than a year of violence critics say western funded n.g.o.s appear to be following the same pattern the equivalency between like of the libyan league for human rights which is called the center for human rights but has paid attention the same role it
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made stake. that's just human rights council alleged crimes against humanity they called. tension in that country and they are quickly since who are trying to secure a military intervention against syria along the lines of but also should or at least approved last year in order for carney to be arrested this year this infamous connie twenty twelve movie came from california based ngo invisible children it said the film aim to end the use of child soldiers and promote peace in the ugandan civil war but according to u.s. embassy cables posted by wiki leaks invisible children provided uganda's authorities with intelligence in two thousand and nine that led to the arrest of several regime opponents willing to. believe that was not the one time. provided information. what are we not
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know in terms of their relations with gondo government. we know that. for the year for. prominent politicians. supported their position in terms of supporting the troops to come here and help promote. the bill was passed. and it paved the way for the introduction of. n.g.o.s are not currently held accountable for the information they publish no matter how much damage. was left on regulated critics believe some non-governmental organisations would you be giving away for conflict rather than advocating for solution. for not artsy. well let's talk more about how n.g.o.s and almost play the part of law vs and why the u.s.
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seems to insist on intervening abroad and sort of focusing on its own budget woes i'm joined now by middle east analysts say welcome to the show mad. talk a little bit more about the role of n.g.o.s the role that they play in shaping the way people view of that. i'm just going to repeat that i was asking you what you know going along with the of the story there. talk about the role in which n.g.o.s can play in shaping the way in which people view world events. and you have a very critical role in that specially of the are operating in under two politically and regimes like in libya as the story highlight the. if we look backward a little bit. i don't think libya as an example the libyan people
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and the libyan government its does not allow any n.g.o.s whether the locally funded or internationally funded to operate under any circumstances so the experience itself is you know if we want to. achieve transformation of a country like libya or elsewhere we have to rely on the n.g.o.s rather than relying on government agencies consider it as an outsourcing of some tasks that we have to do especially in the area of creating. an environment where if you. if you create in the population about democracy freedoms and human rights so do you have a very important and critical role to play in that area and the ngos can play a very important and critical role as we just saw in that report there when it came to libya for example some other reports now
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a turned out to be exaggerated or one sided or maybe they don't always revealed a full picture and add to what extent are n.g.o.s held accountable for the information that they put out. this should be held accountable since we are going to empower them we we expect as the public there to receive credible unbiased information if their reports will actually cause collateral damage then they would be considered an accomplice in that tragedy if it if it happens so the accountability is an important factor as well as transparency not on the other side and on the receiver recipient side it's interesting how you use that word accomplice there. that they you are they should be used for a force of good ngo's but how can they also be used as a tool to support
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a government's agenda. that's a very difficult question liz but i'll try to my best ability to answer. we have reviewed that it can be used in good true to promote. values of freedoms human rights and democracy and also they can work on the social front but if we allow them to operate without an oversight then we are just giving them a blank check or your a.t.m. card with your pin code without any control so that is the danger there because they can as we've seen play a very big part in shaping foreign policy. i agree but one rotten apple does not mean that the whole batch is rotten we just have to separate. there might be.
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not at the hearing to an ethical standard first of all in the sake of gaining financial benefit but we have to to review it and we have to institute a track record for each of these organizations so we can monitor it and for those who are proven to be bad apples we have to say greek the possible to eliminate them or cut funding. and i agree with you there are certainly one bad apple doesn't mean that are all bad and perhaps the answer is more oversight or more regulation but oftentimes in politics it comes down to money and when you see so much money being pumped into influencing governments abroad begs the question of how when and why do these agencies continue to spend money on foreign affairs at a time that the u.s. is trying to cut down its own budget dealing with so many problems of our own here
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at home. nothing can happen or any of the fifty fiftieth's can take place without financial backing if the countries that these n.g.o.s operate inside them were. courageous enough to allow them for operate. set rules and regulations and measures for transparency in terms of the financing to receive the projects the underpaid and the outcome and libya did not have any type of freedom of expression did not have any type of. democratic organization or in the catholic culture a culture of democracy so it was difficult so if the international n.g.o.s
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decide to use a local organization to undertake sometimes their choice is not an optimal choice as we have seen prior but this if we are speaking about transparency of if i can use an example with the religious fundamentalist groups that prevail in throughout the middle east and the reputed to be receiving millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars in financing from the rich oil states with absolutely no oversight and no transparency on either side this also presents a dilemma for any public worker or for any political activist one rotten apple does not mean the whole batch is rotten. thank you very much for weighing in on this that was middle east analysts. thank you liz. well another glow to the us is military strategy in afghanistan it turns out that
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the afghan military is too broke to sustain its current size so afghanistan has announced it will cut about thirty percent of its force and this will happen after nato mission ends there and two thousand and fourteen and when that happens afghans will be stripped of a huge amount of its funding and that's because the seven billion dollars a cost to cover salaries equipment and everything else is covered by foreign governments so in the west pulls out of the west pulls out afghanistan is out of luck and this announcement comes as the approval rating for the war is at an all time low let's take a look back at the ratings over the years back in two thousand and seven fifty six percent of americans polled said that the war in afghanistan was worth fighting for while forty one percent this agreed moving along although the number has been going up and down the longer we have stayed in the country its support for the war went
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up significantly in june of two thousand and eleven just a month after president obama announced that a navy seal team had killed osama bin laden however that support was pretty short lived and march of this year we saw that number this was right after hundreds of afghan civilians began rioting and protesting the american occupation of the country all in response to an american air base and burning several copies of the islamic holy book the koran. and today a new poll shows that american support of the war in afghanistan has taken yet another death reaching an all time low at eight thirty percent approval rating and sixty six percent disapproval that's even lower than us support of the iraq war at its lowest point so when most americans unhappy with the way things are going in afghanistan and in the wake of this recent announcement we asked was the war ever
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sustainable well joining us to talk more about this is robert naiman a policy director at just foreign policy hi robert nice to see you so first i want to start off with that poll we saw that the approval rating for the war in afghanistan has fluctuated throughout the years but why are americans against it now more so more than ever. well first of all a lot of the recent news is bad there's been over the past couple months there's been kind of one major negative into in a month there was the the koran burning episode there was the corpse desecration video and then there was the massacre of seventeen civilians and all of these things come through with his bare news about a war but not just bad news bad news there cause people to fundamentally question
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what we're going to need or why are we still there after more than ten years. a year after the killing of osama bin laden the sense of one of you million americans the sensible reason for the the war in the in the first place so it's going on in the news is bad news in the news to fundamentally challenges. the reasons for being there and i think that there are a sense that the war is kind of on autopilot it's also true there the debate there. surfaces in the media between a presidential campaign is on the one hand you have president park obama. put forward a plan for withdrawing troops sometimes reported as you know we're going to have all troops out of the country by twenty fourteen that's not totally clear but meanwhile you have the republican candidate criticizing troop withdrawals troop withdrawals so the base and their choice the majority of americans are clearly with
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the president in fact they want troops to come out even faster than the president has promised there's nobody really hardly any credible voice in the media saying that the war is fine you know you have voices saying well you know let's not pull out quickly so people are responding to all these things and i think that's what's training more and more support from the war and as you said i'm we're hearing one piece of bad news out there another more news that might not be so so. i guess not in favor of the american. mission there and afghanistan has announced that they're going to cut back on their military because they just can't afford it so robert what does this mean for the u.s. mission there well in a way that's good news in a way he is just good news when people deal with reality you know you would be hard
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pressed to find anyone outside the u.s. government even people inside of you u.s. government so i think the stated plans for the size of the afghan military forces you know were sustainable after a u.s. withdrawal the and particularly the european countries have a long time been able to get out increasingly u.s. i think really when the who are forces or the you know the political will for huge expenditures was going to be to increase its decreased screw storage and really i think the more fundamental question about the future is whether there's going to be a political so. you know it is the united states and others have said they are committed to the if you have a political settlement and get us there then you don't need a massive. afghan army so that is really i think the direction we should focus should be directed. the robber in afghanistan does get
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a huge amount of its cash flow from foreign countries so how can anyone imagine that when the last polls out that afghanistan can bear the burden on its own. well afghanistan existed before the western military intervention. so you know we're going to stay there forever of course not the many ways the country's been me worse by the intervention not just for somebody there was killed and injured by the war. you know corruption is increased in the massive flows of cash and so i'm so there has to be process of rebalancing the afghan economy so it's not so dependent on foreign flows. and quarter country could grow things and supposedly there are plans underway to assist the country in transitioning away from poppies which you know are very critical for cash crop.
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these user these are things that can happen if there is seen effort. to really know about you know afghanistan's pearlie one of the poorest countries in the world it's not likely they're ten years from now it's going to be one of the richest countries in the world but the basics could be provided to the population so you can have universal health care and you can have universal education when you have the there grading are really could be largely eliminated but there is a lot of skepticism surrounding that are not afghanistan albeit successful following this transition so robert. is there a risk of that or are there fear there is this fear that. the u.s. pulls out of the country is not going to be any better off than it was there before
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the intervention. well you know i think the claims there were merely you know well claims were made in two thousand and one about afghanistan just. why the wesley military intervention i don't think those claims can be redeemed but it's a well known fact around the world they're one of the things they're a destroyed country economic country's economic development is war and the the first thing they're going to stay needs is peace in order to develop canonically there was not going to war when the u.s. and cuba fiend course the question was their intervention exacerbated that civil war if there could be peace in their political settlement which everybody participates does not was not the case after. the kids are burned were expelled included from the political dispensation when the un envoy called the original sin
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and the afghanistan exclusion of the afghan taliban from the political dispensation african doesn't want that's a problem there could be fixed now. their stance a bully that is the policy that the west claims that it's pursuing you know games when you have peace you have political settlement that includes their everyone in you have some commitment from the west to support economic development in the country in their contacts you know there could be a much brighter future for afghanistan then it is experience the last ten years from war unless thirty years of. right rather it thank you very much for coming on the show that was robert naiman policy director at just foreign policy. well as the world watches as a ceasefire provides some calm and syria this as a as your own international envoy kofi annan pushes for a peace deal in the year long complex between the government and rebel fighters a conflict that has wrecked the country apart now amid the chaos it's difficult to
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get an accurate picture of what's really going on there and as is often the case we see people jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts are to correspondent on a stasia churkin our reports on how many syrians are distant can said as what they see as biased media coverage. for over a year syria ripped apart by clashes. with media written in full or just as intense oppressors and the oppressed in a frenzy to prove a point not answering questions as simple as who what when and why you're going to a country for work right gave what story what are you saying so so i think generally become a mother a kind of animal altogether. but the media industry is more about entertainment yes for nucleus come out of the country the american public treated to a simply scripted blog buster in a faraway land it's where all the people who rise up against dictatorship and based
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on that it's very quickly we're going to lose three weeks and then they live happily ever after so they're going to want to even think about the mess that is happening is that in a position well syrian certainly do. as you can see a syrian living and working in los angeles says western media have blindly adopted the official line of their government's been a chicken and then a chicken the sources of their stories and there is a lot of the exaggeration the syrian government has presented as evil and the opposition noble but who and how very they are is left out you sort of take the path of least resistance and that often leads to distorting news and information the public doesn't really get any context or background that's what's scary. the west and qatar in favor of regime change will not acknowledge the presence of armed forces including al qaida on the ground in former work
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correspondent for al jazeera. says his qatari based channel refused to air this reality we want to make cost in the middle into this that syrian media war for launching so i took my decision i want our recalls what's going on a power game it's the owners of the companies you know a couple example going to the gambling and the syrian and syrian crisis and they want them use all possible to topple the regime of assad in damascus the voices of syrians who are cheering for this are kept off i mean stream t.v. screens they are all was. trying to sticks against the support that evolution and the army of course and there are many other see as who do not support the regime who are scared something possibilities. for. the pave the way the american media is covering the destruction in syria rushing aside alternative news the mainstream media was quick to accuse russia and china of being
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responsible for the bloodshed video chanting russia is killing our children some syrians countered that media outlets in fact increased the tallies on the ground through misinformation forty. believe in the people in syria just above the law so people good eyes and i don't know that but if you stood strong and did not so want to give in deceptive information like this it's killing people in the street while the world works to hash out a plan of action for syria the media need to provide thoughts and call into the syrians weary of a potentially risky future for their country distorted views will only deepen and prolong the crisis. r.t. . and that's going to do it for the news but stick around the capital account is coming up next tonight host laura unless there will be talking about whether or not the feds artificial manipulation of interest rates distorts the space time
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you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear sees some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture.

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